[DeTomaso] AC
Mike Drew
MikeLDrew at aol.com
Fri Jun 28 19:05:01 EDT 2019
All,
FWIW the car in question is an Amerisport GT5-S. I think those still used R12.
I second Julian’s motion. AC is specialized work that requires special tools and a thorough knowledge of the theory and practice behind the system. It’s not like putting air in a tire. If you aren’t a pro, take the car to a pro.....
Mike (definitely not a pro, who will one day seek out a pro to install AC in his and Lori’s Panteras....)
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> On Jun 28, 2019, at 15:56, Gray Gregory <rgg at gregorycook.com> wrote:
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> Trip,
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> Julian makes a good point. Your pics show R-12 fittings on the comp so it's likely you still have an R12 sys, but that doesn't completely rule out that some former owner could have done a DIY change.
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> Is the sys completely empty or just need topping off?
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> Gray
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> From: DeTomaso <detomaso-bounces at server.detomasolist.com> On Behalf Of Julian Kift
> Sent: Friday, June 28, 2019 5:41 PM
> To: Trip Owen <lance730 at msn.com>; Larry Stock <larrys at panteraparts.com>; 'List DeTomaso Forum' <detomaso at server.detomasolist.com>
> Subject: Re: [DeTomaso] AC
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> So you have a modern rotary compressor, where lacking information in prior discussion we (or I at least) assumed your system was a stock style York compressor. If I recall you mentioned R12 in previous requests, but have you checked the system has not been fully retrofitted to R134a?
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> Is the system charged currently and you want to 'top off' or are you filling a leaked out system? You should evacuate and pull a vacuum on the system and verify it holds before assuming an empty system is good. In all honesty I think you'd do better taking it to a local AC shop to have it properly evacuated, tested and refilled, it's not as simple as just plugging a can of Freon on the suction port.
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> Julian
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> From: Trip Owen <lance730 at msn.com>
> Sent: Friday, June 28, 2019 2:53 PM
> To: Larry Stock; Julian Kift; 'List DeTomaso Forum'
> Subject: RE: [DeTomaso] AC
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> Hello,
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> Which port should I use to add Freon? SOC or DLS, as they are labeled.
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> Thanks,
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> Trip
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> From: Larry Stock <larrys at panteraparts.com>
> Sent: Thursday, June 27, 2019 2:51:03 PM
> To: Trip Owen; Julian Kift; 'List DeTomaso Forum'
> Subject: Re: [DeTomaso] AC
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> Your R-12 gauges should read:
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> High pressure 200 @ idle to 225 @ 3000 Rpm
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> Low Pressure about 30 psi
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> The York Compressor has ¼ inch square shut off valves, they should be in the open posistion
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> The System will take up to 4 pounds of Freon
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> Larry
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> From: Trip Owen <lance730 at msn.com>
> Date: Thursday, June 27, 2019 at 10:53 AM
> To: Larry Stock <larrys at panteraparts.com>, Julian Kift <julian_kift at hotmail.com>, 'List DeTomaso Forum' <detomaso at server.detomasolist.com>
> Subject: RE: [DeTomaso] AC
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> I am on it now – trying to find R12 tap – thanks to pics sent – after you find it, its EZ to see it –
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> like spotting a Red Tailed Hawk, that thinks its hiding,
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> the lift made that much more doable – there are 2 ports, do I just use one? How much pressure
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> should it take?
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> Trip
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> From: Larry Stock <larrys at panteraparts.com>
> Sent: Thursday, June 27, 2019 1:48:55 PM
> To: Julian Kift; Trip Owen; 'List DeTomaso Forum'
> Subject: Re: [DeTomaso] AC
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> The exact location depends on a number of factors, but normally it is accessed from under the Pantera or thru the Right Rear wheel well by removing the splash shield, to the front right of the engine to the rear of the firewall. Do you still have the R-12 reciprocal black YORK Compressor, or has it been changed to a newer Silver Rotary type compressor? Then we need to examine the rotary conversion for labels and /or available ports for identification. If you get this far call me for part 2 identifications. Larry Stock 1-800-DeTomaso (338-6627)
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> On 6/27/19, 9:58 AM, "DeTomaso on behalf of Julian Kift" <detomaso-bounces at server.detomasolist.com on behalf of julian_kift at hotmail.com> wrote:
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> Attached a picture of a York compressor with A/C line unions and
> capped ports
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> From: Trip Owen <lance730 at msn.com>
> Sent: Thursday, June 27, 2019 7:20 AM
> To: Julian Kift
> Subject: RE: [DeTomaso] AC
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> My car is one Kirk Evans did - 1988 GT5S - it is original to the car,
> so not a modern one -
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> I will look again - just do not see the freakin thing - that is why I
> asked if it is behind the seat -
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> Much obliged -
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> Trip
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> DC
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> From: Julian Kift <julian_kift at hotmail.com>
> Sent: Thursday, June 27, 2019 10:18:26 AM
> To: Trip Owen
> Cc: detomaso at server.detomasolist.com
> Subject: Re: [DeTomaso] AC
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> Did you confirm if it is the original York piston compressor or a
> modern rotary one? Ports are normally on the rear of the compressor,
> but if your system has been modernized or retrofitted they could have
> been relocated albeit uncommon to do so.
> Julian
>> On Jun 27, 2019, at 06:45, Trip Owen <lance730 at msn.com> wrote:
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>> Men thanks for the advice, I just do not see where to charge from
> under
>> the car, my question is
>> * Is it accessible from behind the seat, do I remove the panel
> behind
>> the seats and say - "wow there it is" - I can't find it, or
> where I
>> set down my coffee............
>> * Clueless
>> * Trip
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