[DeTomaso] DeTomaso Digest, Vol 179, Issue 4
Trip Owen
lance730 at msn.com
Wed Jun 12 19:10:35 EDT 2019
Gentlemen – going out on a limb here, but what would a stock 351C air cleaner for my ’88 GT5S look like?
Would it be the same as a 71-73 Cleveland, Torino, Mustang, except I guess painted black from Ford blue?
Trip
Bethesda, Md.
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Today's Topics:
1. Re: Rear Suspension Clevis Mount Needed (Mike & Elizabeth Thomas)
2. Replacement for lid shocks (Wayne Boian)
3. Re: Rear Suspension Clevis Mount Needed (Charles Engles)
4. Re: Rear Suspension Clevis Mount Needed (Steve)
5. Re: Replacement for lid shocks (Jack Donahue)
6. Re: Replacement for lid shocks (Sean Korb)
7. Re: Rear Suspension Clevis Mount Needed (Dave Londry)
8. Re: Rear Suspension Clevis Mount Needed (Mike & Elizabeth Thomas)
9. Re: Replacement for lid shocks (jgmaloney at roadrunner.com)
10. Re: Rear Suspension Clevis Mount Needed (Joseph F. Byrd, Jr.)
11. Ford Fast News Performance Spotlight - 72 Pantera featured
(Garth Rodericks)
12. Re: Rear Suspension Clevis Mount Needed (Mike & Elizabeth Thomas)
13. Re: Rear Suspension Clevis Mount Needed (Steve)
14. Re: Rear Suspension Clevis Mount Needed (larry at ohiotimecorp.com)
15. Non Pantera Content (Steve)
16. Re: Replacement for lid shocks (Wayne Boian)
17. Re: Rear Suspension Clevis Mount Needed (Paul Timko)
18. Re: Rear Suspension Clevis Mount Needed (Pantdino)
19. 73 Internal Rear View Mirror Removal
(djenkins at vanguardtrailer.com)
20. Re: Rear Suspension Clevis Mount Needed (Paul Timko)
21. New Steering Wheel (Steve)
22. Re: New Steering Wheel (Asa Jay Laughton)
23. SPC: Panther Prototype at Lake Cuomo (Mike & Elizabeth Thomas)
24. Tom Tjaarda Scholarship Fund (via Dave & Linda Adler)
(laurieferrari at aol.com)
25. Reno Fun Rally (Curt Hall)
26. Re: Reno Fun Rally (Mike Drew)
27. Re: Reno Fun Rally (Curt Hall)
28. Re: Reno Fun Rally (Julian Kift)
29. Re: Tom Tjaarda Scholarship Fund (via Dave & Linda Adler)
(laurieferrari at aol.com)
30. Re: Reno Fun Rally (Mike Drew)
31. Re: Reno Fun Rally (Curt Hall)
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Message: 1
Date: Thu, 23 May 2019 08:34:49 -0700
From: "Mike & Elizabeth Thomas" <mbefthomas at comcast.net>
To: "'Julian Kift'" <julian_kift at hotmail.com>, "'DeTomaso Mail List'"
<detomaso at server.detomasolist.com>, "'Ken Green'"
<kenn_green at yahoo.com>
Subject: Re: [DeTomaso] Rear Suspension Clevis Mount Needed
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Thanks all, sourced one with Steve Wilkinson yesterday. It's actually a
forged piece and has not been remade in a quality manner so NOS is the only
source. Strange that I would have one with bungled threads - no idea how
long it's been like that.
Mike Thomas
From: Julian Kift <julian_kift at hotmail.com>
Sent: Wednesday, May 22, 2019 4:03 PM
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Subject: Re: [DeTomaso] Rear Suspension Clevis Mount Needed
Mike,
Not a costly item, I would contact you favorite vendor and get one shipped.
Alternatively a good shop should be able to fabricate or weld new threaded
section onto your existing one.
Julian
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Subject: Re: [DeTomaso] Rear Suspension Clevis Mount Needed
There was one on ebay, I think Mike Mayberry. but I don't see it now. You
might email Mike:
mikedmayberry at hotmail.com <mailto:mikedmayberry at hotmail.com>
Ken
On Wednesday, May 22, 2019, 3:36:49 PM PDT, Mike & Elizabeth Thomas
<mbefthomas at comcast.net <mailto:mbefthomas at comcast.net> > wrote:
I had the car aligned today and the tech found that the threads on the
driver's side forward lower rear suspension clevis bracket that the
A-arm is bolted to and goes through the frame was partially stripped.
Does anyone out there have one they can sell/send me? Prepping for
Reno and thought I was there but one more thing to fix after the
steering rack.
Thanks!
Mike Thomas
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Thanks all, sourced one with Steve Wilkinson yesterday. It's actually
a forged piece and has not been remade in a quality manner so NOS is
the only source. Strange that I would have one with bungled threads -
no idea how long it's been like that.
Mike Thomas
From: Julian Kift <julian_kift at hotmail.com>
Sent: Wednesday, May 22, 2019 4:03 PM
To: 'DeTomaso Mail List' <detomaso at server.detomasolist.com>; Mike &
Elizabeth Thomas <mbefthomas at comcast.net>; Ken Green
<kenn_green at yahoo.com>
Subject: Re: [DeTomaso] Rear Suspension Clevis Mount Needed
Mike,
Not a costly item, I would contact you favorite vendor and get one
shipped. Alternatively a good shop should be able to fabricate or weld
new threaded section onto your existing one.
Julian
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Sent: Wednesday, May 22, 2019 3:45 PM
To: 'DeTomaso Mail List'; Mike & Elizabeth Thomas
Subject: Re: [DeTomaso] Rear Suspension Clevis Mount Needed
There was one on ebay, I think Mike Mayberry. but I don't see it now.
You might email Mike:
[3]mikedmayberry at hotmail.com
Ken
On Wednesday, May 22, 2019, 3:36:49 PM PDT, Mike & Elizabeth Thomas
<[4]mbefthomas at comcast.net> wrote:
I had the car aligned today and the tech found that the threads on
the
driver's side forward lower rear suspension clevis bracket that the
A-arm is bolted to and goes through the frame was partially stripped.
Does anyone out there have one they can sell/send me? Prepping for
Reno and thought I was there but one more thing to fix after the
steering rack.
Thanks!
Mike Thomas
Pres., Panteras Northwest
206-795-3302
Yellow '74 #6328
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Message: 2
Date: Thu, 23 May 2019 11:56:40 -0400
From: "Wayne Boian" <wayneboian at windstream.net>
To: <detomaso at server.detomasolist.com>
Subject: [DeTomaso] Replacement for lid shocks
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The Wed May 1 18:41:45 EDT 2019 post on "Need new deck lid" could not have
been timed better for me.
After retiring, I am taking the car cover off # 5683 and cruise around. The
car can use some TLC, but in generally good shape.
The stock lid shocks have started to sag and have been researching getting a
new set.
I found some older threads talking about the StrongArm #4490 shocks and the
Dodge/Plymouth Hatchback 1978-87. The local parts place said they can be
ordered but had no information if they are in the 110# pressure range.
Any advise, information on which replacement lid shocks to use or NOT use
would be helpful.
Thanks
Wayne in ky
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Message: 3
Date: Thu, 23 May 2019 11:27:24 -0500
From: "Charles Engles" <cengles at cox.net>
To: "'Mike & Elizabeth Thomas'" <mbefthomas at comcast.net>, "'Julian
Kift'" <julian_kift at hotmail.com>, "'DeTomaso Mail List'"
<detomaso at server.detomasolist.com>, "'Ken Green'"
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Subject: Re: [DeTomaso] Rear Suspension Clevis Mount Needed
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Dear Mike,
You wrote: " Strange that I would have one with bungled
threads - no idea how long it's been like that."
Ah, indeed. It is one of those quaint peculiarities of owning
an Italian car. Fortunately, the virtues outweigh the vices--- I think.
Warmest regards, Chuck Engles
-----Original Message-----
From: DeTomaso [mailto:detomaso-bounces at server.detomasolist.com] On Behalf
Of Mike & Elizabeth Thomas
Sent: Thursday, May 23, 2019 10:35 AM
To: 'Julian Kift'; 'DeTomaso Mail List'; 'Ken Green'
Subject: Re: [DeTomaso] Rear Suspension Clevis Mount Needed
Thanks all, sourced one with Steve Wilkinson yesterday. It's actually a
forged piece and has not been remade in a quality manner so NOS is the only
source. Strange that I would have one with bungled threads - no idea how
long it's been like that.
Mike Thomas
From: Julian Kift <julian_kift at hotmail.com>
Sent: Wednesday, May 22, 2019 4:03 PM
To: 'DeTomaso Mail List' <detomaso at server.detomasolist.com>; Mike &
Elizabeth Thomas <mbefthomas at comcast.net>; Ken Green <kenn_green at yahoo.com>
Subject: Re: [DeTomaso] Rear Suspension Clevis Mount Needed
Mike,
Not a costly item, I would contact you favorite vendor and get one shipped.
Alternatively a good shop should be able to fabricate or weld new threaded
section onto your existing one.
Julian
_____
From: DeTomaso <detomaso-bounces at server.detomasolist.com
<mailto:detomaso-bounces at server.detomasolist.com> > on behalf of Ken Green
via DeTomaso <detomaso at server.detomasolist.com
<mailto:detomaso at server.detomasolist.com> >
Sent: Wednesday, May 22, 2019 3:45 PM
To: 'DeTomaso Mail List'; Mike & Elizabeth Thomas
Subject: Re: [DeTomaso] Rear Suspension Clevis Mount Needed
There was one on ebay, I think Mike Mayberry. but I don't see it now. You
might email Mike:
mikedmayberry at hotmail.com <mailto:mikedmayberry at hotmail.com>
Ken
On Wednesday, May 22, 2019, 3:36:49 PM PDT, Mike & Elizabeth Thomas
<mbefthomas at comcast.net <mailto:mbefthomas at comcast.net> > wrote:
I had the car aligned today and the tech found that the threads on the
driver's side forward lower rear suspension clevis bracket that the
A-arm is bolted to and goes through the frame was partially stripped.
Does anyone out there have one they can sell/send me? Prepping for
Reno and thought I was there but one more thing to fix after the
steering rack.
Thanks!
Mike Thomas
Pres., Panteras Northwest
206-795-3302
Yellow '74 #6328
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Message: 4
Date: Thu, 23 May 2019 09:53:46 -0700
From: "Steve" <steve at snclocks.com>
To: "'Charles Engles'" <cengles at cox.net>, "'Mike & Elizabeth Thomas'"
<mbefthomas at comcast.net>, "'Julian Kift'" <julian_kift at hotmail.com>,
"'DeTomaso Mail List'" <detomaso at server.detomasolist.com>, "'Ken
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Subject: Re: [DeTomaso] Rear Suspension Clevis Mount Needed
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Every time I walk into the garage and see our car the virtues outweigh the
vices. And, as time goes by, the vices are being eliminated. Yup - will
finish polishing out the scratch in the passenger window today! The new
window was curved wrong (beware if you are ordering new window glass) and
the used one I found was worse than the one I scratched. So, lots of
sanding and polishing - and it looks good!
Love these cars!!!
Stephen
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From: DeTomaso [mailto:detomaso-bounces at server.detomasolist.com] On Behalf
Of Charles Engles
Sent: Thursday, May 23, 2019 9:27 AM
To: 'Mike & Elizabeth Thomas' <mbefthomas at comcast.net>; 'Julian Kift'
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Subject: Re: [DeTomaso] Rear Suspension Clevis Mount Needed
Dear Mike,
You wrote: " Strange that I would have one with bungled
threads - no idea how long it's been like that."
Ah, indeed. It is one of those quaint peculiarities of owning
an Italian car. Fortunately, the virtues outweigh the vices--- I think.
Warmest regards, Chuck Engles
-----Original Message-----
From: DeTomaso [mailto:detomaso-bounces at server.detomasolist.com] On Behalf
Of Mike & Elizabeth Thomas
Sent: Thursday, May 23, 2019 10:35 AM
To: 'Julian Kift'; 'DeTomaso Mail List'; 'Ken Green'
Subject: Re: [DeTomaso] Rear Suspension Clevis Mount Needed
Thanks all, sourced one with Steve Wilkinson yesterday. It's actually a
forged piece and has not been remade in a quality manner so NOS is the only
source. Strange that I would have one with bungled threads - no idea how
long it's been like that.
Mike Thomas
From: Julian Kift <julian_kift at hotmail.com>
Sent: Wednesday, May 22, 2019 4:03 PM
To: 'DeTomaso Mail List' <detomaso at server.detomasolist.com>; Mike &
Elizabeth Thomas <mbefthomas at comcast.net>; Ken Green <kenn_green at yahoo.com>
Subject: Re: [DeTomaso] Rear Suspension Clevis Mount Needed
Mike,
Not a costly item, I would contact you favorite vendor and get one shipped.
Alternatively a good shop should be able to fabricate or weld new threaded
section onto your existing one.
Julian
_____
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Sent: Wednesday, May 22, 2019 3:45 PM
To: 'DeTomaso Mail List'; Mike & Elizabeth Thomas
Subject: Re: [DeTomaso] Rear Suspension Clevis Mount Needed
There was one on ebay, I think Mike Mayberry. but I don't see it now. You
might email Mike:
mikedmayberry at hotmail.com <mailto:mikedmayberry at hotmail.com>
Ken
On Wednesday, May 22, 2019, 3:36:49 PM PDT, Mike & Elizabeth Thomas
<mbefthomas at comcast.net <mailto:mbefthomas at comcast.net> > wrote:
I had the car aligned today and the tech found that the threads on the
driver's side forward lower rear suspension clevis bracket that the
A-arm is bolted to and goes through the frame was partially stripped.
Does anyone out there have one they can sell/send me? Prepping for
Reno and thought I was there but one more thing to fix after the
steering rack.
Thanks!
Mike Thomas
Pres., Panteras Northwest
206-795-3302
Yellow '74 #6328
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Message: 5
Date: Thu, 23 May 2019 12:14:50 -0700
From: Jack Donahue <demongusta at gmail.com>
To: Wayne Boian <wayneboian at windstream.net>
Cc: "detomaso at server.detomasolist.com"
<detomaso at server.detomasolist.com>
Subject: Re: [DeTomaso] Replacement for lid shocks
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Hey Wayne:
I?m the guy who wrote about the new deck lid. I highly suggest Larry Stocks shocks - all prepped and ready to go. I had mistakingly bought the ones for a "winged" deck lid - WAY TOO STRONG - court is still out whether I need a new lid or not - general consensus is that it can be "worked out".
jack
> On May 23, 2019, at 8:56 AM, Wayne Boian <wayneboian at windstream.net> wrote:
>
> The Wed May 1 18:41:45 EDT 2019 post on "Need new deck lid" could not have been timed better for me.
> After retiring, I am taking the car cover off # 5683 and cruise around. The car can use some TLC, but in generally good shape.
> The stock lid shocks have started to sag and have been researching getting a new set.
> I found some older threads talking about the StrongArm #4490 shocks and the Dodge/Plymouth Hatchback 1978-87. The local parts place said they can be ordered but had no information if they are in the 110# pressure range.
>
> Any advise, information on which replacement lid shocks to use or NOT use would be helpful.
>
> Thanks
> Wayne in ky
>
>
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Message: 6
Date: Thu, 23 May 2019 17:02:10 -0400
From: Sean Korb <spkorb at gmail.com>
To: Wayne Boian <wayneboian at windstream.net>
Cc: detomaso at server.detomasolist.com
Subject: Re: [DeTomaso] Replacement for lid shocks
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The Dodge Omni/Plymouth Horizon shocks PN # SG314003 work well for me
with a stock lid. I think the Pantera registry has more part numbers.
These may not be stocked since the car is not ummmm very popular
anymore.
I concur, Larry Stock will have what you need for your car and direct
fit. I had to rearrange a few washers to get the Dodge ones to fit
right.
sean
On 5/23/19, Wayne Boian <wayneboian at windstream.net> wrote:
> The Wed May 1 18:41:45 EDT 2019 post on "Need new deck lid" could not have
>
> been timed better for me.
> After retiring, I am taking the car cover off # 5683 and cruise around. The
>
> car can use some TLC, but in generally good shape.
> The stock lid shocks have started to sag and have been researching getting a
>
> new set.
> I found some older threads talking about the StrongArm #4490 shocks and the
>
> Dodge/Plymouth Hatchback 1978-87. The local parts place said they can be
> ordered but had no information if they are in the 110# pressure range.
>
> Any advise, information on which replacement lid shocks to use or NOT use
> would be helpful.
>
> Thanks
> Wayne in ky
>
>
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Message: 7
Date: Thu, 23 May 2019 14:40:20 -0700
From: Dave Londry <davel at trguys.com>
To: detomaso at server.detomasolist.com
Subject: Re: [DeTomaso] Rear Suspension Clevis Mount Needed
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Man you destroyed my endurance record for a window reconditioning, Stephen!
dave
On 2019-05-23 9:53 a.m., Steve wrote:
> Every time I walk into the garage and see our car the virtues outweigh the
> vices. And, as time goes by, the vices are being eliminated. Yup - will
> finish polishing out the scratch in the passenger window today! The new
> window was curved wrong (beware if you are ordering new window glass) and
> the used one I found was worse than the one I scratched. So, lots of
> sanding and polishing - and it looks good!
>
> Love these cars!!!
>
> Stephen
>
> -----Original Message-----
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> Of Charles Engles
> Sent: Thursday, May 23, 2019 9:27 AM
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> <julian_kift at hotmail.com>; 'DeTomaso Mail List'
> <detomaso at server.detomasolist.com>; 'Ken Green' <kenn_green at yahoo.com>
> Subject: Re: [DeTomaso] Rear Suspension Clevis Mount Needed
>
> Dear Mike,
>
> You wrote: " Strange that I would have one with bungled
> threads - no idea how long it's been like that."
>
> Ah, indeed. It is one of those quaint peculiarities of owning
> an Italian car. Fortunately, the virtues outweigh the vices--- I think.
>
> Warmest regards, Chuck Engles
>
>
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: DeTomaso [mailto:detomaso-bounces at server.detomasolist.com] On Behalf
> Of Mike & Elizabeth Thomas
> Sent: Thursday, May 23, 2019 10:35 AM
> To: 'Julian Kift'; 'DeTomaso Mail List'; 'Ken Green'
> Subject: Re: [DeTomaso] Rear Suspension Clevis Mount Needed
>
> Thanks all, sourced one with Steve Wilkinson yesterday. It's actually a
> forged piece and has not been remade in a quality manner so NOS is the only
> source. Strange that I would have one with bungled threads - no idea how
> long it's been like that.
>
>
>
> Mike Thomas
>
>
>
> From: Julian Kift <julian_kift at hotmail.com>
> Sent: Wednesday, May 22, 2019 4:03 PM
> To: 'DeTomaso Mail List' <detomaso at server.detomasolist.com>; Mike &
> Elizabeth Thomas <mbefthomas at comcast.net>; Ken Green <kenn_green at yahoo.com>
> Subject: Re: [DeTomaso] Rear Suspension Clevis Mount Needed
>
>
>
> Mike,
>
>
>
> Not a costly item, I would contact you favorite vendor and get one shipped.
> Alternatively a good shop should be able to fabricate or weld new threaded
> section onto your existing one.
>
>
>
> Julian
>
>
>
> _____
>
> From: DeTomaso <detomaso-bounces at server.detomasolist.com
> <mailto:detomaso-bounces at server.detomasolist.com> > on behalf of Ken Green
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> Sent: Wednesday, May 22, 2019 3:45 PM
> To: 'DeTomaso Mail List'; Mike & Elizabeth Thomas
> Subject: Re: [DeTomaso] Rear Suspension Clevis Mount Needed
>
>
>
> There was one on ebay, I think Mike Mayberry. but I don't see it now. You
> might email Mike:
> mikedmayberry at hotmail.com <mailto:mikedmayberry at hotmail.com>
>
> Ken
>
> On Wednesday, May 22, 2019, 3:36:49 PM PDT, Mike & Elizabeth Thomas
> <mbefthomas at comcast.net <mailto:mbefthomas at comcast.net> > wrote:
>
> I had the car aligned today and the tech found that the threads on the
> driver's side forward lower rear suspension clevis bracket that the
> A-arm is bolted to and goes through the frame was partially stripped.
> Does anyone out there have one they can sell/send me? Prepping for
> Reno and thought I was there but one more thing to fix after the
> steering rack.
>
>
> Thanks!
>
> Mike Thomas
>
> Pres., Panteras Northwest
>
> 206-795-3302
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Message: 8
Date: Thu, 23 May 2019 16:45:46 -0700
From: "Mike & Elizabeth Thomas" <mbefthomas at comcast.net>
To: "'Charles Engles'" <cengles at cox.net>, "'Julian Kift'"
<julian_kift at hotmail.com>, "'DeTomaso Mail List'"
<detomaso at server.detomasolist.com>, "'Ken Green'"
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Subject: Re: [DeTomaso] Rear Suspension Clevis Mount Needed
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Yes, and thankfully it was virtuous enough to stay attached and not ruin my
day . . .
-----Original Message-----
From: Charles Engles <cengles at cox.net>
Sent: Thursday, May 23, 2019 9:27 AM
To: 'Mike & Elizabeth Thomas' <mbefthomas at comcast.net>; 'Julian Kift'
<julian_kift at hotmail.com>; 'DeTomaso Mail List'
<detomaso at server.detomasolist.com>; 'Ken Green' <kenn_green at yahoo.com>
Subject: RE: [DeTomaso] Rear Suspension Clevis Mount Needed
Dear Mike,
You wrote: " Strange that I would have one with bungled
threads - no idea how long it's been like that."
Ah, indeed. It is one of those quaint peculiarities of owning
an Italian car. Fortunately, the virtues outweigh the vices--- I think.
Warmest regards, Chuck Engles
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From: DeTomaso [mailto:detomaso-bounces at server.detomasolist.com] On Behalf
Of Mike & Elizabeth Thomas
Sent: Thursday, May 23, 2019 10:35 AM
To: 'Julian Kift'; 'DeTomaso Mail List'; 'Ken Green'
Subject: Re: [DeTomaso] Rear Suspension Clevis Mount Needed
Thanks all, sourced one with Steve Wilkinson yesterday. It's actually a
forged piece and has not been remade in a quality manner so NOS is the only
source. Strange that I would have one with bungled threads - no idea how
long it's been like that.
Mike Thomas
From: Julian Kift <julian_kift at hotmail.com>
Sent: Wednesday, May 22, 2019 4:03 PM
To: 'DeTomaso Mail List' <detomaso at server.detomasolist.com>; Mike &
Elizabeth Thomas <mbefthomas at comcast.net>; Ken Green <kenn_green at yahoo.com>
Subject: Re: [DeTomaso] Rear Suspension Clevis Mount Needed
Mike,
Not a costly item, I would contact you favorite vendor and get one shipped.
Alternatively a good shop should be able to fabricate or weld new threaded
section onto your existing one.
Julian
_____
From: DeTomaso <detomaso-bounces at server.detomasolist.com
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via DeTomaso <detomaso at server.detomasolist.com
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Sent: Wednesday, May 22, 2019 3:45 PM
To: 'DeTomaso Mail List'; Mike & Elizabeth Thomas
Subject: Re: [DeTomaso] Rear Suspension Clevis Mount Needed
There was one on ebay, I think Mike Mayberry. but I don't see it now. You
might email Mike:
mikedmayberry at hotmail.com <mailto:mikedmayberry at hotmail.com>
Ken
On Wednesday, May 22, 2019, 3:36:49 PM PDT, Mike & Elizabeth Thomas
<mbefthomas at comcast.net <mailto:mbefthomas at comcast.net> > wrote:
I had the car aligned today and the tech found that the threads on the
driver's side forward lower rear suspension clevis bracket that the
A-arm is bolted to and goes through the frame was partially stripped.
Does anyone out there have one they can sell/send me? Prepping for
Reno and thought I was there but one more thing to fix after the
steering rack.
Thanks!
Mike Thomas
Pres., Panteras Northwest
206-795-3302
Yellow '74 #6328
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Message: 9
Date: Fri, 24 May 2019 02:11:16 +0000
From: jgmaloney at roadrunner.com
To: "'Wayne Boian'" <wayneboian at windstream.net>
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Subject: Re: [DeTomaso] Replacement for lid shocks
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Wayne,
I did a study of rear deck lid struts in 2015 that can be found at:
https://nam02.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=http%3A%2F%2Focpanteras.com%2Ftech_zone%2FRearDeckStrutStudy.html&data=02%7C01%7C%7C347b4c77f7db44b29ef008d6e48c7eb4%7C84df9e7fe9f640afb435aaaaaaaaaaaa%7C1%7C0%7C636947689421402597&sdata=vVx6XQL3h0c4awrYl%2FprQ7DENC1l36sc%2BW%2BaoZDYaAs%3D&reserved=0
The Sacks struts for the Dodge/Plymouth Hatchback 1978-87 are low cost
but deliver too much force and can damage the deck lid and every thing
connected to each end of the strut.
My study concludes that the struts from Pantera Parts Connection
(Larry Stock) and PI Motorsports (Jerry Sacket) are safe and function
properly. The PPC struts are based on gas pressure technology. The
struts from PIM are based on compression spring technology.
Regards,
John MaloneyOC Panteras Secretary__
-----------------------------------------From: "Wayne Boian"
To: detomaso at server.detomasolist.com
Cc:
Sent: Thursday May 23 2019 8:56:40AM
Subject: [DeTomaso] Replacement for lid shocks
The Wed May 1 18:41:45 EDT 2019 post on "Need new deck lid" could not
have
been timed better for me.
After retiring, I am taking the car cover off # 5683 and cruise
around. The
car can use some TLC, but in generally good shape.
The stock lid shocks have started to sag and have been researching
getting a
new set.
I found some older threads talking about the StrongArm #4490 shocks
and the
Dodge/Plymouth Hatchback 1978-87. The local parts place said they can
be
ordered but had no information if they are in the 110# pressure
range.
Any advise, information on which replacement lid shocks to use or NOT
use
would be helpful.
Thanks
Wayne in ky
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Wayne,
I did a study of rear deck lid struts in 2015 that can be found at:
https://nam02.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=http%3A%2F%2Focpanteras.com%2Ftech_zone%2FRearDeckStrutStudy.html&data=02%7C01%7C%7C347b4c77f7db44b29ef008d6e48c7eb4%7C84df9e7fe9f640afb435aaaaaaaaaaaa%7C1%7C0%7C636947689421402597&sdata=vVx6XQL3h0c4awrYl%2FprQ7DENC1l36sc%2BW%2BaoZDYaAs%3D&reserved=0
The Sacks struts for the Dodge/Plymouth Hatchback 1978-87 are low cost
but deliver too much force and can damage the deck lid and every thing
connected to each end of the strut.
My study concludes that the struts from Pantera Parts Connection (Larry
Stock) and PI Motorsports (Jerry Sacket) are safe and function
properly. The PPC struts are based on gas pressure technology. The
struts from PIM are based on compression spring technology.
Regards,
John Maloney
OC Panteras Secretary
[]^[DEL: :DEL]
-----------------------------------------
From: "Wayne Boian"
To: detomaso at server.detomasolist.com
Cc:
Sent: Thursday May 23 2019 8:56:40AM
Subject: [DeTomaso] Replacement for lid shocks
The Wed May 1 18:41:45 EDT 2019 post on "Need new deck lid" could not
have
been timed better for me.
After retiring, I am taking the car cover off # 5683 and cruise around.
The
car can use some TLC, but in generally good shape.
The stock lid shocks have started to sag and have been researching
getting a
new set.
I found some older threads talking about the StrongArm #4490 shocks and
the
Dodge/Plymouth Hatchback 1978-87. The local parts place said they can
be
ordered but had no information if they are in the 110# pressure range.
Any advise, information on which replacement lid shocks to use or NOT
use
would be helpful.
Thanks
Wayne in ky
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Message: 10
Date: Thu, 23 May 2019 22:11:48 -0400
From: "Joseph F. Byrd, Jr." <byrdjf at embarqmail.com>
To: <detomaso at server.detomasolist.com>
Subject: Re: [DeTomaso] Rear Suspension Clevis Mount Needed
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Could you share photos of the bungled threads.
(My curiosity and entrenched need to have a root cause analysis for a
mechanical failure)
Joe
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Of Mike & Elizabeth Thomas
Sent: Thursday, May 23, 2019 19:46 PM
Subject: Re: [DeTomaso] Rear Suspension Clevis Mount Needed
Yes, and thankfully it was virtuous enough to stay attached and not ruin my
day . . .
-------
Thanks all, sourced one with Steve Wilkinson yesterday. It's actually a
forged piece and has not been remade in a quality manner so NOS is the only
source. Strange that I would have one with bungled threads - no idea how
long it's been like that.
Mike Thomas
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Message: 11
Date: Fri, 24 May 2019 14:47:43 +0000 (UTC)
From: Garth Rodericks <garth_rodericks at yahoo.com>
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Ted Geldberg's 500hp 72 Pantera was featured this morning...
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Message: 12
Date: Fri, 24 May 2019 07:55:57 -0700
From: "Mike & Elizabeth Thomas" <mbefthomas at comcast.net>
To: "'Joseph F. Byrd, Jr.'" <byrdjf at embarqmail.com>,
<detomaso at server.detomasolist.com>
Subject: Re: [DeTomaso] Rear Suspension Clevis Mount Needed
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Sure Joe. When the replacement arrives in the next few days I'll have the
old one off for closer inspection. There is also an interesting washer that
was starting to deform. Looks like somebody may have torqued it too hard
during a previous alignment - lucky they didn't crush the frame rail.
-----Original Message-----
From: DeTomaso <detomaso-bounces at server.detomasolist.com> On Behalf Of
Joseph F. Byrd, Jr.
Sent: Thursday, May 23, 2019 7:12 PM
To: detomaso at server.detomasolist.com
Subject: Re: [DeTomaso] Rear Suspension Clevis Mount Needed
Could you share photos of the bungled threads.
(My curiosity and entrenched need to have a root cause analysis for a
mechanical failure)
Joe
-----Original Message-----
From: DeTomaso [mailto:detomaso-bounces at server.detomasolist.com] On Behalf
Of Mike & Elizabeth Thomas
Sent: Thursday, May 23, 2019 19:46 PM
Subject: Re: [DeTomaso] Rear Suspension Clevis Mount Needed
Yes, and thankfully it was virtuous enough to stay attached and not ruin my
day . . .
-------
Thanks all, sourced one with Steve Wilkinson yesterday. It's actually a
forged piece and has not been remade in a quality manner so NOS is the only
source. Strange that I would have one with bungled threads - no idea how
long it's been like that.
Mike Thomas
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Message: 13
Date: Fri, 24 May 2019 08:01:23 -0700
From: "Steve" <steve at snclocks.com>
To: "'Mike & Elizabeth Thomas'" <mbefthomas at comcast.net>, "'Joseph F.
Byrd, Jr.'" <byrdjf at embarqmail.com>,
<detomaso at server.detomasolist.com>
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All good reasons to do your own alignment work.
Stephen
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Of Mike & Elizabeth Thomas
Sent: Friday, May 24, 2019 7:56 AM
To: 'Joseph F. Byrd, Jr.' <byrdjf at embarqmail.com>;
detomaso at server.detomasolist.com
Subject: Re: [DeTomaso] Rear Suspension Clevis Mount Needed
Sure Joe. When the replacement arrives in the next few days I'll have the
old one off for closer inspection. There is also an interesting washer that
was starting to deform. Looks like somebody may have torqued it too hard
during a previous alignment - lucky they didn't crush the frame rail.
-----Original Message-----
From: DeTomaso <detomaso-bounces at server.detomasolist.com> On Behalf Of
Joseph F. Byrd, Jr.
Sent: Thursday, May 23, 2019 7:12 PM
To: detomaso at server.detomasolist.com
Subject: Re: [DeTomaso] Rear Suspension Clevis Mount Needed
Could you share photos of the bungled threads.
(My curiosity and entrenched need to have a root cause analysis for a
mechanical failure)
Joe
-----Original Message-----
From: DeTomaso [mailto:detomaso-bounces at server.detomasolist.com] On Behalf
Of Mike & Elizabeth Thomas
Sent: Thursday, May 23, 2019 19:46 PM
Subject: Re: [DeTomaso] Rear Suspension Clevis Mount Needed
Yes, and thankfully it was virtuous enough to stay attached and not ruin my
day . . .
-------
Thanks all, sourced one with Steve Wilkinson yesterday. It's actually a
forged piece and has not been remade in a quality manner so NOS is the only
source. Strange that I would have one with bungled threads - no idea how
long it's been like that.
Mike Thomas
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Message: 14
Date: Fri, 24 May 2019 12:54:38 -0400
From: <larry at ohiotimecorp.com>
To: "'Mike & Elizabeth Thomas'" <mbefthomas at comcast.net>, "'Joseph F.
Byrd, Jr.'" <byrdjf at embarqmail.com>,
<detomaso at server.detomasolist.com>
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<< lucky they didn't crush the frame rail>>
Did we not talk about this with Charlie's car in Spain a number of years
ago? How some cars having a support tube inside the frame?
Larry (could be dreaming) - Cleveland
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& Elizabeth Thomas
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To: 'Joseph F. Byrd, Jr.' <byrdjf at embarqmail.com>;
detomaso at server.detomasolist.com
Subject: Re: [DeTomaso] Rear Suspension Clevis Mount Needed
Sure Joe. When the replacement arrives in the next few days I'll have the
old one off for closer inspection. There is also an interesting washer that
was starting to deform. Looks like somebody may have torqued it too hard
during a previous alignment - lucky they didn't crush the frame rail.
-----Original Message-----
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Joseph F. Byrd, Jr.
Sent: Thursday, May 23, 2019 7:12 PM
To: detomaso at server.detomasolist.com
Subject: Re: [DeTomaso] Rear Suspension Clevis Mount Needed
Could you share photos of the bungled threads.
(My curiosity and entrenched need to have a root cause analysis for a
mechanical failure)
Joe
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Of Mike & Elizabeth Thomas
Sent: Thursday, May 23, 2019 19:46 PM
Subject: Re: [DeTomaso] Rear Suspension Clevis Mount Needed
Yes, and thankfully it was virtuous enough to stay attached and not ruin my
day . . .
-------
Thanks all, sourced one with Steve Wilkinson yesterday. It's actually a
forged piece and has not been remade in a quality manner so NOS is the only
source. Strange that I would have one with bungled threads - no idea how
long it's been like that.
Mike Thomas
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Message: 15
Date: Fri, 24 May 2019 11:58:21 -0700
From: "Steve" <steve at snclocks.com>
To: <detomaso at detomasolist.com>
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Knowing how much many of you like the new Mustangs, I thought this parody of
the "Bullit" chase scene might be just the thing for a boring Friday:
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Message: 16
Date: Fri, 24 May 2019 16:14:18 -0400
From: "Wayne Boian" <wayneboian at windstream.net>
To: <jgmaloney at roadrunner.com>
Cc: detomaso at server.detomasolist.com
Subject: Re: [DeTomaso] Replacement for lid shocks
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Thanks to all for your help and support. John, tyour study on the rear deck lids was wonderful.
I just picked up the Cat from having a new electronic ignition and Holly Carb installed.
With the car back home, I can pull the old shocks off and measure the thru holes for 10 mm or 6 mm.
Larry get the 18126P PPC Shock rear deck lid support ready. I have a standard non wing lid.
One again thanks to all for your help and support.
Wayne in KY.
From: jgmaloney at roadrunner.com
Sent: Thursday, May 23, 2019 10:11 PM
To: 'Wayne Boian'
Cc: mailto:detomaso at server.detomasolist.com
Subject: RE: [DeTomaso] Replacement for lid shocks
Wayne,
I did a study of rear deck lid struts in 2015 that can be found at:
https://nam02.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=http%3A%2F%2Focpanteras.com%2Ftech_zone%2FRearDeckStrutStudy.html&data=02%7C01%7C%7C347b4c77f7db44b29ef008d6e48c7eb4%7C84df9e7fe9f640afb435aaaaaaaaaaaa%7C1%7C0%7C636947689421432552&sdata=TRb6i85xw0sSGsBSca0EUjzIDK%2B33rizhG1XOW0If1s%3D&reserved=0
The Sacks struts for the Dodge/Plymouth Hatchback 1978-87 are low cost but deliver too much force and can damage the deck lid and every thing connected to each end of the strut.
My study concludes that the struts from Pantera Parts Connection (Larry Stock) and PI Motorsports (Jerry Sacket) are safe and function properly. The PPC struts are based on gas pressure technology. The struts from PIM are based on compression spring technology.
Regards,
John Maloney
OC Panteras Secretary
-----------------------------------------
From: "Wayne Boian"
To: detomaso at server.detomasolist.com
Cc:
Sent: Thursday May 23 2019 8:56:40AM
Subject: [DeTomaso] Replacement for lid shocks
The Wed May 1 18:41:45 EDT 2019 post on "Need new deck lid" could not have
been timed better for me.
After retiring, I am taking the car cover off # 5683 and cruise around. The
car can use some TLC, but in generally good shape.
The stock lid shocks have started to sag and have been researching getting a
new set.
I found some older threads talking about the StrongArm #4490 shocks and the
Dodge/Plymouth Hatchback 1978-87. The local parts place said they can be
ordered but had no information if they are in the 110# pressure range.
Any advise, information on which replacement lid shocks to use or NOT use
would be helpful.
Thanks
Wayne in ky
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Thanks to all for your help and support. John, tyour study on the rear
deck lids was wonderful.
I just picked up the Cat from having a new electronic ignition and
Holly Carb installed.
With the car back home, I can pull the old shocks off and measure the
thru holes for 10 mm or 6 mm.
Larry get the 18126P PPC Shock rear deck lid support ready. I have a
standard non wing lid.
One again thanks to all for your help and support.
Wayne in KY.
From: [1]jgmaloney at roadrunner.com
Sent: Thursday, May 23, 2019 10:11 PM
To: [2]'Wayne Boian'
Cc: [3]mailto:detomaso at server.detomasolist.com
Subject: RE: [DeTomaso] Replacement for lid shocks
Wayne,
I did a study of rear deck lid struts in 2015 that can be found at:
https://nam02.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=http%3A%2F%2Focpanteras.com%2Ftech_zone%2FRearDeckStrutStudy.html&data=02%7C01%7C%7C347b4c77f7db44b29ef008d6e48c7eb4%7C84df9e7fe9f640afb435aaaaaaaaaaaa%7C1%7C0%7C636947689421432552&sdata=TRb6i85xw0sSGsBSca0EUjzIDK%2B33rizhG1XOW0If1s%3D&reserved=0
The Sacks struts for the Dodge/Plymouth Hatchback 1978-87 are low cost
but deliver too much force and can damage the deck lid and every thing
connected to each end of the strut.
My study concludes that the struts from Pantera Parts Connection (Larry
Stock) and PI Motorsports (Jerry Sacket) are safe and function
properly. The PPC struts are based on gas pressure technology. The
struts from PIM are based on compression spring technology.
Regards,
John Maloney
OC Panteras Secretary
[]^[DEL: :DEL]
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From: "Wayne Boian"
To: detomaso at server.detomasolist.com
Cc:
Sent: Thursday May 23 2019 8:56:40AM
Subject: [DeTomaso] Replacement for lid shocks
The Wed May 1 18:41:45 EDT 2019 post on "Need new deck lid" could not
have
been timed better for me.
After retiring, I am taking the car cover off # 5683 and cruise around.
The
car can use some TLC, but in generally good shape.
The stock lid shocks have started to sag and have been researching
getting a
new set.
I found some older threads talking about the StrongArm #4490 shocks and
the
Dodge/Plymouth Hatchback 1978-87. The local parts place said they can
be
ordered but had no information if they are in the 110# pressure range.
Any advise, information on which replacement lid shocks to use or NOT
use
would be helpful.
Thanks
Wayne in ky
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Date: Fri, 24 May 2019 17:50:13 -0500
From: Paul Timko <thedrol at pobox.com>
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Subject: Re: [DeTomaso] Rear Suspension Clevis Mount Needed
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Yup it comes up every 5 years or so.
Paul
#9270
On Fri, May 24, 2019 at 11:55 AM Larry - Cleveland via DeTomaso <
detomaso at server.detomasolist.com> wrote:
> << lucky they didn't crush the frame rail>>
>
> Did we not talk about this with Charlie's car in Spain a number of years
> ago? How some cars having a support tube inside the frame?
>
>
> Larry (could be dreaming) - Cleveland
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: DeTomaso <detomaso-bounces at server.detomasolist.com> On Behalf Of
> Mike
> & Elizabeth Thomas
> Sent: May 24, 2019 10:56 AM
> To: 'Joseph F. Byrd, Jr.' <byrdjf at embarqmail.com>;
> detomaso at server.detomasolist.com
> Subject: Re: [DeTomaso] Rear Suspension Clevis Mount Needed
>
> Sure Joe. When the replacement arrives in the next few days I'll have the
> old one off for closer inspection. There is also an interesting washer
> that
> was starting to deform. Looks like somebody may have torqued it too hard
> during a previous alignment - lucky they didn't crush the frame rail.
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: DeTomaso <detomaso-bounces at server.detomasolist.com> On Behalf Of
> Joseph F. Byrd, Jr.
> Sent: Thursday, May 23, 2019 7:12 PM
> To: detomaso at server.detomasolist.com
> Subject: Re: [DeTomaso] Rear Suspension Clevis Mount Needed
>
> Could you share photos of the bungled threads.
> (My curiosity and entrenched need to have a root cause analysis for a
> mechanical failure)
>
> Joe
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: DeTomaso [mailto:detomaso-bounces at server.detomasolist.com] On Behalf
> Of Mike & Elizabeth Thomas
> Sent: Thursday, May 23, 2019 19:46 PM
> Subject: Re: [DeTomaso] Rear Suspension Clevis Mount Needed
>
> Yes, and thankfully it was virtuous enough to stay attached and not ruin my
> day . . .
> -------
> Thanks all, sourced one with Steve Wilkinson yesterday. It's actually a
> forged piece and has not been remade in a quality manner so NOS is the only
> source. Strange that I would have one with bungled threads - no idea how
> long it's been like that.
>
>
> Mike Thomas
>
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Yup it comes up every 5 years or so.A
PaulA
#9270
On Fri, May 24, 2019 at 11:55 AM Larry - Cleveland via DeTomaso
<[1]detomaso at server.detomasolist.com> wrote:
<< lucky they didn't crush the frame rail>>
Did we not talk about this with Charlie's car in Spain a number of
years
ago? How some cars having a support tube inside the frame?
Larry (could be dreaming) - Cleveland
-----Original Message-----
From: DeTomaso <[2]detomaso-bounces at server.detomasolist.com> On
Behalf Of Mike
& Elizabeth Thomas
Sent: May 24, 2019 10:56 AM
To: 'Joseph F. Byrd, Jr.' <[3]byrdjf at embarqmail.com>;
[4]detomaso at server.detomasolist.com
Subject: Re: [DeTomaso] Rear Suspension Clevis Mount Needed
Sure Joe.A When the replacement arrives in the next few days I'll
have the
old one off for closer inspection.A There is also an interesting
washer that
was starting to deform.A Looks like somebody may have torqued it
too hard
during a previous alignment - lucky they didn't crush the frame
rail.
-----Original Message-----
From: DeTomaso <[5]detomaso-bounces at server.detomasolist.com> On
Behalf Of
Joseph F. Byrd, Jr.
Sent: Thursday, May 23, 2019 7:12 PM
To: [6]detomaso at server.detomasolist.com
Subject: Re: [DeTomaso] Rear Suspension Clevis Mount Needed
Could you share photos of the bungled threads.A A
(My curiosity and entrenched need to have a root cause analysis for
a
mechanical failure)
Joe
-----Original Message-----
From: DeTomaso [mailto:[7]detomaso-bounces at server.detomasolist.com]
On Behalf
Of Mike & Elizabeth Thomas
Sent: Thursday, May 23, 2019 19:46 PM
Subject: Re: [DeTomaso] Rear Suspension Clevis Mount Needed
Yes, and thankfully it was virtuous enough to stay attached and not
ruin my
day . . .
-------
Thanks all, sourced one with Steve Wilkinson yesterday.A It's
actually a
forged piece and has not been remade in a quality manner so NOS is
the only
source.A Strange that I would have one with bungled threads - no
idea how
long it's been like that.
Mike Thomas
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Message: 18
Date: Fri, 24 May 2019 23:02:39 +0000 (UTC)
From: Pantdino <pantdino at aol.com>
To: detomaso at server.detomasolist.com
Subject: Re: [DeTomaso] Rear Suspension Clevis Mount Needed
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IIRC the conclusion was that in the post-Ford cars DeT couldn?t be bothered to put a spacer tube inside the frame rail to prevent the rail from being crushed when the bolt was tightened. ?Not a problem with the Ford era cars. ??
Jim
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On?Friday, May 24, 2019,?Paul Timko?<thedrol at pobox.com>?wrote:
? Yup it comes up every 5 years or so.A
? PaulA
? #9270
? On Fri, May 24, 2019 at 11:55 AM Larry - Cleveland via DeTomaso
? <[1]detomaso at server.detomasolist.com> wrote:
? ? << lucky they didn't crush the frame rail>>
? ? Did we not talk about this with Charlie's car in Spain a number of
? ? years
? ? ago? How some cars having a support tube inside the frame?
? ? Larry (could be dreaming) - Cleveland
? ? -----Original Message-----
? ? From: DeTomaso <[2]detomaso-bounces at server.detomasolist.com> On
? ? Behalf Of Mike
? ? & Elizabeth Thomas
? ? Sent: May 24, 2019 10:56 AM
? ? To: 'Joseph F. Byrd, Jr.' <[3]byrdjf at embarqmail.com>;
? ? [4]detomaso at server.detomasolist.com
? ? Subject: Re: [DeTomaso] Rear Suspension Clevis Mount Needed
? ? Sure Joe.A? When the replacement arrives in the next few days I'll
? ? have the
? ? old one off for closer inspection.A? There is also an interesting
? ? washer that
? ? was starting to deform.A? Looks like somebody may have torqued it
? ? too hard
? ? during a previous alignment - lucky they didn't crush the frame
? ? rail.
? ? -----Original Message-----
? ? From: DeTomaso <[5]detomaso-bounces at server.detomasolist.com> On
? ? Behalf Of
? ? Joseph F. Byrd, Jr.
? ? Sent: Thursday, May 23, 2019 7:12 PM
? ? To: [6]detomaso at server.detomasolist.com
? ? Subject: Re: [DeTomaso] Rear Suspension Clevis Mount Needed
? ? Could you share photos of the bungled threads.A? A
? ? (My curiosity and entrenched need to have a root cause analysis for
? ? a
? ? mechanical failure)
? ? Joe
? ? -----Original Message-----
? ? From: DeTomaso [mailto:[7]detomaso-bounces at server.detomasolist.com]
? ? On Behalf
? ? Of Mike & Elizabeth Thomas
? ? Sent: Thursday, May 23, 2019 19:46 PM
? ? Subject: Re: [DeTomaso] Rear Suspension Clevis Mount Needed
? ? Yes, and thankfully it was virtuous enough to stay attached and not
? ? ruin my
? ? day . . .
? ? -------
? ? Thanks all, sourced one with Steve Wilkinson yesterday.A? It's
? ? actually a
? ? forged piece and has not been remade in a quality manner so NOS is
? ? the only
? ? source.A? Strange that I would have one with bungled threads - no
? ? idea how
? ? long it's been like that.
? ? Mike Thomas
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IIRC the conclusion was that in the post-Ford cars DeT couldnat be
bothered to put a spacer tube inside the frame rail to prevent the rail
from being crushed when the bolt was tightened. Not a problem with the
Ford era cars.
Jim
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On Friday, May 24, 2019, Paul Timko <thedrol at pobox.com> wrote:
Yup it comes up every 5 years or so.A
PaulA
#9270
On Fri, May 24, 2019 at 11:55 AM Larry - Cleveland via DeTomaso
<[1][1]detomaso at server.detomasolist.com> wrote:
<< lucky they didn't crush the frame rail>>
Did we not talk about this with Charlie's car in Spain a number of
years
ago? How some cars having a support tube inside the frame?
Larry (could be dreaming) - Cleveland
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Behalf Of Mike
& Elizabeth Thomas
Sent: May 24, 2019 10:56 AM
To: 'Joseph F. Byrd, Jr.' <[3][3]byrdjf at embarqmail.com>;
[4][4]detomaso at server.detomasolist.com
Subject: Re: [DeTomaso] Rear Suspension Clevis Mount Needed
Sure Joe.A When the replacement arrives in the next few days I'll
have the
old one off for closer inspection.A There is also an interesting
washer that
was starting to deform.A Looks like somebody may have torqued it
too hard
during a previous alignment - lucky they didn't crush the frame
rail.
-----Original Message-----
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Behalf Of
Joseph F. Byrd, Jr.
Sent: Thursday, May 23, 2019 7:12 PM
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Subject: Re: [DeTomaso] Rear Suspension Clevis Mount Needed
Could you share photos of the bungled threads.A A
(My curiosity and entrenched need to have a root cause analysis for
a
mechanical failure)
Joe
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On Behalf
Of Mike & Elizabeth Thomas
Sent: Thursday, May 23, 2019 19:46 PM
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Yes, and thankfully it was virtuous enough to stay attached and not
ruin my
day . . .
-------
Thanks all, sourced one with Steve Wilkinson yesterday.A It's
actually a
forged piece and has not been remade in a quality manner so NOS is
the only
source.A Strange that I would have one with bungled threads - no
idea how
long it's been like that.
Mike Thomas
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Message: 19
Date: Sat, 25 May 2019 11:06:56 -0500
From: "djenkins at vanguardtrailer.com" <djenkins at vanguardtrailer.com>
To: "detomaso at server.detomasolist.com"
<detomaso at server.detomasolist.com>
Subject: [DeTomaso] 73 Internal Rear View Mirror Removal
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Pull down easily but firmly on the bar between the roof bracket and mirror. Comes right off.
Sent from my Verizon LG Smartphone
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Pull down easily but firmly on the bar between the roof bracket and
mirror. Comes right off.
Sent from my Verizon LG Smartphone
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Message: 20
Date: Sat, 25 May 2019 22:15:13 -0500
From: Paul Timko <thedrol at pobox.com>
To: Email List Address For Posting <detomaso at server.detomasolist.com>
Subject: Re: [DeTomaso] Rear Suspension Clevis Mount Needed
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My late model car had a tube in the frame rails. I believe the earlier cars
have an additional steel support in the frame rail.
Paul
#9270
On Fri, May 24, 2019 at 6:02 PM Pantdino via DeTomaso <
detomaso at server.detomasolist.com> wrote:
> IIRC the conclusion was that in the post-Ford cars DeT couldnat be
> bothered to put a spacer tube inside the frame rail to prevent the rail
> from being crushed when the bolt was tightened. Not a problem with the
> Ford era cars.
>
> Jim
> Sent from AOL Mobile Mail
> On Friday, May 24, 2019, Paul Timko <thedrol at pobox.com> wrote:
>
> Yup it comes up every 5 years or so.A
> PaulA
> #9270
> On Fri, May 24, 2019 at 11:55 AM Larry - Cleveland via DeTomaso
> <[1][1]detomaso at server.detomasolist.com> wrote:
> << lucky they didn't crush the frame rail>>
> Did we not talk about this with Charlie's car in Spain a number of
> years
> ago? How some cars having a support tube inside the frame?
> Larry (could be dreaming) - Cleveland
> -----Original Message-----
> From: DeTomaso <[2][2]detomaso-bounces at server.detomasolist.com> On
> Behalf Of Mike
> & Elizabeth Thomas
> Sent: May 24, 2019 10:56 AM
> To: 'Joseph F. Byrd, Jr.' <[3][3]byrdjf at embarqmail.com>;
> [4][4]detomaso at server.detomasolist.com
> Subject: Re: [DeTomaso] Rear Suspension Clevis Mount Needed
> Sure Joe.A When the replacement arrives in the next few days I'll
> have the
> old one off for closer inspection.A There is also an interesting
> washer that
> was starting to deform.A Looks like somebody may have torqued it
> too hard
> during a previous alignment - lucky they didn't crush the frame
> rail.
> -----Original Message-----
> From: DeTomaso <[5][5]detomaso-bounces at server.detomasolist.com> On
> Behalf Of
> Joseph F. Byrd, Jr.
> Sent: Thursday, May 23, 2019 7:12 PM
> To: [6][6]detomaso at server.detomasolist.com
> Subject: Re: [DeTomaso] Rear Suspension Clevis Mount Needed
> Could you share photos of the bungled threads.A A
> (My curiosity and entrenched need to have a root cause analysis for
> a
> mechanical failure)
> Joe
> -----Original Message-----
> From: DeTomaso
> [mailto:[7][7]detomaso-bounces at server.detomasolist.com]
> On Behalf
> Of Mike & Elizabeth Thomas
> Sent: Thursday, May 23, 2019 19:46 PM
> Subject: Re: [DeTomaso] Rear Suspension Clevis Mount Needed
> Yes, and thankfully it was virtuous enough to stay attached and not
> ruin my
> day . . .
> -------
> Thanks all, sourced one with Steve Wilkinson yesterday.A It's
> actually a
> forged piece and has not been remade in a quality manner so NOS is
> the only
> source.A Strange that I would have one with bungled threads - no
> idea how
> long it's been like that.
> Mike Thomas
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My late model car had a tube in the frame rails. I believe the earlier
cars have an additional steel support in the frame rail.A
Paul
#9270
On Fri, May 24, 2019 at 6:02 PM Pantdino via DeTomaso
<[1]detomaso at server.detomasolist.com> wrote:
A A IIRC the conclusion was that in the post-Ford cars DeT couldnat
be
A A bothered to put a spacer tube inside the frame rail to prevent
the rail
A A from being crushed when the bolt was tightened.A Not a problem
with the
A A Ford era cars.
A A Jim
A A Sent from AOL Mobile Mail
A A On Friday, May 24, 2019, Paul Timko <[2]thedrol at pobox.com>
wrote:
A A A Yup it comes up every 5 years or so.A
A A A PaulA
A A A #9270
A A A On Fri, May 24, 2019 at 11:55 AM Larry - Cleveland via
DeTomaso
A A A <[1][1][3]detomaso at server.detomasolist.com> wrote:
A A A A << lucky they didn't crush the frame rail>>
A A A A Did we not talk about this with Charlie's car in Spain a
number of
A A A A years
A A A A ago? How some cars having a support tube inside the
frame?
A A A A Larry (could be dreaming) - Cleveland
A A A A -----Original Message-----
A A A A From: DeTomaso
<[2][2][4]detomaso-bounces at server.detomasolist.com> On
A A A A Behalf Of Mike
A A A A & Elizabeth Thomas
A A A A Sent: May 24, 2019 10:56 AM
A A A A To: 'Joseph F. Byrd, Jr.'
<[3][3][5]byrdjf at embarqmail.com>;
A A A A [4][4][6]detomaso at server.detomasolist.com
A A A A Subject: Re: [DeTomaso] Rear Suspension Clevis Mount
Needed
A A A A Sure Joe.AA When the replacement arrives in the next few
days I'll
A A A A have the
A A A A old one off for closer inspection.AA There is also an
interesting
A A A A washer that
A A A A was starting to deform.AA Looks like somebody may have
torqued it
A A A A too hard
A A A A during a previous alignment - lucky they didn't crush the
frame
A A A A rail.
A A A A -----Original Message-----
A A A A From: DeTomaso
<[5][5][7]detomaso-bounces at server.detomasolist.com> On
A A A A Behalf Of
A A A A Joseph F. Byrd, Jr.
A A A A Sent: Thursday, May 23, 2019 7:12 PM
A A A A To: [6][6][8]detomaso at server.detomasolist.com
A A A A Subject: Re: [DeTomaso] Rear Suspension Clevis Mount
Needed
A A A A Could you share photos of the bungled threads.AA A
A A A A (My curiosity and entrenched need to have a root cause
analysis for
A A A A a
A A A A mechanical failure)
A A A A Joe
A A A A -----Original Message-----
A A A A From: DeTomaso
A A [mailto:[7][7][9]detomaso-bounces at server.detomasolist.com]
A A A A On Behalf
A A A A Of Mike & Elizabeth Thomas
A A A A Sent: Thursday, May 23, 2019 19:46 PM
A A A A Subject: Re: [DeTomaso] Rear Suspension Clevis Mount
Needed
A A A A Yes, and thankfully it was virtuous enough to stay
attached and not
A A A A ruin my
A A A A day . . .
A A A A -------
A A A A Thanks all, sourced one with Steve Wilkinson
yesterday.AA It's
A A A A actually a
A A A A forged piece and has not been remade in a quality manner
so NOS is
A A A A the only
A A A A source.AA Strange that I would have one with bungled
threads - no
A A A A idea how
A A A A long it's been like that.
A A A A Mike Thomas
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Message: 21
Date: Sun, 26 May 2019 12:14:30 -0700
From: "Steve" <steve at snclocks.com>
To: <detomaso at server.detomasolist.com>
Subject: [DeTomaso] New Steering Wheel
Message-ID: <005a01d513f7$3efac790$bcf056b0$@snclocks.com>
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Been driving our car with the new Nardi steering wheel - I love it - it
matches my image of the car - a low, fast, sleek, sexy European GT!
Hopefully the attached picture is small enough to get posted. If not, a
full definition shot can be found here, along with some shots of our car
from a drive this morning:
https://nam02.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.snclocks.com%2FTheRestofourWorld%2FAutos%2F1973-Pantera-Detomaso-5332%2F&data=02%7C01%7C%7C347b4c77f7db44b29ef008d6e48c7eb4%7C84df9e7fe9f640afb435aaaaaaaaaaaa%7C1%7C0%7C636947689421592668&sdata=wxM1vORokjEe%2F3HI0NXVP3QkLkIvLd8GI6n7OSaVA14%3D&reserved=0
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Note, to see the photo full size - click on the larger photo to the right.
I mounted the Nardi wheel with an adapter that was specific for a Pantera -
and, hey, the splines matched up. Turns out I had to remove like 1/8 inch
from the back of the hub, and re-mill the slot for the turn indicator return
collar, but, with that behind us, it is perfect. I love the feel of the
leather, the ease of getting into the car, and the way it looks.
Stephen 5332
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Been driving our car with the new Nardi steering wheel - I love it - it
matches my image of the car - a low, fast, sleek, sexy European GT!
Hopefully the attached picture is small enough to get posted. If not,
a full definition shot can be found here, along with some shots of our
car from a drive this morning:
[1]https://nam02.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.snclocks.com%2FTheRestofourWorld%2FAutos%2F1973-Pantera-Detoma&data=02%7C01%7C%7C347b4c77f7db44b29ef008d6e48c7eb4%7C84df9e7fe9f640afb435aaaaaaaaaaaa%7C1%7C0%7C636947689421592668&sdata=0V4vUGFO%2Bv6UqqXdK%2BUZKxAH1Kjsun4%2BPCmNoVpAl4A%3D&reserved=0
so-5332/i-jsgmWTV
Note, to see the photo full size - click on the larger photo to the
right...
I mounted the Nardi wheel with an adapter that was specific for a
Pantera - and, hey, the splines matched up. Turns out I had to remove
like 1/8 inch from the back of the hub, and re-mill the slot for the
turn indicator return collar, but, with that behind us, it is perfect.
I love the feel of the leather, the ease of getting into the car, and
the way it looks.
Stephen 5332
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Message: 22
Date: Sun, 26 May 2019 13:30:08 -0700
From: Asa Jay Laughton <asajay at asajay.com>
Cc: DeTomaso Email List <detomaso at server.detomasolist.com>
Subject: Re: [DeTomaso] New Steering Wheel
Message-ID: <9c03163b-774a-4b6a-89b2-5fe4383b2fbc at asajay.com>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8"
Looks very sharp in there, nice wheel.
:)
Asa Jay
?Asa? Jay? Laughton, W7TSC, MSgt, USAFR, retired
Sent using Jedi Mind Tricks?
On May 26, 2019, 12:14, at 12:14, Steve <steve at snclocks.com> wrote:
>Been driving our car with the new Nardi steering wheel - I love it - it
>matches my image of the car - a low, fast, sleek, sexy European GT!
>Hopefully the attached picture is small enough to get posted. If not,
>a
>full definition shot can be found here, along with some shots of our
>car
>from a drive this morning:
>https://nam02.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.snclocks.com%2FTheRestofourWorld%2FAutos%2F1973-Pantera-Detomaso-5332%2F&data=02%7C01%7C%7C347b4c77f7db44b29ef008d6e48c7eb4%7C84df9e7fe9f640afb435aaaaaaaaaaaa%7C1%7C0%7C636947689421602686&sdata=MCUJjsi3BzIzZrxwRHYDtwp0OoD6QXHhRLCH5wX2GDI%3D&reserved=0
>i-jsgmWTV
>
>
>
>Note, to see the photo full size - click on the larger photo to the
>right.
>
>
>
>I mounted the Nardi wheel with an adapter that was specific for a
>Pantera -
>and, hey, the splines matched up. Turns out I had to remove like 1/8
>inch
>from the back of the hub, and re-mill the slot for the turn indicator
>return
>collar, but, with that behind us, it is perfect. I love the feel of
>the
>leather, the ease of getting into the car, and the way it looks.
>
>
>
>Stephen 5332
>
>
>
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Looks very sharp in there, nice wheel.
:)
Asa Jay
AsaA JayA Laughton, W7TSC, MSgt, USAFR, retired
Sent using Jedi Mind Tricks
On May 26, 2019, at 12:14, Steve <[1]steve at snclocks.com> wrote:
Been driving our car with the new Nardi steering wheel - I love it - it
matches my image of the car - a low, fast, sleek, sexy European GT!
Hopefully the attached picture is small enough to get posted. If not, a
full definition shot can be found here, along with some shots of our car
from a drive this morning:
[2]https://nam02.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.snclocks.com%2FTheRestofourWorld%2FAutos%2F1973-Pantera-Detomaso-5332%2F&data=02%7C01%7C%7C347b4c77f7db44b29ef008d6e48c7eb4%7C84df9e7fe9f640afb435aaaaaaaaaaaa%7C1%7C0%7C636947689421602686&sdata=MCUJjsi3BzIzZrxwRHYDtwp0OoD6QXHhRLCH5wX2GDI%3D&reserved=0
i-jsgmWTV
Note, to see the photo full size - click on the larger photo to the right.
I mounted the Nardi wheel with an adapter that was specific for a Pantera -
and, hey, the splines matched up. Turns out I had to remove like 1/8 inch
from the back of the hub, and re-mill the slot for the turn indicator return
collar, but, with that behind us, it is perfect. I love the feel of the
leather, the ease of getting into the car, and the way it looks.
Stephen 5332
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Message: 23
Date: Sun, 26 May 2019 14:51:24 -0700
From: "Mike & Elizabeth Thomas" <mbefthomas at comcast.net>
To: <detomaso at server.detomasolist.com>
Subject: [DeTomaso] SPC: Panther Prototype at Lake Cuomo
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Take a look at the attached Shmee 150 video shot at a Concourso at Lake
Cuomo. At about 1:30 min in. It didn't hit me until later in the video
when I saw a flash of the rear quarter. Then looking back through it, Tim
refers to it at this point as the Panther, and with the rest of the profile
and the headlights it hit me, this must be the Pantera prototype, or one of
them. Shmee is focused on the Bugatti for a while but does comes back to
it at about 6:50 min in and refers to it as the Ares Panther, based on a
Lamborghini Huracan, but does not seem to make any connection to the
DeTomaso Pantera other than to day it picks up styling cues from 'cars of
old'.
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Mike Thomas
Pres., Panteras Northwest
206-795-3302
Yellow '74 #6328
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Take a look at the attached Shmee 150 video shot at a Concourso at Lake
Cuomo. At about 1:30 min in. It didn't hit me until later in the
video when I saw a flash of the rear quarter. Then looking back
through it, Tim refers to it at this point as the Panther, and with the
rest of the profile and the headlights it hit me, this must be the
Pantera prototype, or one of them. Shmee is focused on the Bugatti
for a while but does comes back to it at about 6:50 min in and refers
to it as the Ares Panther, based on a Lamborghini Huracan, but does not
seem to make any connection to the DeTomaso Pantera other than to day
it picks up styling cues from `cars of old'.
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Mike Thomas
Pres., Panteras Northwest
206-795-3302
Yellow '74 #6328
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Message: 24
Date: Wed, 29 May 2019 05:55:22 +0000 (UTC)
From: laurieferrari at aol.com
To: detomaso at server.detomasolist.com
Subject: [DeTomaso] Tom Tjaarda Scholarship Fund (via Dave & Linda
Adler)
Message-ID: <756500889.5268268.1559109322488 at mail.yahoo.com>
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Sharing info. on Mrs. Tjaarda's aim to establish the?Tom Tjaarda Scholarship Fund and reach $10,000 scholarship for a worthy design student.? Thus far, generous contributions have hit nearly 3,000.? Dave and Linda would like to spread the word and let all those aware and those who are interested in being a part of Tom's legacy the ability to participate. Donations are accepted in any amount, and can be publicized or anonymous; whatever you are able.? Tom's wife, Paola, is reaching out to all who loved Tom, especially to Pantera Owners, to donate in honor of Tom.. details below.? ?If you'd like to join in, please go to DeTomaso International Facebook page for the link to donate or visit website?(Website:?https://www.ied.it/?)??Many of our Worldwide members have already shown their gratitude to Tom and their generosity for this worthy cause. The presentation of this scholarship Award goes to the gifted student selected on June 20th.? If interested, it seems timing is of the essence.?
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Attention all Tom Tjaarda and Pantera Enthusiasts!
Mrs. Paola Tjaarda, Tom Tjaarda's wife, has asked DeTomaso International and the DeTomaso Community, to participate in establishing a scholarship at the prestigious I.E.D. School of Design in Torino, Italy. The scholarship would be in Tom Tjaarda's beloved name and would be presented to an outstanding design student on June 20, 2019 in Torino, Italy. (Website:?https://www.ied.it/?)
The winning student will be selected by a formal Jury at the institution.
Mrs. Tjaarda is not able to fund the scholarship herself and has asked us to spearhead a campaign to raise at least 2,000 Euros or more.
We are original Pantera owners. We have had the good fortune to meet with Tom and Paola over the years. Although he designed many important automobiles, the Pantera was his favorite. Just look how this amazing car has touched all of our lives. Tom loved how passionate Pantera owners are about the car and how much pleasure the Pantera gave to so many.?
Tom touched so many or our lives when he visited the US and spoke at events or signed autographs and sun visors, dashboards and more for us. When the DeTomaso Factory did not represent the marque in the US, Tom was there to be what we called, "the face of DeTomaso". He spoke so well at many Concours, conventions and universities about his experience with A. DeTomaso and the development of the Pantera, Longchamp and Deauville.?
If you ever met the gentleman, you would know exactly what we are talking about. He was an inspiration. Humble, intelligent and a person of great integrity and creativity. Even when Tom was critically ill, he would help when called upon to teach and inform the Pantera enthusiast.
Please, let us honor Tom in this small way and help an outstanding automobile design student follow in Tom's footsteps. On behalf of Mrs. Tjaarda, we thank you for your contributions. Time is running short to raise these funds. Kindly donate what you are able to now. All funds raised less any Gofundme expenses will be donated to the scholarship fund in Tom Tjaarda's good name.
Respectfully,Dave and Linda Adler
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Sharing info. on Mrs. Tjaarda's aim to establish the Tom Tjaarda Scholarship
Fund and reach $10,000 scholarship for a worthy design student. Thus far,
generous contributions have hit nearly 3,000. Dave and Linda would like to
spread the word and let all those aware and those who are interested in being
a part of Tom's legacy the ability to participate. Donations are accepted in
any amount, and can be publicized or anonymous; whatever you are able. Tom's
wife, Paola, is reaching out to all who loved Tom, especially to Pantera
Owners, to donate in honor of Tom.. details below. If you'd like to join
in, please go to DeTomaso International Facebook page for the link to donate
or visit website (Website: [1]https://nam02.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.ied.it%2F&data=02%7C01%7C%7C347b4c77f7db44b29ef008d6e48c7eb4%7C84df9e7fe9f640afb435aaaaaaaaaaaa%7C1%7C0%7C636947689421622702&sdata=83uplNKMHsAZVPBV3G0NIJdsONLDDwVYfmAp6cByKgo%3D&reserved=0 ) Many of our Worldwide
members have already shown their gratitude to Tom and their generosity for
this worthy cause. The presentation of this scholarship Award goes to the
gifted student selected on June 20th. If interested, it seems timing is of
the essence.
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Attention all Tom Tjaarda and Pantera Enthusiasts!
Mrs. Paola Tjaarda, Tom Tjaarda's wife, has asked DeTomaso
International and the DeTomaso Community, to participate in
establishing a scholarship at the prestigious I.E.D. School of Design
in Torino, Italy. The scholarship would be in Tom Tjaarda's beloved
name and would be presented to an outstanding design student on June
20, 2019 in Torino, Italy. (Website: [4]https://nam02.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.ied.it%2F&data=02%7C01%7C%7C347b4c77f7db44b29ef008d6e48c7eb4%7C84df9e7fe9f640afb435aaaaaaaaaaaa%7C1%7C0%7C636947689421622702&sdata=83uplNKMHsAZVPBV3G0NIJdsONLDDwVYfmAp6cByKgo%3D&reserved=0 )
The winning student will be selected by a formal Jury at the
institution.
Mrs. Tjaarda is not able to fund the scholarship herself and has asked
us to spearhead a campaign to raise at least 2,000 Euros or more.
We are original Pantera owners. We have had the good fortune to meet
with Tom and Paola over the years. Although he designed many important
automobiles, the Pantera was his favorite. Just look how this amazing
car has touched all of our lives. Tom loved how passionate Pantera
owners are about the car and how much pleasure the Pantera gave to so
many.
Tom touched so many or our lives when he visited the US and spoke at
events or signed autographs and sun visors, dashboards and more for us.
When the DeTomaso Factory did not represent the marque in the US, Tom
was there to be what we called, "the face of DeTomaso". He spoke so
well at many Concours, conventions and universities about his
experience with A. DeTomaso and the development of the Pantera,
Longchamp and Deauville.
If you ever met the gentleman, you would know exactly what we are
talking about. He was an inspiration. Humble, intelligent and a person
of great integrity and creativity. Even when Tom was critically ill, he
would help when called upon to teach and inform the Pantera enthusiast.
Please, let us honor Tom in this small way and help an outstanding
automobile design student follow in Tom's footsteps. On behalf of Mrs.
Tjaarda, we thank you for your contributions. Time is running short to
raise these funds. Kindly donate what you are able to now. All funds
raised less any Gofundme expenses will be donated to the scholarship
fund in Tom Tjaarda's good name.
Respectfully,Dave and Linda Adler [39090790_1557356337669174_r.jpeg]
References
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2. https://nam02.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.gofundme.com%2Ftom-tjaarda-scholarship-fund%3FteamInvite%3DlkJW4LCV1okG6cwainyDcJF0uduMqbj2DNmqn36z0k2fYAIYZKJqwdbVNIzodDcT%26fbclid%3DIwAR2TIFCwWaCKnWXT8A5iKlkkV3ocYRil6Fn5y2Px5KcdxdBh0vCm1koMTyA&data=02%7C01%7C%7C347b4c77f7db44b29ef008d6e48c7eb4%7C84df9e7fe9f640afb435aaaaaaaaaaaa%7C1%7C0%7C636947689421632701&sdata=v7jrkOxcel0kVy0QtB9hr9uKTtXxNstViGPbekRm1iM%3D&reserved=0
3. https://nam02.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=https%3A%2F%2Ftwitter.com%2Fintent%2Ftweet%3Ftext%3DTom%2BTjaarda%2BScholarship%2BFund%26url%3Dhttps%253A%252F%252Fwww.gofundme.com%252Ftom-tjaarda-scholarship-fund%253Fpc%253Dtw_dn_cpgntopnavlarge_r%2526rcid%253Dr01-155910460186-622849e2b3434d88&data=02%7C01%7C%7C347b4c77f7db44b29ef008d6e48c7eb4%7C84df9e7fe9f640afb435aaaaaaaaaaaa%7C1%7C0%7C636947689421632701&sdata=Lbf6iLsgoXkc3VW8rmL%2FrGOUIW0Cb3boG1%2BkB4VhBq4%3D&reserved=0
4. https://nam02.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.ied.it%2F&data=02%7C01%7C%7C347b4c77f7db44b29ef008d6e48c7eb4%7C84df9e7fe9f640afb435aaaaaaaaaaaa%7C1%7C0%7C636947689421632701&sdata=F50w0VTADZkeDfP2YcPUp9sH4qjDoDoNMVse8Awcf7U%3D&reserved=0
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Message: 25
Date: Wed, 29 May 2019 17:22:29 +0000 (UTC)
From: Curt Hall <cuvee at sbcglobal.net>
To: Detomaso Email List <detomaso at detomasolist.com>, Peter Kovacs
<peter-kovacs at sbcglobal.net>, Mike Drew <mikeldrew at aol.com>
Subject: [DeTomaso] Reno Fun Rally
Message-ID: <1999599342.6311806.1559150549326 at mail.yahoo.com>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8"
Getting close to the Reno Event...Haven't heard much if any one from Capital Panteras or the PCNC are heading to Reno? If so, what Route are people taking? It would be nice to travel with the group.
If anyone has more info Please let me know.
Thank Curt Hall
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Getting close to the Reno Event...Haven't heard much if any one from
Capital Panteras or the PCNC are heading to Reno? If so, what Route are
people taking? It would be nice to travel with the group.
If anyone has more info Please let me know.
Thank Curt Hall
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Message: 26
Date: Wed, 29 May 2019 13:08:56 -0700
From: Mike Drew <MikeLDrew at aol.com>
To: Curt Hall <cuvee at sbcglobal.net>
Cc: Detomaso Email List <detomaso at detomasolist.com>, Peter Kovacs
<peter-kovacs at sbcglobal.net>
Subject: Re: [DeTomaso] Reno Fun Rally
Message-ID: <C5D09622-FAFE-4738-ADAA-4469E682715A at aol.com>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8"
Curt,
All you need to do is read the PCNC newsletter (which is free for all to read).
https://nam02.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.panteraclubnorcal.org%2Fg---current-pcnc-newsletter&data=02%7C01%7C%7C347b4c77f7db44b29ef008d6e48c7eb4%7C84df9e7fe9f640afb435aaaaaaaaaaaa%7C1%7C0%7C636947689421632701&sdata=KLbMQEAUQUtg5xRFwb%2FGg4SrZn7kyu83xKeuk8eERHU%3D&reserved=0
We will be enjoying a scenic drive through the twisties and a brunch at the idyllic mountain home of Marcus and Irene Smith. See the flyer in the newsletter with all the info.
Looking forward to seeing everyone there! I?ve heard from several people who haven?t attend a Fun Rally in years who are planning on attending this one. If people are on the fence, it?s never too late to sign up. See you there!
Mike
Sent from my iPad
> On May 29, 2019, at 10:22, Curt Hall <cuvee at sbcglobal.net> wrote:
>
> Getting close to the Reno Event...Haven't heard much if any one from Capital Panteras or the PCNC are heading to Reno? If so, what Route are people taking? It would be nice to travel with the group.
>
> If anyone has more info Please let me know.
>
> Thank Curt Hall
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Curt,
All you need to do is read the PCNC newsletter (which is free for all
to read).
[1]https://nam02.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.panteraclubnorcal.org%2Fg---current-pcnc-newsletter&data=02%7C01%7C%7C347b4c77f7db44b29ef008d6e48c7eb4%7C84df9e7fe9f640afb435aaaaaaaaaaaa%7C1%7C0%7C636947689421632701&sdata=KLbMQEAUQUtg5xRFwb%2FGg4SrZn7kyu83xKeuk8eERHU%3D&reserved=0
We will be enjoying a scenic drive through the twisties and a brunch at
the idyllic mountain home of Marcus and Irene Smith. See the flyer in
the newsletter with all the info.
Looking forward to seeing everyone there! I've heard from several
people who haven't attend a Fun Rally in years who are planning on
attending this one. If people are on the fence, it's never too late to
sign up. See you there!
Mike
Sent from my iPad
On May 29, 2019, at 10:22, Curt Hall <[2]cuvee at sbcglobal.net> wrote:
Getting close to the Reno Event...Haven't heard much if any one from
Capital Panteras or the PCNC are heading to Reno? If so, what Route are
people taking? It would be nice to travel with the group.
If anyone has more info Please let me know.
Thank Curt Hall
References
1. https://nam02.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.panteraclubnorcal.org%2Fg---current-pcnc-newsletter&data=02%7C01%7C%7C347b4c77f7db44b29ef008d6e48c7eb4%7C84df9e7fe9f640afb435aaaaaaaaaaaa%7C1%7C0%7C636947689421632701&sdata=KLbMQEAUQUtg5xRFwb%2FGg4SrZn7kyu83xKeuk8eERHU%3D&reserved=0
2. mailto:cuvee at sbcglobal.net
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Message: 27
Date: Wed, 29 May 2019 20:44:56 +0000 (UTC)
From: Curt Hall <cuvee at sbcglobal.net>
To: Mike Drew <MikeLDrew at aol.com>
Cc: Detomaso Email List <detomaso at detomasolist.com>, Peter Kovacs
<peter-kovacs at sbcglobal.net>
Subject: Re: [DeTomaso] Reno Fun Rally
Message-ID: <1156665880.6423447.1559162696552 at mail.yahoo.com>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8"
Hey Mike...
I'm going and Peter may go to the Smith's house but not to Reno. Mark and Cindy are leaving on Thursday.Are You going up 88 if so We can meet up some place along 88? I've made contact with Larry Finch so Us three could meet up with the Group. Unless You take a different Route??
Curt
On Wednesday, May 29, 2019, 1:13:33 PM PDT, Mike Drew <MikeLDrew at aol.com> wrote:
Curt,
All you need to do is read the PCNC newsletter (which is free for all to read). ?
https://nam02.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.panteraclubnorcal.org%2Fg---current-pcnc-newsletter&data=02%7C01%7C%7C347b4c77f7db44b29ef008d6e48c7eb4%7C84df9e7fe9f640afb435aaaaaaaaaaaa%7C1%7C0%7C636947689421642694&sdata=f8y1h8sSfT6JJLM0HZwU7cdkYLVqH7l204cJ9uIdtVw%3D&reserved=0
We will be enjoying a scenic drive through the twisties and a brunch at the idyllic mountain home of Marcus and Irene Smith. See the flyer in the newsletter with all the info.
Looking forward to seeing everyone there! I?ve heard from several people who haven?t attend a Fun Rally in years who are planning on attending this one. ?If people are on the fence, it?s never too late to sign up. See you there!
Mike?
Sent from my iPad
On May 29, 2019, at 10:22, Curt Hall <cuvee at sbcglobal.net> wrote:
Getting close to the Reno Event...Haven't heard much if any one from Capital Panteras or the PCNC are heading to Reno? If so, what Route are people taking? It would be nice to travel with the group.
If anyone has more info Please let me know.
Thank Curt Hall
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Hey Mike...
I'm going and Peter may go to the Smith's house but not to Reno. Mark
and Cindy are leaving on Thursday.
Are You going up 88 if so We can meet up some place along 88? I've made
contact with Larry Finch so Us three could meet up with the Group.
Unless You take a different Route?
Curt
On Wednesday, May 29, 2019, 1:13:33 PM PDT, Mike Drew
<MikeLDrew at aol.com> wrote:
Curt,
All you need to do is read the PCNC newsletter (which is free for all
to read).
[1]https://nam02.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.panteraclubnorcal.org%2Fg---current-pcnc-newsletter&data=02%7C01%7C%7C347b4c77f7db44b29ef008d6e48c7eb4%7C84df9e7fe9f640afb435aaaaaaaaaaaa%7C1%7C0%7C636947689421642694&sdata=f8y1h8sSfT6JJLM0HZwU7cdkYLVqH7l204cJ9uIdtVw%3D&reserved=0
We will be enjoying a scenic drive through the twisties and a brunch at
the idyllic mountain home of Marcus and Irene Smith. See the flyer in
the newsletter with all the info.
Looking forward to seeing everyone there! Iave heard from several
people who havenat attend a Fun Rally in years who are planning on
attending this one. If people are on the fence, itas never too late to
sign up. See you there!
Mike
Sent from my iPad
On May 29, 2019, at 10:22, Curt Hall <[2]cuvee at sbcglobal.net> wrote:
Getting close to the Reno Event...Haven't heard much if any one from
Capital Panteras or the PCNC are heading to Reno? If so, what Route are
people taking? It would be nice to travel with the group.
If anyone has more info Please let me know.
Thank Curt Hall
References
1. https://nam02.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.panteraclubnorcal.org%2Fg---current-pcnc-newsletter&data=02%7C01%7C%7C347b4c77f7db44b29ef008d6e48c7eb4%7C84df9e7fe9f640afb435aaaaaaaaaaaa%7C1%7C0%7C636947689421642694&sdata=f8y1h8sSfT6JJLM0HZwU7cdkYLVqH7l204cJ9uIdtVw%3D&reserved=0
2. mailto:cuvee at sbcglobal.net
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Message: 28
Date: Wed, 29 May 2019 21:37:49 +0000
From: Julian Kift <julian_kift at hotmail.com>
To: Curt Hall <cuvee at sbcglobal.net>, Mike Drew <MikeLDrew at aol.com>
Cc: Detomaso Email List <detomaso at detomasolist.com>, Peter Kovacs
<peter-kovacs at sbcglobal.net>
Subject: Re: [DeTomaso] Reno Fun Rally
Message-ID:
<BYAPR08MB6118467B55CDF68640E40F14951F0 at BYAPR08MB6118.namprd08.prod.outlook.com>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset="windows-1252"
Mike,
As much of a riveting read as the PCNC Newsletters are they seem to have no mention of the Reno Fun Rally and any scenic drive?
Julian
________________________________
From: DeTomaso <detomaso-bounces at server.detomasolist.com> on behalf of Mike Drew via DeTomaso <detomaso at server.detomasolist.com>
Sent: Wednesday, May 29, 2019 1:08 PM
To: Curt Hall
Cc: Detomaso Email List; Peter Kovacs
Subject: Re: [DeTomaso] Reno Fun Rally
Curt,
All you need to do is read the PCNC newsletter (which is free for all to read).
https://nam02.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.panteraclubnorcal.org%2Fg---current-pcnc-newsletter&data=02%7C01%7C%7C347b4c77f7db44b29ef008d6e48c7eb4%7C84df9e7fe9f640afb435aaaaaaaaaaaa%7C1%7C0%7C636947689421642694&sdata=f8y1h8sSfT6JJLM0HZwU7cdkYLVqH7l204cJ9uIdtVw%3D&reserved=0
We will be enjoying a scenic drive through the twisties and a brunch at the idyllic mountain home of Marcus and Irene Smith. See the flyer in the newsletter with all the info.
Looking forward to seeing everyone there! I?ve heard from several people who haven?t attend a Fun Rally in years who are planning on attending this one. If people are on the fence, it?s never too late to sign up. See you there!
Mike
Sent from my iPad
> On May 29, 2019, at 10:22, Curt Hall <cuvee at sbcglobal.net> wrote:
>
> Getting close to the Reno Event...Haven't heard much if any one from Capital Panteras or the PCNC are heading to Reno? If so, what Route are people taking? It would be nice to travel with the group.
>
> If anyone has more info Please let me know.
>
> Thank Curt Hall
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Mike,
As much of a riveting read as the PCNC Newsletters are they seem to
have no mention of the Reno Fun Rally and any scenic drive?
Julian
__________________________________________________________________
From: DeTomaso <detomaso-bounces at server.detomasolist.com> on behalf of
Mike Drew via DeTomaso <detomaso at server.detomasolist.com>
Sent: Wednesday, May 29, 2019 1:08 PM
To: Curt Hall
Cc: Detomaso Email List; Peter Kovacs
Subject: Re: [DeTomaso] Reno Fun Rally
Curt,
All you need to do is read the PCNC newsletter (which is free for all
to read).
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We will be enjoying a scenic drive through the twisties and a brunch at
the idyllic mountain home of Marcus and Irene Smith. See the flyer in
the newsletter with all the info.
Looking forward to seeing everyone there! I've heard from several
people who haven't attend a Fun Rally in years who are planning on
attending this one. If people are on the fence, it's never too late to
sign up. See you there!
Mike
Sent from my iPad
> On May 29, 2019, at 10:22, Curt Hall <cuvee at sbcglobal.net> wrote:
>
> Getting close to the Reno Event...Haven't heard much if any one from
Capital Panteras or the PCNC are heading to Reno? If so, what Route are
people taking? It would be nice to travel with the group.
>
> If anyone has more info Please let me know.
>
> Thank Curt Hall
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Message: 29
Date: Wed, 29 May 2019 21:57:01 +0000 (UTC)
From: laurieferrari at aol.com
To: jeffcobb1 at me.com
Cc: detomaso at server.detomasolist.com, rcumberford at gmail.com,
woehlrwrld at aol.com
Subject: Re: [DeTomaso] Tom Tjaarda Scholarship Fund (via Dave & Linda
Adler)
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Thank you Jeff for being involved and for sharing such fond memories with Tom.?Dave says many people contributed today and is so very grateful!!!To make it easier for those on the Forum who wish to participate, here is the direct link for contributing:
This is the GoFundMe link
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-----Original Message-----
From: Jeff Cobb <jeffcobb1 at me.com>
To: laurieferrari <laurieferrari at aol.com>
Cc: Robert Cumberford <rcumberford at gmail.com>; Markus + Kristi. Woehler <woehlrwrld at aol.com>
Sent: Wed, May 29, 2019 2:47 am
Subject: Re: [DeTomaso] Tom Tjaarda Scholarship Fund (via Dave & Linda Adler)
Hello all,
? This sounds like fine thing to do. I can see Tom nodding yes to this action right now.
Tom's warm, humble, no hidden agenda and honest friendship left me with great memories and taught me to increase my inspiration to create and make what my minds eye sees. Plus his many life stories were great.
? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? At the 2001 Lamborghini Monterey club dinner with friends. We arrived an hour late only to then realize that we were on time when meeting with Italians.
? What an honor it is for me to have known Tom and to be able to call him my friend.
Honest friends are few and far. I stand prouder now. He enriched all our lives.
? Maybe Tom is doing cloud base designs now! Funny that the Carol King song of "So far away" just came on.
? Thank you Paola for Tom coming to Louisiana those three times, he created wonderful memories for many here. A friend at the Italian restaurant we would go to asked about Tom last week. Brought me a tear as told of Tom leaving us.
Thank you for sending this note and I will do my part in helping.
Jeff Cobb
Baton Rouge, La.
Sent from my brain.
> On May 29, 2019, at 12:55 AM, Laurie Ferrari via DeTomaso <detomaso at server.detomasolist.com> wrote:
>
> Sharing info. on Mrs. Tjaarda's aim to establish the Tom Tjaarda Scholarship
> Fund and reach $10,000 scholarship for a worthy design student.? Thus far,
> generous contributions have hit nearly 3,000.? Dave and Linda would like to
> spread the word and let all those aware and those who are interested in being
> a part of Tom's legacy the ability to participate. Donations are accepted in
> any amount, and can be publicized or anonymous; whatever you are able.? Tom's
> wife, Paola, is reaching out to all who loved Tom, especially to Pantera
> Owners, to donate in honor of Tom.. details below.? If you'd like to join
> in, please go to DeTomaso International Facebook page for the link to donate
> or visit website (Website: [1]https://nam02.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.ied.it%2F&data=02%7C01%7C%7C347b4c77f7db44b29ef008d6e48c7eb4%7C84df9e7fe9f640afb435aaaaaaaaaaaa%7C1%7C0%7C636947689421652729&sdata=23B%2B9OEFiToaUBftBac4UmYnDCbP6%2FMS9dYkU7TS6OE%3D&reserved=0 )? Many of our Worldwide
> members have already shown their gratitude to Tom and their generosity for
> this worthy cause. The presentation of this scholarship Award goes to the
> gifted student selected on June 20th.? If interested, it seems timing is of
> the essence.
>
>? [2] Share
>? [3]? Tweet
>? ? 32 shares
>? Attention all Tom Tjaarda and Pantera Enthusiasts!
>? Mrs. Paola Tjaarda, Tom Tjaarda's wife, has asked DeTomaso
>? International and the DeTomaso Community, to participate in
>? establishing a scholarship at the prestigious I.E.D. School of Design
>? in Torino, Italy. The scholarship would be in Tom Tjaarda's beloved
>? name and would be presented to an outstanding design student on June
>? 20, 2019 in Torino, Italy. (Website: [4]https://nam02.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.ied.it%2F&data=02%7C01%7C%7C347b4c77f7db44b29ef008d6e48c7eb4%7C84df9e7fe9f640afb435aaaaaaaaaaaa%7C1%7C0%7C636947689421652729&sdata=23B%2B9OEFiToaUBftBac4UmYnDCbP6%2FMS9dYkU7TS6OE%3D&reserved=0 )
>? The winning student will be selected by a formal Jury at the
>? institution.
>? Mrs. Tjaarda is not able to fund the scholarship herself and has asked
>? us to spearhead a campaign to raise at least 2,000 Euros or more.
>? We are original Pantera owners. We have had the good fortune to meet
>? with Tom and Paola over the years. Although he designed many important
>? automobiles, the Pantera was his favorite. Just look how this amazing
>? car has touched all of our lives. Tom loved how passionate Pantera
>? owners are about the car and how much pleasure the Pantera gave to so
>? many.
>? Tom touched so many or our lives when he visited the US and spoke at
>? events or signed autographs and sun visors, dashboards and more for us.
>? When the DeTomaso Factory did not represent the marque in the US, Tom
>? was there to be what we called, "the face of DeTomaso". He spoke so
>? well at many Concours, conventions and universities about his
>? experience with A. DeTomaso and the development of the Pantera,
>? Longchamp and Deauville.
>? If you ever met the gentleman, you would know exactly what we are
>? talking about. He was an inspiration. Humble, intelligent and a person
>? of great integrity and creativity. Even when Tom was critically ill, he
>? would help when called upon to teach and inform the Pantera enthusiast.
>? Please, let us honor Tom in this small way and help an outstanding
>? automobile design student follow in Tom's footsteps. On behalf of Mrs.
>? Tjaarda, we thank you for your contributions. Time is running short to
>? raise these funds. Kindly donate what you are able to now. All funds
>? raised less any Gofundme expenses will be donated to the scholarship
>? fund in Tom Tjaarda's good name.
>? Respectfully,Dave and Linda Adler [39090790_1557356337669174_r.jpeg]
>
> References
>
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Thank you Jeff for being involved and for sharing such fond memories
with Tom.
Dave says many people contributed today and is so very grateful!!!
To make it easier for those on the Forum who wish to participate, here
is the direct link for contributing:
This is the GoFundMe link
[1]https://nam02.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.gofundme.com%2Ftom-tjaarda-scholarship-fund%3FteamInvite%3DlkJ&data=02%7C01%7C%7C347b4c77f7db44b29ef008d6e48c7eb4%7C84df9e7fe9f640afb435aaaaaaaaaaaa%7C1%7C0%7C636947689421662740&sdata=KcfXrnXnNtTqNO2rkWqYo1jdUJwtciP%2BVynvmE5eANk%3D&reserved=0
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-----Original Message-----
From: Jeff Cobb <jeffcobb1 at me.com>
To: laurieferrari <laurieferrari at aol.com>
Cc: Robert Cumberford <rcumberford at gmail.com>; Markus + Kristi. Woehler
<woehlrwrld at aol.com>
Sent: Wed, May 29, 2019 2:47 am
Subject: Re: [DeTomaso] Tom Tjaarda Scholarship Fund (via Dave & Linda
Adler)
Hello all,
This sounds like fine thing to do. I can see Tom nodding yes to this
action right now.
Tom's warm, humble, no hidden agenda and honest friendship left me with
great memories and taught me to increase my inspiration to create and
make what my minds eye sees. Plus his many life stories were great.
At the 2001 Lamborghini Monterey club
dinner with friends. We arrived an hour late only to then realize that
we were on time when meeting with Italians.
What an honor it is for me to have known Tom and to be able to call
him my friend.
Honest friends are few and far. I stand prouder now. He enriched all
our lives.
Maybe Tom is doing cloud base designs now! Funny that the Carol King
song of "So far away" just came on.
Thank you Paola for Tom coming to Louisiana those three times, he
created wonderful memories for many here. A friend at the Italian
restaurant we would go to asked about Tom last week. Brought me a tear
as told of Tom leaving us.
Thank you for sending this note and I will do my part in helping.
Jeff Cobb
Baton Rouge, La.
Sent from my brain.
> On May 29, 2019, at 12:55 AM, Laurie Ferrari via DeTomaso
<[2]detomaso at server.detomasolist.com> wrote:
>
> Sharing info. on Mrs. Tjaarda's aim to establish the Tom Tjaarda
Scholarship
> Fund and reach $10,000 scholarship for a worthy design student. Thus
far,
> generous contributions have hit nearly 3,000. Dave and Linda would
like to
> spread the word and let all those aware and those who are interested
in being
> a part of Tom's legacy the ability to participate. Donations are
accepted in
> any amount, and can be publicized or anonymous; whatever you are
able. Tom's
> wife, Paola, is reaching out to all who loved Tom, especially to
Pantera
> Owners, to donate in honor of Tom.. details below. If you'd like to
join
> in, please go to DeTomaso International Facebook page for the link to
donate
> or visit website (Website: [1][3]https://nam02.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.ied.it%2F&data=02%7C01%7C%7C347b4c77f7db44b29ef008d6e48c7eb4%7C84df9e7fe9f640afb435aaaaaaaaaaaa%7C1%7C0%7C636947689421662740&sdata=xdO2BrNREfLQCg70punzzyk4wG2hiXqOXXQIZhag6uQ%3D&reserved=0 ) Many of our
Worldwide
> members have already shown their gratitude to Tom and their
generosity for
> this worthy cause. The presentation of this scholarship Award goes to
the
> gifted student selected on June 20th. If interested, it seems timing
is of
> the essence.
>
> [2] Share
> [3] Tweet
> 32 shares
> Attention all Tom Tjaarda and Pantera Enthusiasts!
> Mrs. Paola Tjaarda, Tom Tjaarda's wife, has asked DeTomaso
> International and the DeTomaso Community, to participate in
> establishing a scholarship at the prestigious I.E.D. School of
Design
> in Torino, Italy. The scholarship would be in Tom Tjaarda's beloved
> name and would be presented to an outstanding design student on June
> 20, 2019 in Torino, Italy. (Website: [4][4]https://nam02.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.ied.it%2F&data=02%7C01%7C%7C347b4c77f7db44b29ef008d6e48c7eb4%7C84df9e7fe9f640afb435aaaaaaaaaaaa%7C1%7C0%7C636947689421662740&sdata=xdO2BrNREfLQCg70punzzyk4wG2hiXqOXXQIZhag6uQ%3D&reserved=0 )
> The winning student will be selected by a formal Jury at the
> institution.
> Mrs. Tjaarda is not able to fund the scholarship herself and has
asked
> us to spearhead a campaign to raise at least 2,000 Euros or more.
> We are original Pantera owners. We have had the good fortune to meet
> with Tom and Paola over the years. Although he designed many
important
> automobiles, the Pantera was his favorite. Just look how this
amazing
> car has touched all of our lives. Tom loved how passionate Pantera
> owners are about the car and how much pleasure the Pantera gave to
so
> many.
> Tom touched so many or our lives when he visited the US and spoke at
> events or signed autographs and sun visors, dashboards and more for
us.
> When the DeTomaso Factory did not represent the marque in the US,
Tom
> was there to be what we called, "the face of DeTomaso". He spoke so
> well at many Concours, conventions and universities about his
> experience with A. DeTomaso and the development of the Pantera,
> Longchamp and Deauville.
> If you ever met the gentleman, you would know exactly what we are
> talking about. He was an inspiration. Humble, intelligent and a
person
> of great integrity and creativity. Even when Tom was critically ill,
he
> would help when called upon to teach and inform the Pantera
enthusiast.
> Please, let us honor Tom in this small way and help an outstanding
> automobile design student follow in Tom's footsteps. On behalf of
Mrs.
> Tjaarda, we thank you for your contributions. Time is running short
to
> raise these funds. Kindly donate what you are able to now. All funds
> raised less any Gofundme expenses will be donated to the scholarship
> fund in Tom Tjaarda's good name.
> Respectfully,Dave and Linda Adler [39090790_1557356337669174_r.jpeg]
>
> References
>
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Message: 30
Date: Wed, 29 May 2019 15:29:04 -0700
From: Mike Drew <MikeLDrew at aol.com>
To: Curt Hall <cuvee at sbcglobal.net>
Cc: Detomaso Email List <detomaso at detomasolist.com>, Peter Kovacs
<peter-kovacs at sbcglobal.net>
Subject: Re: [DeTomaso] Reno Fun Rally
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Curt,
Mea Dumbass.
I forgot that we sent the flyer directly to PCNC members but it wasn?t in last month?s newsletter. It is in this month?s newsletter which I am screwing together now (just got home a few hours ago from a six day Pantera Rally in Ontario and Quebec....)
So, me es stupido.
I will have the newsletter done in 5-6 more hours and post it to the site, so the link I sent out today will be valid for these purposes tomorrow. Sorry about the confusion.
And yes, the BBQ is at the Smith?s house off Hwy 88 in Pine Grove, and we will then take 88 to 395 to Reno.
See you There!
Oh, and here?s one pic from the Canada rally...Fred and Nancy Phillips in Mark Charlton?s Longchamp GTS (out of gas...) and Lori in Fred?s 1982 GT5 (which got a much needed carb change later in the day....)
Wheeee!!!
Mike
Sent from my iPad
> On May 29, 2019, at 13:44, Curt Hall <cuvee at sbcglobal.net> wrote:
>
> Hey Mike...
>
> I'm going and Peter may go to the Smith's house but not to Reno. Mark and Cindy are leaving on Thursday.
> Are You going up 88 if so We can meet up some place along 88? I've made contact with Larry Finch so Us three could meet up with the Group. Unless You take a different Route?
>
> Curt
>
> On Wednesday, May 29, 2019, 1:13:33 PM PDT, Mike Drew <MikeLDrew at aol.com> wrote:
>
>
> Curt,
>
> All you need to do is read the PCNC newsletter (which is free for all to read).
>
> https://nam02.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.panteraclubnorcal.org%2Fg---current-pcnc-newsletter&data=02%7C01%7C%7C347b4c77f7db44b29ef008d6e48c7eb4%7C84df9e7fe9f640afb435aaaaaaaaaaaa%7C1%7C0%7C636947689421692737&sdata=5UZIB1u3TD1Hfu1haziwHfMpo0LNH5BtVE0GcUca%2Bhk%3D&reserved=0
>
> We will be enjoying a scenic drive through the twisties and a brunch at the idyllic mountain home of Marcus and Irene Smith. See the flyer in the newsletter with all the info.
>
> Looking forward to seeing everyone there! I?ve heard from several people who haven?t attend a Fun Rally in years who are planning on attending this one. If people are on the fence, it?s never too late to sign up. See you there!
>
> Mike
>
>
> Sent from my iPad
>
>> On May 29, 2019, at 10:22, Curt Hall <cuvee at sbcglobal.net> wrote:
>>
>> Getting close to the Reno Event...Haven't heard much if any one from Capital Panteras or the PCNC are heading to Reno? If so, what Route are people taking? It would be nice to travel with the group.
>>
>> If anyone has more info Please let me know.
>>
>> Thank Curt Hall
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Curt,
Mea Dumbass.
I forgot that we sent the flyer directly to PCNC members but it wasn't
in last month's newsletter. It is in this month's newsletter which I am
screwing together now (just got home a few hours ago from a six day
Pantera Rally in Ontario and Quebec....)
So, me es stupido.
I will have the newsletter done in 5-6 more hours and post it to the
site, so the link I sent out today will be valid for these purposes
tomorrow. Sorry about the confusion.
And yes, the BBQ is at the Smith's house off Hwy 88 in Pine Grove, and
we will then take 88 to 395 to Reno.
See you There!
Oh, and here's one pic from the Canada rally...Fred and Nancy Phillips
in Mark Charlton's Longchamp GTS (out of gas...) and Lori in Fred's
1982 GT5 (which got a much needed carb change later in the day....)
image1.jpeg
Wheeee!!!
Mike
Sent from my iPad
On May 29, 2019, at 13:44, Curt Hall <[1]cuvee at sbcglobal.net> wrote:
Hey Mike...
I'm going and Peter may go to the Smith's house but not to Reno. Mark
and Cindy are leaving on Thursday.
Are You going up 88 if so We can meet up some place along 88? I've made
contact with Larry Finch so Us three could meet up with the Group.
Unless You take a different Route?
Curt
On Wednesday, May 29, 2019, 1:13:33 PM PDT, Mike Drew
<[2]MikeLDrew at aol.com> wrote:
Curt,
All you need to do is read the PCNC newsletter (which is free for all
to read).
[3]https://nam02.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.panteraclubnorcal.org%2Fg---current-pcnc-newsletter&data=02%7C01%7C%7C347b4c77f7db44b29ef008d6e48c7eb4%7C84df9e7fe9f640afb435aaaaaaaaaaaa%7C1%7C0%7C636947689421692737&sdata=5UZIB1u3TD1Hfu1haziwHfMpo0LNH5BtVE0GcUca%2Bhk%3D&reserved=0
We will be enjoying a scenic drive through the twisties and a brunch at
the idyllic mountain home of Marcus and Irene Smith. See the flyer in
the newsletter with all the info.
Looking forward to seeing everyone there! I've heard from several
people who haven't attend a Fun Rally in years who are planning on
attending this one. If people are on the fence, it's never too late to
sign up. See you there!
Mike
Sent from my iPad
On May 29, 2019, at 10:22, Curt Hall <[4]cuvee at sbcglobal.net> wrote:
Getting close to the Reno Event...Haven't heard much if any one from
Capital Panteras or the PCNC are heading to Reno? If so, what Route are
people taking? It would be nice to travel with the group.
If anyone has more info Please let me know.
Thank Curt Hall
References
1. mailto:cuvee at sbcglobal.net
2. mailto:MikeLDrew at aol.com
3. https://nam02.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.panteraclubnorcal.org%2Fg---current-pcnc-newsletter&data=02%7C01%7C%7C347b4c77f7db44b29ef008d6e48c7eb4%7C84df9e7fe9f640afb435aaaaaaaaaaaa%7C1%7C0%7C636947689421692737&sdata=5UZIB1u3TD1Hfu1haziwHfMpo0LNH5BtVE0GcUca%2Bhk%3D&reserved=0
4. mailto:cuvee at sbcglobal.net
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Message: 31
Date: Wed, 29 May 2019 23:22:02 +0000 (UTC)
From: Curt Hall <cuvee at sbcglobal.net>
To: Mike Drew <MikeLDrew at aol.com>
Cc: Detomaso Email List <detomaso at detomasolist.com>, Peter Kovacs
<peter-kovacs at sbcglobal.net>
Subject: Re: [DeTomaso] Reno Fun Rally
Message-ID: <1328906931.6484887.1559172123011 at mail.yahoo.com>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8"
No Problems Mike...
Just thought if Your going to hit 99 and 88 We all could run together, just need a approximate time? If You take a different Route We'll see Ya there.
Curt On Wednesday, May 29, 2019, 3:29:12 PM PDT, Mike Drew <MikeLDrew at aol.com> wrote:
Curt,
Mea Dumbass.?
I forgot that we sent the flyer directly to PCNC members but it wasn?t in last month?s newsletter. It is in this month?s newsletter which I am screwing together now (just got home a few hours ago from a six day Pantera Rally in Ontario and Quebec....)
So, me es stupido.?
I will have the newsletter done in 5-6 more hours and post it to the site, so the link I sent out today will be valid for these purposes tomorrow. Sorry about the confusion.?
And yes, the BBQ is at the Smith?s house off Hwy 88 in Pine Grove, and we will then take 88 to 395 to Reno.
See you There!
Oh, and here?s one pic from the Canada rally...Fred and Nancy Phillips in Mark Charlton?s Longchamp GTS (out of gas...) and Lori in Fred?s 1982 GT5 (which got a much needed carb change later in the day....)
Wheeee!!!
Mike
Sent from my iPad
On May 29, 2019, at 13:44, Curt Hall <cuvee at sbcglobal.net> wrote:
Hey Mike...
I'm going and Peter may go to the Smith's house but not to Reno. Mark and Cindy are leaving on Thursday.Are You going up 88 if so We can meet up some place along 88? I've made contact with Larry Finch so Us three could meet up with the Group. Unless You take a different Route??
Curt
On Wednesday, May 29, 2019, 1:13:33 PM PDT, Mike Drew <MikeLDrew at aol.com> wrote:
Curt,
All you need to do is read the PCNC newsletter (which is free for all to read). ?
https://nam02.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.panteraclubnorcal.org%2Fg---current-pcnc-newsletter&data=02%7C01%7C%7C347b4c77f7db44b29ef008d6e48c7eb4%7C84df9e7fe9f640afb435aaaaaaaaaaaa%7C1%7C0%7C636947689421692737&sdata=5UZIB1u3TD1Hfu1haziwHfMpo0LNH5BtVE0GcUca%2Bhk%3D&reserved=0
We will be enjoying a scenic drive through the twisties and a brunch at the idyllic mountain home of Marcus and Irene Smith. See the flyer in the newsletter with all the info.
Looking forward to seeing everyone there! I?ve heard from several people who haven?t attend a Fun Rally in years who are planning on attending this one. ?If people are on the fence, it?s never too late to sign up. See you there!
Mike?
Sent from my iPad
On May 29, 2019, at 10:22, Curt Hall <cuvee at sbcglobal.net> wrote:
Getting close to the Reno Event...Haven't heard much if any one from Capital Panteras or the PCNC are heading to Reno? If so, what Route are people taking? It would be nice to travel with the group.
If anyone has more info Please let me know.
Thank Curt Hall
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No Problems Mike...
Just thought if Your going to hit 99 and 88 We all could run together,
just need a approximate time? If You take a different Route We'll see
Ya there.
Curt
On Wednesday, May 29, 2019, 3:29:12 PM PDT, Mike Drew
<MikeLDrew at aol.com> wrote:
Curt,
Mea Dumbass.
I forgot that we sent the flyer directly to PCNC members but it wasnat
in last monthas newsletter. It is in this monthas newsletter which I am
screwing together now (just got home a few hours ago from a six day
Pantera Rally in Ontario and Quebec....)
So, me es stupido.
I will have the newsletter done in 5-6 more hours and post it to the
site, so the link I sent out today will be valid for these purposes
tomorrow. Sorry about the confusion.
And yes, the BBQ is at the Smithas house off Hwy 88 in Pine Grove, and
we will then take 88 to 395 to Reno.
See you There!
Oh, and hereas one pic from the Canada rally...Fred and Nancy Phillips
in Mark Charltonas Longchamp GTS (out of gas...) and Lori in Fredas
1982 GT5 (which got a much needed carb change later in the day....)
image1.jpeg
Wheeee!!!
Mike
Sent from my iPad
On May 29, 2019, at 13:44, Curt Hall <[1]cuvee at sbcglobal.net> wrote:
Hey Mike...
I'm going and Peter may go to the Smith's house but not to Reno. Mark
and Cindy are leaving on Thursday.
Are You going up 88 if so We can meet up some place along 88? I've made
contact with Larry Finch so Us three could meet up with the Group.
Unless You take a different Route?
Curt
On Wednesday, May 29, 2019, 1:13:33 PM PDT, Mike Drew
<[2]MikeLDrew at aol.com> wrote:
Curt,
All you need to do is read the PCNC newsletter (which is free for all
to read).
[3]https://nam02.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.panteraclubnorcal.org%2Fg---current-pcnc-newsletter&data=02%7C01%7C%7C347b4c77f7db44b29ef008d6e48c7eb4%7C84df9e7fe9f640afb435aaaaaaaaaaaa%7C1%7C0%7C636947689421692737&sdata=5UZIB1u3TD1Hfu1haziwHfMpo0LNH5BtVE0GcUca%2Bhk%3D&reserved=0
We will be enjoying a scenic drive through the twisties and a brunch at
the idyllic mountain home of Marcus and Irene Smith. See the flyer in
the newsletter with all the info.
Looking forward to seeing everyone there! Iave heard from several
people who havenat attend a Fun Rally in years who are planning on
attending this one. If people are on the fence, itas never too late to
sign up. See you there!
Mike
Sent from my iPad
On May 29, 2019, at 10:22, Curt Hall <[4]cuvee at sbcglobal.net> wrote:
Getting close to the Reno Event...Haven't heard much if any one from
Capital Panteras or the PCNC are heading to Reno? If so, what Route are
people taking? It would be nice to travel with the group.
If anyone has more info Please let me know.
Thank Curt Hall
References
1. mailto:cuvee at sbcglobal.net
2. mailto:MikeLDrew at aol.com
3. https://nam02.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.panteraclubnorcal.org%2Fg---current-pcnc-newsletter&data=02%7C01%7C%7C347b4c77f7db44b29ef008d6e48c7eb4%7C84df9e7fe9f640afb435aaaaaaaaaaaa%7C1%7C0%7C636947689421702748&sdata=hCyaaUl9PfYRNLFoRBIJFBFJtGyr0g3vmSDr28L9Tas%3D&reserved=0
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Gentlemen - going out on a limb here, but what would a stock 351C air
cleaner for my '88 GT5S look like?
Would it be the same as a 71-73 Cleveland, Torino, Mustang, except I
guess painted black from Ford blue?
Trip
Bethesda, Md.
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Today's Topics:
1. Re: Rear Suspension Clevis Mount Needed (Mike & Elizabeth Thomas)
2. Replacement for lid shocks (Wayne Boian)
3. Re: Rear Suspension Clevis Mount Needed (Charles Engles)
4. Re: Rear Suspension Clevis Mount Needed (Steve)
5. Re: Replacement for lid shocks (Jack Donahue)
6. Re: Replacement for lid shocks (Sean Korb)
7. Re: Rear Suspension Clevis Mount Needed (Dave Londry)
8. Re: Rear Suspension Clevis Mount Needed (Mike & Elizabeth Thomas)
9. Re: Replacement for lid shocks (jgmaloney at roadrunner.com)
10. Re: Rear Suspension Clevis Mount Needed (Joseph F. Byrd, Jr.)
11. Ford Fast News Performance Spotlight - 72 Pantera featured
(Garth Rodericks)
12. Re: Rear Suspension Clevis Mount Needed (Mike & Elizabeth Thomas)
13. Re: Rear Suspension Clevis Mount Needed (Steve)
14. Re: Rear Suspension Clevis Mount Needed (larry at ohiotimecorp.com)
15. Non Pantera Content (Steve)
16. Re: Replacement for lid shocks (Wayne Boian)
17. Re: Rear Suspension Clevis Mount Needed (Paul Timko)
18. Re: Rear Suspension Clevis Mount Needed (Pantdino)
19. 73 Internal Rear View Mirror Removal
(djenkins at vanguardtrailer.com)
20. Re: Rear Suspension Clevis Mount Needed (Paul Timko)
21. New Steering Wheel (Steve)
22. Re: New Steering Wheel (Asa Jay Laughton)
23. SPC: Panther Prototype at Lake Cuomo (Mike & Elizabeth Thomas)
24. Tom Tjaarda Scholarship Fund (via Dave & Linda Adler)
(laurieferrari at aol.com)
25. Reno Fun Rally (Curt Hall)
26. Re: Reno Fun Rally (Mike Drew)
27. Re: Reno Fun Rally (Curt Hall)
28. Re: Reno Fun Rally (Julian Kift)
29. Re: Tom Tjaarda Scholarship Fund (via Dave & Linda Adler)
(laurieferrari at aol.com)
30. Re: Reno Fun Rally (Mike Drew)
31. Re: Reno Fun Rally (Curt Hall)
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Message: 1
Date: Thu, 23 May 2019 08:34:49 -0700
From: "Mike & Elizabeth Thomas" <mbefthomas at comcast.net>
To: "'Julian Kift'" <julian_kift at hotmail.com>, "'DeTomaso Mail List'"
<detomaso at server.detomasolist.com>, "'Ken Green'"
<kenn_green at yahoo.com>
Subject: Re: [DeTomaso] Rear Suspension Clevis Mount Needed
Message-ID: <010501d5117d$0f554b90$2dffe2b0$@comcast.net>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"
Thanks all, sourced one with Steve Wilkinson yesterday. It's actually
a
forged piece and has not been remade in a quality manner so NOS is the
only
source. Strange that I would have one with bungled threads - no idea
how
long it's been like that.
Mike Thomas
From: Julian Kift <julian_kift at hotmail.com>
Sent: Wednesday, May 22, 2019 4:03 PM
To: 'DeTomaso Mail List' <detomaso at server.detomasolist.com>; Mike &
Elizabeth Thomas <mbefthomas at comcast.net>; Ken Green
<kenn_green at yahoo.com>
Subject: Re: [DeTomaso] Rear Suspension Clevis Mount Needed
Mike,
Not a costly item, I would contact you favorite vendor and get one
shipped.
Alternatively a good shop should be able to fabricate or weld new
threaded
section onto your existing one.
Julian
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Sent: Wednesday, May 22, 2019 3:45 PM
To: 'DeTomaso Mail List'; Mike & Elizabeth Thomas
Subject: Re: [DeTomaso] Rear Suspension Clevis Mount Needed
There was one on ebay, I think Mike Mayberry. but I don't see it now.
You
might email Mike:
mikedmayberry at hotmail.com <[5]mailto:mikedmayberry at hotmail.com>
Ken
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I had the car aligned today and the tech found that the threads on
the
driver's side forward lower rear suspension clevis bracket that the
A-arm is bolted to and goes through the frame was partially stripped.
Does anyone out there have one they can sell/send me? Prepping for
Reno and thought I was there but one more thing to fix after the
steering rack.
Thanks!
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Thanks all, sourced one with Steve Wilkinson yesterday. It's
actually
a forged piece and has not been remade in a quality manner so NOS is
the only source. Strange that I would have one with bungled threads
-
no idea how long it's been like that.
Mike Thomas
From: Julian Kift <julian_kift at hotmail.com>
Sent: Wednesday, May 22, 2019 4:03 PM
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Subject: Re: [DeTomaso] Rear Suspension Clevis Mount Needed
Mike,
Not a costly item, I would contact you favorite vendor and get one
shipped. Alternatively a good shop should be able to fabricate or
weld
new threaded section onto your existing one.
Julian
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Subject: Re: [DeTomaso] Rear Suspension Clevis Mount Needed
There was one on ebay, I think Mike Mayberry. but I don't see it
now.
You might email Mike:
[3]mikedmayberry at hotmail.com
Ken
On Wednesday, May 22, 2019, 3:36:49 PM PDT, Mike & Elizabeth
Thomas
<[4]mbefthomas at comcast.net> wrote:
I had the car aligned today and the tech found that the threads
on
the
driver's side forward lower rear suspension clevis bracket that
the
A-arm is bolted to and goes through the frame was partially
stripped.
Does anyone out there have one they can sell/send me? Prepping
for
Reno and thought I was there but one more thing to fix after the
steering rack.
Thanks!
Mike Thomas
Pres., Panteras Northwest
206-795-3302
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Date: Thu, 23 May 2019 11:56:40 -0400
From: "Wayne Boian" <wayneboian at windstream.net>
To: <detomaso at server.detomasolist.com>
Subject: [DeTomaso] Replacement for lid shocks
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The Wed May 1 18:41:45 EDT 2019 post on "Need new deck lid" could not
have
been timed better for me.
After retiring, I am taking the car cover off # 5683 and cruise around.
The
car can use some TLC, but in generally good shape.
The stock lid shocks have started to sag and have been researching
getting a
new set.
I found some older threads talking about the StrongArm #4490 shocks and
the
Dodge/Plymouth Hatchback 1978-87. The local parts place said they can
be
ordered but had no information if they are in the 110# pressure range.
Any advise, information on which replacement lid shocks to use or NOT
use
would be helpful.
Thanks
Wayne in ky
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Message: 3
Date: Thu, 23 May 2019 11:27:24 -0500
From: "Charles Engles" <cengles at cox.net>
To: "'Mike & Elizabeth Thomas'" <mbefthomas at comcast.net>, "'Julian
Kift'" <julian_kift at hotmail.com>, "'DeTomaso Mail List'"
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Subject: Re: [DeTomaso] Rear Suspension Clevis Mount Needed
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Dear Mike,
You wrote: " Strange that I would have one with bungled
threads - no idea how long it's been like that."
Ah, indeed. It is one of those quaint peculiarities of
owning
an Italian car. Fortunately, the virtues outweigh the vices--- I
think.
Warmest regards, Chuck Engles
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From: DeTomaso [[19]mailto:detomaso-bounces at server.detomasolist.com] On
Behalf
Of Mike & Elizabeth Thomas
Sent: Thursday, May 23, 2019 10:35 AM
To: 'Julian Kift'; 'DeTomaso Mail List'; 'Ken Green'
Subject: Re: [DeTomaso] Rear Suspension Clevis Mount Needed
Thanks all, sourced one with Steve Wilkinson yesterday. It's actually
a
forged piece and has not been remade in a quality manner so NOS is the
only
source. Strange that I would have one with bungled threads - no idea
how
long it's been like that.
Mike Thomas
From: Julian Kift <julian_kift at hotmail.com>
Sent: Wednesday, May 22, 2019 4:03 PM
To: 'DeTomaso Mail List' <detomaso at server.detomasolist.com>; Mike &
Elizabeth Thomas <mbefthomas at comcast.net>; Ken Green
<kenn_green at yahoo.com>
Subject: Re: [DeTomaso] Rear Suspension Clevis Mount Needed
Mike,
Not a costly item, I would contact you favorite vendor and get one
shipped.
Alternatively a good shop should be able to fabricate or weld new
threaded
section onto your existing one.
Julian
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Sent: Wednesday, May 22, 2019 3:45 PM
To: 'DeTomaso Mail List'; Mike & Elizabeth Thomas
Subject: Re: [DeTomaso] Rear Suspension Clevis Mount Needed
There was one on ebay, I think Mike Mayberry. but I don't see it now.
You
might email Mike:
mikedmayberry at hotmail.com <[22]mailto:mikedmayberry at hotmail.com>
Ken
On Wednesday, May 22, 2019, 3:36:49 PM PDT, Mike & Elizabeth Thomas
<mbefthomas at comcast.net <[23]mailto:mbefthomas at comcast.net> > wrote:
I had the car aligned today and the tech found that the threads on
the
driver's side forward lower rear suspension clevis bracket that the
A-arm is bolted to and goes through the frame was partially stripped.
Does anyone out there have one they can sell/send me? Prepping for
Reno and thought I was there but one more thing to fix after the
steering rack.
Thanks!
Mike Thomas
Pres., Panteras Northwest
206-795-3302
Yellow '74 #6328
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Message: 4
Date: Thu, 23 May 2019 09:53:46 -0700
From: "Steve" <steve at snclocks.com>
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Every time I walk into the garage and see our car the virtues outweigh
the
vices. And, as time goes by, the vices are being eliminated. Yup -
will
finish polishing out the scratch in the passenger window today! The
new
window was curved wrong (beware if you are ordering new window glass)
and
the used one I found was worse than the one I scratched. So, lots of
sanding and polishing - and it looks good!
Love these cars!!!
Stephen
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Sent: Thursday, May 23, 2019 9:27 AM
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Subject: Re: [DeTomaso] Rear Suspension Clevis Mount Needed
Dear Mike,
You wrote: " Strange that I would have one with bungled
threads - no idea how long it's been like that."
Ah, indeed. It is one of those quaint peculiarities of
owning
an Italian car. Fortunately, the virtues outweigh the vices--- I
think.
Warmest regards, Chuck Engles
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Behalf
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Sent: Thursday, May 23, 2019 10:35 AM
To: 'Julian Kift'; 'DeTomaso Mail List'; 'Ken Green'
Subject: Re: [DeTomaso] Rear Suspension Clevis Mount Needed
Thanks all, sourced one with Steve Wilkinson yesterday. It's actually
a
forged piece and has not been remade in a quality manner so NOS is the
only
source. Strange that I would have one with bungled threads - no idea
how
long it's been like that.
Mike Thomas
From: Julian Kift <julian_kift at hotmail.com>
Sent: Wednesday, May 22, 2019 4:03 PM
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Subject: Re: [DeTomaso] Rear Suspension Clevis Mount Needed
Mike,
Not a costly item, I would contact you favorite vendor and get one
shipped.
Alternatively a good shop should be able to fabricate or weld new
threaded
section onto your existing one.
Julian
_____
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Sent: Wednesday, May 22, 2019 3:45 PM
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Subject: Re: [DeTomaso] Rear Suspension Clevis Mount Needed
There was one on ebay, I think Mike Mayberry. but I don't see it now.
You
might email Mike:
mikedmayberry at hotmail.com <[32]mailto:mikedmayberry at hotmail.com>
Ken
On Wednesday, May 22, 2019, 3:36:49 PM PDT, Mike & Elizabeth Thomas
<mbefthomas at comcast.net <[33]mailto:mbefthomas at comcast.net> > wrote:
I had the car aligned today and the tech found that the threads on
the
driver's side forward lower rear suspension clevis bracket that the
A-arm is bolted to and goes through the frame was partially stripped.
Does anyone out there have one they can sell/send me? Prepping for
Reno and thought I was there but one more thing to fix after the
steering rack.
Thanks!
Mike Thomas
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206-795-3302
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Date: Thu, 23 May 2019 12:14:50 -0700
From: Jack Donahue <demongusta at gmail.com>
To: Wayne Boian <wayneboian at windstream.net>
Cc: "detomaso at server.detomasolist.com"
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Subject: Re: [DeTomaso] Replacement for lid shocks
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Hey Wayne:
I?m the guy who wrote about the new deck lid. I highly suggest Larry
Stocks shocks - all prepped and ready to go. I had mistakingly bought
the ones for a "winged" deck lid - WAY TOO STRONG - court is still out
whether I need a new lid or not - general consensus is that it can be
"worked out".
jack
> On May 23, 2019, at 8:56 AM, Wayne Boian <wayneboian at windstream.net>
wrote:
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> The Wed May 1 18:41:45 EDT 2019 post on "Need new deck lid" could
not have been timed better for me.
> After retiring, I am taking the car cover off # 5683 and cruise
around. The car can use some TLC, but in generally good shape.
> The stock lid shocks have started to sag and have been researching
getting a new set.
> I found some older threads talking about the StrongArm #4490 shocks
and the Dodge/Plymouth Hatchback 1978-87. The local parts place said
they can be ordered but had no information if they are in the 110#
pressure range.
>
> Any advise, information on which replacement lid shocks to use or NOT
use would be helpful.
>
> Thanks
> Wayne in ky
>
>
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Message: 6
Date: Thu, 23 May 2019 17:02:10 -0400
From: Sean Korb <spkorb at gmail.com>
To: Wayne Boian <wayneboian at windstream.net>
Cc: detomaso at server.detomasolist.com
Subject: Re: [DeTomaso] Replacement for lid shocks
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The Dodge Omni/Plymouth Horizon shocks PN # SG314003 work well for me
with a stock lid. I think the Pantera registry has more part numbers.
These may not be stocked since the car is not ummmm very popular
anymore.
I concur, Larry Stock will have what you need for your car and direct
fit. I had to rearrange a few washers to get the Dodge ones to fit
right.
sean
On 5/23/19, Wayne Boian <wayneboian at windstream.net> wrote:
> The Wed May 1 18:41:45 EDT 2019 post on "Need new deck lid" could
not have
>
> been timed better for me.
> After retiring, I am taking the car cover off # 5683 and cruise
around. The
>
> car can use some TLC, but in generally good shape.
> The stock lid shocks have started to sag and have been researching
getting a
>
> new set.
> I found some older threads talking about the StrongArm #4490 shocks
and the
>
> Dodge/Plymouth Hatchback 1978-87. The local parts place said they
can be
> ordered but had no information if they are in the 110# pressure
range.
>
> Any advise, information on which replacement lid shocks to use or NOT
use
> would be helpful.
>
> Thanks
> Wayne in ky
>
>
>
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Message: 7
Date: Thu, 23 May 2019 14:40:20 -0700
From: Dave Londry <davel at trguys.com>
To: detomaso at server.detomasolist.com
Subject: Re: [DeTomaso] Rear Suspension Clevis Mount Needed
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Man you destroyed my endurance record for a window reconditioning,
Stephen!
dave
On 2019-05-23 9:53 a.m., Steve wrote:
> Every time I walk into the garage and see our car the virtues
outweigh the
> vices. And, as time goes by, the vices are being eliminated. Yup -
will
> finish polishing out the scratch in the passenger window today! The
new
> window was curved wrong (beware if you are ordering new window glass)
and
> the used one I found was worse than the one I scratched. So, lots of
> sanding and polishing - and it looks good!
>
> Love these cars!!!
>
> Stephen
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: DeTomaso [[42]mailto:detomaso-bounces at server.detomasolist.com]
On Behalf
> Of Charles Engles
> Sent: Thursday, May 23, 2019 9:27 AM
> To: 'Mike & Elizabeth Thomas' <mbefthomas at comcast.net>; 'Julian Kift'
> <julian_kift at hotmail.com>; 'DeTomaso Mail List'
> <detomaso at server.detomasolist.com>; 'Ken Green'
<kenn_green at yahoo.com>
> Subject: Re: [DeTomaso] Rear Suspension Clevis Mount Needed
>
> Dear Mike,
>
> You wrote: " Strange that I would have one with
bungled
> threads - no idea how long it's been like that."
>
> Ah, indeed. It is one of those quaint peculiarities
of owning
> an Italian car. Fortunately, the virtues outweigh the vices--- I
think.
>
> Warmest regards, Chuck Engles
>
>
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: DeTomaso [[43]mailto:detomaso-bounces at server.detomasolist.com]
On Behalf
> Of Mike & Elizabeth Thomas
> Sent: Thursday, May 23, 2019 10:35 AM
> To: 'Julian Kift'; 'DeTomaso Mail List'; 'Ken Green'
> Subject: Re: [DeTomaso] Rear Suspension Clevis Mount Needed
>
> Thanks all, sourced one with Steve Wilkinson yesterday. It's
actually a
> forged piece and has not been remade in a quality manner so NOS is
the only
> source. Strange that I would have one with bungled threads - no idea
how
> long it's been like that.
>
>
>
> Mike Thomas
>
>
>
> From: Julian Kift <julian_kift at hotmail.com>
> Sent: Wednesday, May 22, 2019 4:03 PM
> To: 'DeTomaso Mail List' <detomaso at server.detomasolist.com>; Mike &
> Elizabeth Thomas <mbefthomas at comcast.net>; Ken Green
<kenn_green at yahoo.com>
> Subject: Re: [DeTomaso] Rear Suspension Clevis Mount Needed
>
>
>
> Mike,
>
>
>
> Not a costly item, I would contact you favorite vendor and get one
shipped.
> Alternatively a good shop should be able to fabricate or weld new
threaded
> section onto your existing one.
>
>
>
> Julian
>
>
>
> _____
>
> From: DeTomaso <detomaso-bounces at server.detomasolist.com
> <[44]mailto:detomaso-bounces at server.detomasolist.com> > on behalf of
Ken Green
> via DeTomaso <detomaso at server.detomasolist.com
> <[45]mailto:detomaso at server.detomasolist.com> >
> Sent: Wednesday, May 22, 2019 3:45 PM
> To: 'DeTomaso Mail List'; Mike & Elizabeth Thomas
> Subject: Re: [DeTomaso] Rear Suspension Clevis Mount Needed
>
>
>
> There was one on ebay, I think Mike Mayberry. but I don't see it
now. You
> might email Mike:
> mikedmayberry at hotmail.com <[46]mailto:mikedmayberry at hotmail.com>
>
> Ken
>
> On Wednesday, May 22, 2019, 3:36:49 PM PDT, Mike & Elizabeth
Thomas
> <mbefthomas at comcast.net <[47]mailto:mbefthomas at comcast.net> > wrote:
>
> I had the car aligned today and the tech found that the threads
on the
> driver's side forward lower rear suspension clevis bracket that
the
> A-arm is bolted to and goes through the frame was partially
stripped.
> Does anyone out there have one they can sell/send me? Prepping
for
> Reno and thought I was there but one more thing to fix after the
> steering rack.
>
>
> Thanks!
>
> Mike Thomas
>
> Pres., Panteras Northwest
>
> 206-795-3302
>
> Yellow '74 #6328
>
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Message: 8
Date: Thu, 23 May 2019 16:45:46 -0700
From: "Mike & Elizabeth Thomas" <mbefthomas at comcast.net>
To: "'Charles Engles'" <cengles at cox.net>, "'Julian Kift'"
<julian_kift at hotmail.com>, "'DeTomaso Mail List'"
<detomaso at server.detomasolist.com>, "'Ken Green'"
<kenn_green at yahoo.com>
Subject: Re: [DeTomaso] Rear Suspension Clevis Mount Needed
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Yes, and thankfully it was virtuous enough to stay attached and not
ruin my
day . . .
-----Original Message-----
From: Charles Engles <cengles at cox.net>
Sent: Thursday, May 23, 2019 9:27 AM
To: 'Mike & Elizabeth Thomas' <mbefthomas at comcast.net>; 'Julian Kift'
<julian_kift at hotmail.com>; 'DeTomaso Mail List'
<detomaso at server.detomasolist.com>; 'Ken Green' <kenn_green at yahoo.com>
Subject: RE: [DeTomaso] Rear Suspension Clevis Mount Needed
Dear Mike,
You wrote: " Strange that I would have one with bungled
threads - no idea how long it's been like that."
Ah, indeed. It is one of those quaint peculiarities of
owning
an Italian car. Fortunately, the virtues outweigh the vices--- I
think.
Warmest regards, Chuck Engles
-----Original Message-----
From: DeTomaso [[54]mailto:detomaso-bounces at server.detomasolist.com] On
Behalf
Of Mike & Elizabeth Thomas
Sent: Thursday, May 23, 2019 10:35 AM
To: 'Julian Kift'; 'DeTomaso Mail List'; 'Ken Green'
Subject: Re: [DeTomaso] Rear Suspension Clevis Mount Needed
Thanks all, sourced one with Steve Wilkinson yesterday. It's actually
a
forged piece and has not been remade in a quality manner so NOS is the
only
source. Strange that I would have one with bungled threads - no idea
how
long it's been like that.
Mike Thomas
From: Julian Kift <julian_kift at hotmail.com>
Sent: Wednesday, May 22, 2019 4:03 PM
To: 'DeTomaso Mail List' <detomaso at server.detomasolist.com>; Mike &
Elizabeth Thomas <mbefthomas at comcast.net>; Ken Green
<kenn_green at yahoo.com>
Subject: Re: [DeTomaso] Rear Suspension Clevis Mount Needed
Mike,
Not a costly item, I would contact you favorite vendor and get one
shipped.
Alternatively a good shop should be able to fabricate or weld new
threaded
section onto your existing one.
Julian
_____
From: DeTomaso <detomaso-bounces at server.detomasolist.com
<[55]mailto:detomaso-bounces at server.detomasolist.com> > on behalf of
Ken Green
via DeTomaso <detomaso at server.detomasolist.com
<[56]mailto:detomaso at server.detomasolist.com> >
Sent: Wednesday, May 22, 2019 3:45 PM
To: 'DeTomaso Mail List'; Mike & Elizabeth Thomas
Subject: Re: [DeTomaso] Rear Suspension Clevis Mount Needed
There was one on ebay, I think Mike Mayberry. but I don't see it now.
You
might email Mike:
mikedmayberry at hotmail.com <[57]mailto:mikedmayberry at hotmail.com>
Ken
On Wednesday, May 22, 2019, 3:36:49 PM PDT, Mike & Elizabeth Thomas
<mbefthomas at comcast.net <[58]mailto:mbefthomas at comcast.net> > wrote:
I had the car aligned today and the tech found that the threads on
the
driver's side forward lower rear suspension clevis bracket that the
A-arm is bolted to and goes through the frame was partially stripped.
Does anyone out there have one they can sell/send me? Prepping for
Reno and thought I was there but one more thing to fix after the
steering rack.
Thanks!
Mike Thomas
Pres., Panteras Northwest
206-795-3302
Yellow '74 #6328
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Message: 9
Date: Fri, 24 May 2019 02:11:16 +0000
From: jgmaloney at roadrunner.com
To: "'Wayne Boian'" <wayneboian at windstream.net>
Cc: "'detomaso at server.detomasolist.com'"
<detomaso at server.detomasolist.com>
Subject: Re: [DeTomaso] Replacement for lid shocks
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Wayne,
I did a study of rear deck lid struts in 2015 that can be found at:
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The Sacks struts for the Dodge/Plymouth Hatchback 1978-87 are low cost
but deliver too much force and can damage the deck lid and every thing
connected to each end of the strut.
My study concludes that the struts from Pantera Parts Connection
(Larry Stock) and PI Motorsports (Jerry Sacket) are safe and function
properly. The PPC struts are based on gas pressure technology. The
struts from PIM are based on compression spring technology.
Regards,
John MaloneyOC Panteras Secretary__
-----------------------------------------From: "Wayne Boian"
To: detomaso at server.detomasolist.com
Cc:
Sent: Thursday May 23 2019 8:56:40AM
Subject: [DeTomaso] Replacement for lid shocks
The Wed May 1 18:41:45 EDT 2019 post on "Need new deck lid" could not
have
been timed better for me.
After retiring, I am taking the car cover off # 5683 and cruise
around. The
car can use some TLC, but in generally good shape.
The stock lid shocks have started to sag and have been researching
getting a
new set.
I found some older threads talking about the StrongArm #4490 shocks
and the
Dodge/Plymouth Hatchback 1978-87. The local parts place said they can
be
ordered but had no information if they are in the 110# pressure
range.
Any advise, information on which replacement lid shocks to use or NOT
use
would be helpful.
Thanks
Wayne in ky
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Wayne,
I did a study of rear deck lid struts in 2015 that can be found at:
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c%2BW%2BaoZDYaAs%3D&reserved=0
The Sacks struts for the Dodge/Plymouth Hatchback 1978-87 are low
cost
but deliver too much force and can damage the deck lid and every
thing
connected to each end of the strut.
My study concludes that the struts from Pantera Parts Connection
(Larry
Stock) and PI Motorsports (Jerry Sacket) are safe and function
properly. The PPC struts are based on gas pressure technology. The
struts from PIM are based on compression spring technology.
Regards,
John Maloney
OC Panteras Secretary
[]^[DEL: :DEL]
-----------------------------------------
From: "Wayne Boian"
To: detomaso at server.detomasolist.com
Cc:
Sent: Thursday May 23 2019 8:56:40AM
Subject: [DeTomaso] Replacement for lid shocks
The Wed May 1 18:41:45 EDT 2019 post on "Need new deck lid" could
not
have
been timed better for me.
After retiring, I am taking the car cover off # 5683 and cruise
around.
The
car can use some TLC, but in generally good shape.
The stock lid shocks have started to sag and have been researching
getting a
new set.
I found some older threads talking about the StrongArm #4490 shocks
and
the
Dodge/Plymouth Hatchback 1978-87. The local parts place said they
can
be
ordered but had no information if they are in the 110# pressure
range.
Any advise, information on which replacement lid shocks to use or
NOT
use
would be helpful.
Thanks
Wayne in ky
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Date: Thu, 23 May 2019 22:11:48 -0400
From: "Joseph F. Byrd, Jr." <byrdjf at embarqmail.com>
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Subject: Re: [DeTomaso] Rear Suspension Clevis Mount Needed
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Could you share photos of the bungled threads.
(My curiosity and entrenched need to have a root cause analysis for a
mechanical failure)
Joe
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Behalf
Of Mike & Elizabeth Thomas
Sent: Thursday, May 23, 2019 19:46 PM
Subject: Re: [DeTomaso] Rear Suspension Clevis Mount Needed
Yes, and thankfully it was virtuous enough to stay attached and not
ruin my
day . . .
-------
Thanks all, sourced one with Steve Wilkinson yesterday. It's actually
a
forged piece and has not been remade in a quality manner so NOS is the
only
source. Strange that I would have one with bungled threads - no idea
how
long it's been like that.
Mike Thomas
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Date: Fri, 24 May 2019 14:47:43 +0000 (UTC)
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Date: Fri, 24 May 2019 07:55:57 -0700
From: "Mike & Elizabeth Thomas" <mbefthomas at comcast.net>
To: "'Joseph F. Byrd, Jr.'" <byrdjf at embarqmail.com>,
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Sure Joe. When the replacement arrives in the next few days I'll have
the
old one off for closer inspection. There is also an interesting washer
that
was starting to deform. Looks like somebody may have torqued it too
hard
during a previous alignment - lucky they didn't crush the frame rail.
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Joseph F. Byrd, Jr.
Sent: Thursday, May 23, 2019 7:12 PM
To: detomaso at server.detomasolist.com
Subject: Re: [DeTomaso] Rear Suspension Clevis Mount Needed
Could you share photos of the bungled threads.
(My curiosity and entrenched need to have a root cause analysis for a
mechanical failure)
Joe
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Sent: Thursday, May 23, 2019 19:46 PM
Subject: Re: [DeTomaso] Rear Suspension Clevis Mount Needed
Yes, and thankfully it was virtuous enough to stay attached and not
ruin my
day . . .
-------
Thanks all, sourced one with Steve Wilkinson yesterday. It's actually
a
forged piece and has not been remade in a quality manner so NOS is the
only
source. Strange that I would have one with bungled threads - no idea
how
long it's been like that.
Mike Thomas
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Message: 13
Date: Fri, 24 May 2019 08:01:23 -0700
From: "Steve" <steve at snclocks.com>
To: "'Mike & Elizabeth Thomas'" <mbefthomas at comcast.net>, "'Joseph F.
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All good reasons to do your own alignment work.
Stephen
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Sure Joe. When the replacement arrives in the next few days I'll have
the
old one off for closer inspection. There is also an interesting washer
that
was starting to deform. Looks like somebody may have torqued it too
hard
during a previous alignment - lucky they didn't crush the frame rail.
-----Original Message-----
From: DeTomaso <detomaso-bounces at server.detomasolist.com> On Behalf Of
Joseph F. Byrd, Jr.
Sent: Thursday, May 23, 2019 7:12 PM
To: detomaso at server.detomasolist.com
Subject: Re: [DeTomaso] Rear Suspension Clevis Mount Needed
Could you share photos of the bungled threads.
(My curiosity and entrenched need to have a root cause analysis for a
mechanical failure)
Joe
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From: DeTomaso [[72]mailto:detomaso-bounces at server.detomasolist.com] On
Behalf
Of Mike & Elizabeth Thomas
Sent: Thursday, May 23, 2019 19:46 PM
Subject: Re: [DeTomaso] Rear Suspension Clevis Mount Needed
Yes, and thankfully it was virtuous enough to stay attached and not
ruin my
day . . .
-------
Thanks all, sourced one with Steve Wilkinson yesterday. It's actually
a
forged piece and has not been remade in a quality manner so NOS is the
only
source. Strange that I would have one with bungled threads - no idea
how
long it's been like that.
Mike Thomas
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Message: 14
Date: Fri, 24 May 2019 12:54:38 -0400
From: <larry at ohiotimecorp.com>
To: "'Mike & Elizabeth Thomas'" <mbefthomas at comcast.net>, "'Joseph F.
Byrd, Jr.'" <byrdjf at embarqmail.com>,
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<< lucky they didn't crush the frame rail>>
Did we not talk about this with Charlie's car in Spain a number of
years
ago? How some cars having a support tube inside the frame?
Larry (could be dreaming) - Cleveland
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Sent: May 24, 2019 10:56 AM
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Subject: Re: [DeTomaso] Rear Suspension Clevis Mount Needed
Sure Joe. When the replacement arrives in the next few days I'll have
the
old one off for closer inspection. There is also an interesting washer
that
was starting to deform. Looks like somebody may have torqued it too
hard
during a previous alignment - lucky they didn't crush the frame rail.
-----Original Message-----
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Joseph F. Byrd, Jr.
Sent: Thursday, May 23, 2019 7:12 PM
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Could you share photos of the bungled threads.
(My curiosity and entrenched need to have a root cause analysis for a
mechanical failure)
Joe
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Behalf
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Sent: Thursday, May 23, 2019 19:46 PM
Subject: Re: [DeTomaso] Rear Suspension Clevis Mount Needed
Yes, and thankfully it was virtuous enough to stay attached and not
ruin my
day . . .
-------
Thanks all, sourced one with Steve Wilkinson yesterday. It's actually
a
forged piece and has not been remade in a quality manner so NOS is the
only
source. Strange that I would have one with bungled threads - no idea
how
long it's been like that.
Mike Thomas
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Date: Fri, 24 May 2019 11:58:21 -0700
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Knowing how much many of you like the new Mustangs, I thought this
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Message: 16
Date: Fri, 24 May 2019 16:14:18 -0400
From: "Wayne Boian" <wayneboian at windstream.net>
To: <jgmaloney at roadrunner.com>
Cc: detomaso at server.detomasolist.com
Subject: Re: [DeTomaso] Replacement for lid shocks
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Thanks to all for your help and support. John, tyour study on the rear
deck lids was wonderful.
I just picked up the Cat from having a new electronic ignition and
Holly Carb installed.
With the car back home, I can pull the old shocks off and measure the
thru holes for 10 mm or 6 mm.
Larry get the 18126P PPC Shock rear deck lid support ready. I have a
standard non wing lid.
One again thanks to all for your help and support.
Wayne in KY.
From: jgmaloney at roadrunner.com
Sent: Thursday, May 23, 2019 10:11 PM
To: 'Wayne Boian'
Cc: [81]mailto:detomaso at server.detomasolist.com
Subject: RE: [DeTomaso] Replacement for lid shocks
Wayne,
I did a study of rear deck lid struts in 2015 that can be found at:
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The Sacks struts for the Dodge/Plymouth Hatchback 1978-87 are low cost
but deliver too much force and can damage the deck lid and every thing
connected to each end of the strut.
My study concludes that the struts from Pantera Parts Connection (Larry
Stock) and PI Motorsports (Jerry Sacket) are safe and function
properly. The PPC struts are based on gas pressure technology. The
struts from PIM are based on compression spring technology.
Regards,
John Maloney
OC Panteras Secretary
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From: "Wayne Boian"
To: detomaso at server.detomasolist.com
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Sent: Thursday May 23 2019 8:56:40AM
Subject: [DeTomaso] Replacement for lid shocks
The Wed May 1 18:41:45 EDT 2019 post on "Need new deck lid" could not
have
been timed better for me.
After retiring, I am taking the car cover off # 5683 and cruise around.
The
car can use some TLC, but in generally good shape.
The stock lid shocks have started to sag and have been researching
getting a
new set.
I found some older threads talking about the StrongArm #4490 shocks and
the
Dodge/Plymouth Hatchback 1978-87. The local parts place said they can
be
ordered but had no information if they are in the 110# pressure range.
Any advise, information on which replacement lid shocks to use or NOT
use
would be helpful.
Thanks
Wayne in ky
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Thanks to all for your help and support. John, tyour study on the
rear
deck lids was wonderful.
I just picked up the Cat from having a new electronic ignition and
Holly Carb installed.
With the car back home, I can pull the old shocks off and measure
the
thru holes for 10 mm or 6 mm.
Larry get the 18126P PPC Shock rear deck lid support ready. I have a
standard non wing lid.
One again thanks to all for your help and support.
Wayne in KY.
From: [1]jgmaloney at roadrunner.com
Sent: Thursday, May 23, 2019 10:11 PM
To: [2]'Wayne Boian'
Cc: [3]mailto:detomaso at server.detomasolist.com
Subject: RE: [DeTomaso] Replacement for lid shocks
Wayne,
I did a study of rear deck lid struts in 2015 that can be found at:
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panteras.com%2Ftech_zone%2FRearDeckStrutStudy.html&data=02%7C01%7C%
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The Sacks struts for the Dodge/Plymouth Hatchback 1978-87 are low
cost
but deliver too much force and can damage the deck lid and every
thing
connected to each end of the strut.
My study concludes that the struts from Pantera Parts Connection
(Larry
Stock) and PI Motorsports (Jerry Sacket) are safe and function
properly. The PPC struts are based on gas pressure technology. The
struts from PIM are based on compression spring technology.
Regards,
John Maloney
OC Panteras Secretary
[]^[DEL: :DEL]
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From: "Wayne Boian"
To: detomaso at server.detomasolist.com
Cc:
Sent: Thursday May 23 2019 8:56:40AM
Subject: [DeTomaso] Replacement for lid shocks
The Wed May 1 18:41:45 EDT 2019 post on "Need new deck lid" could
not
have
been timed better for me.
After retiring, I am taking the car cover off # 5683 and cruise
around.
The
car can use some TLC, but in generally good shape.
The stock lid shocks have started to sag and have been researching
getting a
new set.
I found some older threads talking about the StrongArm #4490 shocks
and
the
Dodge/Plymouth Hatchback 1978-87. The local parts place said they
can
be
ordered but had no information if they are in the 110# pressure
range.
Any advise, information on which replacement lid shocks to use or
NOT
use
would be helpful.
Thanks
Wayne in ky
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Date: Fri, 24 May 2019 17:50:13 -0500
From: Paul Timko <thedrol at pobox.com>
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Subject: Re: [DeTomaso] Rear Suspension Clevis Mount Needed
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Yup it comes up every 5 years or so.
Paul
#9270
On Fri, May 24, 2019 at 11:55 AM Larry - Cleveland via DeTomaso <
detomaso at server.detomasolist.com> wrote:
> << lucky they didn't crush the frame rail>>
>
> Did we not talk about this with Charlie's car in Spain a number of
years
> ago? How some cars having a support tube inside the frame?
>
>
> Larry (could be dreaming) - Cleveland
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: DeTomaso <detomaso-bounces at server.detomasolist.com> On Behalf
Of
> Mike
> & Elizabeth Thomas
> Sent: May 24, 2019 10:56 AM
> To: 'Joseph F. Byrd, Jr.' <byrdjf at embarqmail.com>;
> detomaso at server.detomasolist.com
> Subject: Re: [DeTomaso] Rear Suspension Clevis Mount Needed
>
> Sure Joe. When the replacement arrives in the next few days I'll
have the
> old one off for closer inspection. There is also an interesting
washer
> that
> was starting to deform. Looks like somebody may have torqued it too
hard
> during a previous alignment - lucky they didn't crush the frame rail.
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: DeTomaso <detomaso-bounces at server.detomasolist.com> On Behalf
Of
> Joseph F. Byrd, Jr.
> Sent: Thursday, May 23, 2019 7:12 PM
> To: detomaso at server.detomasolist.com
> Subject: Re: [DeTomaso] Rear Suspension Clevis Mount Needed
>
> Could you share photos of the bungled threads.
> (My curiosity and entrenched need to have a root cause analysis for a
> mechanical failure)
>
> Joe
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: DeTomaso [[89]mailto:detomaso-bounces at server.detomasolist.com]
On Behalf
> Of Mike & Elizabeth Thomas
> Sent: Thursday, May 23, 2019 19:46 PM
> Subject: Re: [DeTomaso] Rear Suspension Clevis Mount Needed
>
> Yes, and thankfully it was virtuous enough to stay attached and not
ruin my
> day . . .
> -------
> Thanks all, sourced one with Steve Wilkinson yesterday. It's
actually a
> forged piece and has not been remade in a quality manner so NOS is
the only
> source. Strange that I would have one with bungled threads - no idea
how
> long it's been like that.
>
>
> Mike Thomas
>
>
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Yup it comes up every 5 years or so.A
PaulA
#9270
On Fri, May 24, 2019 at 11:55 AM Larry - Cleveland via DeTomaso
<[1]detomaso at server.detomasolist.com> wrote:
<< lucky they didn't crush the frame rail>>
Did we not talk about this with Charlie's car in Spain a number of
years
ago? How some cars having a support tube inside the frame?
Larry (could be dreaming) - Cleveland
-----Original Message-----
From: DeTomaso <[2]detomaso-bounces at server.detomasolist.com> On
Behalf Of Mike
& Elizabeth Thomas
Sent: May 24, 2019 10:56 AM
To: 'Joseph F. Byrd, Jr.' <[3]byrdjf at embarqmail.com>;
[4]detomaso at server.detomasolist.com
Subject: Re: [DeTomaso] Rear Suspension Clevis Mount Needed
Sure Joe.A When the replacement arrives in the next few days I'll
have the
old one off for closer inspection.A There is also an interesting
washer that
was starting to deform.A Looks like somebody may have torqued it
too hard
during a previous alignment - lucky they didn't crush the frame
rail.
-----Original Message-----
From: DeTomaso <[5]detomaso-bounces at server.detomasolist.com> On
Behalf Of
Joseph F. Byrd, Jr.
Sent: Thursday, May 23, 2019 7:12 PM
To: [6]detomaso at server.detomasolist.com
Subject: Re: [DeTomaso] Rear Suspension Clevis Mount Needed
Could you share photos of the bungled threads.A A
(My curiosity and entrenched need to have a root cause analysis
for
a
mechanical failure)
Joe
-----Original Message-----
From: DeTomaso
[[93]mailto:[7]detomaso-bounces at server.detomasolist.com]
On Behalf
Of Mike & Elizabeth Thomas
Sent: Thursday, May 23, 2019 19:46 PM
Subject: Re: [DeTomaso] Rear Suspension Clevis Mount Needed
Yes, and thankfully it was virtuous enough to stay attached and
not
ruin my
day . . .
-------
Thanks all, sourced one with Steve Wilkinson yesterday.A It's
actually a
forged piece and has not been remade in a quality manner so NOS is
the only
source.A Strange that I would have one with bungled threads - no
idea how
long it's been like that.
Mike Thomas
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Message: 18
Date: Fri, 24 May 2019 23:02:39 +0000 (UTC)
From: Pantdino <pantdino at aol.com>
To: detomaso at server.detomasolist.com
Subject: Re: [DeTomaso] Rear Suspension Clevis Mount Needed
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IIRC the conclusion was that in the post-Ford cars DeT couldn?t be
bothered to put a spacer tube inside the frame rail to prevent the rail
from being crushed when the bolt was tightened. ?Not a problem with the
Ford era cars. ??
Jim
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On?Friday, May 24, 2019,?Paul Timko?<thedrol at pobox.com>?wrote:
? Yup it comes up every 5 years or so.A
? PaulA
? #9270
? On Fri, May 24, 2019 at 11:55 AM Larry - Cleveland via DeTomaso
? <[1]detomaso at server.detomasolist.com> wrote:
? ? << lucky they didn't crush the frame rail>>
? ? Did we not talk about this with Charlie's car in Spain a number of
? ? years
? ? ago? How some cars having a support tube inside the frame?
? ? Larry (could be dreaming) - Cleveland
? ? -----Original Message-----
? ? From: DeTomaso <[2]detomaso-bounces at server.detomasolist.com> On
? ? Behalf Of Mike
? ? & Elizabeth Thomas
? ? Sent: May 24, 2019 10:56 AM
? ? To: 'Joseph F. Byrd, Jr.' <[3]byrdjf at embarqmail.com>;
? ? [4]detomaso at server.detomasolist.com
? ? Subject: Re: [DeTomaso] Rear Suspension Clevis Mount Needed
? ? Sure Joe.A? When the replacement arrives in the next few days I'll
? ? have the
? ? old one off for closer inspection.A? There is also an interesting
? ? washer that
? ? was starting to deform.A? Looks like somebody may have torqued it
? ? too hard
? ? during a previous alignment - lucky they didn't crush the frame
? ? rail.
? ? -----Original Message-----
? ? From: DeTomaso <[5]detomaso-bounces at server.detomasolist.com> On
? ? Behalf Of
? ? Joseph F. Byrd, Jr.
? ? Sent: Thursday, May 23, 2019 7:12 PM
? ? To: [6]detomaso at server.detomasolist.com
? ? Subject: Re: [DeTomaso] Rear Suspension Clevis Mount Needed
? ? Could you share photos of the bungled threads.A? A
? ? (My curiosity and entrenched need to have a root cause analysis for
? ? a
? ? mechanical failure)
? ? Joe
? ? -----Original Message-----
? ? From: DeTomaso
[[107]mailto:[7]detomaso-bounces at server.detomasolist.com]
? ? On Behalf
? ? Of Mike & Elizabeth Thomas
? ? Sent: Thursday, May 23, 2019 19:46 PM
? ? Subject: Re: [DeTomaso] Rear Suspension Clevis Mount Needed
? ? Yes, and thankfully it was virtuous enough to stay attached and not
? ? ruin my
? ? day . . .
? ? -------
? ? Thanks all, sourced one with Steve Wilkinson yesterday.A? It's
? ? actually a
? ? forged piece and has not been remade in a quality manner so NOS is
? ? the only
? ? source.A? Strange that I would have one with bungled threads - no
? ? idea how
? ? long it's been like that.
? ? Mike Thomas
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IIRC the conclusion was that in the post-Ford cars DeT couldnat be
bothered to put a spacer tube inside the frame rail to prevent the
rail
from being crushed when the bolt was tightened. Not a problem with
the
Ford era cars.
Jim
Sent from AOL Mobile Mail
On Friday, May 24, 2019, Paul Timko <thedrol at pobox.com> wrote:
Yup it comes up every 5 years or so.A
PaulA
#9270
On Fri, May 24, 2019 at 11:55 AM Larry - Cleveland via DeTomaso
<[1][1]detomaso at server.detomasolist.com> wrote:
<< lucky they didn't crush the frame rail>>
Did we not talk about this with Charlie's car in Spain a number
of
years
ago? How some cars having a support tube inside the frame?
Larry (could be dreaming) - Cleveland
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On
Behalf Of Mike
& Elizabeth Thomas
Sent: May 24, 2019 10:56 AM
To: 'Joseph F. Byrd, Jr.' <[3][3]byrdjf at embarqmail.com>;
[4][4]detomaso at server.detomasolist.com
Subject: Re: [DeTomaso] Rear Suspension Clevis Mount Needed
Sure Joe.A When the replacement arrives in the next few days
I'll
have the
old one off for closer inspection.A There is also an
interesting
washer that
was starting to deform.A Looks like somebody may have torqued
it
too hard
during a previous alignment - lucky they didn't crush the frame
rail.
-----Original Message-----
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On
Behalf Of
Joseph F. Byrd, Jr.
Sent: Thursday, May 23, 2019 7:12 PM
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Subject: Re: [DeTomaso] Rear Suspension Clevis Mount Needed
Could you share photos of the bungled threads.A A
(My curiosity and entrenched need to have a root cause analysis
for
a
mechanical failure)
Joe
-----Original Message-----
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[[122]mailto:[7][7]detomaso-bounces at server.detomasolist.com]
On Behalf
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Sent: Thursday, May 23, 2019 19:46 PM
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Yes, and thankfully it was virtuous enough to stay attached and
not
ruin my
day . . .
-------
Thanks all, sourced one with Steve Wilkinson yesterday.A It's
actually a
forged piece and has not been remade in a quality manner so NOS
is
the only
source.A Strange that I would have one with bungled threads -
no
idea how
long it's been like that.
Mike Thomas
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Message: 19
Date: Sat, 25 May 2019 11:06:56 -0500
From: "djenkins at vanguardtrailer.com" <djenkins at vanguardtrailer.com>
To: "detomaso at server.detomasolist.com"
<detomaso at server.detomasolist.com>
Subject: [DeTomaso] 73 Internal Rear View Mirror Removal
Message-ID: <bjedufkk4m3993kdh5m6sfem.1558800082173 at email.lge.com>
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Pull down easily but firmly on the bar between the roof bracket and
mirror. Comes right off.
Sent from my Verizon LG Smartphone
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Pull down easily but firmly on the bar between the roof bracket and
mirror. Comes right off.
Sent from my Verizon LG Smartphone
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Message: 20
Date: Sat, 25 May 2019 22:15:13 -0500
From: Paul Timko <thedrol at pobox.com>
To: Email List Address For Posting <detomaso at server.detomasolist.com>
Subject: Re: [DeTomaso] Rear Suspension Clevis Mount Needed
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My late model car had a tube in the frame rails. I believe the earlier
cars
have an additional steel support in the frame rail.
Paul
#9270
On Fri, May 24, 2019 at 6:02 PM Pantdino via DeTomaso <
detomaso at server.detomasolist.com> wrote:
> IIRC the conclusion was that in the post-Ford cars DeT couldnat be
> bothered to put a spacer tube inside the frame rail to prevent the
rail
> from being crushed when the bolt was tightened. Not a problem
with the
> Ford era cars.
>
> Jim
> Sent from AOL Mobile Mail
> On Friday, May 24, 2019, Paul Timko <thedrol at pobox.com> wrote:
>
> Yup it comes up every 5 years or so.A
> PaulA
> #9270
> On Fri, May 24, 2019 at 11:55 AM Larry - Cleveland via DeTomaso
> <[1][1]detomaso at server.detomasolist.com> wrote:
> << lucky they didn't crush the frame rail>>
> Did we not talk about this with Charlie's car in Spain a
number of
> years
> ago? How some cars having a support tube inside the frame?
> Larry (could be dreaming) - Cleveland
> -----Original Message-----
> From: DeTomaso
<[2][2]detomaso-bounces at server.detomasolist.com> On
> Behalf Of Mike
> & Elizabeth Thomas
> Sent: May 24, 2019 10:56 AM
> To: 'Joseph F. Byrd, Jr.' <[3][3]byrdjf at embarqmail.com>;
> [4][4]detomaso at server.detomasolist.com
> Subject: Re: [DeTomaso] Rear Suspension Clevis Mount Needed
> Sure Joe.A When the replacement arrives in the next few days
I'll
> have the
> old one off for closer inspection.A There is also an
interesting
> washer that
> was starting to deform.A Looks like somebody may have torqued
it
> too hard
> during a previous alignment - lucky they didn't crush the
frame
> rail.
> -----Original Message-----
> From: DeTomaso
<[5][5]detomaso-bounces at server.detomasolist.com> On
> Behalf Of
> Joseph F. Byrd, Jr.
> Sent: Thursday, May 23, 2019 7:12 PM
> To: [6][6]detomaso at server.detomasolist.com
> Subject: Re: [DeTomaso] Rear Suspension Clevis Mount Needed
> Could you share photos of the bungled threads.A A
> (My curiosity and entrenched need to have a root cause
analysis for
> a
> mechanical failure)
> Joe
> -----Original Message-----
> From: DeTomaso
> [[151]mailto:[7][7]detomaso-bounces at server.detomasolist.com]
> On Behalf
> Of Mike & Elizabeth Thomas
> Sent: Thursday, May 23, 2019 19:46 PM
> Subject: Re: [DeTomaso] Rear Suspension Clevis Mount Needed
> Yes, and thankfully it was virtuous enough to stay attached
and not
> ruin my
> day . . .
> -------
> Thanks all, sourced one with Steve Wilkinson yesterday.A It's
> actually a
> forged piece and has not been remade in a quality manner so
NOS is
> the only
> source.A Strange that I would have one with bungled threads -
no
> idea how
> long it's been like that.
> Mike Thomas
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My late model car had a tube in the frame rails. I believe the
earlier
cars have an additional steel support in the frame rail.A
Paul
#9270
On Fri, May 24, 2019 at 6:02 PM Pantdino via DeTomaso
<[1]detomaso at server.detomasolist.com> wrote:
A A IIRC the conclusion was that in the post-Ford cars DeT
couldnat
be
A A bothered to put a spacer tube inside the frame rail to
prevent
the rail
A A from being crushed when the bolt was tightened.A Not a
problem
with the
A A Ford era cars.
A A Jim
A A Sent from AOL Mobile Mail
A A On Friday, May 24, 2019, Paul Timko <[2]thedrol at pobox.com>
wrote:
A A A Yup it comes up every 5 years or so.A
A A A PaulA
A A A #9270
A A A On Fri, May 24, 2019 at 11:55 AM Larry - Cleveland via
DeTomaso
A A A <[1][1][3]detomaso at server.detomasolist.com> wrote:
A A A A << lucky they didn't crush the frame rail>>
A A A A Did we not talk about this with Charlie's car in Spain
a
number of
A A A A years
A A A A ago? How some cars having a support tube inside the
frame?
A A A A Larry (could be dreaming) - Cleveland
A A A A -----Original Message-----
A A A A From: DeTomaso
<[2][2][4]detomaso-bounces at server.detomasolist.com> On
A A A A Behalf Of Mike
A A A A & Elizabeth Thomas
A A A A Sent: May 24, 2019 10:56 AM
A A A A To: 'Joseph F. Byrd, Jr.'
<[3][3][5]byrdjf at embarqmail.com>;
A A A A [4][4][6]detomaso at server.detomasolist.com
A A A A Subject: Re: [DeTomaso] Rear Suspension Clevis Mount
Needed
A A A A Sure Joe.AA When the replacement arrives in the next
few
days I'll
A A A A have the
A A A A old one off for closer inspection.AA There is also an
interesting
A A A A washer that
A A A A was starting to deform.AA Looks like somebody may have
torqued it
A A A A too hard
A A A A during a previous alignment - lucky they didn't crush
the
frame
A A A A rail.
A A A A -----Original Message-----
A A A A From: DeTomaso
<[5][5][7]detomaso-bounces at server.detomasolist.com> On
A A A A Behalf Of
A A A A Joseph F. Byrd, Jr.
A A A A Sent: Thursday, May 23, 2019 7:12 PM
A A A A To: [6][6][8]detomaso at server.detomasolist.com
A A A A Subject: Re: [DeTomaso] Rear Suspension Clevis Mount
Needed
A A A A Could you share photos of the bungled threads.AA A
A A A A (My curiosity and entrenched need to have a root cause
analysis for
A A A A a
A A A A mechanical failure)
A A A A Joe
A A A A -----Original Message-----
A A A A From: DeTomaso
A A
[[181]mailto:[7][7][9]detomaso-bounces at server.detomasolist.com]
A A A A On Behalf
A A A A Of Mike & Elizabeth Thomas
A A A A Sent: Thursday, May 23, 2019 19:46 PM
A A A A Subject: Re: [DeTomaso] Rear Suspension Clevis Mount
Needed
A A A A Yes, and thankfully it was virtuous enough to stay
attached and not
A A A A ruin my
A A A A day . . .
A A A A -------
A A A A Thanks all, sourced one with Steve Wilkinson
yesterday.AA It's
A A A A actually a
A A A A forged piece and has not been remade in a quality
manner
so NOS is
A A A A the only
A A A A source.AA Strange that I would have one with bungled
threads - no
A A A A idea how
A A A A long it's been like that.
A A A A Mike Thomas
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Message: 21
Date: Sun, 26 May 2019 12:14:30 -0700
From: "Steve" <steve at snclocks.com>
To: <detomaso at server.detomasolist.com>
Subject: [DeTomaso] New Steering Wheel
Message-ID: <005a01d513f7$3efac790$bcf056b0$@snclocks.com>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"
Been driving our car with the new Nardi steering wheel - I love it - it
matches my image of the car - a low, fast, sleek, sexy European GT!
Hopefully the attached picture is small enough to get posted. If not,
a
full definition shot can be found here, along with some shots of our
car
from a drive this morning:
[242]https://nam02.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=https%3A%2F%2F
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Note, to see the photo full size - click on the larger photo to the
right.
I mounted the Nardi wheel with an adapter that was specific for a
Pantera -
and, hey, the splines matched up. Turns out I had to remove like 1/8
inch
from the back of the hub, and re-mill the slot for the turn indicator
return
collar, but, with that behind us, it is perfect. I love the feel of
the
leather, the ease of getting into the car, and the way it looks.
Stephen 5332
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Been driving our car with the new Nardi steering wheel - I love it -
it
matches my image of the car - a low, fast, sleek, sexy European GT!
Hopefully the attached picture is small enough to get posted. If
not,
a full definition shot can be found here, along with some shots of
our
car from a drive this morning:
[1]https://nam02.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=https%3A%2F%2Fww
w.snclocks.com%2FTheRestofourWorld%2FAutos%2F1973-Pantera-Detoma&da
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so-5332/i-jsgmWTV
Note, to see the photo full size - click on the larger photo to the
right...
I mounted the Nardi wheel with an adapter that was specific for a
Pantera - and, hey, the splines matched up. Turns out I had to
remove
like 1/8 inch from the back of the hub, and re-mill the slot for the
turn indicator return collar, but, with that behind us, it is
perfect.
I love the feel of the leather, the ease of getting into the car,
and
the way it looks.
Stephen 5332
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Message: 22
Date: Sun, 26 May 2019 13:30:08 -0700
From: Asa Jay Laughton <asajay at asajay.com>
Cc: DeTomaso Email List <detomaso at server.detomasolist.com>
Subject: Re: [DeTomaso] New Steering Wheel
Message-ID: <9c03163b-774a-4b6a-89b2-5fe4383b2fbc at asajay.com>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8"
Looks very sharp in there, nice wheel.
:)
Asa Jay
?Asa? Jay? Laughton, W7TSC, MSgt, USAFR, retired
Sent using Jedi Mind Tricks?
On May 26, 2019, 12:14, at 12:14, Steve <steve at snclocks.com> wrote:
>Been driving our car with the new Nardi steering wheel - I love it -
it
>matches my image of the car - a low, fast, sleek, sexy European GT!
>Hopefully the attached picture is small enough to get posted. If not,
>a
>full definition shot can be found here, along with some shots of our
>car
>from a drive this morning:
>[245]https://nam02.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=https%3A%2F%2
Fwww.snclocks.com%2FTheRestofourWorld%2FAutos%2F1973-Pantera-Detomaso-5
332%2F&data=02%7C01%7C%7C347b4c77f7db44b29ef008d6e48c7eb4%7C84df9e7
fe9f640afb435aaaaaaaaaaaa%7C1%7C0%7C636947689421602686&sdata=MCUJjs
i3BzIzZrxwRHYDtwp0OoD6QXHhRLCH5wX2GDI%3D&reserved=0
>i-jsgmWTV
>
>
>
>Note, to see the photo full size - click on the larger photo to the
>right.
>
>
>
>I mounted the Nardi wheel with an adapter that was specific for a
>Pantera -
>and, hey, the splines matched up. Turns out I had to remove like 1/8
>inch
>from the back of the hub, and re-mill the slot for the turn indicator
>return
>collar, but, with that behind us, it is perfect. I love the feel of
>the
>leather, the ease of getting into the car, and the way it looks.
>
>
>
>Stephen 5332
>
>
>
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Looks very sharp in there, nice wheel.
:)
Asa Jay
AsaA JayA Laughton, W7TSC, MSgt, USAFR, retired
Sent using Jedi Mind Tricks
On May 26, 2019, at 12:14, Steve <[1]steve at snclocks.com> wrote:
Been driving our car with the new Nardi steering wheel - I love it - it
matches my image of the car - a low, fast, sleek, sexy European GT!
Hopefully the attached picture is small enough to get posted. If not,
a
full definition shot can be found here, along with some shots of our
car
from a drive this morning:
[2]https://nam02.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=https%3A%2F%2Fww
w.snclocks.com%2FTheRestofourWorld%2FAutos%2F1973-Pantera-Detomaso-5332
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zIzZrxwRHYDtwp0OoD6QXHhRLCH5wX2GDI%3D&reserved=0
i-jsgmWTV
Note, to see the photo full size - click on the larger photo to the
right.
I mounted the Nardi wheel with an adapter that was specific for a
Pantera -
and, hey, the splines matched up. Turns out I had to remove like 1/8
inch
from the back of the hub, and re-mill the slot for the turn indicator
return
collar, but, with that behind us, it is perfect. I love the feel of
the
leather, the ease of getting into the car, and the way it looks.
Stephen 5332
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Message: 23
Date: Sun, 26 May 2019 14:51:24 -0700
From: "Mike & Elizabeth Thomas" <mbefthomas at comcast.net>
To: <detomaso at server.detomasolist.com>
Subject: [DeTomaso] SPC: Panther Prototype at Lake Cuomo
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Take a look at the attached Shmee 150 video shot at a Concourso at Lake
Cuomo. At about 1:30 min in. It didn't hit me until later in the
video
when I saw a flash of the rear quarter. Then looking back through it,
Tim
refers to it at this point as the Panther, and with the rest of the
profile
and the headlights it hit me, this must be the Pantera prototype, or
one of
them. Shmee is focused on the Bugatti for a while but does comes back
to
it at about 6:50 min in and refers to it as the Ares Panther, based on
a
Lamborghini Huracan, but does not seem to make any connection to the
DeTomaso Pantera other than to day it picks up styling cues from 'cars
of
old'.
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Pres., Panteras Northwest
206-795-3302
Yellow '74 #6328
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Take a look at the attached Shmee 150 video shot at a Concourso at
Lake
Cuomo. At about 1:30 min in. It didn't hit me until later in the
video when I saw a flash of the rear quarter. Then looking back
through it, Tim refers to it at this point as the Panther, and with
the
rest of the profile and the headlights it hit me, this must be the
Pantera prototype, or one of them. Shmee is focused on the Bugatti
for a while but does comes back to it at about 6:50 min in and
refers
to it as the Ares Panther, based on a Lamborghini Huracan, but does
not
seem to make any connection to the DeTomaso Pantera other than to
day
it picks up styling cues from `cars of old'.
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Mike Thomas
Pres., Panteras Northwest
206-795-3302
Yellow '74 #6328
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Message: 24
Date: Wed, 29 May 2019 05:55:22 +0000 (UTC)
From: laurieferrari at aol.com
To: detomaso at server.detomasolist.com
Subject: [DeTomaso] Tom Tjaarda Scholarship Fund (via Dave & Linda
Adler)
Message-ID: <756500889.5268268.1559109322488 at mail.yahoo.com>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8"
Sharing info. on Mrs. Tjaarda's aim to establish the?Tom Tjaarda
Scholarship Fund and reach $10,000 scholarship for a worthy design
student.? Thus far, generous contributions have hit nearly 3,000.? Dave
and Linda would like to spread the word and let all those aware and
those who are interested in being a part of Tom's legacy the ability to
participate. Donations are accepted in any amount, and can be
publicized or anonymous; whatever you are able.? Tom's wife, Paola, is
reaching out to all who loved Tom, especially to Pantera Owners, to
donate in honor of Tom.. details below.? ?If you'd like to join in,
please go to DeTomaso International Facebook page for the link to
donate or visit website?(Website:?https://www.ied.it/?)??Many of our
Worldwide members have already shown their gratitude to Tom and their
generosity for this worthy cause. The presentation of this scholarship
Award goes to the gifted student selected on June 20th.? If interested,
it seems timing is of the essence.?
?Share? Tweet??32?shares
Attention all Tom Tjaarda and Pantera Enthusiasts!
Mrs. Paola Tjaarda, Tom Tjaarda's wife, has asked DeTomaso
International and the DeTomaso Community, to participate in
establishing a scholarship at the prestigious I.E.D. School of Design
in Torino, Italy. The scholarship would be in Tom Tjaarda's beloved
name and would be presented to an outstanding design student on June
20, 2019 in Torino, Italy. (Website:?https://www.ied.it/?)
The winning student will be selected by a formal Jury at the
institution.
Mrs. Tjaarda is not able to fund the scholarship herself and has asked
us to spearhead a campaign to raise at least 2,000 Euros or more.
We are original Pantera owners. We have had the good fortune to meet
with Tom and Paola over the years. Although he designed many important
automobiles, the Pantera was his favorite. Just look how this amazing
car has touched all of our lives. Tom loved how passionate Pantera
owners are about the car and how much pleasure the Pantera gave to so
many.?
Tom touched so many or our lives when he visited the US and spoke at
events or signed autographs and sun visors, dashboards and more for us.
When the DeTomaso Factory did not represent the marque in the US, Tom
was there to be what we called, "the face of DeTomaso". He spoke so
well at many Concours, conventions and universities about his
experience with A. DeTomaso and the development of the Pantera,
Longchamp and Deauville.?
If you ever met the gentleman, you would know exactly what we are
talking about. He was an inspiration. Humble, intelligent and a person
of great integrity and creativity. Even when Tom was critically ill, he
would help when called upon to teach and inform the Pantera enthusiast.
Please, let us honor Tom in this small way and help an outstanding
automobile design student follow in Tom's footsteps. On behalf of Mrs.
Tjaarda, we thank you for your contributions. Time is running short to
raise these funds. Kindly donate what you are able to now. All funds
raised less any Gofundme expenses will be donated to the scholarship
fund in Tom Tjaarda's good name.
Respectfully,Dave and Linda Adler
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Sharing info. on Mrs. Tjaarda's aim to establish the Tom Tjaarda
Scholarship
Fund and reach $10,000 scholarship for a worthy design student. Thus
far,
generous contributions have hit nearly 3,000. Dave and Linda would
like to
spread the word and let all those aware and those who are interested in
being
a part of Tom's legacy the ability to participate. Donations are
accepted in
any amount, and can be publicized or anonymous; whatever you are able.
Tom's
wife, Paola, is reaching out to all who loved Tom, especially to
Pantera
Owners, to donate in honor of Tom.. details below. If you'd like to
join
in, please go to DeTomaso International Facebook page for the link to
donate
or visit website (Website:
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our Worldwide
members have already shown their gratitude to Tom and their generosity
for
this worthy cause. The presentation of this scholarship Award goes to
the
gifted student selected on June 20th. If interested, it seems timing
is of
the essence.
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Attention all Tom Tjaarda and Pantera Enthusiasts!
Mrs. Paola Tjaarda, Tom Tjaarda's wife, has asked DeTomaso
International and the DeTomaso Community, to participate in
establishing a scholarship at the prestigious I.E.D. School of
Design
in Torino, Italy. The scholarship would be in Tom Tjaarda's beloved
name and would be presented to an outstanding design student on June
20, 2019 in Torino, Italy. (Website:
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w.ied.it%2F&data=02%7C01%7C%7C347b4c77f7db44b29ef008d6e48c7eb4%7C84
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3uplNKMHsAZVPBV3G0NIJdsONLDDwVYfmAp6cByKgo%3D&reserved=0 )
The winning student will be selected by a formal Jury at the
institution.
Mrs. Tjaarda is not able to fund the scholarship herself and has
asked
us to spearhead a campaign to raise at least 2,000 Euros or more.
We are original Pantera owners. We have had the good fortune to meet
with Tom and Paola over the years. Although he designed many
important
automobiles, the Pantera was his favorite. Just look how this
amazing
car has touched all of our lives. Tom loved how passionate Pantera
owners are about the car and how much pleasure the Pantera gave to
so
many.
Tom touched so many or our lives when he visited the US and spoke at
events or signed autographs and sun visors, dashboards and more for
us.
When the DeTomaso Factory did not represent the marque in the US,
Tom
was there to be what we called, "the face of DeTomaso". He spoke so
well at many Concours, conventions and universities about his
experience with A. DeTomaso and the development of the Pantera,
Longchamp and Deauville.
If you ever met the gentleman, you would know exactly what we are
talking about. He was an inspiration. Humble, intelligent and a
person
of great integrity and creativity. Even when Tom was critically ill,
he
would help when called upon to teach and inform the Pantera
enthusiast.
Please, let us honor Tom in this small way and help an outstanding
automobile design student follow in Tom's footsteps. On behalf of
Mrs.
Tjaarda, we thank you for your contributions. Time is running short
to
raise these funds. Kindly donate what you are able to now. All funds
raised less any Gofundme expenses will be donated to the scholarship
fund in Tom Tjaarda's good name.
Respectfully,Dave and Linda Adler [39090790_1557356337669174_r.jpeg]
References
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Message: 25
Date: Wed, 29 May 2019 17:22:29 +0000 (UTC)
From: Curt Hall <cuvee at sbcglobal.net>
To: Detomaso Email List <detomaso at detomasolist.com>, Peter Kovacs
<peter-kovacs at sbcglobal.net>, Mike Drew <mikeldrew at aol.com>
Subject: [DeTomaso] Reno Fun Rally
Message-ID: <1999599342.6311806.1559150549326 at mail.yahoo.com>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8"
Getting close to the Reno Event...Haven't heard much if any one from
Capital Panteras or the PCNC are heading to Reno? If so, what Route are
people taking? It would be nice to travel with the group.
If anyone has more info Please let me know.
Thank Curt Hall
-------------- next part --------------
Getting close to the Reno Event...Haven't heard much if any one from
Capital Panteras or the PCNC are heading to Reno? If so, what Route
are
people taking? It would be nice to travel with the group.
If anyone has more info Please let me know.
Thank Curt Hall
------------------------------
Message: 26
Date: Wed, 29 May 2019 13:08:56 -0700
From: Mike Drew <MikeLDrew at aol.com>
To: Curt Hall <cuvee at sbcglobal.net>
Cc: Detomaso Email List <detomaso at detomasolist.com>, Peter Kovacs
<peter-kovacs at sbcglobal.net>
Subject: Re: [DeTomaso] Reno Fun Rally
Message-ID: <C5D09622-FAFE-4738-ADAA-4469E682715A at aol.com>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8"
Curt,
All you need to do is read the PCNC newsletter (which is free for all
to read).
[260]https://nam02.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=http%3A%2F%2Fw
ww.panteraclubnorcal.org%2Fg---current-pcnc-newsletter&data=02%7C01
%7C%7C347b4c77f7db44b29ef008d6e48c7eb4%7C84df9e7fe9f640afb435aaaaaaaaaa
aa%7C1%7C0%7C636947689421632701&sdata=KLbMQEAUQUtg5xRFwb%2FGg4SrZn7
kyu83xKeuk8eERHU%3D&reserved=0
We will be enjoying a scenic drive through the twisties and a brunch at
the idyllic mountain home of Marcus and Irene Smith. See the flyer in
the newsletter with all the info.
Looking forward to seeing everyone there! I?ve heard from several
people who haven?t attend a Fun Rally in years who are planning on
attending this one. If people are on the fence, it?s never too late to
sign up. See you there!
Mike
Sent from my iPad
> On May 29, 2019, at 10:22, Curt Hall <cuvee at sbcglobal.net> wrote:
>
> Getting close to the Reno Event...Haven't heard much if any one from
Capital Panteras or the PCNC are heading to Reno? If so, what Route are
people taking? It would be nice to travel with the group.
>
> If anyone has more info Please let me know.
>
> Thank Curt Hall
-------------- next part --------------
Curt,
All you need to do is read the PCNC newsletter (which is free for
all
to read).
[1]https://nam02.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=http%3A%2F%2Fwww
.panteraclubnorcal.org%2Fg---current-pcnc-newsletter&data=02%7C01%7
C%7C347b4c77f7db44b29ef008d6e48c7eb4%7C84df9e7fe9f640afb435aaaaaaaaaaaa
%7C1%7C0%7C636947689421632701&sdata=KLbMQEAUQUtg5xRFwb%2FGg4SrZn7ky
u83xKeuk8eERHU%3D&reserved=0
We will be enjoying a scenic drive through the twisties and a brunch
at
the idyllic mountain home of Marcus and Irene Smith. See the flyer
in
the newsletter with all the info.
Looking forward to seeing everyone there! I've heard from several
people who haven't attend a Fun Rally in years who are planning on
attending this one. If people are on the fence, it's never too late
to
sign up. See you there!
Mike
Sent from my iPad
On May 29, 2019, at 10:22, Curt Hall <[2]cuvee at sbcglobal.net> wrote:
Getting close to the Reno Event...Haven't heard much if any one from
Capital Panteras or the PCNC are heading to Reno? If so, what Route
are
people taking? It would be nice to travel with the group.
If anyone has more info Please let me know.
Thank Curt Hall
References
1.
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ww.panteraclubnorcal.org%2Fg---current-pcnc-newsletter&data=02%7C01
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Message: 27
Date: Wed, 29 May 2019 20:44:56 +0000 (UTC)
From: Curt Hall <cuvee at sbcglobal.net>
To: Mike Drew <MikeLDrew at aol.com>
Cc: Detomaso Email List <detomaso at detomasolist.com>, Peter Kovacs
<peter-kovacs at sbcglobal.net>
Subject: Re: [DeTomaso] Reno Fun Rally
Message-ID: <1156665880.6423447.1559162696552 at mail.yahoo.com>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8"
Hey Mike...
I'm going and Peter may go to the Smith's house but not to Reno. Mark
and Cindy are leaving on Thursday.Are You going up 88 if so We can meet
up some place along 88? I've made contact with Larry Finch so Us three
could meet up with the Group. Unless You take a different Route??
Curt
On Wednesday, May 29, 2019, 1:13:33 PM PDT, Mike Drew
<MikeLDrew at aol.com> wrote:
Curt,
All you need to do is read the PCNC newsletter (which is free for all
to read). ?
[263]https://nam02.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=http%3A%2F%2Fw
ww.panteraclubnorcal.org%2Fg---current-pcnc-newsletter&data=02%7C01
%7C%7C347b4c77f7db44b29ef008d6e48c7eb4%7C84df9e7fe9f640afb435aaaaaaaaaa
aa%7C1%7C0%7C636947689421642694&sdata=f8y1h8sSfT6JJLM0HZwU7cdkYLVqH
7l204cJ9uIdtVw%3D&reserved=0
We will be enjoying a scenic drive through the twisties and a brunch at
the idyllic mountain home of Marcus and Irene Smith. See the flyer in
the newsletter with all the info.
Looking forward to seeing everyone there! I?ve heard from several
people who haven?t attend a Fun Rally in years who are planning on
attending this one. ?If people are on the fence, it?s never too late to
sign up. See you there!
Mike?
Sent from my iPad
On May 29, 2019, at 10:22, Curt Hall <cuvee at sbcglobal.net> wrote:
Getting close to the Reno Event...Haven't heard much if any one from
Capital Panteras or the PCNC are heading to Reno? If so, what Route are
people taking? It would be nice to travel with the group.
If anyone has more info Please let me know.
Thank Curt Hall
-------------- next part --------------
Hey Mike...
I'm going and Peter may go to the Smith's house but not to Reno.
Mark
and Cindy are leaving on Thursday.
Are You going up 88 if so We can meet up some place along 88? I've
made
contact with Larry Finch so Us three could meet up with the Group.
Unless You take a different Route?
Curt
On Wednesday, May 29, 2019, 1:13:33 PM PDT, Mike Drew
<MikeLDrew at aol.com> wrote:
Curt,
All you need to do is read the PCNC newsletter (which is free for
all
to read).
[1]https://nam02.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=http%3A%2F%2Fwww
.panteraclubnorcal.org%2Fg---current-pcnc-newsletter&data=02%7C01%7
C%7C347b4c77f7db44b29ef008d6e48c7eb4%7C84df9e7fe9f640afb435aaaaaaaaaaaa
%7C1%7C0%7C636947689421642694&sdata=f8y1h8sSfT6JJLM0HZwU7cdkYLVqH7l
204cJ9uIdtVw%3D&reserved=0
We will be enjoying a scenic drive through the twisties and a brunch
at
the idyllic mountain home of Marcus and Irene Smith. See the flyer
in
the newsletter with all the info.
Looking forward to seeing everyone there! Iave heard from several
people who havenat attend a Fun Rally in years who are planning on
attending this one. If people are on the fence, itas never too late
to
sign up. See you there!
Mike
Sent from my iPad
On May 29, 2019, at 10:22, Curt Hall <[2]cuvee at sbcglobal.net> wrote:
Getting close to the Reno Event...Haven't heard much if any one from
Capital Panteras or the PCNC are heading to Reno? If so, what Route
are
people taking? It would be nice to travel with the group.
If anyone has more info Please let me know.
Thank Curt Hall
References
1.
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ww.panteraclubnorcal.org%2Fg---current-pcnc-newsletter&data=02%7C01
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Message: 28
Date: Wed, 29 May 2019 21:37:49 +0000
From: Julian Kift <julian_kift at hotmail.com>
To: Curt Hall <cuvee at sbcglobal.net>, Mike Drew <MikeLDrew at aol.com>
Cc: Detomaso Email List <detomaso at detomasolist.com>, Peter Kovacs
<peter-kovacs at sbcglobal.net>
Subject: Re: [DeTomaso] Reno Fun Rally
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Mike,
As much of a riveting read as the PCNC Newsletters are they seem to
have no mention of the Reno Fun Rally and any scenic drive?
Julian
________________________________
From: DeTomaso <detomaso-bounces at server.detomasolist.com> on behalf of
Mike Drew via DeTomaso <detomaso at server.detomasolist.com>
Sent: Wednesday, May 29, 2019 1:08 PM
To: Curt Hall
Cc: Detomaso Email List; Peter Kovacs
Subject: Re: [DeTomaso] Reno Fun Rally
Curt,
All you need to do is read the PCNC newsletter (which is free for all
to read).
[266]https://nam02.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=http%3A%2F%2Fw
ww.panteraclubnorcal.org%2Fg---current-pcnc-newsletter&data=02%7C01
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We will be enjoying a scenic drive through the twisties and a brunch at
the idyllic mountain home of Marcus and Irene Smith. See the flyer in
the newsletter with all the info.
Looking forward to seeing everyone there! I?ve heard from several
people who haven?t attend a Fun Rally in years who are planning on
attending this one. If people are on the fence, it?s never too late to
sign up. See you there!
Mike
Sent from my iPad
> On May 29, 2019, at 10:22, Curt Hall <cuvee at sbcglobal.net> wrote:
>
> Getting close to the Reno Event...Haven't heard much if any one from
Capital Panteras or the PCNC are heading to Reno? If so, what Route are
people taking? It would be nice to travel with the group.
>
> If anyone has more info Please let me know.
>
> Thank Curt Hall
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Mike,
As much of a riveting read as the PCNC Newsletters are they seem to
have no mention of the Reno Fun Rally and any scenic drive?
Julian
__________________________________________________________________
From: DeTomaso <detomaso-bounces at server.detomasolist.com> on behalf
of
Mike Drew via DeTomaso <detomaso at server.detomasolist.com>
Sent: Wednesday, May 29, 2019 1:08 PM
To: Curt Hall
Cc: Detomaso Email List; Peter Kovacs
Subject: Re: [DeTomaso] Reno Fun Rally
Curt,
All you need to do is read the PCNC newsletter (which is free for
all
to read).
[1]https://nam02.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=http%3A%2F%2Fwww
.panteraclubnorcal.org%2Fg---current-pcnc-newsletter&data=02%7C01%7
C%7C347b4c77f7db44b29ef008d6e48c7eb4%7C84df9e7fe9f640afb435aaaaaaaaaaaa
%7C1%7C0%7C636947689421642694&sdata=f8y1h8sSfT6JJLM0HZwU7cdkYLVqH7l
204cJ9uIdtVw%3D&reserved=0
We will be enjoying a scenic drive through the twisties and a brunch
at
the idyllic mountain home of Marcus and Irene Smith. See the flyer
in
the newsletter with all the info.
Looking forward to seeing everyone there! I've heard from several
people who haven't attend a Fun Rally in years who are planning on
attending this one. If people are on the fence, it's never too late
to
sign up. See you there!
Mike
Sent from my iPad
> On May 29, 2019, at 10:22, Curt Hall <cuvee at sbcglobal.net> wrote:
>
> Getting close to the Reno Event...Haven't heard much if any one
from
Capital Panteras or the PCNC are heading to Reno? If so, what Route
are
people taking? It would be nice to travel with the group.
>
> If anyone has more info Please let me know.
>
> Thank Curt Hall
References
1.
[267]https://nam02.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=http%3A%2F%2Fw
ww.panteraclubnorcal.org%2Fg---current-pcnc-newsletter&data=02%7C01
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Message: 29
Date: Wed, 29 May 2019 21:57:01 +0000 (UTC)
From: laurieferrari at aol.com
To: jeffcobb1 at me.com
Cc: detomaso at server.detomasolist.com, rcumberford at gmail.com,
woehlrwrld at aol.com
Subject: Re: [DeTomaso] Tom Tjaarda Scholarship Fund (via Dave & Linda
Adler)
Message-ID: <281829943.6481044.1559167021430 at mail.yahoo.com>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8"
Thank you Jeff for being involved and for sharing such fond memories
with Tom.?Dave says many people contributed today and is so very
grateful!!!To make it easier for those on the Forum who wish to
participate, here is the direct link for contributing:
This is the GoFundMe link
[268]https://nam02.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=https%3A%2F%2F
www.gofundme.com%2Ftom-tjaarda-scholarship-fund%3FteamInvite%3DlkJW4LCV
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-----Original Message-----
From: Jeff Cobb <jeffcobb1 at me.com>
To: laurieferrari <laurieferrari at aol.com>
Cc: Robert Cumberford <rcumberford at gmail.com>; Markus + Kristi. Woehler
<woehlrwrld at aol.com>
Sent: Wed, May 29, 2019 2:47 am
Subject: Re: [DeTomaso] Tom Tjaarda Scholarship Fund (via Dave & Linda
Adler)
Hello all,
? This sounds like fine thing to do. I can see Tom nodding yes to this
action right now.
Tom's warm, humble, no hidden agenda and honest friendship left me with
great memories and taught me to increase my inspiration to create and
make what my minds eye sees. Plus his many life stories were great.
? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? At the 2001 Lamborghini Monterey club
dinner with friends. We arrived an hour late only to then realize that
we were on time when meeting with Italians.
? What an honor it is for me to have known Tom and to be able to call
him my friend.
Honest friends are few and far. I stand prouder now. He enriched all
our lives.
? Maybe Tom is doing cloud base designs now! Funny that the Carol King
song of "So far away" just came on.
? Thank you Paola for Tom coming to Louisiana those three times, he
created wonderful memories for many here. A friend at the Italian
restaurant we would go to asked about Tom last week. Brought me a tear
as told of Tom leaving us.
Thank you for sending this note and I will do my part in helping.
Jeff Cobb
Baton Rouge, La.
Sent from my brain.
> On May 29, 2019, at 12:55 AM, Laurie Ferrari via DeTomaso
<detomaso at server.detomasolist.com> wrote:
>
> Sharing info. on Mrs. Tjaarda's aim to establish the Tom Tjaarda
Scholarship
> Fund and reach $10,000 scholarship for a worthy design student.? Thus
far,
> generous contributions have hit nearly 3,000.? Dave and Linda would
like to
> spread the word and let all those aware and those who are interested
in being
> a part of Tom's legacy the ability to participate. Donations are
accepted in
> any amount, and can be publicized or anonymous; whatever you are
able.? Tom's
> wife, Paola, is reaching out to all who loved Tom, especially to
Pantera
> Owners, to donate in honor of Tom.. details below.? If you'd like to
join
> in, please go to DeTomaso International Facebook page for the link to
donate
> or visit website (Website:
[1]https://nam02.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=https%3A%2F%2Fww
w.ied.it%2F&data=02%7C01%7C%7C347b4c77f7db44b29ef008d6e48c7eb4%7C84
df9e7fe9f640afb435aaaaaaaaaaaa%7C1%7C0%7C636947689421652729&sdata=2
3B%2B9OEFiToaUBftBac4UmYnDCbP6%2FMS9dYkU7TS6OE%3D&reserved=0 )?
Many of our Worldwide
> members have already shown their gratitude to Tom and their
generosity for
> this worthy cause. The presentation of this scholarship Award goes to
the
> gifted student selected on June 20th.? If interested, it seems timing
is of
> the essence.
>
>? [2] Share
>? [3]? Tweet
>? ? 32 shares
>? Attention all Tom Tjaarda and Pantera Enthusiasts!
>? Mrs. Paola Tjaarda, Tom Tjaarda's wife, has asked DeTomaso
>? International and the DeTomaso Community, to participate in
>? establishing a scholarship at the prestigious I.E.D. School of
Design
>? in Torino, Italy. The scholarship would be in Tom Tjaarda's beloved
>? name and would be presented to an outstanding design student on June
>? 20, 2019 in Torino, Italy. (Website:
[4]https://nam02.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=https%3A%2F%2Fww
w.ied.it%2F&data=02%7C01%7C%7C347b4c77f7db44b29ef008d6e48c7eb4%7C84
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3B%2B9OEFiToaUBftBac4UmYnDCbP6%2FMS9dYkU7TS6OE%3D&reserved=0 )
>? The winning student will be selected by a formal Jury at the
>? institution.
>? Mrs. Tjaarda is not able to fund the scholarship herself and has
asked
>? us to spearhead a campaign to raise at least 2,000 Euros or more.
>? We are original Pantera owners. We have had the good fortune to meet
>? with Tom and Paola over the years. Although he designed many
important
>? automobiles, the Pantera was his favorite. Just look how this
amazing
>? car has touched all of our lives. Tom loved how passionate Pantera
>? owners are about the car and how much pleasure the Pantera gave to
so
>? many.
>? Tom touched so many or our lives when he visited the US and spoke at
>? events or signed autographs and sun visors, dashboards and more for
us.
>? When the DeTomaso Factory did not represent the marque in the US,
Tom
>? was there to be what we called, "the face of DeTomaso". He spoke so
>? well at many Concours, conventions and universities about his
>? experience with A. DeTomaso and the development of the Pantera,
>? Longchamp and Deauville.
>? If you ever met the gentleman, you would know exactly what we are
>? talking about. He was an inspiration. Humble, intelligent and a
person
>? of great integrity and creativity. Even when Tom was critically ill,
he
>? would help when called upon to teach and inform the Pantera
enthusiast.
>? Please, let us honor Tom in this small way and help an outstanding
>? automobile design student follow in Tom's footsteps. On behalf of
Mrs.
>? Tjaarda, we thank you for your contributions. Time is running short
to
>? raise these funds. Kindly donate what you are able to now. All funds
>? raised less any Gofundme expenses will be donated to the scholarship
>? fund in Tom Tjaarda's good name.
>? Respectfully,Dave and Linda Adler [39090790_1557356337669174_r.jpeg]
>
> References
>
>? 1.
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Thank you Jeff for being involved and for sharing such fond memories
with Tom.
Dave says many people contributed today and is so very grateful!!!
To make it easier for those on the Forum who wish to participate,
here
is the direct link for contributing:
This is the GoFundMe link
[1]https://nam02.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=https%3A%2F%2Fww
w.gofundme.com%2Ftom-tjaarda-scholarship-fund%3FteamInvite%3DlkJ&da
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-----Original Message-----
From: Jeff Cobb <jeffcobb1 at me.com>
To: laurieferrari <laurieferrari at aol.com>
Cc: Robert Cumberford <rcumberford at gmail.com>; Markus + Kristi.
Woehler
<woehlrwrld at aol.com>
Sent: Wed, May 29, 2019 2:47 am
Subject: Re: [DeTomaso] Tom Tjaarda Scholarship Fund (via Dave &
Linda
Adler)
Hello all,
This sounds like fine thing to do. I can see Tom nodding yes to
this
action right now.
Tom's warm, humble, no hidden agenda and honest friendship left me
with
great memories and taught me to increase my inspiration to create
and
make what my minds eye sees. Plus his many life stories were great.
At the 2001 Lamborghini Monterey
club
dinner with friends. We arrived an hour late only to then realize
that
we were on time when meeting with Italians.
What an honor it is for me to have known Tom and to be able to
call
him my friend.
Honest friends are few and far. I stand prouder now. He enriched all
our lives.
Maybe Tom is doing cloud base designs now! Funny that the Carol
King
song of "So far away" just came on.
Thank you Paola for Tom coming to Louisiana those three times, he
created wonderful memories for many here. A friend at the Italian
restaurant we would go to asked about Tom last week. Brought me a
tear
as told of Tom leaving us.
Thank you for sending this note and I will do my part in helping.
Jeff Cobb
Baton Rouge, La.
Sent from my brain.
> On May 29, 2019, at 12:55 AM, Laurie Ferrari via DeTomaso
<[2]detomaso at server.detomasolist.com> wrote:
>
> Sharing info. on Mrs. Tjaarda's aim to establish the Tom Tjaarda
Scholarship
> Fund and reach $10,000 scholarship for a worthy design student.
Thus
far,
> generous contributions have hit nearly 3,000. Dave and Linda
would
like to
> spread the word and let all those aware and those who are
interested
in being
> a part of Tom's legacy the ability to participate. Donations are
accepted in
> any amount, and can be publicized or anonymous; whatever you are
able. Tom's
> wife, Paola, is reaching out to all who loved Tom, especially to
Pantera
> Owners, to donate in honor of Tom.. details below. If you'd like
to
join
> in, please go to DeTomaso International Facebook page for the link
to
donate
> or visit website (Website:
[1][3]https://nam02.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=https%3A%2F%2
Fwww.ied.it%2F&data=02%7C01%7C%7C347b4c77f7db44b29ef008d6e48c7eb4%7
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a=xdO2BrNREfLQCg70punzzyk4wG2hiXqOXXQIZhag6uQ%3D&reserved=0 ) Many
of our
Worldwide
> members have already shown their gratitude to Tom and their
generosity for
> this worthy cause. The presentation of this scholarship Award goes
to
the
> gifted student selected on June 20th. If interested, it seems
timing
is of
> the essence.
>
> [2] Share
> [3] Tweet
> 32 shares
> Attention all Tom Tjaarda and Pantera Enthusiasts!
> Mrs. Paola Tjaarda, Tom Tjaarda's wife, has asked DeTomaso
> International and the DeTomaso Community, to participate in
> establishing a scholarship at the prestigious I.E.D. School of
Design
> in Torino, Italy. The scholarship would be in Tom Tjaarda's
beloved
> name and would be presented to an outstanding design student on
June
> 20, 2019 in Torino, Italy. (Website:
[4][4]https://nam02.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=https%3A%2F%2
Fwww.ied.it%2F&data=02%7C01%7C%7C347b4c77f7db44b29ef008d6e48c7eb4%7
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a=xdO2BrNREfLQCg70punzzyk4wG2hiXqOXXQIZhag6uQ%3D&reserved=0 )
> The winning student will be selected by a formal Jury at the
> institution.
> Mrs. Tjaarda is not able to fund the scholarship herself and has
asked
> us to spearhead a campaign to raise at least 2,000 Euros or more.
> We are original Pantera owners. We have had the good fortune to
meet
> with Tom and Paola over the years. Although he designed many
important
> automobiles, the Pantera was his favorite. Just look how this
amazing
> car has touched all of our lives. Tom loved how passionate
Pantera
> owners are about the car and how much pleasure the Pantera gave
to
so
> many.
> Tom touched so many or our lives when he visited the US and spoke
at
> events or signed autographs and sun visors, dashboards and more
for
us.
> When the DeTomaso Factory did not represent the marque in the US,
Tom
> was there to be what we called, "the face of DeTomaso". He spoke
so
> well at many Concours, conventions and universities about his
> experience with A. DeTomaso and the development of the Pantera,
> Longchamp and Deauville.
> If you ever met the gentleman, you would know exactly what we are
> talking about. He was an inspiration. Humble, intelligent and a
person
> of great integrity and creativity. Even when Tom was critically
ill,
he
> would help when called upon to teach and inform the Pantera
enthusiast.
> Please, let us honor Tom in this small way and help an
outstanding
> automobile design student follow in Tom's footsteps. On behalf of
Mrs.
> Tjaarda, we thank you for your contributions. Time is running
short
to
> raise these funds. Kindly donate what you are able to now. All
funds
> raised less any Gofundme expenses will be donated to the
scholarship
> fund in Tom Tjaarda's good name.
> Respectfully,Dave and Linda Adler
[39090790_1557356337669174_r.jpeg]
>
> References
>
> 1.
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Message: 30
Date: Wed, 29 May 2019 15:29:04 -0700
From: Mike Drew <MikeLDrew at aol.com>
To: Curt Hall <cuvee at sbcglobal.net>
Cc: Detomaso Email List <detomaso at detomasolist.com>, Peter Kovacs
<peter-kovacs at sbcglobal.net>
Subject: Re: [DeTomaso] Reno Fun Rally
Message-ID: <CF310270-A010-4F9F-8FEC-2482A8A12E91 at aol.com>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8"
Curt,
Mea Dumbass.
I forgot that we sent the flyer directly to PCNC members but it wasn?t
in last month?s newsletter. It is in this month?s newsletter which I am
screwing together now (just got home a few hours ago from a six day
Pantera Rally in Ontario and Quebec....)
So, me es stupido.
I will have the newsletter done in 5-6 more hours and post it to the
site, so the link I sent out today will be valid for these purposes
tomorrow. Sorry about the confusion.
And yes, the BBQ is at the Smith?s house off Hwy 88 in Pine Grove, and
we will then take 88 to 395 to Reno.
See you There!
Oh, and here?s one pic from the Canada rally...Fred and Nancy Phillips
in Mark Charlton?s Longchamp GTS (out of gas...) and Lori in Fred?s
1982 GT5 (which got a much needed carb change later in the day....)
Wheeee!!!
Mike
Sent from my iPad
> On May 29, 2019, at 13:44, Curt Hall <cuvee at sbcglobal.net> wrote:
>
> Hey Mike...
>
> I'm going and Peter may go to the Smith's house but not to Reno. Mark
and Cindy are leaving on Thursday.
> Are You going up 88 if so We can meet up some place along 88? I've
made contact with Larry Finch so Us three could meet up with the Group.
Unless You take a different Route?
>
> Curt
>
> On Wednesday, May 29, 2019, 1:13:33 PM PDT, Mike Drew
<MikeLDrew at aol.com> wrote:
>
>
> Curt,
>
> All you need to do is read the PCNC newsletter (which is free for all
to read).
>
>
[284]https://nam02.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=http%3A%2F%2Fw
ww.panteraclubnorcal.org%2Fg---current-pcnc-newsletter&data=02%7C01
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>
> We will be enjoying a scenic drive through the twisties and a brunch
at the idyllic mountain home of Marcus and Irene Smith. See the flyer
in the newsletter with all the info.
>
> Looking forward to seeing everyone there! I?ve heard from several
people who haven?t attend a Fun Rally in years who are planning on
attending this one. If people are on the fence, it?s never too late to
sign up. See you there!
>
> Mike
>
>
> Sent from my iPad
>
>> On May 29, 2019, at 10:22, Curt Hall <cuvee at sbcglobal.net> wrote:
>>
>> Getting close to the Reno Event...Haven't heard much if any one from
Capital Panteras or the PCNC are heading to Reno? If so, what Route are
people taking? It would be nice to travel with the group.
>>
>> If anyone has more info Please let me know.
>>
>> Thank Curt Hall
-------------- next part --------------
Curt,
Mea Dumbass.
I forgot that we sent the flyer directly to PCNC members but it
wasn't
in last month's newsletter. It is in this month's newsletter which I
am
screwing together now (just got home a few hours ago from a six day
Pantera Rally in Ontario and Quebec....)
So, me es stupido.
I will have the newsletter done in 5-6 more hours and post it to the
site, so the link I sent out today will be valid for these purposes
tomorrow. Sorry about the confusion.
And yes, the BBQ is at the Smith's house off Hwy 88 in Pine Grove,
and
we will then take 88 to 395 to Reno.
See you There!
Oh, and here's one pic from the Canada rally...Fred and Nancy
Phillips
in Mark Charlton's Longchamp GTS (out of gas...) and Lori in Fred's
1982 GT5 (which got a much needed carb change later in the day....)
image1.jpeg
Wheeee!!!
Mike
Sent from my iPad
On May 29, 2019, at 13:44, Curt Hall <[1]cuvee at sbcglobal.net> wrote:
Hey Mike...
I'm going and Peter may go to the Smith's house but not to Reno.
Mark
and Cindy are leaving on Thursday.
Are You going up 88 if so We can meet up some place along 88? I've
made
contact with Larry Finch so Us three could meet up with the Group.
Unless You take a different Route?
Curt
On Wednesday, May 29, 2019, 1:13:33 PM PDT, Mike Drew
<[2]MikeLDrew at aol.com> wrote:
Curt,
All you need to do is read the PCNC newsletter (which is free for
all
to read).
[3]https://nam02.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=http%3A%2F%2Fwww
.panteraclubnorcal.org%2Fg---current-pcnc-newsletter&data=02%7C01%7
C%7C347b4c77f7db44b29ef008d6e48c7eb4%7C84df9e7fe9f640afb435aaaaaaaaaaaa
%7C1%7C0%7C636947689421692737&sdata=5UZIB1u3TD1Hfu1haziwHfMpo0LNH5B
tVE0GcUca%2Bhk%3D&reserved=0
We will be enjoying a scenic drive through the twisties and a brunch
at
the idyllic mountain home of Marcus and Irene Smith. See the flyer
in
the newsletter with all the info.
Looking forward to seeing everyone there! I've heard from several
people who haven't attend a Fun Rally in years who are planning on
attending this one. If people are on the fence, it's never too late
to
sign up. See you there!
Mike
Sent from my iPad
On May 29, 2019, at 10:22, Curt Hall <[4]cuvee at sbcglobal.net> wrote:
Getting close to the Reno Event...Haven't heard much if any one from
Capital Panteras or the PCNC are heading to Reno? If so, what Route
are
people taking? It would be nice to travel with the group.
If anyone has more info Please let me know.
Thank Curt Hall
References
1. [285]mailto:cuvee at sbcglobal.net
2. [286]mailto:MikeLDrew at aol.com
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Message: 31
Date: Wed, 29 May 2019 23:22:02 +0000 (UTC)
From: Curt Hall <cuvee at sbcglobal.net>
To: Mike Drew <MikeLDrew at aol.com>
Cc: Detomaso Email List <detomaso at detomasolist.com>, Peter Kovacs
<peter-kovacs at sbcglobal.net>
Subject: Re: [DeTomaso] Reno Fun Rally
Message-ID: <1328906931.6484887.1559172123011 at mail.yahoo.com>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8"
No Problems Mike...
Just thought if Your going to hit 99 and 88 We all could run together,
just need a approximate time? If You take a different Route We'll see
Ya there.
Curt On Wednesday, May 29, 2019, 3:29:12 PM PDT, Mike Drew
<MikeLDrew at aol.com> wrote:
Curt,
Mea Dumbass.?
I forgot that we sent the flyer directly to PCNC members but it wasn?t
in last month?s newsletter. It is in this month?s newsletter which I am
screwing together now (just got home a few hours ago from a six day
Pantera Rally in Ontario and Quebec....)
So, me es stupido.?
I will have the newsletter done in 5-6 more hours and post it to the
site, so the link I sent out today will be valid for these purposes
tomorrow. Sorry about the confusion.?
And yes, the BBQ is at the Smith?s house off Hwy 88 in Pine Grove, and
we will then take 88 to 395 to Reno.
See you There!
Oh, and here?s one pic from the Canada rally...Fred and Nancy Phillips
in Mark Charlton?s Longchamp GTS (out of gas...) and Lori in Fred?s
1982 GT5 (which got a much needed carb change later in the day....)
Wheeee!!!
Mike
Sent from my iPad
On May 29, 2019, at 13:44, Curt Hall <cuvee at sbcglobal.net> wrote:
Hey Mike...
I'm going and Peter may go to the Smith's house but not to Reno. Mark
and Cindy are leaving on Thursday.Are You going up 88 if so We can meet
up some place along 88? I've made contact with Larry Finch so Us three
could meet up with the Group. Unless You take a different Route??
Curt
On Wednesday, May 29, 2019, 1:13:33 PM PDT, Mike Drew
<MikeLDrew at aol.com> wrote:
Curt,
All you need to do is read the PCNC newsletter (which is free for all
to read). ?
[290]https://nam02.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=http%3A%2F%2Fw
ww.panteraclubnorcal.org%2Fg---current-pcnc-newsletter&data=02%7C01
%7C%7C347b4c77f7db44b29ef008d6e48c7eb4%7C84df9e7fe9f640afb435aaaaaaaaaa
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5BtVE0GcUca%2Bhk%3D&reserved=0
We will be enjoying a scenic drive through the twisties and a brunch at
the idyllic mountain home of Marcus and Irene Smith. See the flyer in
the newsletter with all the info.
Looking forward to seeing everyone there! I?ve heard from several
people who haven?t attend a Fun Rally in years who are planning on
attending this one. ?If people are on the fence, it?s never too late to
sign up. See you there!
Mike?
Sent from my iPad
On May 29, 2019, at 10:22, Curt Hall <cuvee at sbcglobal.net> wrote:
Getting close to the Reno Event...Haven't heard much if any one from
Capital Panteras or the PCNC are heading to Reno? If so, what Route are
people taking? It would be nice to travel with the group.
If anyone has more info Please let me know.
Thank Curt Hall
-------------- next part --------------
No Problems Mike...
Just thought if Your going to hit 99 and 88 We all could run
together,
just need a approximate time? If You take a different Route We'll
see
Ya there.
Curt
On Wednesday, May 29, 2019, 3:29:12 PM PDT, Mike Drew
<MikeLDrew at aol.com> wrote:
Curt,
Mea Dumbass.
I forgot that we sent the flyer directly to PCNC members but it
wasnat
in last monthas newsletter. It is in this monthas newsletter which I
am
screwing together now (just got home a few hours ago from a six day
Pantera Rally in Ontario and Quebec....)
So, me es stupido.
I will have the newsletter done in 5-6 more hours and post it to the
site, so the link I sent out today will be valid for these purposes
tomorrow. Sorry about the confusion.
And yes, the BBQ is at the Smithas house off Hwy 88 in Pine Grove,
and
we will then take 88 to 395 to Reno.
See you There!
Oh, and hereas one pic from the Canada rally...Fred and Nancy
Phillips
in Mark Charltonas Longchamp GTS (out of gas...) and Lori in Fredas
1982 GT5 (which got a much needed carb change later in the day....)
image1.jpeg
Wheeee!!!
Mike
Sent from my iPad
On May 29, 2019, at 13:44, Curt Hall <[1]cuvee at sbcglobal.net> wrote:
Hey Mike...
I'm going and Peter may go to the Smith's house but not to Reno.
Mark
and Cindy are leaving on Thursday.
Are You going up 88 if so We can meet up some place along 88? I've
made
contact with Larry Finch so Us three could meet up with the Group.
Unless You take a different Route?
Curt
On Wednesday, May 29, 2019, 1:13:33 PM PDT, Mike Drew
<[2]MikeLDrew at aol.com> wrote:
Curt,
All you need to do is read the PCNC newsletter (which is free for
all
to read).
[3]https://nam02.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=http%3A%2F%2Fwww
.panteraclubnorcal.org%2Fg---current-pcnc-newsletter&data=02%7C01%7
C%7C347b4c77f7db44b29ef008d6e48c7eb4%7C84df9e7fe9f640afb435aaaaaaaaaaaa
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tVE0GcUca%2Bhk%3D&reserved=0
We will be enjoying a scenic drive through the twisties and a brunch
at
the idyllic mountain home of Marcus and Irene Smith. See the flyer
in
the newsletter with all the info.
Looking forward to seeing everyone there! Iave heard from several
people who havenat attend a Fun Rally in years who are planning on
attending this one. If people are on the fence, itas never too late
to
sign up. See you there!
Mike
Sent from my iPad
On May 29, 2019, at 10:22, Curt Hall <[4]cuvee at sbcglobal.net> wrote:
Getting close to the Reno Event...Haven't heard much if any one from
Capital Panteras or the PCNC are heading to Reno? If so, what Route
are
people taking? It would be nice to travel with the group.
If anyone has more info Please let me know.
Thank Curt Hall
References
1. [291]mailto:cuvee at sbcglobal.net
2. [292]mailto:MikeLDrew at aol.com
3.
[293]https://nam02.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=http%3A%2F%2Fw
ww.panteraclubnorcal.org%2Fg---current-pcnc-newsletter&data=02%7C01
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