[DeTomaso] New Fuel Injection recommendations
Jeff Detrich
jjdetrich at gmail.com
Sat Dec 21 12:22:08 EST 2019
Interesting article that I've not seen before. FI for Pantera in Hot Rod
Magazine. 2017.
https://www.hotrod.com/articles/installing-a-fast-ez-efi-and-ingleses-8v-induction-system-on-a-351-cleveland/
On Fri, Dec 20, 2019 at 5:37 PM billmoore6480 <billmoore6480 at gmail.com>
wrote:
> Ken, or you could install a 750 DP
>
>
>
> Cheers
> Bill Moore
> Calgary
> 4038604300
>
> -------- Original message --------
> From: Ken Green via DeTomaso <detomaso at server.detomasolist.com>
> Date: 12/20/19 4:33 PM (GMT-07:00)
> To: Julian Kift <julian_kift at hotmail.com>, Jeff Detrich <
> jjdetrich at gmail.com>
> Cc: detomaso at server.detomasolist.com, Mike 01Ditucci <ditucci at att.net>
> Subject: Re: [DeTomaso] New Fuel Injection recommendations
>
> You can go here and download the free FAST XFI C-COM 2.0 software:
> https://www.fuelairspark.com/software-downloads
> If you install it, you can go to:
> HELP: INDEX
> and get a massive amount of information.
> You can connect the ECU to the internet and use remote turning services so
> you don't need to rely on local support to fix issues, and it is suppose to
> be self learning. There is a Facebook group and the Comp Cams FAST forum:
> http://www.cpgnation.com/forum/forums/fast-support-forum.235/
>
>
>
> Still installing, so no personal experience.
> Some people like the Holley system better so you might want to look into
> it.
>
> Ken
>
>
>
> On Friday, December 20, 2019, 2:50:35 PM PST, Jeff Detrich <
> jjdetrich at gmail.com> wrote:
>
> Thanks fur responding Julian. My car starts and runs, but not great. My
> Electromotive TEC3a doesn't have a workable idle control valve circuit
> which I need with a Holley style throttle body - we've tuned around
> that problem but still not very good, still uses an old PC serial
> connection, requires experts to program and modify (which don't exist
> here in Dallas), and their support was horrible until I just gave up. I
> needA something that is reliable, supportable and supported here. I'm
> tired of apologizing for it. I do realize that a new system will not be
> as flexible and controllable as the TEC3a but I've had it for 13 years
> and it's the same old same old. I'm generalizing here but guys with the
> new systems just plug it in and it goes.A
> I know you've recommended FAST in the past and I will look at them to
> see if they are self learning. My recollection of it from 10 years ago
> is that is similar to the TEC3a but I'm not sure if it has been redone
> into a more modern system?
> Jeff
>
> On Fri, Dec 20, 2019 at 4:15 PM Julian Kift
> <[1]julian_kift at hotmail.com> wrote:
>
> Why? What benefits are you expecting over those the Electromotive ECU
> can't offer?
> Julian
> __________________________________________________________________
>
> From: DeTomaso <[2]detomaso-bounces at server.detomasolist.com> on behalf
> of Jeff Detrich <[3]jjdetrich at gmail.com>
> Sent: Friday, December 20, 2019 2:07 PM
> To: [4]detomaso at server.detomasolist.com
> <[5]detomaso at server.detomasolist.com>
> Cc: Mike 01Ditucci <[6]ditucci at att.net>
> Subject: [DeTomaso] New Fuel Injection recommendations
> A
> I'm finally going to upgrade to a new FI system. Car goes in to our
> local
> Pantera guru, Mike Ditucci, next week.
> I'm currently using an Electromotive system with a single Holley style
> throttle body and sequential injection at each inlet valve. I would
> like to
> keep that setup but upgrade to new well supported system that runs
> autonomously, ie, self learning.
> Would appreciate any recommendations, thanks.
> Happy Holidays,
> Jeff Detrich
> 6559
>
> References
>
> 1. mailto:julian_kift at hotmail.com
> 2. mailto:detomaso-bounces at server.detomasolist.com
> 3. mailto:jjdetrich at gmail.com
> 4. mailto:detomaso at server.detomasolist.com
> 5. mailto:detomaso at server.detomasolist.com
> 6. mailto:ditucci at att.net
> _______________________________________________
>
>
> Detomaso Email List is not managed by POCA
> Posted emails must not exceed 1.5 Megabytes
> DeTomaso mailing list
> DeTomaso at server.detomasolist.com
> http://server.detomasolist.com/mailman/listinfo/detomaso
>
> To manage your subscription (change email address, unsubscribe, etc.) use
> the links above.
>
> Members who post to this list grant license to the list to forward any
> message posted here to all past, current, or future members of the list.
> They also grant the list owner permission to maintain an archive or approve
> the archiving of list messages.
> You can go here and download the free FAST XFI C-COM 2.0 software:
> [1]https://www.fuelairspark.com/software-downloads
>
> If you install it, you can go to:
> HELP:
> INDEX
> and get a massive amount of information.
> You can connect the ECU to the internet and use remote turning services
> so you don't need to rely on local support to fix issues, and it is
> suppose to be self learning. There is a Facebook group and the Comp
> Cams FAST forum:
> [2]http://www.cpgnation.com/forum/forums/fast-support-forum.235/
> Still installing, so no personal experience.
> Some people like the Holley system better so you might want to look
> into it.
> Ken
>
> On Friday, December 20, 2019, 2:50:35 PM PST, Jeff Detrich
> <jjdetrich at gmail.com> wrote:
> Thanks fur responding Julian. My car starts and runs, but not great.
> My
> Electromotive TEC3a doesn't have a workable idle control valve
> circuit
> which I need with a Holley style throttle body - we've tuned around
> that problem but still not very good, still uses an old PC serial
> connection, requires experts to program and modify (which don't exist
> here in Dallas), and their support was horrible until I just gave up.
> I
> needA something that is reliable, supportable and supported here. I'm
> tired of apologizing for it. I do realize that a new system will not
> be
> as flexible and controllable as the TEC3a but I've had it for 13
> years
> and it's the same old same old. I'm generalizing here but guys with
> the
> new systems just plug it in and it goes.A
> I know you've recommended FAST in the past and I will look at them to
> see if they are self learning. My recollection of it from 10 years
> ago
> is that is similar to the TEC3a but I'm not sure if it has been
> redone
> into a more modern system?
> Jeff
> On Fri, Dec 20, 2019 at 4:15 PM Julian Kift
> <[1][3]julian_kift at hotmail.com> wrote:
> Why? What benefits are you expecting over those the Electromotive ECU
> can't offer?
> Julian
> __________________________________________________________________
> From: DeTomaso <[2][4]detomaso-bounces at server.detomasolist.com> on
> behalf
> of Jeff Detrich <[3][5]jjdetrich at gmail.com>
> Sent: Friday, December 20, 2019 2:07 PM
> To: [4][6]detomaso at server.detomasolist.com
> <[5][7]detomaso at server.detomasolist.com>
> Cc: Mike 01Ditucci <[6][8]ditucci at att.net>
> Subject: [DeTomaso] New Fuel Injection recommendations
> A
> I'm finally going to upgrade to a new FI system. Car goes in to our
> local
> Pantera guru, Mike Ditucci, next week.
> I'm currently using an Electromotive system with a single Holley
> style
> throttle body and sequential injection at each inlet valve. I would
> like to
> keep that setup but upgrade to new well supported system that runs
> autonomously, ie, self learning.
> Would appreciate any recommendations, thanks.
> Happy Holidays,
> Jeff Detrich
> 6559
> References
> 1. mailto:[9]julian_kift at hotmail.com
> 2. mailto:[10]detomaso-bounces at server.detomasolist.com
> 3. mailto:[11]jjdetrich at gmail.com
> 4. mailto:[12]detomaso at server.detomasolist.com
> 5. mailto:[13]detomaso at server.detomasolist.com
> 6. mailto:[14]ditucci at att.net
> _______________________________________________
> Detomaso Email List is not managed by POCA
> Posted emails must not exceed 1.5 Megabytes
> DeTomaso mailing list
> [15]DeTomaso at server.detomasolist.com
> [16]http://server.detomasolist.com/mailman/listinfo/detomaso
> To manage your subscription (change email address, unsubscribe, etc.)
> use the links above.
> Members who post to this list grant license to the list to forward any
> message posted here to all past, current, or future members of the
> list. They also grant the list owner permission to maintain an archive
> or approve the archiving of list messages.
>
> References
>
> 1. https://www.fuelairspark.com/software-downloads
> 2. http://www.cpgnation.com/forum/forums/fast-support-forum.235/
> 3. mailto:julian_kift at hotmail.com
> 4. mailto:detomaso-bounces at server.detomasolist.com
> 5. mailto:jjdetrich at gmail.com
> 6. mailto:detomaso at server.detomasolist.com
> 7. mailto:detomaso at server.detomasolist.com
> 8. mailto:ditucci at att.net
> 9. mailto:julian_kift at hotmail.com
> 10. mailto:detomaso-bounces at server.detomasolist.com
> 11. mailto:jjdetrich at gmail.com
> 12. mailto:detomaso at server.detomasolist.com
> 13. mailto:detomaso at server.detomasolist.com
> 14. mailto:ditucci at att.net
> 15. mailto:DeTomaso at server.detomasolist.com
> 16. http://server.detomasolist.com/mailman/listinfo/detomaso
>
> _______________________________________________
>
>
> Detomaso Email List is not managed by POCA
> Posted emails must not exceed 1.5 Megabytes
> DeTomaso mailing list
> DeTomaso at server.detomasolist.com
> http://server.detomasolist.com/mailman/listinfo/detomaso
>
> To manage your subscription (change email address, unsubscribe, etc.) use
> the links above.
>
> Members who post to this list grant license to the list to forward any
> message posted here to all past, current, or future members of the list.
> They also grant the list owner permission to maintain an archive or approve
> the archiving of list messages.
>
-------------- next part --------------
Interesting article that I've not seen before. FI for Pantera in Hot
Rod Magazine. 2017.
[1]https://www.hotrod.com/articles/installing-a-fast-ez-efi-and-inglese
s-8v-induction-system-on-a-351-cleveland/
On Fri, Dec 20, 2019 at 5:37 PM billmoore6480
<[2]billmoore6480 at gmail.com> wrote:
Ken, or you could install a 750 DP
Cheers
Bill Moore
Calgary
4038604300
-------- Original message --------
From: Ken Green via DeTomaso <[3]detomaso at server.detomasolist.com>
Date: 12/20/19 4:33 PM (GMT-07:00)
To: Julian Kift <[4]julian_kift at hotmail.com>, Jeff Detrich
<[5]jjdetrich at gmail.com>
Cc: [6]detomaso at server.detomasolist.com, Mike 01Ditucci
<[7]ditucci at att.net>
Subject: Re: [DeTomaso] New Fuel Injection recommendations
You can go here and download the free FAST XFI C-COM 2.0 software:
[8]https://www.fuelairspark.com/software-downloads
If you install it, you can go to:
HELP:A A A A A A A INDEX
and get a massive amount of information.
You can connect the ECU to the internet and use remote turning services
so you don't need to rely on local support to fix issues, and it is
suppose to be self learning.A There is a Facebook group and the Comp
Cams FAST forum:
[9]http://www.cpgnation.com/forum/forums/fast-support-forum.235/
Still installing, so no personal experience.
Some people like the Holley system better so you might want to look
into it.
Ken
A A A On Friday, December 20, 2019, 2:50:35 PM PST, Jeff Detrich
<[10]jjdetrich at gmail.com> wrote:A
A Thanks fur responding Julian. My car starts and runs, but not great.
My
A Electromotive TEC3a doesn't have a workable idle control valve
circuit
A which I need with a Holley style throttle body - we've tuned around
A that problem but still not very good, still uses an old PC serial
A connection, requires experts to program and modify (which don't
exist
A here in Dallas), and their support was horrible until I just gave
up. I
A needA something that is reliable, supportable and supported here.
I'm
A tired of apologizing for it. I do realize that a new system will not
be
A as flexible and controllable as the TEC3a but I've had it for 13
years
A and it's the same old same old. I'm generalizing here but guys with
the
A new systems just plug it in and it goes.A
A I know you've recommended FAST in the past and I will look at them
to
A see if they are self learning. My recollection of it from 10 years
ago
A is that is similar to the TEC3a but I'm not sure if it has been
redone
A into a more modern system?
A Jeff
A On Fri, Dec 20, 2019 at 4:15 PM Julian Kift
A <[1][11]julian_kift at hotmail.com> wrote:
A Why? What benefits are you expecting over those the Electromotive
ECU
A can't offer?
A Julian
A A
__________________________________________________________________
A From: DeTomaso <[2][12]detomaso-bounces at server.detomasolist.com> on
behalf
A of Jeff Detrich <[3][13]jjdetrich at gmail.com>
A Sent: Friday, December 20, 2019 2:07 PM
A To: [4][14]detomaso at server.detomasolist.com
A <[5][15]detomaso at server.detomasolist.com>
A Cc: Mike 01Ditucci <[6][16]ditucci at att.net>
A Subject: [DeTomaso] New Fuel Injection recommendations
A A
A I'm finally going to upgrade to a new FI system. Car goes in to our
A local
A Pantera guru, Mike Ditucci, next week.
A I'm currently using an Electromotive system with a single Holley
style
A throttle body and sequential injection at each inlet valve. I would
A like to
A keep that setup but upgrade to new well supported system that runs
A autonomously, ie, self learning.
A Would appreciate any recommendations, thanks.
A Happy Holidays,
A Jeff Detrich
A 6559
References
A 1. mailto:[17]julian_kift at hotmail.com
A 2. mailto:[18]detomaso-bounces at server.detomasolist.com
A 3. mailto:[19]jjdetrich at gmail.com
A 4. mailto:[20]detomaso at server.detomasolist.com
A 5. mailto:[21]detomaso at server.detomasolist.com
A 6. mailto:[22]ditucci at att.net
_______________________________________________
Detomaso Email List is not managed by POCA
Posted emails must not exceed 1.5 Megabytes
DeTomaso mailing list
[23]DeTomaso at server.detomasolist.com
[24]http://server.detomasolist.com/mailman/listinfo/detomaso
To manage your subscription (change email address, unsubscribe, etc.)
use the links above.
Members who post to this list grant license to the list to forward any
message posted here to all past, current, or future members of the
list. They also grant the list owner permission to maintain an archive
or approve the archiving of list messages.A
A A You can go here and download the free FAST XFI C-COM 2.0 software:
A A [1][25]https://www.fuelairspark.com/software-downloads
A A If you install it, you can go to:
A A HELP:
A A A A A A A A A A INDEX
A A and get a massive amount of information.
A A You can connect the ECU to the internet and use remote turning
services
A A so you don't need to rely on local support to fix issues, and it
is
A A suppose to be self learning.A There is a Facebook group and the
Comp
A A Cams FAST forum:
A A
[2][26]http://www.cpgnation.com/forum/forums/fast-support-forum.235/
A A Still installing, so no personal experience.
A A Some people like the Holley system better so you might want to
look
A A into it.
A A Ken
A A On Friday, December 20, 2019, 2:50:35 PM PST, Jeff Detrich
A A <[27]jjdetrich at gmail.com> wrote:
A A A A Thanks fur responding Julian. My car starts and runs, but not
great.
A A My
A A A A Electromotive TEC3a doesn't have a workable idle control valve
A A circuit
A A A A which I need with a Holley style throttle body - we've tuned
around
A A A A that problem but still not very good, still uses an old PC
serial
A A A A connection, requires experts to program and modify (which
don't exist
A A A A here in Dallas), and their support was horrible until I just
gave up.
A A I
A A A A needA something that is reliable, supportable and supported
here. I'm
A A A A tired of apologizing for it. I do realize that a new system
will not
A A be
A A A A as flexible and controllable as the TEC3a but I've had it for
13
A A years
A A A A and it's the same old same old. I'm generalizing here but guys
with
A A the
A A A A new systems just plug it in and it goes.A
A A A A I know you've recommended FAST in the past and I will look at
them to
A A A A see if they are self learning. My recollection of it from 10
years
A A ago
A A A A is that is similar to the TEC3a but I'm not sure if it has
been
A A redone
A A A A into a more modern system?
A A A A Jeff
A A A A On Fri, Dec 20, 2019 at 4:15 PM Julian Kift
A A A A <[1][3][28]julian_kift at hotmail.com> wrote:
A A A A Why? What benefits are you expecting over those the
Electromotive ECU
A A A A can't offer?
A A A A Julian
A A A A A A
__________________________________________________________________
A A A A From: DeTomaso
<[2][4][29]detomaso-bounces at server.detomasolist.com> on
A A behalf
A A A A of Jeff Detrich <[3][5][30]jjdetrich at gmail.com>
A A A A Sent: Friday, December 20, 2019 2:07 PM
A A A A To: [4][6][31]detomaso at server.detomasolist.com
A A A A <[5][7][32]detomaso at server.detomasolist.com>
A A A A Cc: Mike 01Ditucci <[6][8][33]ditucci at att.net>
A A A A Subject: [DeTomaso] New Fuel Injection recommendations
A A A A A
A A A A I'm finally going to upgrade to a new FI system. Car goes in
to our
A A A A local
A A A A Pantera guru, Mike Ditucci, next week.
A A A A I'm currently using an Electromotive system with a single
Holley
A A style
A A A A throttle body and sequential injection at each inlet valve. I
would
A A A A like to
A A A A keep that setup but upgrade to new well supported system that
runs
A A A A autonomously, ie, self learning.
A A A A Would appreciate any recommendations, thanks.
A A A A Happy Holidays,
A A A A Jeff Detrich
A A A A 6559
A A References
A A A A 1. mailto:[9][34]julian_kift at hotmail.com
A A A A 2. mailto:[10][35]detomaso-bounces at server.detomasolist.com
A A A A 3. mailto:[11][36]jjdetrich at gmail.com
A A A A 4. mailto:[12][37]detomaso at server.detomasolist.com
A A A A 5. mailto:[13][38]detomaso at server.detomasolist.com
A A A A 6. mailto:[14][39]ditucci at att.net
A A _______________________________________________
A A Detomaso Email List is not managed by POCA
A A Posted emails must not exceed 1.5 Megabytes
A A DeTomaso mailing list
A A [15][40]DeTomaso at server.detomasolist.com
A A [16][41]http://server.detomasolist.com/mailman/listinfo/detomaso
A A To manage your subscription (change email address, unsubscribe,
etc.)
A A use the links above.
A A Members who post to this list grant license to the list to forward
any
A A message posted here to all past, current, or future members of the
A A list. They also grant the list owner permission to maintain an
archive
A A or approve the archiving of list messages.
References
A A 1. [42]https://www.fuelairspark.com/software-downloads
A A 2.
[43]http://www.cpgnation.com/forum/forums/fast-support-forum.235/
A A 3. mailto:[44]julian_kift at hotmail.com
A A 4. mailto:[45]detomaso-bounces at server.detomasolist.com
A A 5. mailto:[46]jjdetrich at gmail.com
A A 6. mailto:[47]detomaso at server.detomasolist.com
A A 7. mailto:[48]detomaso at server.detomasolist.com
A A 8. mailto:[49]ditucci at att.net
A A 9. mailto:[50]julian_kift at hotmail.com
A 10. mailto:[51]detomaso-bounces at server.detomasolist.com
A 11. mailto:[52]jjdetrich at gmail.com
A 12. mailto:[53]detomaso at server.detomasolist.com
A 13. mailto:[54]detomaso at server.detomasolist.com
A 14. mailto:[55]ditucci at att.net
A 15. mailto:[56]DeTomaso at server.detomasolist.com
A 16. [57]http://server.detomasolist.com/mailman/listinfo/detomaso
_______________________________________________
Detomaso Email List is not managed by POCA
Posted emails must not exceed 1.5 Megabytes
DeTomaso mailing list
[58]DeTomaso at server.detomasolist.com
[59]http://server.detomasolist.com/mailman/listinfo/detomaso
To manage your subscription (change email address, unsubscribe, etc.)
use the links above.
Members who post to this list grant license to the list to forward any
message posted here to all past, current, or future members of the
list. They also grant the list owner permission to maintain an archive
or approve the archiving of list messages.
References
1. https://www.hotrod.com/articles/installing-a-fast-ez-efi-and-ingleses-8v-induction-system-on-a-351-cleveland/
2. mailto:billmoore6480 at gmail.com
3. mailto:detomaso at server.detomasolist.com
4. mailto:julian_kift at hotmail.com
5. mailto:jjdetrich at gmail.com
6. mailto:detomaso at server.detomasolist.com
7. mailto:ditucci at att.net
8. https://www.fuelairspark.com/software-downloads
9. http://www.cpgnation.com/forum/forums/fast-support-forum.235/
10. mailto:jjdetrich at gmail.com
11. mailto:julian_kift at hotmail.com
12. mailto:detomaso-bounces at server.detomasolist.com
13. mailto:jjdetrich at gmail.com
14. mailto:detomaso at server.detomasolist.com
15. mailto:detomaso at server.detomasolist.com
16. mailto:ditucci at att.net
17. mailto:julian_kift at hotmail.com
18. mailto:detomaso-bounces at server.detomasolist.com
19. mailto:jjdetrich at gmail.com
20. mailto:detomaso at server.detomasolist.com
21. mailto:detomaso at server.detomasolist.com
22. mailto:ditucci at att.net
23. mailto:DeTomaso at server.detomasolist.com
24. http://server.detomasolist.com/mailman/listinfo/detomaso
25. https://www.fuelairspark.com/software-downloads
26. http://www.cpgnation.com/forum/forums/fast-support-forum.235/
27. mailto:jjdetrich at gmail.com
28. mailto:julian_kift at hotmail.com
29. mailto:detomaso-bounces at server.detomasolist.com
30. mailto:jjdetrich at gmail.com
31. mailto:detomaso at server.detomasolist.com
32. mailto:detomaso at server.detomasolist.com
33. mailto:ditucci at att.net
34. mailto:julian_kift at hotmail.com
35. mailto:detomaso-bounces at server.detomasolist.com
36. mailto:jjdetrich at gmail.com
37. mailto:detomaso at server.detomasolist.com
38. mailto:detomaso at server.detomasolist.com
39. mailto:ditucci at att.net
40. mailto:DeTomaso at server.detomasolist.com
41. http://server.detomasolist.com/mailman/listinfo/detomaso
42. https://www.fuelairspark.com/software-downloads
43. http://www.cpgnation.com/forum/forums/fast-support-forum.235/
44. mailto:julian_kift at hotmail.com
45. mailto:detomaso-bounces at server.detomasolist.com
46. mailto:jjdetrich at gmail.com
47. mailto:detomaso at server.detomasolist.com
48. mailto:detomaso at server.detomasolist.com
49. mailto:ditucci at att.net
50. mailto:julian_kift at hotmail.com
51. mailto:detomaso-bounces at server.detomasolist.com
52. mailto:jjdetrich at gmail.com
53. mailto:detomaso at server.detomasolist.com
54. mailto:detomaso at server.detomasolist.com
55. mailto:ditucci at att.net
56. mailto:DeTomaso at server.detomasolist.com
57. http://server.detomasolist.com/mailman/listinfo/detomaso
58. mailto:DeTomaso at server.detomasolist.com
59. http://server.detomasolist.com/mailman/listinfo/detomaso
More information about the DeTomaso
mailing list