[DeTomaso] Window Motor Upgrade
jderyke at aol.com
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Fri Aug 16 15:19:36 EDT 2019
FWIW, Ted told me a good part of the 'profit' is in buying the factory hydraulic cable crimper so as to reliably shorten the donor car's too-long drive cable length and still have a 'factory-dependable' connection. The kit included new window guides, all-stainless hardware and plug-&-play electrics to stock door looms. It's also 8 lbs off each door's weight and runs the glass all the way down a measured 3X faster, without strain. Got mine at full price over 15 years ago and no problems yet. No regrets, either. J DeRyke
Rick Mitchell is still selling them.
I paid the same. Having seen both stock and the Vader units, I was sold. So smooth and fast comparatively speaking. Plus, you don't have to spend lots of time filing, grinding and modifying the stock regulator and window assembly to go all the way down.
It is pricey. Kirk Evans told me how much profit margin he thought there is in the kits, yet not critical of the actual product.
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From: Corey Price <coreyjprice at gmail.com>
To: Julian Kift <julian_kift at hotmail.com>
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Sent: Thu, Aug 15, 2019 8:36 pm
Subject: Re: [DeTomaso] Window Motor Upgrade
Rick Mitchell is still selling them.
I paid the same. Having seen both stock and the Vader units, I was sold. So smooth and fast comparatively speaking. Plus, you don't have to spend lots of time filing, grinding and modifying the stock regulator and window assembly to go all the way down.
It is pricey. Kirk Evans told me how much profit margin he thought there is in the kits, yet not critical of the actual product.
Corey
> On Aug 15, 2019, at 9:27 PM, Julian Kift <julian_kift at hotmail.com> wrote:
>
> They are still that price from Vader and a quality bolt on upgrade. All I’m saying is they are not hard to reverse engineer if one is so inclined and able to execute some fabrication work.
>
> Julian
>
>> On Aug 15, 2019, at 20:23, Richard Greenblum <richard at richardgreenblum.com> wrote:
>>
>> I must have bought at the wrong time—I think I paid about $750 for the full setup.
>>
>> Richard
>> Austin, TX
>>
>> Sent from my iPhone
>>
>>> On Aug 15, 2019, at 21:49, Julian Kift <julian_kift at hotmail.com> wrote:
>>>
>>> His son was advertising them on the PI Forum a little while back. The unit is a fairly standard one that if I recall correctly can be had for ~$40 a side and then some minimal fab work required if you are so inclined.
>>>
>>> Julian
>>>
>>>> On Aug 15, 2019, at 19:46, Richard Greenblum <richard at richardgreenblum.com> wrote:
>>>>
>>>> I don’t know if Ted’s Vader products are still available, but I went with his window units years ago. They are as good as advertised. Fast and powerful.
>>>>
>>>> Richard
>>>> Austin, TX
>>>>
>>>> Sent from my iPhone
>>>>
>>>>> On Aug 15, 2019, at 21:28, wayne boian <wayneboian at windstream.net> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>> Thinking about doing that my self. That project has moved up on my to-do list. Looking forward to see comments from others.
>>>>>
>>>>> Wayne in KY
>>>>>
>>>>>> On 8/15/2019 10:22 PM, Sean Keane wrote:
>>>>>> Hi,
>>>>>>
>>>>>> I'd like to upgrade my Pantera window motors, and don't know whether to go the Windstar route or the Taurus route. What are the pros and cons of each? Does anyone sell a kit so that I can be sure that I'll get the correct motors (four lug vs. three lug for Aerostar, etc.) Thank for any help!
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Best Regards,
>>>>>>
>>>>>> J. Sean Keane
>>>>>>
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FWIW, Ted told me a good part of the 'profit' is in buying the factory
hydraulic cable crimper so as to reliably shorten the donor car's
too-long drive cable length and still have a 'factory-dependable'
connection. The kit included new window guides, all-stainless hardware
and plug-&-play electrics to stock door looms. It's also 8 lbs off each
door's weight and runs the glass all the way down a measured 3X faster,
without strain. Got mine at full price over 15 years ago and no
problems yet. No regrets, either. J DeRyke
Rick Mitchell is still selling them.
I paid the same. Having seen both stock and the Vader units, I was
sold. So smooth and fast comparatively speaking. Plus, you don't
have to spend lots of time filing, grinding and modifying the stock
regulator and window assembly to go all the way down.
It is pricey. Kirk Evans told me how much profit margin he thought
there is in the kits, yet not critical of the actual product.
-----Original Message-----
From: Corey Price <coreyjprice at gmail.com>
To: Julian Kift <julian_kift at hotmail.com>
Cc: Detomaso List <detomaso at server.detomasolist.com>
Sent: Thu, Aug 15, 2019 8:36 pm
Subject: Re: [DeTomaso] Window Motor Upgrade
Rick Mitchell is still selling them.
I paid the same. Having seen both stock and the Vader units, I was
sold. So smooth and fast comparatively speaking. Plus, you don't have
to spend lots of time filing, grinding and modifying the stock
regulator and window assembly to go all the way down.
It is pricey. Kirk Evans told me how much profit margin he thought
there is in the kits, yet not critical of the actual product.
Corey
> On Aug 15, 2019, at 9:27 PM, Julian Kift <[1]julian_kift at hotmail.com>
wrote:
>
> They are still that price from Vader and a quality bolt on upgrade.
All Iam saying is they are not hard to reverse engineer if one is so
inclined and able to execute some fabrication work.
>
> Julian
>
>> On Aug 15, 2019, at 20:23, Richard Greenblum
<[2]richard at richardgreenblum.com> wrote:
>>
>> I must have bought at the wrong timeaI think I paid about $750 for
the full setup.
>>
>> Richard
>> Austin, TX
>>
>> Sent from my iPhone
>>
>>> On Aug 15, 2019, at 21:49, Julian Kift <[3]julian_kift at hotmail.com>
wrote:
>>>
>>> His son was advertising them on the PI Forum a little while back.
The unit is a fairly standard one that if I recall correctly can be had
for ~$40 a side and then some minimal fab work required if you are so
inclined.
>>>
>>> Julian
>>>
>>>> On Aug 15, 2019, at 19:46, Richard Greenblum
<[4]richard at richardgreenblum.com> wrote:
>>>>
>>>> I donat know if Tedas Vader products are still available, but I
went with his window units years ago. They are as good as advertised.
Fast and powerful.
>>>>
>>>> Richard
>>>> Austin, TX
>>>>
>>>> Sent from my iPhone
>>>>
>>>>> On Aug 15, 2019, at 21:28, wayne boian
<[5]wayneboian at windstream.net> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>> Thinking about doing that my self. That project has moved up on
my to-do list. Looking forward to see comments from others.
>>>>>
>>>>> Wayne in KY
>>>>>
>>>>>> On 8/15/2019 10:22 PM, Sean Keane wrote:
>>>>>> Hi,
>>>>>>
>>>>>> I'd like to upgrade my Pantera window motors, and don't know
whether to go the Windstar route or the Taurus route. What are the pros
and cons of each? Does anyone sell a kit so that I can be sure that
I'll get the correct motors (four lug vs. three lug for Aerostar, etc.)
Thank for any help!
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Best Regards,
>>>>>>
>>>>>> J. Sean Keane
>>>>>>
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