[DeTomaso] Air cleaner suggestions

Thu Aug 1 17:04:06 EDT 2019

Dear Jack,

                  So….Dave McLain recommends a one inch air filter spacer *above* the carb and not a one inch carb spacer?

                   I think I remember seeing that on the 351C forum by Brent Lykins about a year ago.

                                  Warmest regards,  Chuck Engles

From: jderyke at aol.com [mailto:jderyke at aol.com] 
Sent: Thursday, August 01, 2019 3:41 PM
To: cengles at cox.net; terry.himes at jpl.nasa.gov; panteratime at aol.com
Cc: detomaso at server.detomasolist.com
Subject: Re: [DeTomaso] Air cleaner suggestions

Coincidentally, the current POCA Newsletter includes a Tech tip by Dave McLain: compared on his dyno, a dogbone air cleaner was 'horrible' in airflow unless a 1" spacer was used. He also found a 2" spacer was even worse than no spacer at all. So the answer is, 'It depends" as air flow is not intuitive but needs a dyno to evaluate. 
FWIW- J Deryke

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From: Charles Engles <cengles at cox.net>
To: 'Himes, Terry (US 397C)' <terry.himes at jpl.nasa.gov>; 'Panteratime' <panteratime at aol.com>
Cc: 'P - Mail List' <detomaso at server.detomasolist.com>
Sent: Thu, Aug 1, 2019 8:01 am
Subject: Re: [DeTomaso] Air cleaner suggestions

Dear Fellow V8 Propulsion Scientist,

              IIRC, the Dog Bone was pronounced by some Houston dyno testing about ten years ago as permitting more HP than any of the other common air filters.  I was surprised.  Over the years, IIRC, further testing did not confirm the earlier results.  Is that the gist of it?

                              Warmest regards,  Chuck Engles

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From: DeTomaso [mailto:detomaso-bounces at server.detomasolist.com] On Behalf Of Himes, Terry (US 397C) via DeTomaso

Sent: Thursday, August 01, 2019 9:26 AM

To: Panteratime; detomaso at server.detomasolist.com

Subject: Re: [DeTomaso] [EXTERNAL] Air cleaner suggestions

I've always loved the look of the dog-bone. Some have tried to say it is restrictive, but testing has proven it is not!  

T.

"A Purple Heart proves you were smart enough to hatch a plan,  stupid enough to try it and lucky enough to survive!"

Terry W. Himes

JPL Jet Propulsion Laboratory

Deep Space Exploration – Mission Operations

Dawn Spacecraft Team

Juno Systems & Software Team

TGO Sequence Lead

Odyssey Sequence Team

Spitzer Space Telescope Data Team

Phone: (818) 393-6261

Cell:    (818) 653-8213

thimes at jpl.nasa.gov

🇺🇸

On 8/1/19, 6:00 AM, "DeTomaso on behalf of Panteratime via DeTomaso" <detomaso-bounces at server.detomasolist.com on behalf of detomaso at server.detomasolist.com> wrote:

    Folks,I currently have a Mr Gasket polished aluminum air cleaner that resembles a blower scoop!    It has a 6.5 inch round filter element.  I am assuming this filter that I have had on the car for years is restrictive and am looking for suggestions on alternatives.  Would like something polished aluminum, very unique, and nonrestrictive.  I do not have the engine screen on car so height is not a factor.  This air filter will go on the Road Demon carb.  I have an Edelbrock polished intake manifold.

    Any suggestions are greatly appreciated!  I love the look of this "blower" scoop sneaking out of the engine bay but maybe time for a change.  Thanks !  

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   Dear Jack,

                     So....Dave McLain recommends a one inch air filter
   spacer *above* the carb and not a one inch carb spacer?

                      I think I remember seeing that on the 351C forum by
   Brent Lykins about a year ago.

                                     Warmest regards,  Chuck Engles

   From: jderyke at aol.com [mailto:jderyke at aol.com]
   Sent: Thursday, August 01, 2019 3:41 PM
   To: cengles at cox.net; terry.himes at jpl.nasa.gov; panteratime at aol.com
   Cc: detomaso at server.detomasolist.com
   Subject: Re: [DeTomaso] Air cleaner suggestions

   Coincidentally, the current POCA Newsletter includes a Tech tip by Dave
   McLain: compared on his dyno, a dogbone air cleaner was 'horrible' in
   airflow unless a 1" spacer was used. He also found a 2" spacer was even
   worse than no spacer at all. So the answer is, 'It depends" as air flow
   is not intuitive but needs a dyno to evaluate.
   FWIW- J Deryke

   -----Original Message-----
   From: Charles Engles <cengles at cox.net>
   To: 'Himes, Terry (US 397C)' <terry.himes at jpl.nasa.gov>; 'Panteratime'
   <panteratime at aol.com>
   Cc: 'P - Mail List' <detomaso at server.detomasolist.com>
   Sent: Thu, Aug 1, 2019 8:01 am
   Subject: Re: [DeTomaso] Air cleaner suggestions

   Dear Fellow V8 Propulsion Scientist,

                 IIRC, the Dog Bone was pronounced by some Houston dyno
   testing about ten years ago as permitting more HP than any of the other
   common air filters.  I was surprised.  Over the years, IIRC, further
   testing did not confirm the earlier results.  Is that the gist of it?

                                 Warmest regards,  Chuck Engles

   -----Original Message-----

   From: DeTomaso [mailto:[1]detomaso-bounces at server.detomasolist.com] On
   Behalf Of Himes, Terry (US 397C) via DeTomaso

   Sent: Thursday, August 01, 2019 9:26 AM

   To: Panteratime; [2]detomaso at server.detomasolist.com

   Subject: Re: [DeTomaso] [EXTERNAL] Air cleaner suggestions

   I've always loved the look of the dog-bone. Some have tried to say it
   is restrictive, but testing has proven it is not!

   T.

   "A Purple Heart proves you were smart enough to hatch a plan,  stupid
   enough to try it and lucky enough to survive!"

   Terry W. Himes

   JPL Jet Propulsion Laboratory

   Deep Space Exploration - Mission Operations

   Dawn Spacecraft Team

   Juno Systems & Software Team

   TGO Sequence Lead

   Odyssey Sequence Team

   Spitzer Space Telescope Data Team

   Phone: (818) 393-6261

   Cell:    (818) 653-8213

   [3]thimes at jpl.nasa.gov

   🇺🇸

   On 8/1/19, 6:00 AM, "DeTomaso on behalf of Panteratime via DeTomaso"
   <[4]detomaso-bounces at server.detomasolist.com on behalf of
   [5]detomaso at server.detomasolist.com> wrote:

       Folks,I currently have a Mr Gasket polished aluminum air cleaner
   that resembles a blower scoop!    It has a 6.5 inch round filter
   element.  I am assuming this filter that I have had on the car for
   years is restrictive and am looking for suggestions on alternatives.
   Would like something polished aluminum, very unique, and
   nonrestrictive.  I do not have the engine screen on car so height is
   not a factor.  This air filter will go on the Road Demon carb.  I have
   an Edelbrock polished intake manifold.

       Any suggestions are greatly appreciated!  I love the look of this
   "blower" scoop sneaking out of the engine bay but maybe time for a
   change.  Thanks !

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