[DeTomaso] NPC NPC NPC Wondering how California banning fosil fuel in 27 years will impact the long term value of our cars?
Himes, Terry (397C)
Terry.Himes at jpl.nasa.gov
Wed Sep 19 10:23:59 EDT 2018
This reminds me of a practical joke we played on a friend of mine, Steve Carter.
I just hired Steve to work in my software company in Princeton, NJ. After a few
weeks he decided to buy a new car. He bought a used Saab 900 Turbo (yes, it was the 80s).
He bragged it was a great car and fuel efficient. So I went out and bought a bunch of gas
cans, filled them up and stored them in our maintenance shed behind the building.
Every week we would fill his tank with just enough for him to get great gas mileage, but
not enough to make him suspicious. After 2 months we was in heaven! He even wrote a
letter to the car manufacturer.
We convinced him that he should take us all out to Happy Hour and buy us beer with all the
money he is saving. (I only had 14 people at the time) He did. And after the 2nd round we
let him know exactly why he was getting such good gas mileage! Ha!
That began about 10 years of practical jokes. Those were the good 'ol days!!
Terry
"A Purple Heart proves you were smart enough to hatch a plan,
stupid enough to try it and lucky enough to survive!"
Terry W. Himes
JPL Jet Propulsion Laboratory
Dawn Spacecraft Team
Rosetta Sequence Team Lead
Phone: (818) 393-6261
Cell: (818) 653-8213
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On 9/18/18, 7:15 PM, "DeTomaso on behalf of Thomas Törnblom" <detomaso-bounces at server.detomasolist.com on behalf of tipo874 at gmail.com> wrote:
https://www.snopes.com/fact-check/nobodys-fuel/
> 19 sep. 2018 kl. 03:24 skrev Mike Drew via DeTomaso <detomaso at server.detomasolist.com>:
>
> Larry,
>
> Hilarious urban legend....
>
> [1]https://www.snopes.com/fact-check/nobodys-fuel/
>
> Mike
> Sent from my iPad
> On Sep 18, 2018, at 17:59, Larry Larsen <[2]gp4pantera at gmail.com>
> wrote:
>
> Google the name... Charles Nelson Pogue, followed by Tom Ogle.
> Both developed carburetors that allowed vehicles to go 200 miles to a
> gallon.A Oil companies then put lead, (later banned) then later
> other
> fillers to muck up the working of vapor carburation.A You tube
> "vapor
> carburetors" and you can see the concepts.A
> On Tue, Sep 18, 2018, 1:59 PM Ken Green via DeTomaso
> <[1][3]detomaso at server.detomasolist.com> wrote:
> A A I kinda recall that Who Framed Roger Rabbit was loosely based
> on GM
> A A buying and closing the LA light rail/street cars?
> A A
> A
> __________________________________________________________________
> A A From: "Himes, Terry (397C)" <[2][4]Terry.Himes at jpl.nasa.gov>
> A A To: Will Kooiman <[3][5]will.kooiman at gmail.com>; Rob Dumoulin
> A A <[4][6]rob at dumoulins.net>; JFFR <[5][7]pantera at vtc.net>
> A A Cc: P - Mail List <[6][8]detomaso at server.detomasolist.com>
> A A Sent: Tuesday, September 18, 2018 1:31 PM
> A A Subject: Re: [DeTomaso] NPC NPC NPC Wondering how California
> banning
> A A fosil fuel in 27 years will impact the long term value of our
> cars?
> A A Agreed!A Politics and Nonsense!!A That's all it is.A We
> (technically)
> A A can solve anything. But you need to take the
> A A brain-dead politics out of it.A Other forms of energy will
> (hopefully)
> A A "reduce" our dependence on fossil fuels.
> A A If you wanna know what we (yes HUMANS) are doing to this
> planet, come
> A A to JPL and I will give you a tour of the
> A A Earth Sciences Center.A Pure unaltered science data from the
> last 75
> A A years before your very eyes. Projected on a
> A A 20ft globe of the earth. If you don't get it by then, well....
> A A OBTW -A Don't like regulations? Plan a trip to any Chinese
> industrial
> A A area. I still remember LA Brown-outs. Orange
> A A A A A A A A A A pollution so thick they sent kids home
> from school. You
> A A couldn't even see the mountains.A A A Lovely.
> A A A A A A A A A A My friend (Thomas) works for Fitbit.
> All are built in
> A A China. He wears a mask every day while on-site.
> A A OBTW OBTW - Why no Mass Transit in LA? Read the LA History
> Books. In
> A A the early 30's (besides the massive corruption)
> A A A A A A A A A A A A A A A A the car and rubber
> industry, wanting to
> A A sell more cars, formed small companies, bought all the
> A A A A A A A A A A A A A A A A light-rail and
> dismantled them. Sold the
> A A land. They got their wish. A lot more cars. Now the tax payers
> A A A A A A A A A A A A A A A are paying billions to
> bring back trains.
> A A Hmmm?A What vision!
> A A Take the politics out of it... and do the right thing!
> A A </off-soap-box ;->
> A A Terry
> A A "A Purple Heart proves you were smart enough to hatch a plan,
> A A stupid enough to try it and lucky enough to survive!"
> A A Terry W. Himes
> A A JPL Jet Propulsion Laboratory
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> A A Rosetta Sequence Team Lead
> A A Phone: (818) 393-6261
> A A Cell:A A (818) 653-8213
> A A [1][7][9]thimes at jpl.nasa.gov
> A A d--od-,
> A A i>>?On 9/18/18, 12:19 PM, "DeTomaso on behalf of Will Kooiman"
> A A <[2][8][10]detomaso-bounces at server.detomasolist.com on behalf
> of
> A A [3][9][11]will.kooiman at gmail.com> wrote:
> A A A A ThatA^1s a cool solution (2 lakes).
> A A A A IA^1ve thought about a similar energy storage system for
> an
> A A off-grid system.
> A A A A IA^1ll never do it, but IA^1ve often wondered if it were
> possible.
> A A A A I heard years ago that we had enough natural gas in the
> US to
> A A provide
> A A A A power to the US for 300 years.A I donA^1t know if
> thatA^1s actually
> A A true, but
> A A A A itA^1s an interesting idea.
> A A A A If the US would stop with all of the politics and
> nonsense, we
> A A could
> A A A A create an energy infrastructure that makes sense.A Use
> all
> A A available
> A A A A energy sources.
> A A A A On 9/18/18, 12:39 PM, "DeTomaso on behalf of Rob
> Dumoulin"
> A A A A <[4][10][12]detomaso-bounces at server.detomasolist.com on
> behalf of
> A A [5][11][13]rob at dumoulins.net>
> A A A A wrote:
> A A A A >A I did some IT work for a mid-western electrical
> company.AA They
> A A had two
> A A A A >A lakes separated by a dam (one high elevation and one
> low). In
> A A A A >A high-demand, they would let the reservoir flow
> through the dam
> A A to
> A A A A >A generate power during peak then pump it back into
> the
> higher
> A A reservoir
> A A A A >A at night when it was off peak.AA A
> A A A A >A Kind of like an inefficient kinetic energy perpetual
> motion
> A A machine to
> A A A A >A even out capacity vs. demand.AA True statement that
> the first
> A A person or
> A A A A >A individual that comes up with a viable no-loss
> electrical
> A A storage
> A A A A >A system will be rich.
> A A A A >A Rob DuMoulin
> A A A A >A 904.476.8744
> A A A A >A On Tue, Sep 18, 2018 at 9:25 AM, JFFR
> <[1][6][12][14]pantera at vtc.net>
> A A wrote:
> A A A A >
> A A A A >A A Electric rates going up is an understatement! I
> also worked my
> A A A A >A A entire life in the electric generating industry
> and I can
> A A honestly
> A A A A >A A say that all of these new regulations end up
> costing the rate
> A A payers
> A A A A >A A a lot of money. California currently gets a lot
> of
> electricity
> A A from
> A A A A >A A Nevada, Arizona and Utah and much of which is
> generated by
> A A coal.
> A A A A >A A There is also a bill coming up in November for
> Arizona to be
> A A using
> A A A A >A A 100 percent renewable electricity by a certain
> year.
> A A A A >A A People fail to understand that when the sun
> doesn't shine and
> A A the
> A A A A >A A wind doesn't blow, all of these nice renewable
> energy sources
> A A stop
> A A A A >A A producing power. Until someone comes up with a
> battery storage
> A A A A >A A system that can supply power to the grid after
> dark, having
> A A 100
> A A A A >A A percent renewable electric power is only a dream.
> Of course if
> A A A A >A A people are willing to put up with blackouts, then
> this might
> A A work.
> A A A A >A A Until then, fossil fuel generated electricity is
> going to be
> A A here.
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