[DeTomaso] Oil cooler question
Jeff Kimball
jgkrenton at comcast.net
Tue Sep 11 12:53:50 EDT 2018
Asa:
No real hurry. Just returned from the NW Pantera cruise and the car is running great, but if I work the turbos much the existing Ford Interceptor cooler just can't keep up, as expected. Upgrading the cooler is probably a worthwhile winter project.
Thanks again!
Jeff / 2467
> On September 11, 2018 at 8:11 AM Asa Jay Laughton wrote:
>
>
> Hi Jeff,
> If you can wait a couple of days, I can probably tell you. I'm flying
> out tomorrow to meet with Dawg and get ready for SSCC.
>
> I don't see why using the heater ports wouldn't work. For a racing
> application having no heater core in the cabin, it's like having two
> dedicated ports already available just for this purpose. If you want to
> still use the heater core, then you'd plumb the cooler either before or
> after the core. If before, it will take longer for your heater to warm
> up; if after, it will cool the oil more.
>
> That's my perspective.
> Asa Jay
>
> Asa Jay Laughton - W7TSC, MSgt, USAFR, Retired
> Spokane County ARES-RACES Net Manager
> ******************************
> http://w7tsc.org
> http://www.teampanteraracing.com
>
> On 9/11/2018 07:48, Jeff Kimball wrote:
>
> > > All:
> >
> > I know the oil cooler question has been discussed at great length and
> > the serious racers such as Mad Dog seem to believe the big Fluidyne
> > unit is the preferred solution, which I believe is this unit:
> >
> > [1]https://www.fluidyne.com/product-page/db-30500-water-to-oil-cooler
> >
> > However, I don't recall nor have I been able to find any information on
> > how the water side was plumbed in a Pantera. This Fluidyne unit has
> > 3/4 inch pipe water connections where the smaller Ford Police
> > interceptor units such as this:
> >
> > [2]https://www.ebay.com/itm/New-OEM-Oil-Cooler-For-94-96-Crown-Victoria
> > -Grand-Marquis-Police-Package-ONLY/182538207253?fits=Model%3ACrown+Vict
> > oria%7CMake%3AFord&epid=1930515714&hash=item2a80200015:g:5MQAAOSwkShY-Q
> > rF
> >
> > use a standard radiator hose size water connection and go directly in
> > series with the main radiator lines.
> >
> > How do people plumb in the Fluidyne unit? The 3/4 inch connections are
> > way too small to be installed in series with the radiator. Are the
> > heater water lines adequate?
> >
> > Can anyone tell me how this was done or show me a photo or web link for
> > this information?
> >
> > Thanks all!
> >
> > Jeff 2467
> >
> > References
> > 1. https://www.fluidyne.com/product-page/db-30500-water-to-oil-cooler 2. https://www.ebay.com/itm/New-OEM-Oil-Cooler-For-94-96-Crown-Victoria-Grand-Marquis-Police-Package-ONLY/182538207253?fits=Model%3ACrown+Victoria%7CMake%3AFord&epid=1930515714&hash=item2a80200015:g:5MQAAOSwkShY-QrF https://www.ebay.com/itm/New-OEM-Oil-Cooler-For-94-96-Crown-Victoria-Grand-Marquis-Police-Package-ONLY/182538207253?fits=Model%3ACrown+Victoria%7CMake%3AFord&epid=1930515714&hash=item2a80200015:g:5MQAAOSwkShY-QrF
> >
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> > > Hi Jeff,
> If you can wait a couple of days, I can probably tell you. I'm flying
> out tomorrow to meet with Dawg and get ready for SSCC.
> I don't see why using the heater ports wouldn't work. For a racing
> application having no heater core in the cabin, it's like having two
> dedicated ports already available just for this purpose. If you want
> to still use the heater core, then you'd plumb the cooler either before
> or after the core. If before, it will take longer for your heater to
> warm up; if after, it will cool the oil more.
> That's my perspective.
> Asa Jay
> Asa Jay Laughton - W7TSC, MSgt, USAFR, Retired
> Spokane County ARES-RACES Net Manager
> ******************************
> [1]http://w7tsc.org
> [2]http://www.teampanteraracing.com
>
> On 9/11/2018 07:48, Jeff Kimball wrote:
>
> All:
>
> I know the oil cooler question has been discussed at great length and
> the serious racers such as Mad Dog seem to believe the big Fluidyne
> unit is the preferred solution, which I believe is this unit:
>
> [1][3]https://www.fluidyne.com/product-page/db-30500-water-to-oil-cooler
>
> However, I don't recall nor have I been able to find any information on
> how the water side was plumbed in a Pantera. This Fluidyne unit has
> 3/4 inch pipe water connections where the smaller Ford Police
> interceptor units such as this:
>
> [2][4]https://www.ebay.com/itm/New-OEM-Oil-Cooler-For-94-96-Crown-Victoria
> -Grand-Marquis-Police-Package-ONLY/182538207253?fits=Model%3ACrown+Vict
> oria%7CMake%3AFord&epid=1930515714&hash=item2a80200015:g:5MQAAOSwkShY-Q
> rF
>
> use a standard radiator hose size water connection and go directly in
> series with the main radiator lines.
>
> How do people plumb in the Fluidyne unit? The 3/4 inch connections are
> way too small to be installed in series with the radiator. Are the
> heater water lines adequate?
>
> Can anyone tell me how this was done or show me a photo or web link for
> this information?
>
> Thanks all!
>
> Jeff 2467
>
> References
> 1. [5]https://www.fluidyne.com/product-page/db-30500-water-to-oil-cooler 2. [6]https://www.ebay.com/itm/New-OEM-Oil-Cooler-For-94-96-Crown-Victoria-Gr
> and-Marquis-Police-Package-ONLY/182538207253?fits=Model%3ACrown+Victoria%7CMake%
> 3AFord&epid=1930515714&hash=item2a80200015:g:5MQAAOSwkShY-QrF
>
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> 1. http://w7tsc.org/ 2. http://www.teampanteraracing.com/ 3. https://www.fluidyne.com/product-page/db-30500-water-to-oil-cooler 4. https://www.ebay.com/itm/New-OEM-Oil-Cooler-For-94-96-Crown-Victoria 5. https://www.fluidyne.com/product-page/db-30500-water-to-oil-cooler 6. https://www.ebay.com/itm/New-OEM-Oil-Cooler-For-94-96-Crown-Victoria-Grand-Marquis-Police-Package-ONLY/182538207253?fits=Model%3ACrown+Victoria%7CMake%3AFord&epid=1930515714&hash=item2a80200015:g:5MQAAOSwkShY-QrF https://www.ebay.com/itm/New-OEM-Oil-Cooler-For-94-96-Crown-Victoria-Grand-Marquis-Police-Package-ONLY/182538207253?fits=Model%3ACrown+Victoria%7CMake%3AFord&epid=1930515714&hash=item2a80200015:g:5MQAAOSwkShY-QrF 7. mailto:DeTomaso at server.detomasolist mailto:DeTomaso at server.detomasolist .com 8. http://server.detomasolist.com/mailman/listinfo/detomaso
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Asa:
No real hurry. Just returned from the NW Pantera cruise and the car is
running great, but if I work the turbos much the existing Ford
Interceptor cooler just can't keep up, as expected. Upgrading the
cooler is probably a worthwhile winter project.
Thanks again!
Jeff / 2467
On September 11, 2018 at 8:11 AM Asa Jay Laughton wrote:
Hi Jeff,
If you can wait a couple of days, I can probably tell you. I'm
flying
out tomorrow to meet with Dawg and get ready for SSCC.
I don't see why using the heater ports wouldn't work. For a racing
application having no heater core in the cabin, it's like having two
dedicated ports already available just for this purpose. If you want
to
still use the heater core, then you'd plumb the cooler either before
or
after the core. If before, it will take longer for your heater to
warm
up; if after, it will cool the oil more.
That's my perspective.
Asa Jay
Asa Jay Laughton - W7TSC, MSgt, USAFR, Retired
Spokane County ARES-RACES Net Manager
******************************
[1]http://w7tsc.org
[2]http://www.teampanteraracing.com
On 9/11/2018 07:48, Jeff Kimball wrote:
All:
I know the oil cooler question has been discussed at great length
and
the serious racers such as Mad Dog seem to believe the big Fluidyne
unit is the preferred solution, which I believe is this unit:
[1][3]https://www.fluidyne.com/product-page/db-30500-water-to-oil-co
oler
However, I don't recall nor have I been able to find any information
on
how the water side was plumbed in a Pantera. This Fluidyne unit has
3/4 inch pipe water connections where the smaller Ford Police
interceptor units such as this:
[2][4]https://www.ebay.com/itm/New-OEM-Oil-Cooler-For-94-96-Crown-Vi
ctoria
-Grand-Marquis-Police-Package-ONLY/182538207253?fits=Model%3ACrown+V
ict
oria%7CMake%3AFord&epid=1930515714&hash=item2a80200015:g:5MQAAOSwkSh
Y-Q
rF
use a standard radiator hose size water connection and go directly
in
series with the main radiator lines.
How do people plumb in the Fluidyne unit? The 3/4 inch connections
are
way too small to be installed in series with the radiator. Are the
heater water lines adequate?
Can anyone tell me how this was done or show me a photo or web link
for
this information?
Thanks all!
Jeff 2467
References
1.
[5]https://www.fluidyne.com/product-page/db-30500-water-to-oil-coole
r 2.
[6]https://www.ebay.com/itm/New-OEM-Oil-Cooler-For-94-96-Crown-Victo
ria-Grand-Marquis-Police-Package-ONLY/182538207253?fits=Model%3ACrow
n+Victoria%7CMake%3AFord&epid=1930515714&hash=item2a80200015:g:5MQAA
OSwkShY-QrF
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Hi Jeff,
If you can wait a couple of days, I can probably tell you. I'm
flying
out tomorrow to meet with Dawg and get ready for SSCC.
I don't see why using the heater ports wouldn't work. For a racing
application having no heater core in the cabin, it's like having two
dedicated ports already available just for this purpose. If you want
to still use the heater core, then you'd plumb the cooler either
before
or after the core. If before, it will take longer for your heater to
warm up; if after, it will cool the oil more.
That's my perspective.
Asa Jay
Asa Jay Laughton - W7TSC, MSgt, USAFR, Retired
Spokane County ARES-RACES Net Manager
******************************
[1][9]http://w7tsc.org
[2][10]http://www.teampanteraracing.com
On 9/11/2018 07:48, Jeff Kimball wrote:
All:
I know the oil cooler question has been discussed at great length
and
the serious racers such as Mad Dog seem to believe the big Fluidyne
unit is the preferred solution, which I believe is this unit:
[1][3][11]https://www.fluidyne.com/product-page/db-30500-water-to-oi
l-cooler
However, I don't recall nor have I been able to find any information
on
how the water side was plumbed in a Pantera. This Fluidyne unit has
3/4 inch pipe water connections where the smaller Ford Police
interceptor units such as this:
[2][4][12]https://www.ebay.com/itm/New-OEM-Oil-Cooler-For-94-96-Crow
n-Victoria
-Grand-Marquis-Police-Package-ONLY/182538207253?fits=Model%3ACrown+V
ict
oria%7CMake%3AFord&epid=1930515714&hash=item2a80200015:g:5MQAAOSwkSh
Y-Q
rF
use a standard radiator hose size water connection and go directly
in
series with the main radiator lines.
How do people plumb in the Fluidyne unit? The 3/4 inch connections
are
way too small to be installed in series with the radiator. Are the
heater water lines adequate?
Can anyone tell me how this was done or show me a photo or web link
for
this information?
Thanks all!
Jeff 2467
References
1.
[5][13]https://www.fluidyne.com/product-page/db-30500-water-to-oil-c
ooler 2.
[6][14]https://www.ebay.com/itm/New-OEM-Oil-Cooler-For-94-96-Crown-V
ictoria-Gr
and-Marquis-Police-Package-ONLY/182538207253?fits=Model%3ACrown+Vict
oria%7CMake%
3AFord&epid=1930515714&hash=item2a80200015:g:5MQAAOSwkShY-QrF
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3. https://www.fluidyne.com/product-page/db-30500-water-to-oil-cooler
4. https://www.ebay.com/itm/New-OEM-Oil-Cooler-For-94-96-Crown-Victoria
5. https://www.fluidyne.com/product-page/db-30500-water-to-oil-cooler
6. https://www.ebay.com/itm/New-OEM-Oil-Cooler-For-94-96-Crown-Victoria-Grand-Marquis-Police-Package-ONLY/182538207253?fits=Model%3ACrown+Victoria%7CMake%3AFord&epid=1930515714&hash=item2a80200015:g:5MQAAOSwkShY-QrF
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12. https://www.ebay.com/itm/New-OEM-Oil-Cooler-For-94-96-Crown-Victoria
13. https://www.fluidyne.com/product-page/db-30500-water-to-oil-cooler
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20. https://www.ebay.com/itm/New-OEM-Oil-Cooler-For-94-96-Crown-Victoria
21. https://www.fluidyne.com/product-page/db-30500-water-to-oil-cooler
22. https://www.ebay.com/itm/New-OEM-Oil-Cooler-For-94-96-Crown-Victoria-Grand-Marquis-Police-Package-ONLY/182538207253?fits=Model%3ACrown+Victoria%7CMake%3AFord&epid=1930515714&hash=item2a80200015:g:5MQAAOSwkShY-QrF
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