[DeTomaso] New AC system

[Julian Kift]

What do you have right now, still the York compressor or a rotary Sanden? If the latter and it's not compromised you likely don't need a new compressor, just a thorough flush and clean and the correct oil.


Assuming all new parts are required, but your evaporator is okay with a thorough flush;

Sanden Compressor ~$250 ( be wary of Sanden 'style' compressors, that are cheap knockoffs)

Condenser $300

Hose kit $425

Expansion valve $75

Dryer $25


That's ~$1100 in retail parts + maybe $100 of freon, leaving labor at $2300-2800 to cover likely radiator removal for front condenser mount fabrication, hose routing etc. so not inconceivable to spend 25 hours at a shop rate of $100/hr. If the shop has specific experience and can provide successful install references, maybe it's worth the extra $$ for peace of mind. If this is your local A/C shop, I'd stay well away, I've helped fix more Pantera's where people have spent $4K with an unsuccessful result than I'd like to mention and you almost have to start from scratch.


Could you do it cheaper, yes for sure, a couple six packs and a weekend Tech session from your local Pantera friends, the experience and camaraderie  that's priceless!


I can't send this without asking the question everyone has on their minds, why a front mount condenser? Unless you have 180 headers there is no good reason IMO to move to a front condenser and further marginalize an already marginal cooling system. The stock location can be made to successfully work.


Julian

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From: DeTomaso <detomaso-bounces at server.detomasolist.com> on behalf of Don Franck <panteradon at gmail.com>
Sent: Saturday, June 23, 2018 3:14 AM
To: detomaso at server.detomasolist.com
Subject: [DeTomaso] New AC system

I wan to change my AC from R 12 to R 134 and move condenser to front.

This will mean all new hoses, rerouting hoses, new compressor and
condenser, new expansions valve and dryer.

I was quoted $3500 to $4000 for the complete job.

Thoughts?

Thanks for any help
Don


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Don
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   What do you have right now, still the York compressor or a rotary
   Sanden? If the latter and it's not compromised you likely don't need a
   new compressor, just a thorough flush and clean and the correct oil.

   Assuming all new parts are required, but your evaporator is okay with a
   thorough flush;

   Sanden Compressor ~$250 ( be wary of Sanden 'style' compressors, that
   are cheap knockoffs)

   Condenser $300

   Hose kit $425

   Expansion valve $75

   Dryer $25

   That's ~$1100 in retail parts + maybe $100 of freon, leaving labor at
   $2300-2800 to cover likely radiator removal for front condenser mount
   fabrication, hose routing etc. so not inconceivable to spend 25 hours
   at a shop rate of $100/hr. If the shop has specific experience and can
   provide successful install references, maybe it's worth the extra $$
   for peace of mind. If this is your local A/C shop, I'd stay well away,
   I've helped fix more Pantera's where people have spent $4K with an
   unsuccessful result than I'd like to mention and you almost have to
   start from scratch.

   Could you do it cheaper, yes for sure, a couple six packs and a weekend
   Tech session from your local Pantera friends, the experience and
   camaraderie  that's priceless!

   I can't send this without asking the question everyone has on their
   minds, why a front mount condenser? Unless you have 180 headers there
   is no good reason IMO to move to a front condenser and
   further marginalize an already marginal cooling system. The stock
   location can be made to successfully work.

   Julian
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   From: DeTomaso <detomaso-bounces at server.detomasolist.com> on behalf of
   Don Franck <panteradon at gmail.com>
   Sent: Saturday, June 23, 2018 3:14 AM
   To: detomaso at server.detomasolist.com
   Subject: [DeTomaso] New AC system

   I wan to change my AC from R 12 to R 134 and move condenser to front.
   This will mean all new hoses, rerouting hoses, new compressor and
   condenser, new expansions valve and dryer.
   I was quoted $3500 to $4000 for the complete job.
   Thoughts?
   Thanks for any help
   Don
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   Don