[DeTomaso] For Sale
mark peterson
petersonmr06 at yahoo.com
Fri Jun 8 14:59:22 EDT 2018
good thought. taking updated pic's this weekend for sale prep. thanks mike. mark1789
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On Fri, 6/8/18, Mike Drew <MikeLDrew at aol.com> wrote:
Subject: Re: [DeTomaso] For Sale
To: petersonmr06 at yahoo.com
Cc: "Steve Lisa" <stevelisa at patentit.com>, "Julian Kift" <julian_kift at hotmail.com>, "List DeTomaso Forum" <detomaso at server.detomasolist.com>
Date: Friday, June 8, 2018, 11:12 AM
Mark,
How about sending photos and a detailed
description and asking price? A person to person sale is
quite possible through this network. Steve Lisa just
announced a car for sale in Texas a few weeks ago, and I
shared that info with a prospective buyer who just joined
the Nor-Cal club and he bought it!
Mike
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my iPad
> On Jun 8, 2018, at
12:01, Mark Peterson via DeTomaso <detomaso at server.detomasolist.com>
wrote:
>
> Will
keep everyone apprised on my sale... Mark 1789
>
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__________________________________________________________________
>
> From: Steve Lisa
<stevelisa at patentit.com>
>
> Date: Fri, 8 Jun
2018 10:34:29 -0700
>
> To: Julian Kift<julian_kift at hotmail.com>
>
> Cc: mark
peterson<petersonmr06 at yahoo.com>;
List DeTomaso
> Forum<detomaso at server.detomasolist.com>
>
> Subject: Re:
[DeTomaso] For Sale
>
> There is a Pantera on BAT as we speak
getting good reviews and running
> up
quickly in price. I know nothing about it. It will be
interesting
> to see the process play
out.
> Regards,
>
Steven G. Lisa, Esq.
> Email: SteveLisa at PatentIt.com
> Direct: 312-320-5888
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> On Fri, Jun 8, 2018, 07:59 Julian Kift
<[2]julian_kift at hotmail.com>
> wrote:
>
> All good advice from Steve;
>
> BaT has a strong
following, although as a personal gripe I do miss the
> old BaT journalistic barn find side
that seems to have given way to a
>
pure auction site. There's a lot of side banter comments
on auctions by
> folks who often
don't have clue what they are talking about and
> moreover no intention of bidding, but
if you have thick skin and can
> get
past that I think it's become one of the top venues.
However like
> most auction sites BaT
has no assurances and relies solely on the
> sellers description. From a buyer
perspective your credit card is
>
billed the 5% buyers fee a auction close and you consummate
the deal
> and payment directly with
the seller.
>
> As
much as I hate the site and their philosophy I usually
advocate for
> eBay, but as cars are
free to list and $125 if it sells it's about the
> cheapest exposure to the widest
audience. There's an awful lot that
> gets listed for that exposure as a
dragnet and sells outside eBay or
>
after the auction ends. Some would argue (mostly eBay) that
dealing
> outside the site loses buyer
protections, but in reality eBay
>
policies are to protect eBay not the consumer. In any
transaction these
> days and with the
prevalence of scams both buyer and seller need to be
> very diligent and I personally take far
more caution than I used to in
> the
past.
>
> Hemmings
I like for the online advertising, I would not bother with
the
> print version if it's an
extra cost but suspect it still comes free
> with a general online ad), they used to
run online ads until sold.
>
> Personally I liken the major auction
houses to Casino's, it's a roll of
> the dice and the house always wins (on
both sides o the deal in this
>
case)!
>
> Then
there's Craigslist, that 's more like walking into
the casino and
> dropping all your
worldly possessions on the Roulette table on green!
>
> Julian
>
__________________________________________________________________
>
> From: DeTomaso
<[3]detomaso-bounces at server.detomasolist.com>
on behalf
> of Steve Lisa <[4]stevelisa at patentit.com>
> Sent: Thursday, June 7, 2018 9:38 PM
> To: mark peterson
> Cc: List DeTomaso Forum
> Subject: Re: [DeTomaso] For Sale
>
> Mark,
> After buying cars off of Ebay,
Hemmings, Craigslist, RaceCar Direct,
>
RacDezrt and the Scottsdale car auctions, I personally have
come to the
> conclusion that BAT is
becoming the place to go to sell (or maybe even
> buy!) a good car. I have no direct
experience yet buying or selling on
>
BAT, but have friends who have done so and have watched with
a silent
> addiction every morning.
In contrast, the other "options" left me
> surprised
> in
some important ways and in some cases paying premiums for
that
> surprise
>
when I ended up with the car.
> Of
course, I could blame the glasses of wine before hitting
"bid," but
> I
> have on occasional been quite rational,
had PPI's done, spent the money
>
on
> airfare to go look at a car, and
walked away due to fairly obvious
>
problems
> missed or underestimated by
the inspector (and of course left unstated
> in
> the
advert/listing). I now go so far as to request (and pay
for)
> compression and leak down tests
-- as I did recently on a Pantera that
> was
> for
sale). But, I think that "unknown" on the
"silent sale" sites
>
keeps
> the price unfairly low for the
exception -- the really good cars well
> known
> to an
educated group.
> This forum can help
solve the "unknown" if members are willing to
talk
> *honestly* on BAT about the
well-known Pantera's. For an uncommon car
> like
> a Pantera,
known to a focused group of Pantera experts, I think BAT
> should
> work for
a good car -- but clearly won't work for a Pantera
with
> problems.
> This group would be all over it.
However, it would not take long for
>
people to get to know that a car listed on BAT that is
favorably and
> frequently commented
upon by experts is a "good" Pantera to buy.
> Anyway - just my thoughts.
> Regards,
> Steven
G. Lisa, Esq.
> Email: SteveLisa at PatentIt.com
> Direct: 312-320-5888
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> On Thu, Jun 7, 2018 at 8:48 PM,
mark peterson via DeTomaso <
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wrote:
>> After almost 20 yrs of
ownership, I have come to the realization that
> my
>> `71 Pantera
needs a better home.
>> With 47,572
miles on the odometer, the reason I'm looking to sell
it
> is
>> that
I don't drive it.
>>
>> The car is no stranger to the members
of POCA. Don Byars restored it,
>
RBT
>> freshened the ZF and the
>> motor was professionally rebuilt.
Heck, even Dave Adler defended it
>
in
>> court during my divorce. The
question for the group is--in addition
> to the
>> POCA
website, is there a preferable site to advertise/sell a
Pantera,
> such
>> as BaT, Hemmings, E-Bay, etc. or
consignment? Thanks for the input.
>
Mark
>> 1789
>>
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