[DeTomaso] For Sale

Mike Drew MikeLDrew at aol.com
Fri Jun 8 14:12:07 EDT 2018 

Mark,

How about sending photos and a detailed description and asking price? A person to person sale is quite possible through this network. Steve Lisa just announced a car for sale in Texas a few weeks ago, and I shared that info with a prospective buyer who just joined the Nor-Cal club and he bought it!

Mike

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> On Jun 8, 2018, at 12:01, Mark Peterson via DeTomaso <detomaso at server.detomasolist.com> wrote:
> 
>   Will keep everyone apprised on my sale... Mark 1789
> 
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>     __________________________________________________________________
> 
>   From: Steve Lisa <stevelisa at patentit.com>
> 
>   Date: Fri, 8 Jun 2018 10:34:29 -0700
> 
>   To: Julian Kift<julian_kift at hotmail.com>
> 
>   Cc: mark peterson<petersonmr06 at yahoo.com>; List DeTomaso
>   Forum<detomaso at server.detomasolist.com>
> 
>   Subject: Re: [DeTomaso] For Sale
> 
>   There is a Pantera on BAT as we speak getting good reviews and running
>   up quickly in price.  I know nothing about it. It will be interesting
>   to see the process play out.
>   Regards,
>   Steven G. Lisa, Esq.
>   Email: SteveLisa at PatentIt.com
>   Direct: 312-320-5888
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>   On Fri, Jun 8, 2018, 07:59 Julian Kift <[2]julian_kift at hotmail.com>
>   wrote:
> 
>   All good advice from Steve;
> 
>   BaT has a strong following, although as a personal gripe I do miss the
>   old BaT journalistic barn find side that seems to have given way to a
>   pure auction site. There's a lot of side banter comments on auctions by
>   folks who often don't have clue what they are talking about and
>   moreover no intention of bidding, but if you have thick skin and can
>   get past that I think it's become one of the top venues. However like
>   most auction sites BaT has no assurances and relies solely on the
>   sellers description. From a buyer perspective your credit card is
>   billed the 5% buyers fee a auction close and you consummate the deal
>   and payment directly with the seller.
> 
>   As much as I hate the site and their philosophy I usually advocate for
>   eBay, but as cars are free to list and $125 if it sells it's about the
>   cheapest exposure to the widest audience. There's an awful lot that
>   gets listed for that exposure as a dragnet and sells outside eBay or
>   after the auction ends. Some would argue (mostly eBay) that dealing
>   outside the site loses buyer protections, but in reality eBay
>   policies are to protect eBay not the consumer. In any transaction these
>   days and with the prevalence of scams both buyer and seller need to be
>   very diligent and I personally take far more caution than I used to in
>   the past.
> 
>   Hemmings I like for the online advertising, I would not bother with the
>   print version if it's an extra cost but suspect it still comes free
>   with a general online ad), they used to run online ads until sold.
> 
>   Personally I liken the major auction houses to Casino's, it's a roll of
>   the dice and the house always wins (on both sides o the deal in this
>   case)!
> 
>   Then there's Craigslist, that 's more like walking into the casino and
>   dropping all your worldly possessions on the Roulette table on green!
> 
>   Julian
>     __________________________________________________________________
> 
>   From: DeTomaso <[3]detomaso-bounces at server.detomasolist.com> on behalf
>   of Steve Lisa <[4]stevelisa at patentit.com>
>   Sent: Thursday, June 7, 2018 9:38 PM
>   To: mark peterson
>   Cc: List DeTomaso Forum
>   Subject: Re: [DeTomaso] For Sale
> 
>   Mark,
>   After buying cars off of Ebay, Hemmings, Craigslist, RaceCar Direct,
>   RacDezrt and the Scottsdale car auctions, I personally have come to the
>   conclusion that BAT is becoming the place to go to sell (or maybe even
>   buy!) a good car.  I have no direct experience yet buying or selling on
>   BAT, but have friends who have done so and have watched with a silent
>   addiction every morning.  In contrast, the other "options" left me
>   surprised
>    in some important ways and in some cases paying premiums for that
>   surprise
>   when I ended up with the car.
>   Of course, I could blame the glasses of wine before hitting "bid," but
>   I
>   have on occasional been quite rational, had PPI's done, spent the money
>   on
>   airfare to go look at a car, and walked away due to fairly obvious
>   problems
>   missed or underestimated by the inspector (and of course left unstated
>   in
>   the advert/listing).  I now go so far as to request (and pay for)
>   compression and leak down tests -- as I did recently on a Pantera that
>   was
>   for sale).  But, I think that "unknown" on the "silent sale" sites
>   keeps
>   the price unfairly low for the exception -- the really good cars well
>   known
>   to an educated group.
>   This forum can help solve the "unknown" if members are willing to talk
>   *honestly* on BAT about the well-known Pantera's.  For an uncommon car
>   like
>   a Pantera, known to a focused group of Pantera experts, I think BAT
>   should
>   work for a good car -- but clearly won't work for a Pantera with
>   problems.
>   This group would be all over it.  However, it would not take long for
>   people to get to know that a car listed on BAT that is favorably and
>   frequently commented upon by experts is a "good" Pantera to buy.
>   Anyway - just my thoughts.
>   Regards,
>   Steven G. Lisa, Esq.
>   Email: SteveLisa at PatentIt.com
>   Direct: 312-320-5888
>   <[5]http://www.patentit.com>
>   *Scottsdale Office* | *P*: 480.535.6656  |  *F:* 480.535.6628  |  *A:*
>   7689
>   East Paradise Lane, Suite 2, Scottsdale, AZ 85260
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>   E.
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>   you.
>   On Thu, Jun 7, 2018 at 8:48 PM, mark peterson via DeTomaso <
>   [7]detomaso at server.detomasolist.com> wrote:
>> After almost 20 yrs of ownership, I have come to the realization that
>   my
>> `71 Pantera needs a better home.
>> With 47,572 miles on the odometer, the reason I'm looking to sell it
>   is
>> that I don't drive it.
>> 
>> The car is no stranger to the members of POCA. Don Byars restored it,
>   RBT
>> freshened the ZF and the
>> motor was professionally rebuilt. Heck, even Dave Adler defended it
>   in
>> court during my divorce.  The question for the group is--in addition
>   to the
>> POCA website, is there a preferable site to advertise/sell a Pantera,
>   such
>> as BaT, Hemmings, E-Bay, etc. or consignment?  Thanks for the input.
>   Mark
>> 1789
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