[DeTomaso] NPC: on this day
Pantdino
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Fri Feb 2 21:55:53 EST 2018
"America came very close to losing the war to the Germans, and then being Atom-bombed by the
Russians later."
That's a bit far fetched, I think. If Germany had defeated the Soviet Union, they would have enslaved the populace and Russia would cease to exist as a military power.
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From: Bill Lewis <lotus0005 at hotmail.com>
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One of my favorite authors is W.E.B. Griffin. One of his latest books
included the USA getting Von Braun and other Germans out of Germany
before the Russians could grab them. IMO, America came very close to
losing the war to the Germans, and then being Atom-bombed by the
Russians later.
---And, was Von Braun a Nazi in name only, or was he a true believer?
---Plus, I was reading one of Robert Kiyosaki's books, and he has
convinced me of the control that the "super rich" have over the REAL
power in the world. The power and money behind the throne(s).
Fascinating, and nothing that can be done about it. ---BILL Lewis
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Sent: Thursday, February 1, 2018 11:33 PM
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Nope. We were ready to go into orbit in early 1957. President
Eisenhower "formally" told JPL to
STAND-DOWN because JPL was working with Werner von Braun (V2) and the
Army. JPL launch vehicles
(Juniter-C) and guidance was much more sophisticated. Eisenhower did
NOT want the world to think
we were using space for military purposes. So, the contract to put the
first US satellite into space was
given to the Navy. Both Dr. Pickering (JPL) and Dr. Van Allen (UofIOWA)
knew that the Navy Vanguard
was not ready for prime-time, so kept working on the JPL launch vehicle
and Van Allen science payload secretly.
Their Intel was Correct:
After Vanguard failed, Eisenhower called JPL. Pickering & von Braun
said we could launch in 90 days. Which we did. ;-)
OBTW - Explorer 1 was a real Science Payload. Sputnik only beeped.
Explorer 2-4 were also launched, shortly after 1.
Discovering the Van Allen Radiation belt that protects us was a major
discovery, winning Dr. Van Allen a Nobel prize.
JPL was handed over to the newly formed NASA later in 1958, but funding
continues to come thru Caltech today.
Terry
"A Purple Heart proves you were smart enough to hatch a plan,
stupid enough to try it and lucky enough to survive!"
Terry W. Himes
JPL Jet Propulsion Laboratory
Dawn Spacecraft Team
Rosetta Sequence Team Lead
Phone: (818) 393-6261
Cell: (818) 653-8213
thimes at jpl.nasa.gov<[1]mailto:thimes at jpl.nasa.gov>
From: Ken Green <kenn_green at yahoo.com>
Reply-To: Ken Green <kenn_green at yahoo.com>
Date: Thursday, February 1, 2018 at 1:39 PM
To: Terry Himes <terry.himes at jpl.nasa.gov>, Larry-Ohio Time Corp
<Larry at ohiotimecorp.com>, 'DeTomaso Email List'
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Subject: Re: [DeTomaso] NPC: on this day
My recollection is that the Russians beat the US because they already
had bigger rockets for their heavy nuclear warheads, and the US had to
develop new rockets to put a satellite in orbit.
Ken
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Thanks Larry!!
Yesterday JPL (and Caltech where NASA began) we had celebrations. Some
excellent DVD's have been produced
which are probably on YouTube by now;
Explorer 1
Explorer and X minus 80 Days
Dr. Henry L. Richter gave a story lecture yesterday about those days.
He has a book out also "America's Leap Into Space"
He had some great inside stories. The transceiver he developed is now
in the Smithsonian.
When they launched Explorer 1 there was no NASA then. Just JPL and
Caltech. The stories (1936-1958) leading up to that
day are equaling fun to hear. I give a history presentation (and
movies) about those years. I recently put some stuff on
Facebook as well. [2]https://www.facebook.com/terry.w.himes
Also, some stuff on JPL website.
[3]https://www.jpl.nasa.gov/
For anyone (Space Nets) in the Seattle area, I will be giving a talk
about "How We Fly Deep Space Missions" at the Seattle Museum of Flight
on March 10th.
Fun Fun!
Terry
"A Purple Heart proves you were smart enough to hatch a plan,
stupid enough to try it and lucky enough to survive!"
Terry W. Himes
JPL Jet Propulsion Laboratory
Dawn Spacecraft Team
Rosetta Sequence Team Lead
Phone: (818) 393-6261
Cell: (818) 653-8213
thimes at jpl.nasa.gov<[4]mailto:thimes at jpl.nasa.gov>
On 2/1/18, 9:53 AM, "DeTomaso on behalf of Larry-Ohio Time Corp"
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r.detomasolist.com> on behalf of
Larry at ohiotimecorp.com<mailto:Larry at ohiotimecorp.com>> wrote:
On this day 60 years ago, America became the second country to send
a
human-made object into low-Earth orbit, with the successful launch
of its
first satellite - Explorer 1. The launch of Explorer 1 took place
against
the backdrop of the Cold War between the United States and its
adversary,
the Soviet Union, which had shocked the world by launching Sputnik
1 into
orbit in October of 1957.
Larry (was a young pup) - Cleveland
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"America came very close to losing the war to the Germans, and then
being Atom-bombed by the
Russians later."
That's a bit far fetched, I think. If Germany had defeated the Soviet
Union, they would have enslaved the populace and Russia would cease to
exist as a military power.
-----Original Message-----
From: Bill Lewis <lotus0005 at hotmail.com>
To: 'DeTomaso Email List' <detomaso at server.detomasolist.com>
Sent: Fri, Feb 2, 2018 2:12 pm
Subject: Re: [DeTomaso] NPC: on this day
One of my favorite authors is W.E.B. Griffin. One of his latest books
included the USA getting Von Braun and other Germans out of Germany
before the Russians could grab them. IMO, America came very close to
losing the war to the Germans, and then being Atom-bombed by the
Russians later.
---And, was Von Braun a Nazi in name only, or was he a true believer?
---Plus, I was reading one of Robert Kiyosaki's books, and he has
convinced me of the control that the "super rich" have over the REAL
power in the world. The power and money behind the throne(s).
Fascinating, and nothing that can be done about it. ---BILL Lewis
__________________________________________________________________
From: DeTomaso <detomaso-[1]bounces at server.detomasolist.com> on behalf
of
Himes, Terry (397C) <[2]terry.himes at jpl.nasa.gov>
Sent: Thursday, February 1, 2018 11:33 PM
To: Ken Green; Larry-Ohio Time Corp; 'DeTomaso Email List'
Subject: Re: [DeTomaso] NPC: on this day
Nope. We were ready to go into orbit in early 1957. President
Eisenhower "formally" told JPL to
STAND-DOWN because JPL was working with Werner von Braun (V2) and the
Army. JPL launch vehicles
(Juniter-C) and guidance was much more sophisticated. Eisenhower did
NOT want the world to think
we were using space for military purposes. So, the contract to put the
first US satellite into space was
given to the Navy. Both Dr. Pickering (JPL) and Dr. Van Allen (UofIOWA)
knew that the Navy Vanguard
was not ready for prime-time, so kept working on the JPL launch vehicle
and Van Allen science payload secretly.
Their Intel was Correct:
After Vanguard failed, Eisenhower called JPL. Pickering & von Braun
said we could launch in 90 days. Which we did. ;-)
OBTW - Explorer 1 was a real Science Payload. Sputnik only beeped.
Explorer 2-4 were also launched, shortly after 1.
Discovering the Van Allen Radiation belt that protects us was a major
discovery, winning Dr. Van Allen a Nobel prize.
JPL was handed over to the newly formed NASA later in 1958, but funding
continues to come thru Caltech today.
Terry
"A Purple Heart proves you were smart enough to hatch a plan,
stupid enough to try it and lucky enough to survive!"
Terry W. Himes
JPL Jet Propulsion Laboratory
Dawn Spacecraft Team
Rosetta Sequence Team Lead
Phone: (818) 393-6261
Cell: (818) 653-8213
[3]thimes at jpl.nasa.gov<[1][4]mailto:thimes at jpl.nasa.gov>
From: Ken Green <[5]kenn_green at yahoo.com>
Reply-To: Ken Green <[6]kenn_green at yahoo.com>
Date: Thursday, February 1, 2018 at 1:39 PM
To: Terry Himes <[7]terry.himes at jpl.nasa.gov>, Larry-Ohio Time Corp
<[8]Larry at ohiotimecorp.com>, 'DeTomaso Email List'
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Subject: Re: [DeTomaso] NPC: on this day
My recollection is that the Russians beat the US because they already
had bigger rockets for their heavy nuclear warheads, and the US had to
develop new rockets to put a satellite in orbit.
Ken
________________________________
From: "Himes, Terry (397C)" <[10]terry.himes at jpl.nasa.gov>
To: Larry-Ohio Time Corp <[11]Larry at ohiotimecorp.com>; 'DeTomaso Email
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Sent: Thursday, February 1, 2018 1:29 PM
Subject: Re: [DeTomaso] NPC: on this day
Thanks Larry!!
Yesterday JPL (and Caltech where NASA began) we had celebrations. Some
excellent DVD's have been produced
which are probably on YouTube by now;
Explorer 1
Explorer and X minus 80 Days
Dr. Henry L. Richter gave a story lecture yesterday about those days.
He has a book out also "America's Leap Into Space"
He had some great inside stories. The transceiver he developed is now
in the Smithsonian.
When they launched Explorer 1 there was no NASA then. Just JPL and
Caltech. The stories (1936-1958) leading up to that
day are equaling fun to hear. I give a history presentation (and
movies) about those years. I recently put some stuff on
Facebook as well. [2][13]https://www.facebook.com/terry.w.himes
Also, some stuff on JPL website.
[3][14]https://www.jpl.nasa.gov/
For anyone (Space Nets) in the Seattle area, I will be giving a talk
about "How We Fly Deep Space Missions" at the Seattle Museum of Flight
on March 10th.
Fun Fun!
Terry
"A Purple Heart proves you were smart enough to hatch a plan,
stupid enough to try it and lucky enough to survive!"
Terry W. Himes
JPL Jet Propulsion Laboratory
Dawn Spacecraft Team
Rosetta Sequence Team Lead
Phone: (818) 393-6261
Cell: (818) 653-8213
[15]thimes at jpl.nasa.gov<[4][16]mailto:thimes at jpl.nasa.gov>
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r.detomasolist.com> on behalf of
[19]Larry at ohiotimecorp.com<[20]mailto:Larry at ohiotimecorp.com>> wrote:
On this day 60 years ago, America became the second country to send
a
human-made object into low-Earth orbit, with the successful launch
of its
first satellite - Explorer 1. The launch of Explorer 1 took place
against
the backdrop of the Cold War between the United States and its
adversary,
the Soviet Union, which had shocked the world by launching Sputnik
1 into
orbit in October of 1957.
Larry (was a young pup) - Cleveland
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