[DeTomaso] What is this engine noise?

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Fri Aug 31 21:45:38 EDT 2018


My A/C idler pulley bearing was making a really loud noise.  Went away when I replaced the bearing 

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On Friday, August 31, 2018, Mike Drew via DeTomaso <detomaso at server.detomasolist.com> wrote:

Bearing noise from the front of the motor is usually the A/C idler pulley bearing (or alternator...)

Mike

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On Aug 31, 2018, at 16:43, DAVID D GOODWIN <goodwinpantera at comcast.net> wrote:
> 
> Maybe some sandpaper to all your pulleys grooves and then belt
> dressing. I hope its not a bearing in the water pump!
> 
> Cheers, David Goodwin
> 
> On August 31, 2018 at 1:22 PM sean mundy wrote:
> Spent a bunch more time over and under the engine without being able
> to nail down the noise.
> As a last resort I just sprayed some water on the belt. Surprisingly
> the noise disappeared!
> The belt is only a couple years old. Maybe I have it too tight. I
> need to clean up the water that slung up all over my headliner :-(
> I will let everything dry out and try it again later and see if the
> squeal noise is back.
> I will spray some water on it again and confirm that I found the
> issue. Fingers crossed!!
> From: Asa Jay Laughton
> Sent: Thursday, August 30, 2018 10:03 PM
> To: [1]detomaso at server.detomasolist.com
> Stranger things...
> Water pump
> Alternator
> A/C compressor
> My first thought was that it sounded like a bearing, but not a rod
> or
> main or cam... like a ball bearing, like maybe the throwout bearing
> in
> the trans, or a pilot bearing/bushing. Then I thought about the list
> above.
> Then I thought Les might be onto it, but you said the baffles had
> been
> removed. Then I though maybe a vacuum leak at the carb or intake,
> but
> that would typically be rhythmic.
> Be sure to let us know what you find.
> Asa Jay
> Asa Jay Laughton - W7TSC, MSgt, USAFR, Retired
> Spokane County ARES-RACES Net Manager
> ******************************
> [2]http://w7tsc.org
> [3]http://www.teampanteraracing.com
> On 8/30/2018 18:06, sean mundy wrote:
> 
> At first I noticed it after it was hot. I got home and it was not
> making the noise anymore. I took the valve covers off cause it
> seemed that might be where it was coming from. Got a lot of good
> ideas of other things to check now. Thank you :)
> 
> On Aug 30, 2018, at 5:55 PM, Sean Korb wrote:
> It sounds fantastic! I had the subwoofer set up so at first I was
> like
> "what noise?" But the noise could be a tiny vacuum leak too making a
> whistling noise. Maybe even whistling through the carburetor
> venturis. It's a little shocking how much noise a carburetor
> actually
> makes, automakers would build baffles and play with air box size to
> quell it. A smoke generator could show any leaks. Is the motor hot
> or cold or it doesn't matter when you hear the noise?
> I do like the baffle theory but I kind of expect it to be noisier.
> The noise also sounds very familiar... like around old cars but
> benign-ish. Honestly it seems weird to me that I don't know what it
> is.
> 
> On 8/30/18, sean mundy wrote:
> I can not figure out what this noise is or where its exactly coming
> from. I've checked the rocker arms and they are all tight.
> I have roller rockers and lifters. Is this the sound if one of them
> is
> bad?
> [1][4]https://youtu.be/o4Q06VvjuWI
> References
> 1. [5]https://youtu.be/o4Q06VvjuWI
> 
> --
> Sean Korb [6]spkorb at spkorb.org [7]http://www.spkorb.org
> '65 Suprang,'68 Cougar,'78 R100/7,'60 Metro,'59 A35,'71 Pantera
> #1382
> "The more you drive, the less intelligent you get" --Miller
> "Computers are useless. They can only give you answers." -P. Picasso
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> Spent a bunch more time over and under the engine without being able
> to
> nail down the noise.
> As a last resort I just sprayed some water on the belt.
> Surprisingly the noise disappeared!
> The belt is only a couple years old. Maybe I have it too tight.
> I need to clean up the water that slung up all over my headliner :-(
> I will let everything dry out and try it again later and see if the
> squeal noise is back.
> I will spray some water on it again and confirm that I found the
> issue. Fingers crossed!!
> From: [1]Asa Jay Laughton
> Sent: Thursday, August 30, 2018 10:03 PM
> To: [2][13]detomaso at server.detomasolist.com
> Stranger things...
> Water pump
> Alternator
> A/C compressor
> My first thought was that it sounded like a bearing, but not a rod
> or
> main or cam... like a ball bearing, like maybe the throwout bearing
> in
> the trans, or a pilot bearing/bushing. Then I thought about the list
> above.
> Then I thought Les might be onto it, but you said the baffles had
> been
> removed. Then I though maybe a vacuum leak at the carb or intake,
> but
> that would typically be rhythmic.
> Be sure to let us know what you find.
> Asa Jay
> Asa Jay Laughton - W7TSC, MSgt, USAFR, Retired
> Spokane County ARES-RACES Net Manager
> ******************************
> [14]http://w7tsc.org
> [15]http://www.teampanteraracing.com
> On 8/30/2018 18:06, sean mundy wrote: > At first I noticed it after
> it was hot. I got home and it was not
> making the noise anymore. I took the valve covers off cause it
> seemed
> that might be where it was coming from. Got a lot of good ideas of
> other things to check now. Thank you :)
>> 
>> 
>> 
>>> On Aug 30, 2018, at 5:55 PM, Sean Korb wrote:
>>> 
>>> It sounds fantastic! I had the subwoofer set up so at first I was
> like
>>> "what noise?" But the noise could be a tiny vacuum leak too
> making a
>>> whistling noise. Maybe even whistling through the carburetor
>>> venturis. It's a little shocking how much noise a carburetor
> actually
>>> makes, automakers would build baffles and play with air box size
> to
>>> quell it. A smoke generator could show any leaks. Is the motor
> hot
>>> or cold or it doesn't matter when you hear the noise?
>>> 
>>> I do like the baffle theory but I kind of expect it to be
> noisier.
>>> The noise also sounds very familiar... like around old cars but
>>> benign-ish. Honestly it seems weird to me that I don't know what
> it
>>> is.
>>> 
>>>> On 8/30/18, sean mundy wrote:
>>>> I can not figure out what this noise is or where its exactly
> coming
>>>> from. I've checked the rocker arms and they are all tight.
>>>> I have roller rockers and lifters. Is this the sound if one of
> them is
>>>> bad?
>>>> [1][16]https://youtu.be/o4Q06VvjuWI
>>>> 
>>>> References
>>>> 
>>>> 1. [17]https://youtu.be/o4Q06VvjuWI
>>>> 
>>> 
>>> --
>>> Sean Korb [18]spkorb at spkorb.org [19]http://www.spkorb.org
>>> '65 Suprang,'68 Cougar,'78 R100/7,'60 Metro,'59 A35,'71 Pantera
> #1382
>>> "The more you drive, the less intelligent you get" --Miller
>>> "Computers are useless. They can only give you answers." -P.
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   My A/C idler pulley bearing was making a really loud noise.  Went away
   when I replaced the bearing

   Sent from AOL Mobile Mail

   On Friday, August 31, 2018, Mike Drew via
   DeTomaso <detomaso at server.detomasolist.com> wrote:

     Bearing noise from the front of the motor is usually the A/C idler
     pulley bearing (or alternator...)
     Mike
     Sent from my iPad
     >

   On Aug 31, 2018, at 16:43, DAVID D GOODWIN
   <[1]goodwinpantera at comcast.net> wrote:
   >
   > Maybe some sandpaper to all your pulleys grooves and then belt
   > dressing. I hope its not a bearing in the water pump!
   >
   > Cheers, David Goodwin
   >
   > On August 31, 2018 at 1:22 PM sean mundy wrote:
   > Spent a bunch more time over and under the engine without being able
   > to nail down the noise.
   > As a last resort I just sprayed some water on the belt. Surprisingly
   > the noise disappeared!
   > The belt is only a couple years old. Maybe I have it too tight. I
   > need to clean up the water that slung up all over my headliner :-(
   > I will let everything dry out and try it again later and see if the
   > squeal noise is back.
   > I will spray some water on it again and confirm that I found the
   > issue. Fingers crossed!!
   > From: Asa Jay Laughton
   > Sent: Thursday, August 30, 2018 10:03 PM
   > To: [1][2]detomaso at server.detomasolist.com
   > Stranger things...
   > Water pump
   > Alternator
   > A/C compressor
   > My first thought was that it sounded like a bearing, but not a rod
   > or
   > main or cam... like a ball bearing, like maybe the throwout bearing
   > in
   > the trans, or a pilot bearing/bushing. Then I thought about the list
   > above.
   > Then I thought Les might be onto it, but you said the baffles had
   > been
   > removed. Then I though maybe a vacuum leak at the carb or intake,
   > but
   > that would typically be rhythmic.
   > Be sure to let us know what you find.
   > Asa Jay
   > Asa Jay Laughton - W7TSC, MSgt, USAFR, Retired
   > Spokane County ARES-RACES Net Manager
   > ******************************
   > [2][3]http://w7tsc.org
   > [3][4]http://www.teampanteraracing.com
   > On 8/30/2018 18:06, sean mundy wrote:
   >
   > At first I noticed it after it was hot. I got home and it was not
   > making the noise anymore. I took the valve covers off cause it
   > seemed that might be where it was coming from. Got a lot of good
   > ideas of other things to check now. Thank you :)
   >
   > On Aug 30, 2018, at 5:55 PM, Sean Korb wrote:
   > It sounds fantastic! I had the subwoofer set up so at first I was
   > like
   > "what noise?" But the noise could be a tiny vacuum leak too making a
   > whistling noise. Maybe even whistling through the carburetor
   > venturis. It's a little shocking how much noise a carburetor
   > actually
   > makes, automakers would build baffles and play with air box size to
   > quell it. A smoke generator could show any leaks. Is the motor hot
   > or cold or it doesn't matter when you hear the noise?
   > I do like the baffle theory but I kind of expect it to be noisier.
   > The noise also sounds very familiar... like around old cars but
   > benign-ish. Honestly it seems weird to me that I don't know what it
   > is.
   >
   > On 8/30/18, sean mundy wrote:
   > I can not figure out what this noise is or where its exactly coming
   > from. I've checked the rocker arms and they are all tight.
   > I have roller rockers and lifters. Is this the sound if one of them
   > is
   > bad?
   > [1][4][5]https://youtu.be/o4Q06VvjuWI
   > References
   > 1. [5][6]https://youtu.be/o4Q06VvjuWI
   >
   > --
   > Sean Korb [6][7]spkorb at spkorb.org [7][8]http://www.spkorb.org
   > '65 Suprang,'68 Cougar,'78 R100/7,'60 Metro,'59 A35,'71 Pantera
   > #1382
   > "The more you drive, the less intelligent you get" --Miller
   > "Computers are useless. They can only give you answers." -P. Picasso
   >
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   > Spent a bunch more time over and under the engine without being able
   > to
   > nail down the noise.
   > As a last resort I just sprayed some water on the belt.
   > Surprisingly the noise disappeared!
   > The belt is only a couple years old. Maybe I have it too tight.
   > I need to clean up the water that slung up all over my headliner :-(
   > I will let everything dry out and try it again later and see if the
   > squeal noise is back.
   > I will spray some water on it again and confirm that I found the
   > issue. Fingers crossed!!
   > From: [1]Asa Jay Laughton
   > Sent: Thursday, August 30, 2018 10:03 PM
   > To: [2][13][14]detomaso at server.detomasolist.com
   > Stranger things...
   > Water pump
   > Alternator
   > A/C compressor
   > My first thought was that it sounded like a bearing, but not a rod
   > or
   > main or cam... like a ball bearing, like maybe the throwout bearing
   > in
   > the trans, or a pilot bearing/bushing. Then I thought about the list
   > above.
   > Then I thought Les might be onto it, but you said the baffles had
   > been
   > removed. Then I though maybe a vacuum leak at the carb or intake,
   > but
   > that would typically be rhythmic.
   > Be sure to let us know what you find.
   > Asa Jay
   > Asa Jay Laughton - W7TSC, MSgt, USAFR, Retired
   > Spokane County ARES-RACES Net Manager
   > ******************************
   > [14][15]http://w7tsc.org
   > [15][16]http://www.teampanteraracing.com
   > On 8/30/2018 18:06, sean mundy wrote: > At first I noticed it after
   > it was hot. I got home and it was not
   > making the noise anymore. I took the valve covers off cause it
   > seemed
   > that might be where it was coming from. Got a lot of good ideas of
   > other things to check now. Thank you :)
   >>
   >>
   >>
   >>> On Aug 30, 2018, at 5:55 PM, Sean Korb wrote:
   >>>
   >>> It sounds fantastic! I had the subwoofer set up so at first I was
   > like
   >>> "what noise?" But the noise could be a tiny vacuum leak too
   > making a
   >>> whistling noise. Maybe even whistling through the carburetor
   >>> venturis. It's a little shocking how much noise a carburetor
   > actually
   >>> makes, automakers would build baffles and play with air box size
   > to
   >>> quell it. A smoke generator could show any leaks. Is the motor
   > hot
   >>> or cold or it doesn't matter when you hear the noise?
   >>>
   >>> I do like the baffle theory but I kind of expect it to be
   > noisier.
   >>> The noise also sounds very familiar... like around old cars but
   >>> benign-ish. Honestly it seems weird to me that I don't know what
   > it
   >>> is.
   >>>
   >>>> On 8/30/18, sean mundy wrote:
   >>>> I can not figure out what this noise is or where its exactly
   > coming
   >>>> from. I've checked the rocker arms and they are all tight.
   >>>> I have roller rockers and lifters. Is this the sound if one of
   > them is
   >>>> bad?
   >>>> [1][16][17]https://youtu.be/o4Q06VvjuWI
   >>>>
   >>>> References
   >>>>
   >>>> 1. [17][18]https://youtu.be/o4Q06VvjuWI
   >>>>
   >>>
   >>> --
   >>> Sean Korb [18][19]spkorb at spkorb.org [19][20]http://www.spkorb.org
   >>> '65 Suprang,'68 Cougar,'78 R100/7,'60 Metro,'59 A35,'71 Pantera
   > #1382
   >>> "The more you drive, the less intelligent you get" --Miller
   >>> "Computers are useless. They can only give you answers." -P.
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References

   1. mailto:goodwinpantera at comcast.net
   2. mailto:detomaso at server.detomasolist.com
   3. http://w7tsc.org/
   4. http://www.teampanteraracing.com/
   5. https://youtu.be/o4Q06VvjuWI
   6. https://youtu.be/o4Q06VvjuWI
   7. mailto:spkorb at spkorb.org
   8. http://www.spkorb.org/
   9. mailto:DeTomaso at server.detomasolist.com
  10. http://server.detomasolist.com/mailman/listinfo/detomaso
  11. https://www.avg.com/
  12. mailto:DeTomaso at server.detomasolist.com
  13. http://server.detomasolist.com/mailman/listinfo/detomaso
  14. mailto:detomaso at server.detomasolist.com
  15. http://w7tsc.org/
  16. http://www.teampanteraracing.com/
  17. https://youtu.be/o4Q06VvjuWI
  18. https://youtu.be/o4Q06VvjuWI
  19. mailto:spkorb at spkorb.org
  20. http://www.spkorb.org/
  21. mailto:DeTomaso at server.detomasolist.com
  22. http://server.detomasolist.com/mailman/listinfo/detomaso
  23. https://www.avg.com/
  24. mailto:DeTomaso at server.detomasolist.com
  25. http://server.detomasolist.com/mailman/listinfo/detomaso
  26. mailto:[25]asajay at asajay.com?
  27. mailto:[26]detomaso at server.detomasolist.com?
  28. mailto:DeTomaso at server.detomasolist.com
  29. http://server.detomasolist.com/mailman/listinfo/detomaso
  30. mailto:detomaso at server.detomasolist?
  31. http://w7tsc.org/
  32. http://www.teampanteraracing.com/
  33. https://youtu.be/o4Q06VvjuWI
  34. https://youtu.be/o4Q06VvjuWI
  35. mailto:spkorb at spkorb.org?
  36. http://www.spkorb.org/
  37. mailto:DeTomaso at server.detomasolist?
  38. http://server.detomasolist.com/mailman/listinfo/detomaso
  39. https://www.avg.com/
  40. mailto:DeTomaso at server.detomasolist?
  41. http://server.detomasolist.com/mailman/listinfo/detomaso
  42. mailto:detomaso at server.detomasolist?
  43. http://w7tsc.org/
  44. http://www.teampanteraracing.com/
  45. https://youtu.be/o4Q06VvjuWI
  46. https://youtu.be/o4Q06VvjuWI
  47. mailto:spkorb at spkorb.org?
  48. http://www.spkorb.org/
  49. mailto:DeTomaso at server.detomasolist?
  50. http://server.detomasolist.com/mailman/listinfo/detomaso
  51. https://www.avg.com/
  52. mailto:DeTomaso at server.detomasolist?
  53. http://server.detomasolist.com/mailman/listinfo/detomaso
  54. mailto:asajay at asajay.com?
  55. mailto:detomaso at server.detomasolist?
  56. mailto:DeTomaso at server.detomasolist?
  57. http://server.detomasolist.com/mailman/listinfo/detomaso
  58. mailto:DeTomaso at server.detomasolist.com
  59. http://server.detomasolist.com/mailman/listinfo/detomaso
  60. mailto:DeTomaso at server.detomasolist.com
  61. http://server.detomasolist.com/mailman/listinfo/detomaso


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