[DeTomaso] What is this engine noise?

Mike Drew MikeLDrew at aol.com
Fri Aug 31 19:55:10 EDT 2018


Bearing noise from the front of the motor is usually the A/C idler pulley bearing (or alternator...)

Mike

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> On Aug 31, 2018, at 16:43, DAVID D GOODWIN <goodwinpantera at comcast.net> wrote:
> 
>   Maybe some sandpaper to all your pulleys grooves and then belt
>   dressing. I hope its not a bearing in the water pump!
> 
>   Cheers, David Goodwin
> 
>     On August 31, 2018 at 1:22 PM sean mundy wrote:
>     Spent a bunch more time over and under the engine without being able
>     to nail down the noise.
>     As a last resort I just sprayed some water on the belt. Surprisingly
>     the noise disappeared!
>     The belt is only a couple years old. Maybe I have it too tight. I
>     need to clean up the water that slung up all over my headliner :-(
>     I will let everything dry out and try it again later and see if the
>     squeal noise is back.
>     I will spray some water on it again and confirm that I found the
>     issue. Fingers crossed!!
>     From: Asa Jay Laughton
>     Sent: Thursday, August 30, 2018 10:03 PM
>     To: [1]detomaso at server.detomasolist.com
>     Stranger things...
>     Water pump
>     Alternator
>     A/C compressor
>     My first thought was that it sounded like a bearing, but not a rod
>     or
>     main or cam... like a ball bearing, like maybe the throwout bearing
>     in
>     the trans, or a pilot bearing/bushing. Then I thought about the list
>     above.
>     Then I thought Les might be onto it, but you said the baffles had
>     been
>     removed. Then I though maybe a vacuum leak at the carb or intake,
>     but
>     that would typically be rhythmic.
>     Be sure to let us know what you find.
>     Asa Jay
>     Asa Jay Laughton - W7TSC, MSgt, USAFR, Retired
>     Spokane County ARES-RACES Net Manager
>     ******************************
>     [2]http://w7tsc.org
>     [3]http://www.teampanteraracing.com
>     On 8/30/2018 18:06, sean mundy wrote:
> 
>     At first I noticed it after it was hot. I got home and it was not
>     making the noise anymore. I took the valve covers off cause it
>     seemed that might be where it was coming from. Got a lot of good
>     ideas of other things to check now. Thank you :)
> 
>     On Aug 30, 2018, at 5:55 PM, Sean Korb wrote:
>     It sounds fantastic! I had the subwoofer set up so at first I was
>     like
>     "what noise?" But the noise could be a tiny vacuum leak too making a
>     whistling noise. Maybe even whistling through the carburetor
>     venturis. It's a little shocking how much noise a carburetor
>     actually
>     makes, automakers would build baffles and play with air box size to
>     quell it. A smoke generator could show any leaks. Is the motor hot
>     or cold or it doesn't matter when you hear the noise?
>     I do like the baffle theory but I kind of expect it to be noisier.
>     The noise also sounds very familiar... like around old cars but
>     benign-ish. Honestly it seems weird to me that I don't know what it
>     is.
> 
>     On 8/30/18, sean mundy wrote:
>     I can not figure out what this noise is or where its exactly coming
>     from. I've checked the rocker arms and they are all tight.
>     I have roller rockers and lifters. Is this the sound if one of them
>     is
>     bad?
>     [1][4]https://youtu.be/o4Q06VvjuWI
>     References
>     1. [5]https://youtu.be/o4Q06VvjuWI
> 
>     --
>     Sean Korb [6]spkorb at spkorb.org [7]http://www.spkorb.org
>     '65 Suprang,'68 Cougar,'78 R100/7,'60 Metro,'59 A35,'71 Pantera
>     #1382
>     "The more you drive, the less intelligent you get" --Miller
>     "Computers are useless. They can only give you answers." -P. Picasso
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>     Spent a bunch more time over and under the engine without being able
>     to
>     nail down the noise.
>     As a last resort I just sprayed some water on the belt.
>     Surprisingly the noise disappeared!
>     The belt is only a couple years old. Maybe I have it too tight.
>     I need to clean up the water that slung up all over my headliner :-(
>     I will let everything dry out and try it again later and see if the
>     squeal noise is back.
>     I will spray some water on it again and confirm that I found the
>     issue. Fingers crossed!!
>     From: [1]Asa Jay Laughton
>     Sent: Thursday, August 30, 2018 10:03 PM
>     To: [2][13]detomaso at server.detomasolist.com
>     Stranger things...
>     Water pump
>     Alternator
>     A/C compressor
>     My first thought was that it sounded like a bearing, but not a rod
>     or
>     main or cam... like a ball bearing, like maybe the throwout bearing
>     in
>     the trans, or a pilot bearing/bushing. Then I thought about the list
>     above.
>     Then I thought Les might be onto it, but you said the baffles had
>     been
>     removed. Then I though maybe a vacuum leak at the carb or intake,
>     but
>     that would typically be rhythmic.
>     Be sure to let us know what you find.
>     Asa Jay
>     Asa Jay Laughton - W7TSC, MSgt, USAFR, Retired
>     Spokane County ARES-RACES Net Manager
>     ******************************
>     [14]http://w7tsc.org
>     [15]http://www.teampanteraracing.com
>     On 8/30/2018 18:06, sean mundy wrote: > At first I noticed it after
>     it was hot. I got home and it was not
>     making the noise anymore. I took the valve covers off cause it
>     seemed
>     that might be where it was coming from. Got a lot of good ideas of
>     other things to check now. Thank you :)
>> 
>> 
>> 
>>> On Aug 30, 2018, at 5:55 PM, Sean Korb wrote:
>>> 
>>> It sounds fantastic! I had the subwoofer set up so at first I was
>     like
>>> "what noise?" But the noise could be a tiny vacuum leak too
>     making a
>>> whistling noise. Maybe even whistling through the carburetor
>>> venturis. It's a little shocking how much noise a carburetor
>     actually
>>> makes, automakers would build baffles and play with air box size
>     to
>>> quell it. A smoke generator could show any leaks. Is the motor
>     hot
>>> or cold or it doesn't matter when you hear the noise?
>>> 
>>> I do like the baffle theory but I kind of expect it to be
>     noisier.
>>> The noise also sounds very familiar... like around old cars but
>>> benign-ish. Honestly it seems weird to me that I don't know what
>     it
>>> is.
>>> 
>>>> On 8/30/18, sean mundy wrote:
>>>> I can not figure out what this noise is or where its exactly
>     coming
>>>> from. I've checked the rocker arms and they are all tight.
>>>> I have roller rockers and lifters. Is this the sound if one of
>     them is
>>>> bad?
>>>> [1][16]https://youtu.be/o4Q06VvjuWI
>>>> 
>>>> References
>>>> 
>>>> 1. [17]https://youtu.be/o4Q06VvjuWI
>>>> 
>>> 
>>> --
>>> Sean Korb [18]spkorb at spkorb.org [19]http://www.spkorb.org
>>> '65 Suprang,'68 Cougar,'78 R100/7,'60 Metro,'59 A35,'71 Pantera
>     #1382
>>> "The more you drive, the less intelligent you get" --Miller
>>> "Computers are useless. They can only give you answers." -P.
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