[DeTomaso] De Tomaso mock ups sell for realistic prices

Emiliano Ballejos mghibli7 at hotmail.com
Thu Sep 7 15:49:20 EDT 2017 

I know of several that went through the recall.

Here is one of the articles that was written about it.

https://wheels.blogs.nytimes.com/2012/09/14/lamborghini-recalls-1500-gallardos-for-fire-hazard/

Regards,
Emiliano

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On Sep 7, 2017, at 1:42 PM, Scott Bell <scott at saccrestorations.net<mailto:scott at saccrestorations.net>> wrote:

Mike,

Ok so you are just generalizing because you heard of someone having a
problem and now you assume it is a huge problem for all Gallardo's.
("bursting into flames" with little provocation)

I did a Google search and didn't find much. In addition, I am very connected
to the Lamborghini world and have never heard of a problem with Gallardo's
bursting into flames.

I thought you actually had information about a known problem that Gallardo
owners should be aware of and apply some sort of fix...

As ASA would say, "never mind"

Scott

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Sent: Thursday, September 07, 2017 12:27 PM
To: Scott Bell
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Subject: Re: [DeTomaso] De Tomaso mock ups sell for realistic prices

Scott,

It's a thing they like to do. A friend had his go up because a power
steering hose burst and sprayed the exhaust. But they have several failure
modes.

Do a Google image search and you will see a bunch!

Mike

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On Sep 7, 2017, at 11:29, Scott Bell <scott at saccrestorations.net<mailto:scott at saccrestorations.net>> wrote:

Mike,

Can I get more information on the propensity of Lamborghini Gallardo's
"bursting into flames" with little provocation?

Scott

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To: Julian Kift
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Subject: Re: [DeTomaso] De Tomaso mock ups sell for realistic prices

Julian,

I don't think the Guara body was a production body. I think it was just a
clay or plastic mockup, but I'm not positive about that. You're right
though--if it was a genuine body it would have had considerable worth,
especially if it could be mated to one of the several burned-out Guaras that
are out there. (Guaras had defective fuel line plumbing, not unlike
Lamborghini Gallardos, and have shown an unfortunate propensity to burst
into flame with very little provocation....)

Mike

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On Sep 7, 2017, at 07:35, Julian Kift <julian_kift at hotmail.com<mailto:julian_kift at hotmail.com>> wrote:

Holy cow Batman, I'm sure the seller is devastated, I guess that's where
a 'no reserve' auction can bite you. But as they say value is what the
market determines and automobilia like this takes up a lot of space, the
Nuevo Pantera probably deserves to be in a museum.



At that price the Guara body may represent a cheap source of parts to
marry up with the burnt out shell of a Guara PIM still has for sale.


Julian

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Sent: Thursday, September 7, 2017 5:22 AM
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Subject: [DeTomaso] De Tomaso mock ups sell for realistic prices

Guys,

A few days ago we were speaking of the De Tomaso mock-up bodies that were
coming up for auction in Sotheby's in England. I reported that I believed
they had simply been snatched from the De Tomaso facility after having been
abandoned by De Tomaso, then tarted up and marketed by a hopeful punter who
was seeking something on the order of 100k Euros for the Nuevo Pantera.

After years of trying and failing to find a buyer, he put them up for
auction. The Guara was just a bare body with no chassis or wheels.  It was
estimated at $40-51k but sold for only $4,536. The Nuevo Pantera was
estimated at $90-116k but sold for only $20,737.

Both represent very realistic selling prices in my view.....

Mike

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   I know of several that went through the recall.

   Here is one of the articles that was written about it.

   [1]https://wheels.blogs.nytimes.com/2012/09/14/lamborghini-recalls-1500
   -gallardos-for-fire-hazard/

   Regards,

   Emiliano
   Sent from my iPhone

   On Sep 7, 2017, at 1:42 PM, Scott Bell <[2]scott at saccrestorations.net>
   wrote:

   Mike,
   Ok so you are just generalizing because you heard of someone having a
   problem and now you assume it is a huge problem for all Gallardo's.
   ("bursting into flames" with little provocation)
   I did a Google search and didn't find much. In addition, I am very
   connected
   to the Lamborghini world and have never heard of a problem with
   Gallardo's
   bursting into flames.
   I thought you actually had information about a known problem that
   Gallardo
   owners should be aware of and apply some sort of fix...
   As ASA would say, "never mind"
   Scott
   -----Original Message-----
   From: Mike Drew [[3]mailto:MikeLDrew at aol.com]
   Sent: Thursday, September 07, 2017 12:27 PM
   To: Scott Bell
   Cc: [4]detomaso at server.detomasolist.com
   Subject: Re: [DeTomaso] De Tomaso mock ups sell for realistic prices
   Scott,
   It's a thing they like to do. A friend had his go up because a power
   steering hose burst and sprayed the exhaust. But they have several
   failure
   modes.
   Do a Google image search and you will see a bunch!
   Mike
   Sent from my iPad

     On Sep 7, 2017, at 11:29, Scott Bell <[5]scott at saccrestorations.net>
     wrote:

     Mike,

     Can I get more information on the propensity of Lamborghini
     Gallardo's

   "bursting into flames" with little provocation?

     Scott

     -----Original Message-----

     From: DeTomaso [[6]mailto:detomaso-bounces at server.detomasolist.com]
     On Behalf

   Of Mike Drew via DeTomaso

     Sent: Thursday, September 07, 2017 5:41 AM

     To: Julian Kift

     Cc: [7]detomaso at server.detomasolist.com

     Subject: Re: [DeTomaso] De Tomaso mock ups sell for realistic prices

     Julian,

     I don't think the Guara body was a production body. I think it was
     just a

   clay or plastic mockup, but I'm not positive about that. You're right
   though--if it was a genuine body it would have had considerable worth,
   especially if it could be mated to one of the several burned-out Guaras
   that
   are out there. (Guaras had defective fuel line plumbing, not unlike
   Lamborghini Gallardos, and have shown an unfortunate propensity to
   burst
   into flame with very little provocation....)

     Mike

     Sent from my iPad

     On Sep 7, 2017, at 07:35, Julian Kift <[8]julian_kift at hotmail.com>
     wrote:

     Holy cow Batman, I'm sure the seller is devastated, I guess that's
     where

   a 'no reserve' auction can bite you. But as they say value is what the
   market determines and automobilia like this takes up a lot of space,
   the
   Nuevo Pantera probably deserves to be in a museum.

     At that price the Guara body may represent a cheap source of parts
     to

   marry up with the burnt out shell of a Guara PIM still has for sale.

     Julian

     From: DeTomaso <[9]detomaso-bounces at server.detomasolist.com> on
     behalf of

   Mike Drew via DeTomaso <[10]detomaso at server.detomasolist.com>

     Sent: Thursday, September 7, 2017 5:22 AM

     To: De Tomaso Forum

     Subject: [DeTomaso] De Tomaso mock ups sell for realistic prices

     Guys,

     A few days ago we were speaking of the De Tomaso mock-up bodies that
     were

   coming up for auction in Sotheby's in England. I reported that I
   believed
   they had simply been snatched from the De Tomaso facility after having
   been
   abandoned by De Tomaso, then tarted up and marketed by a hopeful punter
   who
   was seeking something on the order of 100k Euros for the Nuevo Pantera.

     After years of trying and failing to find a buyer, he put them up
     for

   auction. The Guara was just a bare body with no chassis or wheels.  It
   was
   estimated at $40-51k but sold for only $4,536. The Nuevo Pantera was
   estimated at $90-116k but sold for only $20,737.

     Both represent very realistic selling prices in my view.....

     Mike

     Sent from my iPad

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References

   1. https://wheels.blogs.nytimes.com/2012/09/14/lamborghini-recalls-1500-gallardos-for-fire-hazard/
   2. mailto:scott at saccrestorations.net
   3. mailto:MikeLDrew at aol.com
   4. mailto:detomaso at server.detomasolist.com
   5. mailto:scott at saccrestorations.net
   6. mailto:detomaso-bounces at server.detomasolist.com
   7. mailto:detomaso at server.detomasolist.com
   8. mailto:julian_kift at hotmail.com
   9. mailto:detomaso-bounces at server.detomasolist.com
  10. mailto:detomaso at server.detomasolist.com
  11. mailto:DeTomaso at server.detomasolist.com
  12. http://server.detomasolist.com/mailman/listinfo/detomaso
  13. http://server.detomasolist.com/
  14. mailto:DeTomaso at server.detomasolist.com
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