[DeTomaso] Kurt Busch Pantera

[Joseph F. Byrd, Jr.]

Opened up excel and for a 351 at 5000, the air comsumed would be 508cfm
If the scoop opening was 0.25 FtFt, 25 MPH would suffice.


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From: DeTomaso [mailto:detomaso-bounces at server.detomasolist.com] On Behalf Of Jeff Detrich
Sent: Sunday, November 19, 2017 11:04 AM
Cc: detomaso at server.detomasolist.com; JFFR
Subject: Re: [DeTomaso] Kurt Busch Pantera

So, let me make sure I understand. The theory is that the ears are pushing in more air than the engine would normally be pumping on its own at 5000 RPM? Seems that would have to be a whole lot more air to get above the pumping requirement of a Cleveland at 5000 RPM? I wonder where the breakeven point is, ie, at what speed does the duct enhance the pumping requirements of the engine?

On a side note, a lot of corvette guys that supercharge their engines use a water spritz in the air flow to cool it.

Jeff
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On Sun, Nov 19, 2017 at 8:01 AM, Rich Hoppe <richbhoppe at gmail.com> wrote:

> I have the small scoops on one of my cars with fuel injection.  I am 
> in Arizona.  I also get significant cooler temp with them.  My car 
> runs a lot better in the summer because of the cooler air.  I don’t 
> know or care about any ram air benefits at high speeds.  The cool air 
> benefit is what I was looking for. Rich
>
> Sent from my iPhone
>
> > On Nov 18, 2017, at 7:56 PM, JFFR <pantera at vtc.net> wrote:
> >
> > My car has small side scoops that replaced the side windows. They 
> > really
> don't stick out much at all, but they have four inch hoses that feed 
> air into a sealed air box. The only way that the engine can get air 
> into it is through the side scoops. There have been a number of people 
> that have seen this set up on my car at the last four Pantera fun 
> rallies. I have engine inlet air temperature readings in real time 
> that tell me what the air temperature is with the scoops attached and 
> with them unattached. My tests showed that the air is 40 degrees 
> hotter with the hoses unattached. With fuel injection and an on dash 
> monitor it is very easy to test this. The car will be at the next fun 
> rally wherever it will be and we can do some testing there.
> >
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