[DeTomaso] Techno question: L Pantera lower engine right angle cooling hose
cengles at cox.net
cengles at cox.net
Tue Mar 21 09:42:20 EDT 2017
Dear Doug,
Excellent comments. Again-- the best garage tools seem
to come from a lady's kitchen......!
Warmest regards, Chuck Engles
On Tue, Mar 21, 2017 at 12:58 AM, Doug wrote:
> For the #11014A, 90 degree hose, I prefer to cut a section from a
> readily
> available Gates # 21834 hose and only use 2 hose clamps rather than
> the
> previously suggested and heavier combination of a 90 degree copper
> elbow,
> two straight hoses and 4 clamps.
> Go faster with less weight!
>
> BTW: A very sharp meat carving knife works very well to cut these
> hoses -
> but don't let your wife catch you using the kitchen knife.
> I get around this (and gain Brownie points at the same time) by
> sharpening
> it without her having to ask me and then telling her I'm going to the
> garage
> to test it for her.
> And she's a good enough gear head's wife to let me think I'm fooling
> her.
>
> Doug Braun
> Blue 73L #5505
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: DeTomaso [mailto:detomaso-bounces at server.detomasolist.com] On
> Behalf
> Of Mike Drew via DeTomaso
> Sent: Sunday, March 19, 2017 2:11 PM
> To: Ken Green <kenn_green at yahoo.com>
> Cc: <detomaso at server.detomasolist.com>
> <detomaso at server.detomasolist.com>
> Subject: Re: [DeTomaso] Techno question: L Pantera lower engine right
> angle
> cooling hose
>
> Julian,
>
> Ack, no. That's the water pump inlet hose. He is talking about the 90
> degree
> (almost) hose that connects the outlet pipe from the bottom of the
> pressure
> tank to the right-side under-car pipe.
> The flaw in the water pump inlet hose is that it can rub on the shift
> linkage which wears a hole in it. Replacing a fat hose with a skinny
> pipe
> solves that problem. L-model and later cars came from the factory that
> way.
> Mike
>
> Sent from my iPad
>
>> On Mar 19, 2017, at 14:03, Ken Green via DeTomaso
> <detomaso at server.detomasolist.com> wrote:
>>
>> Do you mean this tube? I have a very vague recollection that metal
>> was
>> preferred because the rubber hose might collapse due to being hot
>> and
>> so close to the water pump inlet?
>> Inline image Inline image
>> __________________________________________________
>>
>> From: Mike Drew via DeTomaso <detomaso at server.detomasolist.com>
>> To: Charles Engles <cengles at cox.net>
>> Cc: "<detomaso at server.detomasolist.com>"
>> <detomaso at server.detomasolist.com>
>> Sent: Sunday, March 19, 2017 1:43 PM
>> Subject: Re: [DeTomaso] Techno question: L Pantera lower engine
>> right
>> angle cooling hose
>> Chuck,
>> If you try to order that alone from a vendor what you will likely
>> get
>> is a metal 90 and two straight sections of hose.
>> Mike
>> Sent from my iPhone
>>> On Mar 19, 2017, at 13:22, "Charles Engles" <[1]cengles at cox.net>
>>> wrote:
>>> Dear Mike, Chuck and Bud,
>>> See below:
>>>
>>> Chuck,
>>>
>>> All the hoses are the same size, except for the one that connects to
>> the
>>> water pump which is larger at the water pump end.
>>> $$$$$$ Right. All are 1 3/8"----except the water pump piece which
>> is 1
>>> 3/4" diameter.
>>>
>>>
>>> Significantly, the vendor water hose and pipe kits do away with that
>>> two-diameter hose, replacing it with a two-diameter metal pipe,
>> joined to
>>> the system with two short lengths of straight hose. (This was the
>> stock
>>> arrangement on the L model and later cars).
>>> $$$$$$$ Right, that is the arrangement on the L models and that
>> isn't the
>>> hose in question. It is the other one on the right side of the
>> engine that
>>> is a formed 90 degree bend 1 3/8" hose.
>>>
>>>
>>> Similarly, the oddly shaped hose you are referring to is replaced
>> with a
>>> simple 90-degree bent pipe and two short lengths of straight hose.
>>> $$$$$$ Hmmm. I think that I will fall back on PPC and order
>> another
>>> one. They've worked well for me for decades. I am amazed that a
>> big NAPA
>>> store with warehouse attached did not have one...or even on that
>> could be
>>> adapted or shortened to work. Sigh.
>>> Thanks all.
>>> Warmest regards, Chuck Engles
>>>
>>> Mike
>>>
>>> Sent from my iPad
>>>
>>>> On Mar 19, 2017, at 12:49, Charles Engles <[2]cengles at cox.net>
>>>> wrote:
>>>>
>>>> Dear Forum,
>>>>
>>>> I am starting an engine install and I was gathering new coolant
>>>> hose at NAPA. I thought that the lower
>> engine
>>>> ninety degree coolant hose would be easy to find there. I presumed
>>>> that it was 1 3/8".
>>>> I was disappointed because NAPA did not have
>>>> any hoses that would begin to fit the bill. The counter expert
>>>> also
>>>> told me that the hose is an odd size.
>>>> In my opinion the "odd size" was due to being
>>>> ever so slightly askew in the normal Pantera engine coolant hose
>>>> position and the rubber deformed over fifteen years.
>>>>
>>>> The Dumb Techno Question: the hose in question is a 1 3/8"
> hose----right?
>>>> Warmest regards, Chuck Engles
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