[DeTomaso] Tire Size
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Tue Mar 21 00:27:04 EDT 2017
Marino hasn't made wheels for some time.
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-------- Original message --------From: Asa Jay Laughton <asajay at asajay.com> Date: 3/21/17 12:14 AM (GMT-05:00) To: detomaso at server.detomasolist.com Subject: Re: [DeTomaso] Tire Size
Jut to add to Steve's thoughts,
For what it's worth, I ran Proxes R888 on the 7" and 8" stock magnesium
wheels for a couple of years. In my opinion they looked goofy on the
rear (and really threw off the speedometer). The front's look okay but
the rears are too small. They are great tires, but their profile is way
too low, with an overall diameter drastically reduced from stock in the
rear and they just don't fill the wheel well. Kinda makes the car look
like a roller skate, or skateboard (take your pick).
You can see a few photos here:
https://scontent-sea1-1.xx.fbcdn.net/v/t1.0-9/423331_377181778968263_322679426_n.jpg?oh=8dcfebf6524f2c37d6d9d70f973c73dc&oe=5960EAC4
https://scontent-sea1-1.xx.fbcdn.net/v/t1.0-9/198541_204249359594840_3542880_n.jpg?oh=8e713466d93cd6342f107017001956fb&oe=5969A5D5
https://scontent-sea1-1.xx.fbcdn.net/v/t1.0-9/185554_247942678558841_4972272_n.jpg?oh=cd199de55adf9bd083b85e3ceb897c0c&oe=59601447
If you just need street tires, I think there are other options that
would look a lot better, but they won't be rated for high speeds in
excess of 140 MPH or so.
For racing in the Silver State, I bought 17 and 18" wheels and then put
good z-rated rubber on that met the same stock diameter. You can see a
photo of that here:
https://scontent-sea1-1.xx.fbcdn.net/v/t31.0-8/241317_477871052232668_835863716_o.jpg?oh=f5e28c609b51fd51c0989635e992bfa2&oe=5973C046
If you like the Campy's (and who wouldn't), I would encourage you to
invest in a set of vendor supplied Campy clones in a larger diameter,
probably 17 and 18. If I had the money, I would go for a set from
Marino Perna of Pantera East.
Just my two cents,
Asa
Asa Jay Laughton - W7TSC, MSgt, USAFR, Retired
& Shelley Marie
Spokane, WA
******************************
http://w7tsc.org
http://www.teampanteraracing.com
On 3/20/2017 6:19 PM, Steve Lisa wrote:
> Mark,A
> Happy to share, and hope to get more involved as I progress with AJ's
> Pantera.A I promised him it was in good hands!
> The files are a bit personalized for my need -- vintage/hill climb
> racing -- if you have any questions, please just email or call me.A I
> am more than happy to get on the phone and walk through the
> spreadsheet.A If people think its worthwhile, I will clean it up and
> recirculate -- I didn't label things very clearly.A
> I was looking for two options:
> 1. First, tires to run on 7 (front) and 8 (rear) inch rim sets (for
> proper vintage).
> 2. Second, tires to run on 8 (front) and 10 (rear) inch rim sets (for
> hill climbs, NASA, SCCA ITE, less proper vintage). A a
>
> I gave options for "streetable" track tires, DOT race tires, and
> vintage-approved race tires.A For now, I am experimenting.A So please
> excuse mistakes. A
>
> Regards,A
> Steven G. Lisa, Esq.
> Email: SteveLisa at PatentIt.com
> Direct: 312-320-5888
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> On Mon, Mar 20, 2017 at 5:46 PM, Mark Peterson
> <[3]petersonmr06 at yahoo.com> wrote:
>
> Thanks Steve. Good luck next month. Mark 1789
> Sent via BlackBerry by AT&T
> __________________________________________________________________
>
> From: Steve Lisa<[4]stevelisa at patentit.com>
> Date: Mon, 20 Mar 2017 17:16:44 -0700
> To: mark peterson<[5]petersonmr06 at yahoo.com>
> Cc: List DeTomaso Forum<[6]detomaso at server.detomasolist.com>
> Subject: Re: [DeTomaso] Tire Size
> Mark:
> Sa
> ee my research attached.A Since
> aIa
> A am racing
> aAsa Jay's old
> A pantera
> a (starting April 14-16 at Portland International Raceway)a
> , I ca
> alled
> Bassett and had the
> aindicated a7, 8 and 10 inch wideA
> wheels made
> a (rather than racing the magnesium wheels)a. A I
> A ordered the Hoosier R7
> a tires as indicated, and also ordered some Hooser TDA's as
> indicated.A I intend to try the R7's on the 7 and 8 inch wheels, and
> will switch over to the Hoosier TDS on the 8 and 10 inch wheels.A We
> will be doing a Test Day on Thursday, Racing SCCA in ITE Friday and
> Saturday (if they let us in).A It is a bit of "first test" weekend for
> us.A
> If I was wanting a street/track tire, I would have done the Proxes R888
> on the 7 and 8 inch Bassett D-Hole wheels A I suspect they would fit
> the original wheels. A
> a
> Other available options are indicated
> a with links.
> a
> a
> a
> I will follow up with what I find on the tires/wheels.
> a
> I attached the files in Google worksheet and XCEL. A
> I am not sure any of it is right or that is all that helpful.A I tend
> to learn by making mistakes.A But, it does compile what is available.
> A a
> A A
> [7][icon_11_spreadsheet_list.png] A Pantera Wheel and Tire worksheet
> Regards,
> Steven G. Lisa, Esq.
>
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Marino hasn't made wheels for some time.
Sent from my Verizon, Samsung Galaxy smartphone
-------- Original message --------
From: Asa Jay Laughton <asajay at asajay.com>
Date: 3/21/17 12:14 AM (GMT-05:00)
To: detomaso at server.detomasolist.com
Subject: Re: [DeTomaso] Tire Size
Jut to add to Steve's thoughts,
For what it's worth, I ran Proxes R888 on the 7" and 8" stock magnesium
wheels for a couple of years. In my opinion they looked goofy on the
rear (and really threw off the speedometer). The front's look okay but
the rears are too small. They are great tires, but their profile is
way
too low, with an overall diameter drastically reduced from stock in the
rear and they just don't fill the wheel well. Kinda makes the car look
like a roller skate, or skateboard (take your pick).
You can see a few photos here:
https://scontent-sea1-1.xx.fbcdn.net/v/t1.0-9/423331_377181778968263_32
2679426_n.jpg?oh=8dcfebf6524f2c37d6d9d70f973c73dc&oe=5960EAC4
https://scontent-sea1-1.xx.fbcdn.net/v/t1.0-9/198541_204249359594840_35
42880_n.jpg?oh=8e713466d93cd6342f107017001956fb&oe=5969A5D5
https://scontent-sea1-1.xx.fbcdn.net/v/t1.0-9/185554_247942678558841_49
72272_n.jpg?oh=cd199de55adf9bd083b85e3ceb897c0c&oe=59601447
If you just need street tires, I think there are other options that
would look a lot better, but they won't be rated for high speeds in
excess of 140 MPH or so.
For racing in the Silver State, I bought 17 and 18" wheels and then put
good z-rated rubber on that met the same stock diameter. You can see a
photo of that here:
https://scontent-sea1-1.xx.fbcdn.net/v/t31.0-8/241317_477871052232668_8
35863716_o.jpg?oh=f5e28c609b51fd51c0989635e992bfa2&oe=5973C046
If you like the Campy's (and who wouldn't), I would encourage you to
invest in a set of vendor supplied Campy clones in a larger diameter,
probably 17 and 18. If I had the money, I would go for a set from
Marino Perna of Pantera East.
Just my two cents,
Asa
Asa Jay Laughton - W7TSC, MSgt, USAFR, Retired
& Shelley Marie
Spokane, WA
******************************
http://w7tsc.org
http://www.teampanteraracing.com
On 3/20/2017 6:19 PM, Steve Lisa wrote:
> Mark,A
> Happy to share, and hope to get more involved as I progress with
AJ's
> Pantera.A I promised him it was in good hands!
> The files are a bit personalized for my need -- vintage/hill
climb
> racing -- if you have any questions, please just email or call
me.A I
> am more than happy to get on the phone and walk through the
> spreadsheet.A If people think its worthwhile, I will clean it up
and
> recirculate -- I didn't label things very clearly.A
> I was looking for two options:
> 1. First, tires to run on 7 (front) and 8 (rear) inch rim sets
(for
> proper vintage).
> 2. Second, tires to run on 8 (front) and 10 (rear) inch rim sets
(for
> hill climbs, NASA, SCCA ITE, less proper vintage). A a
>
> I gave options for "streetable" track tires, DOT race tires, and
> vintage-approved race tires.A For now, I am experimenting.A So
please
> excuse mistakes. A
>
> Regards,A
> Steven G. Lisa, Esq.
> Email: SteveLisa at PatentIt.com
> Direct: 312-320-5888
> [1][SGL-Email-Logo.jpg]
>
> Please note our new Scottsdale address.A Our phone and fax
numbers
> remain the same.
>
> Scottsdale OfficeA |A P:A 480.535.6656A |A A F:A 480.535.6628A
> |A A A:A 7689 East Paradise Lane, Suite 2, Scottsdale, AZ 85260
>
> Chicago OfficeA |A P: 312.752.4357A |A F: 312.896.5633A |A A:
55 E.
> Monroe Street, Suite 3800, Chicago, IL 60603
> [2]www.PatentIt.com
> This email is confidential and privileged, and intended only for
the
> recipient above. If you received this email in error, please
destroy
> all copies of it and indicate such by return email to me. Thank
you.
> On Mon, Mar 20, 2017 at 5:46 PM, Mark Peterson
> <[3]petersonmr06 at yahoo.com> wrote:
>
> Thanks Steve. Good luck next month. Mark 1789
> Sent via BlackBerry by AT&T
>
__________________________________________________________________
>
> From: Steve Lisa<[4]stevelisa at patentit.com>
> Date: Mon, 20 Mar 2017 17:16:44 -0700
> To: mark peterson<[5]petersonmr06 at yahoo.com>
> Cc: List DeTomaso Forum<[6]detomaso at server.detomasolist.com>
> Subject: Re: [DeTomaso] Tire Size
> Mark:
> Sa
> ee my research attached.A Since
> aIa
> A am racing
> aAsa Jay's old
> A pantera
> a (starting April 14-16 at Portland International Raceway)a
> , I ca
> alled
> Bassett and had the
> aindicated a7, 8 and 10 inch wideA
> wheels made
> a (rather than racing the magnesium wheels)a. A I
> A ordered the Hoosier R7
> a tires as indicated, and also ordered some Hooser TDA's as
> indicated.A I intend to try the R7's on the 7 and 8 inch wheels,
and
> will switch over to the Hoosier TDS on the 8 and 10 inch
wheels.A We
> will be doing a Test Day on Thursday, Racing SCCA in ITE Friday
and
> Saturday (if they let us in).A It is a bit of "first test"
weekend for
> us.A
> If I was wanting a street/track tire, I would have done the
Proxes R888
> on the 7 and 8 inch Bassett D-Hole wheels A I suspect they would
fit
> the original wheels. A
> a
> Other available options are indicated
> a with links.
> a
> a
> a
> I will follow up with what I find on the tires/wheels.
> a
> I attached the files in Google worksheet and XCEL. A
> I am not sure any of it is right or that is all that helpful.A I
tend
> to learn by making mistakes.A But, it does compile what is
available.
> A a
> A A
> [7][icon_11_spreadsheet_list.png] A Pantera Wheel and Tire
worksheet
> Regards,
> Steven G. Lisa, Esq.
>
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