[DeTomaso] Tire Size
Asa Jay Laughton
asajay at asajay.com
Tue Mar 21 10:01:35 EDT 2017
I'll look up the size when I get home. :)
Asa
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Steve Lisa <stevelisa at patentit.com> wrote:
>I agree with AJ...street tires in 15 inch at the right tire diameters of the early Panteras are hard to find. The closest to 1972 specs for a 15 inch wheel are the Hoosier TDS and Avons race tires. Neither are streetable for every day use.
>
>
>Intersting observation: the later year tires stock were much smaller diameter than early years. AJ, what size Proxes did you run????
>
>
>Btw....we are still running the wheel and tire combo you had for the Silver State for my son-in-law....who is doing basic open track. That was a nice set up short of racing, but I can't use it for vintage.
>
>
>Regards,
>
>Steven G. Lisa, Esq.
>Email: SteveLisa at PatentIt.com
>Direct: 312-320-5888
>
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>On Mar 20, 2017 9:14 PM, "Asa Jay Laughton" <asajay at asajay.com> wrote:
>
>Jut to add to Steve's thoughts,
>
>For what it's worth, I ran Proxes R888 on the 7" and 8" stock magnesium wheels for a couple of years. In my opinion they looked goofy on the rear (and really threw off the speedometer). The front's look okay but the rears are too small. They are great tires, but their profile is way too low, with an overall diameter drastically reduced from stock in the rear and they just don't fill the wheel well. Kinda makes the car look like a roller skate, or skateboard (take your pick).
>
>You can see a few photos here:
>https://scontent-sea1-1.xx.fbcdn.net/v/t1.0-9/423331_377181778968263_322679426_n.jpg?oh=8dcfebf6524f2c37d6d9d70f973c73dc&oe=5960EAC4
>
>https://scontent-sea1-1.xx.fbcdn.net/v/t1.0-9/198541_204249359594840_3542880_n.jpg?oh=8e713466d93cd6342f107017001956fb&oe=5969A5D5
>
>https://scontent-sea1-1.xx.fbcdn.net/v/t1.0-9/185554_247942678558841_4972272_n.jpg?oh=cd199de55adf9bd083b85e3ceb897c0c&oe=59601447
>
>If you just need street tires, I think there are other options that would look a lot better, but they won't be rated for high speeds in excess of 140 MPH or so.
>
>For racing in the Silver State, I bought 17 and 18" wheels and then put good z-rated rubber on that met the same stock diameter. You can see a photo of that here:
>https://scontent-sea1-1.xx.fbcdn.net/v/t31.0-8/241317_477871052232668_835863716_o.jpg?oh=f5e28c609b51fd51c0989635e992bfa2&oe=5973C046
>
>If you like the Campy's (and who wouldn't), I would encourage you to invest in a set of vendor supplied Campy clones in a larger diameter, probably 17 and 18. If I had the money, I would go for a set from Marino Perna of Pantera East.
>
>Just my two cents,
>Asa
>
>Asa Jay Laughton - W7TSC, MSgt, USAFR, Retired
>& Shelley Marie
>Spokane, WA
>******************************
>http://w7tsc.org
>http://www.teampanteraracing.com
>
>
>On 3/20/2017 6:19 PM, Steve Lisa wrote:
>
> Mark,A
> Happy to share, and hope to get more involved as I progress with AJ's
> Pantera.A I promised him it was in good hands!
> The files are a bit personalized for my need -- vintage/hill climb
> racing -- if you have any questions, please just email or call me.A I
> am more than happy to get on the phone and walk through the
> spreadsheet.A If people think its worthwhile, I will clean it up and
> recirculate -- I didn't label things very clearly.A
> I was looking for two options:
> 1. First, tires to run on 7 (front) and 8 (rear) inch rim sets (for
> proper vintage).
> 2. Second, tires to run on 8 (front) and 10 (rear) inch rim sets (for
> hill climbs, NASA, SCCA ITE, less proper vintage). A a
>
> I gave options for "streetable" track tires, DOT race tires, and
> vintage-approved race tires.A For now, I am experimenting.A So please
> excuse mistakes. A
>
> Regards,A
> Steven G. Lisa, Esq.
> Email: SteveLisa at PatentIt.com
> Direct: 312-320-5888
> [1][SGL-Email-Logo.jpg]
>
> Please note our new Scottsdale address.A Our phone and fax numbers
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> |A A A:A 7689 East Paradise Lane, Suite 2, Scottsdale, AZ 85260
>
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> On Mon, Mar 20, 2017 at 5:46 PM, Mark Peterson
> <[3]petersonmr06 at yahoo.com> wrote:
>
> Thanks Steve. Good luck next month. Mark 1789
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>
> From: Steve Lisa<[4]stevelisa at patentit.com>
> Date: Mon, 20 Mar 2017 17:16:44 -0700
> To: mark peterson<[5]petersonmr06 at yahoo.com>
> Cc: List DeTomaso Forum<[6]detomaso at server.detomasolist.com>
> Subject: Re: [DeTomaso] Tire Size
> Mark:
> Sa
> ee my research attached.A Since
> aIa
> A am racing
> aAsa Jay's old
> A pantera
> a (starting April 14-16 at Portland International Raceway)a
> , I ca
> alled
> Bassett and had the
> aindicated a7, 8 and 10 inch wideA
> wheels made
> a (rather than racing the magnesium wheels)a. A I
> A ordered the Hoosier R7
> a tires as indicated, and also ordered some Hooser TDA's as
> indicated.A I intend to try the R7's on the 7 and 8 inch wheels, and
> will switch over to the Hoosier TDS on the 8 and 10 inch wheels.A We
> will be doing a Test Day on Thursday, Racing SCCA in ITE Friday and
> Saturday (if they let us in).A It is a bit of "first test" weekend for
> us.A
> If I was wanting a street/track tire, I would have done the Proxes R888
> on the 7 and 8 inch Bassett D-Hole wheels A I suspect they would fit
> the original wheels. A
> a
> Other available options are indicated
> a with links.
> a
> a
> a
> I will follow up with what I find on the tires/wheels.
> a
> I attached the files in Google worksheet and XCEL. A
> I am not sure any of it is right or that is all that helpful.A I tend
> to learn by making mistakes.A But, it does compile what is available.
> A a
> A A
> [7][icon_11_spreadsheet_list.png] A Pantera Wheel and Tire worksheet
> Regards,
> Steven G. Lisa, Esq.
>
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I'll look up the size when I get home. :)
Asa
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Steve Lisa <stevelisa at patentit.com> wrote:
I agree with AJ...street tires in 15 inch at the right tire diameters
of the early Panteras are hard to find.A The closest to 1972 specs for
a 15 inch wheel are the Hoosier TDS and Avons race tires.A Neither are
streetable for every day use.
Intersting observation: A the later year tires stock were much smaller
diameter than early years.A AJ, what size Proxes did you run????
Btw....we are still running the wheel and tire combo you had for the
Silver State for my son-in-law....who is doing basic open track.A That
was a nice set up short of racing, but I can't use it for vintage.A
Regards,
Steven G. Lisa, Esq.
Email: SteveLisa at PatentIt.com
Direct: 312-320-5888
Scottsdale Office | P: 480.535.6656A |A F: 480.535.6628A |A A: 7689
E. Paradise Lane, Suite 2, Scottsdale, AZ 85260
Chicago Office | P: 312.752.4357A |A F: 312.896.5633A |A A: 55 E.
Monroe Street, Suite 3800, Chicago, IL 60603
On Mar 20, 2017 9:14 PM, "Asa Jay Laughton" <[1]asajay at asajay.com>
wrote:
Jut to add to Steve's thoughts,
For what it's worth, I ran Proxes R888 on the 7" and 8" stock
magnesium wheels for a couple of years.A In my opinion they looked
goofy on the rear (and really threw off the speedometer).A The
front's look okay but the rears are too small.A They are great
tires, but their profile is way too low, with an overall diameter
drastically reduced from stock in the rear and they just don't fill
the wheel well.A Kinda makes the car look like a roller skate, or
skateboard (take your pick).
You can see a few photos here:
[2]https://scontent-sea1-1.xx.fbcdn.net/v/t1.0-9/423331_3771817
78968263_322679426_n.jpg?oh=8dcfebf6524f2c37d6d9d70f973c73dc
&oe=5960EAC4
[3]https://scontent-sea1-1.xx.fbcdn.net/v/t1.0-9/198541_2042493
59594840_3542880_n.jpg?oh=8e713466d93cd6342f107017001956fb&
oe=5969A5D5
[4]https://scontent-sea1-1.xx.fbcdn.net/v/t1.0-9/185554_2479426
78558841_4972272_n.jpg?oh=cd199de55adf9bd083b85e3ceb897c0c&
oe=59601447
If you just need street tires, I think there are other options that
would look a lot better, but they won't be rated for high speeds in
excess of 140 MPH or so.
For racing in the Silver State, I bought 17 and 18" wheels and then
put good z-rated rubber on that met the same stock diameter.A You
can see a photo of that here:
[5]https://scontent-sea1-1.xx.fbcdn.net/v/t31.0-8/241317_477871
052232668_835863716_o.jpg?oh=f5e28c609b51fd51c0989635e992bfa
2&oe=5973C046
If you like the Campy's (and who wouldn't), I would encourage you to
invest in a set of vendor supplied Campy clones in a larger
diameter, probably 17 and 18.A If I had the money, I would go for a
set from Marino Perna of Pantera East.
Just my two cents,
Asa
Asa Jay Laughton - W7TSC, MSgt, USAFR, Retired
&A Shelley Marie
Spokane, WA
******************************
[6]http://w7tsc.org
[7]http://www.teampanteraracing.com
On 3/20/2017 6:19 PM, Steve Lisa wrote:
A A Mark,A
A A Happy to share, and hope to get more involved as I progress
with AJ's
A A Pantera.AA I promised him it was in good hands!
A A The files are a bit personalized for my need -- vintage/hill
climb
A A racing -- if you have any questions, please just email or call
me.AA I
A A am more than happy to get on the phone and walk through the
A A spreadsheet.AA If people think its worthwhile, I will clean
it up and
A A recirculate -- I didn't label things very clearly.A
A A I was looking for two options:
A A A 1. First, tires to run on 7 (front) and 8 (rear) inch rim
sets (for
A A A A proper vintage).
A A A 2. Second, tires to run on 8 (front) and 10 (rear) inch rim
sets (for
A A A A hill climbs, NASA, SCCA ITE, less proper vintage). A a
A A I gave options for "streetable" track tires, DOT race tires,
and
A A vintage-approved race tires.AA For now, I am
experimenting.AA So please
A A excuse mistakes. A
A A Regards,A
A A Steven G. Lisa, Esq.
A A Email: SteveLisa at PatentIt.com
A A Direct: [8]312-320-5888
A A [1][SGL-Email-Logo.jpg]
A A Please note our new Scottsdale address.AA Our phone and fax
numbers
A A remain the same.
A A Scottsdale OfficeA |A P:A 480.535.6656AA |A A F:A
480.535.6628A
A A |A A A:A 7689 East Paradise Lane, Suite 2, Scottsdale, AZ
85260
A A Chicago OfficeA |A P: 312.752.4357AA |AA F: 312.896.5633AA
|AA A: 55 E.
A A Monroe Street, Suite 3800, Chicago, IL 60603
A A [2][9]www.PatentIt.com
A A This email is confidential and privileged, and intended only
for the
A A recipient above. If you received this email in error, please
destroy
A A all copies of it and indicate such by return email to me.
Thank you.
A A On Mon, Mar 20, 2017 at 5:46 PM, Mark Peterson
A A <[3][10]petersonmr06 at yahoo.com>A wrote:
A A Thanks Steve. Good luck next month. Mark 1789
A A Sent via BlackBerry by AT&T
A A A ______________________________
____________________________________
A A From: Steve Lisa<[4][11]stevelisa at patentit.com>
A A Date: Mon, 20 Mar 2017 17:16:44 -0700
A A To: mark peterson<[5][12]petersonmr06 at yahoo.com>
A A Cc: List DeTomaso Forum<[6][13]detomaso at server.detom
asolist.com>
A A Subject: Re: [DeTomaso] Tire Size
A A Mark:
A A Sa
A A ee my research attached.AA Since
A A aIa
A A A am racing
A A aAsa Jay's old
A A A pantera
A A a (starting April 14-16 at Portland International Raceway)a
A A , I ca
A A alled
A A Bassett and had the
A A aindicated a7, 8 and 10 inch wideA
A A wheels made
A A a (rather than racing the magnesium wheels)a. A I
A A A ordered the Hoosier R7
A A a tires as indicated, and also ordered some Hooser TDA's as
A A indicated.AA I intend to try the R7's on the 7 and 8 inch
wheels, and
A A will switch over to the Hoosier TDS on the 8 and 10 inch
wheels.AA We
A A will be doing a Test Day on Thursday, Racing SCCA in ITE
Friday and
A A Saturday (if they let us in).AA It is a bit of "first test"
weekend for
A A us.A
A A If I was wanting a street/track tire, I would have done the
Proxes R888
A A on the 7 and 8 inch Bassett D-Hole wheels A I suspect they
would fit
A A the original wheels. A
A A a
A A Other available options are indicated
A A a with links.
A A a
A A a
A A a
A A I will follow up with what I find on the tires/wheels.
A A a
A A I attached the files in Google worksheet and XCEL. A
A A I am not sure any of it is right or that is all that
helpful.AA I tend
A A to learn by making mistakes.AA But, it does compile what is
available.
A A A a
A A A A
A A [7][icon_11_spreadsheet_list.png] A Pantera Wheel and Tire
worksheet
A A Regards,
A A Steven G. Lisa, Esq.
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