[DeTomaso] 2018 POCA Fun Rally
Jeff Detrich
jjdetrich at gmail.com
Sat Dec 16 12:12:03 EST 2017
HAHAHA. Here we go again.
Jeff
6559
On Fri, Dec 15, 2017 at 6:50 PM, Effie Richards <
erichards at zogob.sdcoxmail.com> wrote:
> All POCA board members and regular members,
> Please read Ed’s explanation below and be aware of the fact that you have
> lied to us, we know it and we don’t like it.
> Enough said.
>
> Sent from Effie's iPad
>
> > On Dec 15, 2017, at 10:52 AM, Ed Mendez <edducati at mac.com> wrote:
> >
> > By the way,
> >
> > I want to point something out because there are a few misconceptions
> > out there. This is posted on the [1]www.poca.com website:
> >
> > =====
> >
> > The POCA BOD decided to go to Las Vegas because we did not have anyone
> > that could facilitate the event in Monterey. The D'Orazios cannot
> > attend May 16-June 3 and Josette runs the store and is in Charge of
> > membership registration. No-One volunteered to run the event. We were
> > ready to vote on Monterey if anyone volunteered to do so....No-One came
> > forward. ......the alternative was Las Vegas at the Orleans / new
> > Boutique hotel with dates that we all could attend and host. The
> > proposal was voted on that said Las Vegas in 2018 and Monterey in 2019.
> > We are still negotiating with two Las Vegas Hotels.....details shortly.
> > Las Vegas will feature an event at SpeedVegas, Antique Auto Museum tour
> > , Car Show and Banquet Dinner.
> > Respectfully trying to get the word out.
> > Gerry Romack
> >
> > =====
> >
> > I was asked at the banquet at the last Fun Rally if I would do Monterey
> > again, I said yes absolutely, so I was making plans to make an even
> > better event, only to find out that actions were being taken to go to
> > Las Vegas despite all of my efforts to go forward with Monterey. I was
> > elected by the POCA board to be the Fun Rally Committee and as such it
> > was evident to me that Las Vegas would not be a viable option. Despite
> > my disagreement with ever going back to Las Vegas plans were being made
> > without my involvement what so ever. In addition, Monterey was being
> > looked at by John Tomlin of PCNC without my involvement, I also found
> > this out after the fact. It became clear that I was not wanted as the
> > Fun Rally Committee and my opinions did not matter any longer. This is
> > why 1 month ago I stepped down from as Fun Rally Committee Chairman.
> >
> > I was 100% completely ready to do another Monterey, and have always let
> > the board know this. As a matter of fact, the POCA survey that was put
> > out; Monterey was the number 1 choice. The excuses that the SCCA could
> > not give us the track event in writing is hog wash, the SCCA event has
> > been held that same weekend for the last 5 years and my contact at SCCA
> > told me last July that it would be the same weekend in 2018. I told the
> > board this information. Monterey kept getting put off so we lost the
> > big ballroom at the Hyatt, but the hotel gave me an alternate that
> > could have worked, I actually drove up to Monterey 6 weeks ago and had
> > a look. So I was ready to go and things were stalled as Vegas was being
> > planned.
> >
> > So saying that no one stepped forward or volunteered to do Monterey
> > again if completely false.
> >
> > I am wondering why is it that every successful Fun Rally the people
> > that are asked to volunteer their time to do an epic event never want
> > to do it again, hence ask Gil Mares about Phoenix, ask Marshall Smith
> > about San Diego. Gil actually quit POCA and SDP will never do another
> > event.
> >
> > After the board vote to go back to Las Vegas on Dec. 8th, I decided to
> > step down as Public Relations Director from the POCA board and for the
> > sake of the DeTomaso community I was going to do Monterey again in
> > 2018. I stepped down because it would have been seen as a conflict
> > of interest It was not a spiteful act, it is for the further
> > enrichment of the marque and the people that stand behind it, it is why
> > I chose Forza DeTomaso - The Force behind the Marque.
> >
> > I just want to be clear about this because the above statement is
> > really insulting.
> >
> > Kind regards,
> >
> > Ed
> >
> > On Dec 15, 2017, at 09:23, Ed Mendez <[2]edducati at mac.com> wrote:
> >
> > Thank you Julian, for those that don't know.
> > I am having an event back in Monterey for 2018, with fun and runs,
> > drive your Pantera at Laguna Seca, Concourse Car Show on the green,
> > Bruce Canepa shop tour, and 17 mile drive! if you missed the event
> > this
> > years event you won't want to miss next years. May 30th - June 3rd,
> > 2018. Special rates at the Hyatt of only $189 for participants look
> > for
> > upcoming details at [1][3]www.forzadetomaso.com. including your
> > chance to
> > win in our raffle to have your car featured in our 2019 Forza
> > DeTomaso
> > Bikini Calendar.
> > [[4]cid:3A4AED9E-437C-414E-A311-E0C77755486D]
> > On Dec 15, 2017, at 08:42, Julian Kift
> > <[2][5]julian_kift at hotmail.com>
> > wrote:
> > I understand there will be a track event the same as last year
> > where
> > the SCCA are having Regional event at Laguna Seca and there will be
> > pace laps available during lunch.
> > Wait sorry, that's the 'other' Forza De Tomaso Rally in Monterey
> > that
> > has more than just "Fun" in the title.....
> > Julian
> > ____________________________________________________________
> _____
> > _
> > From: DeTomaso <[3][6]detomaso-bounces at server.detomasolist.com> on
> > behalf of
> > Dan Courtney <[4][7]dan at excaliburre.com>
> > Sent: Thursday, December 14, 2017 10:11 PM
> > To: [5][8]detomaso at server.detomasolist.com
> > Subject: [DeTomaso] 2018 POCA Fun Rally
> > Will there be a track event this year?
> > Dan
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> > 1. http://www.poca.com/
> > 2. mailto:edducati at mac.com
> > 3. http://www.forzadetomaso.com/
> > 4. cid:3A4AED9E-437C-414E-A311-E0C77755486D
> > 5. mailto:julian_kift at hotmail.com
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> > 13. mailto:detomaso-bounces at server.detomasolist.com
> > 14. mailto:dan at excaliburre.com
> > 15. mailto:detomaso at server.detomasolist.com
> > 16. mailto:DeTomaso at server.detomasolist.com
> > 17. mailto:DeTomaso at server.detomasolist.com
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> >
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HAHAHA. Here we go again.
Jeff
6559
On Fri, Dec 15, 2017 at 6:50 PM, Effie Richards
<[1]erichards at zogob.sdcoxmail.com> wrote:
All POCA board members and regular members,
Please read Edas explanation below and be aware of the fact thatA
you have lied to us, we know it and we donat like it.
Enough said.
Sent from Effie's iPad
> On Dec 15, 2017, at 10:52 AM, Ed Mendez <[2]edducati at mac.com> wrote:
>
>A A By the way,
>
>A A I want to point something out because there are a few
misconceptions
>A A out there. This is posted on the [1][3]www.poca.com website:
>
>A A =====
>
>A A The POCA BOD decided to go to Las Vegas because we did not have
anyone
>A A that could facilitate the event in Monterey. The D'Orazios cannot
>A A attend May 16-June 3 and Josette runs the store and is in Charge
of
>A A membership registration. No-One volunteered to run the event. We
were
>A A ready to vote on Monterey if anyone volunteered to do
so....No-One came
>A A forward. ......the alternative was Las Vegas at the Orleans / new
>A A Boutique hotel with dates that we all could attend and host. The
>A A proposal was voted on that said Las Vegas in 2018 and Monterey in
2019.
>A A We are still negotiating with two Las Vegas Hotels.....details
shortly.
>A A Las Vegas will feature an event at SpeedVegas, Antique Auto
Museum tour
>A A , Car Show and Banquet Dinner.
>A A Respectfully trying to get the word out.
>A A Gerry Romack
>
>A A =====
>
>A A I was asked at the banquet at the last Fun Rally if I would do
Monterey
>A A again, I said yes absolutely, so I was making plans to make an
even
>A A better event, only to find out that actions were being taken to
go to
>A A Las Vegas despite all of my efforts to go forward with Monterey.
I was
>A A elected by the POCA board to be the Fun Rally Committee and as
such it
>A A was evident to me that Las Vegas would not be a viable option.
Despite
>A A my disagreement with ever going back to Las Vegas plans were
being made
>A A without my involvement what so ever. In addition, Monterey was
being
>A A looked at by John Tomlin of PCNC without my involvement, I also
found
>A A this out after the fact. It became clear that I was not wanted as
the
>A A Fun Rally Committee and my opinions did not matter any longer.
This is
>A A why 1 month ago I stepped down from as Fun Rally Committee
Chairman.
>
>A A I was 100% completely ready to do another Monterey, and have
always let
>A A the board know this. As a matter of fact, the POCA survey that
was put
>A A out; Monterey was the number 1 choice. The excuses that the SCCA
could
>A A not give us the track event in writing is hog wash, the SCCA
event has
>A A been held that same weekend for the last 5 years and my contact
at SCCA
>A A told me last July that it would be the same weekend in 2018. I
told the
>A A board this information. Monterey kept getting put off so we lost
the
>A A big ballroom at the Hyatt, but the hotel gave me an alternate
that
>A A could have worked, I actually drove up to Monterey 6 weeks ago
and had
>A A a look. So I was ready to go and things were stalled as Vegas was
being
>A A planned.
>
>A A So saying that no one stepped forward or volunteered to do
Monterey
>A A again if completely false.
>
>A A I am wondering why is it that every successful Fun Rally the
people
>A A that are asked to volunteer their time to do an epic event never
want
>A A to do it again, hence ask Gil Mares about Phoenix, ask Marshall
Smith
>A A about San Diego. Gil actually quit POCA and SDP will never do
another
>A A event.
>
>A A After the board vote to go back to Las Vegas on Dec. 8th, I
decided to
>A A step down as Public Relations Director from the POCA board and
for the
>A A sake of the DeTomaso community I was going to do Monterey again
in
>A A 2018. I stepped down because it would have been seen as a
conflict
>A A of interestA It was not a spiteful act, it is for the further
>A A enrichment of the marque and the people that stand behind it, it
is why
>A A I chose Forza DeTomaso - The Force behind the Marque.
>
>A A I just want to be clear about this because the above statement is
>A A really insulting.
>
>A A Kind regards,
>
>A A Ed
>
>A A On Dec 15, 2017, at 09:23, Ed Mendez <[2][4]edducati at mac.com>
wrote:
>
>A A A Thank you Julian, for those that don't know.
>A A A I am having an event back in Monterey for 2018, with fun and
runs,
>A A A drive your Pantera at Laguna Seca, Concourse Car Show on the
green,
>A A A Bruce Canepa shop tour, and 17 mile drive! if you missed the
event
>A A this
>A A A years event you won't want to miss next years. May 30th - June
3rd,
>A A A 2018. Special rates at the Hyatt of only $189 for participants
look
>A A for
>A A A upcoming details at [1][3][5]www.forzadetomaso.com.A
including your
>A A chance to
>A A A win in our raffle to have your car featured in our 2019 Forza
>A A DeTomaso
>A A A Bikini Calendar.
>A A A [[4]cid:3A4AED9E-437C-414E-A311-E0C77755486D]
>A A A On Dec 15, 2017, at 08:42, Julian Kift
>A A <[2][5][6]julian_kift at hotmail.com>
>A A A wrote:
>A A A A I understand there will be a track event the same as last
year
>A A where
>A A A A the SCCA are having Regional event at Laguna Seca and there
will be
>A A A A pace laps available during lunch.
>A A A A Wait sorry, that's the 'other' Forza De Tomaso Rally in
Monterey
>A A that
>A A A A has more than just "Fun" in the title.....
>A A A A Julian
>A A A A A ______________________________
___________________________________
>A A _
>A A A A From: DeTomaso <[3][6][7]detomaso-bounces@
server.detomasolist.com> on
>A A A behalf of
>A A A A Dan Courtney <[4][7][8]dan at excaliburre.com>
>A A A A Sent: Thursday, December 14, 2017 10:11 PM
>A A A A To: [5][8][9]detomaso at server.detomasolist.com
>A A A A Subject: [DeTomaso] 2018 POCA Fun Rally
>A A A A Will there be a track event this year?
>A A A A Dan
>A A A _______________________________________________
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