[DeTomaso] P-car shirts

[Scott Mead Photography]

The Monkey's uncle???

Sent from my iPhone

> On Aug 8, 2017, at 12:40 PM, Larry-Ohio Time Corp <Larry at ohiotimecorp.com> wrote:
> 
> Interesting. Now what about the monkey who picked up a camera and took a selfie. Who owns the rights to that photo?
> 
> 
> Larry (its in the courts now) - Cleveland
> 
> -----Original Message-----
> From: DeTomaso [mailto:detomaso-bounces at server.detomasolist.com] On Behalf Of Julian Kift
> Sent: Tuesday, August 08, 2017 3:01 PM
> To: Rob Dumoulin; Ed Mendez
> Cc: P - Mail List
> Subject: Re: [DeTomaso] P-car shirts
> 
> Aside from the fact the slogan is backstreet thuggish, what is the issue anyway?
> 
> 
> Posting photos on Facebook etc. you knowingly accept they are in the public domain and rescind any copyright unless expressly stated.
> 
> 
> "Remember, only original works are eligible for copyright protection. To be original enough for copyright protection, a work needs to be created by the author themselves, and must have some minimal amount of creativity."  That is debatable in this case 😉 ; you lift someone else's photo ignoring their copyright, add a slogan and it's a copyright work of art?
> 
> "Generally, things like names, titles, slogans or short phrases aren't considered to be original enough for copyright protection."
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> 
> Just saying...
> 
> 
> Julian
> 
> ________________________________
> From: DeTomaso <detomaso-bounces at server.detomasolist.com> on behalf of Rob Dumoulin <rob at dumoulins.net>
> Sent: Tuesday, August 8, 2017 11:30 AM
> To: Ed Mendez
> Cc: P - Mail List
> Subject: Re: [DeTomaso] P-car shirts
> 
> Curiosity is killing this cat.  I wonder who it was and how they got the
> picture.
> 
> Rob DuMoulin
> 904.476.8744
> rob at dumoulins.net
> www.kbsi.co<http://www.kbsi.co>
> http://www.linkedin.com/pub/rob-dumoulin/0/1b6/58
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> 
>> On Tue, Aug 8, 2017 at 12:25 PM, Ed Mendez <edducati at mac.com> wrote:
>> 
>> I contacted the website red bubble and they have removed the shirt and
>> that seller from their site.
>> 
>> Ed
>> 
>> Sent from my iPhone 6 Plus
>> 
>>> On Aug 7, 2017, at 07:36, cengles at cox.net wrote:
>>> 
>>> Dear Rob,
>>> 
>>> 
>>>            Obviously, T shirt art is a matter of taste.   Some of their
>> designs are tasteful,  some are undistinguished and the one with the
>> caption in large letters: "THE THUG OF SUPERCARS" perhaps does not send the
>> best message.  Obviously, what that caption should be can generate further
>> discussion and, hopefully, some possibilities that might be ever so
>> slightly more refined.   I might suggest if a strikingly good caption is
>> suggested, then......perhaps the POCA store could then instigate a small
>> production run.
>>> 
>>> 
>>>                    Warmest regards,  Chuck Engles
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