[DeTomaso] Best racing brake pads for the stock calipers and vented rotors

jderyke at aol.com jderyke at aol.com
Sat Apr 29 16:08:41 EDT 2017


Porterfield recommends their R4-s pad compound for street & track in a Pantera. Pads are slip-ins
for Wilwood & stock Girling fronts although not for the stock rear toy-calipers, as Asa Jay mentioned. Works fine on our '72 with Wilwoods.

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Sent: Sat, Apr 29, 2017 12:39 pm
Subject: Re: [DeTomaso] Best racing brake pads for the stock calipers and vented rotors


Jeff and Asa Jay, thanks for the tips!
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On Apr 29, 2017 6:24 AM, "Jeff Detrich" <[1]jjdetrich at gmail.com> wrote:

A A Last time I ordered, Porterfield had pads with the tab removed
for the
A A Pantera market. You just have to remind them.
A A Jeff
A A 6559
A A On Fri, Apr 28, 2017 at 7:51 PM, Asa Jay Laughton
A A <[1][2]asajay at asajay.com> wrote:
A A A AA A I ran the Porterfields, but if you run the stock rear
calipers,
A A A you
A A A AA A MUST file down the pin on the pad.AA Porterfield
welds a small
A A A pin on
A A A AA A the back of the pad that prevents the caliper locking
mechanism
A A A from
A A A AA A turning to the unlock position.AA On a stock DeTomaso
pad,
A A A there is a
A A A AA A "bump" welded to the back which is already low enough
not to
A A A damage the
A A A AA A caliper piston.AA The pin welded on by Porterfield is
too long
A A A and will
A A A AA A punch a hole in the piston if not filed down.
A A A AA A Otherwise, I really liked the Porterfield.AA They
held up fine
A A A for me
A A A AA A during a Race School several years ago, and they moved
me from
A A A the
A A A AA A beginner group to the next group up on day two, really
pushing
A A A me and
A A A AA A the car.AA Lots of really hard braking that day...
and a couple
A A A of
A A A AA A inexperience-induced spins.
A A A AA A I had fun though. :)
A A A AA A Asa
A A A Asa Jay Laughton - W7TSC, MSgt, USAFR, Retired
A A A Spokane County ARES/RACES Net Manager
A A A ******************************
A A A [1][2][3]http://w7tsc.org
A A A [2][3][4]http://www.teampanteraracing.com
A A A AA A On 4/28/2017 5:35 PM, Steve Lisa wrote:
A A A AA A So, I now have the Wilkinson rear vented rotors, and
Mike
A A A Drew's new
A A A AA A front vented rotors for my FIA GR3 race project.AAA I
also
A A A ordered a new
A A A AA A brake booster and master cylinder. A
A A A AA A Now, I need to decide on the best source for racing
pads.AAA I
A A A will be
A A A AA A running the stock front and rear calipers, on the
vented
A A A rotors, with
A A A AA A direct cooling to the front rotors.AAA The car will
be racing
A A A virtually
A A A AA A 100% of the time, for short 40 minute max sessions. I
know
A A A Porterfield
A A A AA A makes race pads for the Pantera, and I have used their
pads a
A A A lot in
A A A AA A the past with no complaints. A
A A A AA A But, I wanted to ask the experts on this forum their
opinion
A A A for the
A A A AA A best race pads - BOTH supplier and compound -- for my
A A A application. A A
A A A AA A A
A A A AA A Regards,A
A A A AA A Steven G. Lisa, Esq.
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   Porterfield recommends their R4-s pad compound for street & track in a
   Pantera. Pads are slip-ins
   for Wilwood & stock Girling fronts although not for the stock rear
   toy-calipers, as Asa Jay mentioned. Works fine on our '72 with
   Wilwoods.
   -----Original Message-----
   From: Steve Lisa <stevelisa at patentit.com>
   To: Jeff Detrich <jjdetrich at gmail.com>
   Cc: List DeTomaso Forum <detomaso at server.detomasolist.com>
   Sent: Sat, Apr 29, 2017 12:39 pm
   Subject: Re: [DeTomaso] Best racing brake pads for the stock calipers
   and vented rotors
   Jeff and Asa Jay, thanks for the tips!
   Regards,
   Steven G. Lisa, Esq.
   Email: [1]SteveLisa at PatentIt.com
   Direct: 312-320-5888
   Scottsdale Office | P: 480.535.6656A |A F: 480.535.6628A |A A: 7689
   E. Paradise Lane, Suite 2, Scottsdale, AZ 85260
   Chicago Office | P: 312.752.4357A |A F: 312.896.5633A |A A: 55 E.
   Monroe Street, Suite 3800, Chicago, IL 60603
   On Apr 29, 2017 6:24 AM, "Jeff Detrich" <[1][2]jjdetrich at gmail.com>
   wrote:
   A A Last time I ordered, Porterfield had pads with the tab removed
   for the
   A A Pantera market. You just have to remind them.
   A A Jeff
   A A 6559
   A A On Fri, Apr 28, 2017 at 7:51 PM, Asa Jay Laughton
   A A <[1][2][3]asajay at asajay.com> wrote:
   A A A AA A I ran the Porterfields, but if you run the stock rear
   calipers,
   A A A you
   A A A AA A MUST file down the pin on the pad.AA Porterfield
   welds a small
   A A A pin on
   A A A AA A the back of the pad that prevents the caliper locking
   mechanism
   A A A from
   A A A AA A turning to the unlock position.AA On a stock DeTomaso
   pad,
   A A A there is a
   A A A AA A "bump" welded to the back which is already low enough
   not to
   A A A damage the
   A A A AA A caliper piston.AA The pin welded on by Porterfield is
   too long
   A A A and will
   A A A AA A punch a hole in the piston if not filed down.
   A A A AA A Otherwise, I really liked the Porterfield.AA They
   held up fine
   A A A for me
   A A A AA A during a Race School several years ago, and they moved
   me from
   A A A the
   A A A AA A beginner group to the next group up on day two, really
   pushing
   A A A me and
   A A A AA A the car.AA Lots of really hard braking that day...
   and a couple
   A A A of
   A A A AA A inexperience-induced spins.
   A A A AA A I had fun though. :)
   A A A AA A Asa
   A A A Asa Jay Laughton - W7TSC, MSgt, USAFR, Retired
   A A A Spokane County ARES/RACES Net Manager
   A A A ******************************
   A A A [1][2][3][4]http://w7tsc.org
   A A A [2][3][4][5]http://www.teampanteraracing.com
   A A A AA A On 4/28/2017 5:35 PM, Steve Lisa wrote:
   A A A AA A So, I now have the Wilkinson rear vented rotors, and
   Mike
   A A A Drew's new
   A A A AA A front vented rotors for my FIA GR3 race project.AAA I
   also
   A A A ordered a new
   A A A AA A brake booster and master cylinder. A
   A A A AA A Now, I need to decide on the best source for racing
   pads.AAA I
   A A A will be
   A A A AA A running the stock front and rear calipers, on the
   vented
   A A A rotors, with
   A A A AA A direct cooling to the front rotors.AAA The car will
   be racing
   A A A virtually
   A A A AA A 100% of the time, for short 40 minute max sessions. I
   know
   A A A Porterfield
   A A A AA A makes race pads for the Pantera, and I have used their
   pads a
   A A A lot in
   A A A AA A the past with no complaints. A
   A A A AA A But, I wanted to ask the experts on this forum their
   opinion
   A A A for the
   A A A AA A best race pads - BOTH supplier and compound -- for my
   A A A application. A A
   A A A AA A A
   A A A AA A Regards,A
   A A A AA A Steven G. Lisa, Esq.
   A A A AA A Email: [3][6]SteveLisa at PatentIt.com
   A A A AA A Direct: [5]312-320-5888
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