[DeTomaso] Best racing brake pads for the stock calipers and vented rotors
Steve Lisa
stevelisa at patentit.com
Sat Apr 29 16:46:00 EDT 2017
This car will only be racing, hard. It is will rarely see a "track" day or
the street. So is that compound right?
Regards,
Steven G. Lisa, Esq.
Email: SteveLisa at PatentIt.com
Direct: 312-320-5888
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On Apr 29, 2017 1:08 PM, <jderyke at aol.com> wrote:
> Porterfield recommends their R4-s pad compound for street & track in a
> Pantera. Pads are slip-ins
> for Wilwood & stock Girling fronts although not for the stock rear
> toy-calipers, as Asa Jay mentioned. Works fine on our '72 with Wilwoods.
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Steve Lisa <stevelisa at patentit.com>
> To: Jeff Detrich <jjdetrich at gmail.com>
> Cc: List DeTomaso Forum <detomaso at server.detomasolist.com>
> Sent: Sat, Apr 29, 2017 12:39 pm
> Subject: Re: [DeTomaso] Best racing brake pads for the stock calipers and
> vented rotors
>
> Jeff and Asa Jay, thanks for the tips!
> Regards,
> Steven G. Lisa, Esq.
> Email: SteveLisa at PatentIt.com
> Direct: 312-320-5888 <(312)%20320-5888>
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> On Apr 29, 2017 6:24 AM, "Jeff Detrich" <[1]jjdetrich at gmail.com> wrote:
>
> A A Last time I ordered, Porterfield had pads with the tab removed
> for the
> A A Pantera market. You just have to remind them.
> A A Jeff
> A A 6559
> A A On Fri, Apr 28, 2017 at 7:51 PM, Asa Jay Laughton
> A A <[1][2]asajay at asajay.com> wrote:
> A A A AA A I ran the Porterfields, but if you run the stock rear
> calipers,
> A A A you
> A A A AA A MUST file down the pin on the pad.AA Porterfield
> welds a small
> A A A pin on
> A A A AA A the back of the pad that prevents the caliper locking
> mechanism
> A A A from
> A A A AA A turning to the unlock position.AA On a stock DeTomaso
> pad,
> A A A there is a
> A A A AA A "bump" welded to the back which is already low enough
> not to
> A A A damage the
> A A A AA A caliper piston.AA The pin welded on by Porterfield is
> too long
> A A A and will
> A A A AA A punch a hole in the piston if not filed down.
> A A A AA A Otherwise, I really liked the Porterfield.AA They
> held up fine
> A A A for me
> A A A AA A during a Race School several years ago, and they moved
> me from
> A A A the
> A A A AA A beginner group to the next group up on day two, really
> pushing
> A A A me and
> A A A AA A the car.AA Lots of really hard braking that day...
> and a couple
> A A A of
> A A A AA A inexperience-induced spins.
> A A A AA A I had fun though. :)
> A A A AA A Asa
> A A A Asa Jay Laughton - W7TSC, MSgt, USAFR, Retired
> A A A Spokane County ARES/RACES Net Manager
> A A A ******************************
> A A A [1][2][3]http://w7tsc.org
> A A A [2][3][4]http://www.teampanteraracing.com
> A A A AA A On 4/28/2017 5:35 PM, Steve Lisa wrote:
> A A A AA A So, I now have the Wilkinson rear vented rotors, and
> Mike
> A A A Drew's new
> A A A AA A front vented rotors for my FIA GR3 race project.AAA I
> also
> A A A ordered a new
> A A A AA A brake booster and master cylinder. A
> A A A AA A Now, I need to decide on the best source for racing
> pads.AAA I
> A A A will be
> A A A AA A running the stock front and rear calipers, on the
> vented
> A A A rotors, with
> A A A AA A direct cooling to the front rotors.AAA The car will
> be racing
> A A A virtually
> A A A AA A 100% of the time, for short 40 minute max sessions. I
> know
> A A A Porterfield
> A A A AA A makes race pads for the Pantera, and I have used their
> pads a
> A A A lot in
> A A A AA A the past with no complaints. A
> A A A AA A But, I wanted to ask the experts on this forum their
> opinion
> A A A for the
> A A A AA A best race pads - BOTH supplier and compound -- for my
> A A A application. A A
> A A A AA A A
> A A A AA A Regards,A
> A A A AA A Steven G. Lisa, Esq.
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This car will only be racing, hard.A It is will rarely see a "track"
day or the street.A So is that compound right?
Regards,
Steven G. Lisa, Esq.
Email: SteveLisa at PatentIt.com
Direct: 312-320-5888
Scottsdale Office | P: 480.535.6656A |A F: 480.535.6628A |A A: 7689
E. Paradise Lane, Suite 2, Scottsdale, AZ 85260
Chicago Office | P: 312.752.4357A |A F: 312.896.5633A |A A: 55 E.
Monroe Street, Suite 3800, Chicago, IL 60603
On Apr 29, 2017 1:08 PM, <[1]jderyke at aol.com> wrote:
Porterfield recommends their R4-s pad compound for street & track in a
Pantera. Pads are slip-ins
for Wilwood & stock Girling fronts although not for the stock rear
toy-calipers, as Asa Jay mentioned. Works fine on our '72 with
Wilwoods.
-----Original Message-----
From: Steve Lisa <[2]stevelisa at patentit.com>
To: Jeff Detrich <[3]jjdetrich at gmail.com>
Cc: List DeTomaso Forum <[4]detomaso at server.detomasolist.com>
Sent: Sat, Apr 29, 2017 12:39 pm
Subject: Re: [DeTomaso] Best racing brake pads for the stock calipers
and vented rotors
Jeff and Asa Jay, thanks for the tips!
Regards,
Steven G. Lisa, Esq.
Email: [5]SteveLisa at PatentIt.com
Direct: [6]312-320-5888
Scottsdale Office | P: 480.535.6656A |A F: 480.535.6628A |A A: 7689
E. Paradise Lane, Suite 2, Scottsdale, AZ 85260
Chicago Office | P: 312.752.4357A |A F: 312.896.5633A |A A: 55 E.
Monroe Street, Suite 3800, Chicago, IL 60603
On Apr 29, 2017 6:24 AM, "Jeff Detrich" <[1][7]jjdetrich at gmail.com>
wrote:
A A Last time I ordered, Porterfield had pads with the tab removed
for the
A A Pantera market. You just have to remind them.
A A Jeff
A A 6559
A A On Fri, Apr 28, 2017 at 7:51 PM, Asa Jay Laughton
A A <[1][2][8]asajay at asajay.com> wrote:
A A A AA A I ran the Porterfields, but if you run the stock rear
calipers,
A A A you
A A A AA A MUST file down the pin on the pad.AA Porterfield
welds a small
A A A pin on
A A A AA A the back of the pad that prevents the caliper locking
mechanism
A A A from
A A A AA A turning to the unlock position.AA On a stock DeTomaso
pad,
A A A there is a
A A A AA A "bump" welded to the back which is already low enough
not to
A A A damage the
A A A AA A caliper piston.AA The pin welded on by Porterfield is
too long
A A A and will
A A A AA A punch a hole in the piston if not filed down.
A A A AA A Otherwise, I really liked the Porterfield.AA They
held up fine
A A A for me
A A A AA A during a Race School several years ago, and they moved
me from
A A A the
A A A AA A beginner group to the next group up on day two, really
pushing
A A A me and
A A A AA A the car.AA Lots of really hard braking that day...
and a couple
A A A of
A A A AA A inexperience-induced spins.
A A A AA A I had fun though. :)
A A A AA A Asa
A A A Asa Jay Laughton - W7TSC, MSgt, USAFR, Retired
A A A Spokane County ARES/RACES Net Manager
A A A ******************************
A A A [1][2][3][9]http://w7tsc.org
A A A [2][3][4][10]http://www.teampanteraracing.com
A A A AA A On 4/28/2017 5:35 PM, Steve Lisa wrote:
A A A AA A So, I now have the Wilkinson rear vented rotors, and
Mike
A A A Drew's new
A A A AA A front vented rotors for my FIA GR3 race project.AAA I
also
A A A ordered a new
A A A AA A brake booster and master cylinder. A
A A A AA A Now, I need to decide on the best source for racing
pads.AAA I
A A A will be
A A A AA A running the stock front and rear calipers, on the
vented
A A A rotors, with
A A A AA A direct cooling to the front rotors.AAA The car will
be racing
A A A virtually
A A A AA A 100% of the time, for short 40 minute max sessions. I
know
A A A Porterfield
A A A AA A makes race pads for the Pantera, and I have used their
pads a
A A A lot in
A A A AA A the past with no complaints. A
A A A AA A But, I wanted to ask the experts on this forum their
opinion
A A A for the
A A A AA A best race pads - BOTH supplier and compound -- for my
A A A application. A A
A A A AA A A
A A A AA A Regards,A
A A A AA A Steven G. Lisa, Esq.
A A A AA A Email: [3][11]SteveLisa at PatentIt.com
A A A AA A Direct: [5]312-320-5888
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