[DeTomaso] Some FIA Group 3 brake questions - circa 1973
Himes, Terry (397C)
terry.himes at jpl.nasa.gov
Mon Apr 17 18:40:14 EDT 2017
Understood. I use dropbox all the time. But you will pay for storage over XXX GB (I can’t remember exact #).
But dropbox will tell you when you are reaching the limit. ;-)
"A Purple Heart proves you were smart enough to hatch a plan,
stupid enough to try it and lucky enough to survive!"
Terry W. Himes
JPL Jet Propulsion Laboratory
Dawn Spacecraft Team
Rosetta Sequence Team Lead
Phone: (818) 393-6261
Cell: (818) 653-8213
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From: Steve Lisa <stevelisa at patentit.com>
Date: Monday, April 17, 2017 at 3:37 PM
To: Terry Himes <terry.himes at jpl.nasa.gov>
Cc: Larry - Ohio Time <Larry at ohiotimecorp.com>, List DeTomaso Forum <detomaso at server.detomasolist.com>
Subject: Re: [DeTomaso] Some FIA Group 3 brake questions - circa 1973
I was just going to create a public link for the file on dropbox, and then share it on this forum only, with a simple request that we keep it on the forum. Those with the link can view it directly on drop box. My concern is that I am likely to make a bunch of mistakes building this car. I very much encourage and welcome constructive comments and suggestions from the forum - but not that interested in criticism from the "outside world."
Regards,
Steven G. Lisa, Esq.
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On Mon, Apr 17, 2017 at 3:33 PM, Himes, Terry (397C) <terry.himes at jpl.nasa.gov<mailto:terry.himes at jpl.nasa.gov>> wrote:
Steve, I will chime in here. The list will not work well for large images. I use smugmug. It is a professional photo site.
Only about $40./year. But they let you upload full resolution images and will not corrupt them. Most (all) the free sites
will dumb down all images. So it depends on what you would like to make available.
Terry
"A Purple Heart proves you were smart enough to hatch a plan,
stupid enough to try it and lucky enough to survive!"
Terry W. Himes
JPL Jet Propulsion Laboratory
Dawn Spacecraft Team
Rosetta Sequence Team Lead
Phone: (818) 393-6261<tel:%28818%29%20393-6261>
Cell: (818) 653-8213<tel:%28818%29%20653-8213>
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On 4/17/17, 3:20 PM, "DeTomaso on behalf of Steve Lisa" <detomaso-bounces at server.detomasolist.com<mailto:detomaso-bounces at server.detomasolist.com> on behalf of stevelisa at patentit.com<mailto:stevelisa at patentit.com>> wrote:
I am working on getting some photo's - believe it or not we were busy
enough that we didn't take any of our own!!! But, among the constant parade
of people gawking, there were a few photographers that stopped by and said
they snapped photo's during practice and qualifying. I am waiting on
getting some emails.
Again, I am new to this process, but I have a dropbox folder that I am
keeping of the build, beginning after Asa Jay dropped 5533 off in Portland
last year. I am not anxious to make it uber-public, but I would happily
share it with the forum. Is that allowed?
Regards,
Steven G. Lisa, Esq.
Email: SteveLisa at PatentIt.com
Direct: 312-320-5888<tel:312-320-5888>
<http://www.patentit.com>
*Please note our new Scottsdale address. Our phone and fax numbers remain
the same.*
*Scottsdale Office* | *P*: 480.535.6656<tel:480.535.6656> | *F:* 480.535.6628<tel:480.535.6628> | *A:* 7689
East Paradise Lane, Suite 2, Scottsdale, AZ 85260
*Chicago Office *|* P:* 312.752.4357<tel:312.752.4357> | *F:* 312.896.5633<tel:312.896.5633> | *A:* 55 E.
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On Mon, Apr 17, 2017 at 3:08 PM, Larry - Ohio Time <Larry at ohiotimecorp.com<mailto:Larry at ohiotimecorp.com>>
wrote:
> Steve the only things you did wrong was not to post sooner and not to post
> photos of your race. :-)
>
> Welcome
>
>
> Larry - Cleveland
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: DeTomaso [mailto:detomaso-bounces at server.detomasolist.com<mailto:detomaso-bounces at server.detomasolist.com>] On
> Behalf Of Steve Lisa
> Sent: Monday, April 17, 2017 5:59 PM
> To: detomaso at server.detomasolist.com<mailto:detomaso at server.detomasolist.com>
> Subject: [DeTomaso] Some FIA Group 3 brake questions - circa 1973
>
> This is my first post, so I hope I get it right. Let me know if I broke
> etiquette.
>
> So, we confirmed this weekend running in the Oregon SCCA Vintage group at
> PIR, that the original Pantera brakes are indeed lacking. Aside from brake
> issues, Asa Jay's old car ran well.
>
> The issue is that I am required to run the stock front and rear calipers if
> I want the car to be "dated" under the FIA Group 3 rules as of "1973." As
> best I can tell (and maybe I am wrong), the "big" calipers were not
> approved in Group 3 until 1974. However, it also appears, as best I can
> tell, that the 1973 FIA Group 3 rules allowed vented front and rear rotors
> in place of the original non-vented rotors. Unfortunately, slotted rotors
> are not allowed.
>
> I happily just bought two sets of Mike Drew's recently sourced
> vented/slotted rotors, which I will run on the front for now. Except for
> snooty events, there will be no issues doing so. But, I have a few
> questions for the experts here about some longer term concerns:
>
> 1. I eventually need to find vented but non-slotted front and rear
> rotors for the Pantera, as close as possible to what was run in the FIA
> Group 3 in 1973. Any ideas on where to find vented front and rear
> rotors
> that are equivalent to the 1973 FIA Group s rotors?
> 2. I would like something improved in place of the stock rear rotors
> while I am sourcing the proper vented rotors circa 1973. Any ideas?
> 3. What are the best race front and rear pads to run in the original
> calipers, and where do we get them? I am guessing Porterfield?
>
> Also, I want to again thank all those that tried to help us out last
> weekend when the Booster failed.
>
> Regards,
>
> S
> teve Lisa
>
> SN 5533
>
> Steve Lisa
> SN 5533
>
>
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Understood. I use dropbox all the time. But you will pay for storage
over XXX GB (I can't remember exact #).
But dropbox will tell you when you are reaching the limit. ;-)
"A Purple Heart proves you were smart enough to hatch a plan,
stupid enough to try it and lucky enough to survive!"
Terry W. Himes
JPL Jet Propulsion Laboratory
Dawn Spacecraft Team
Rosetta Sequence Team Lead
Phone: (818) 393-6261
Cell: (818) 653-8213
[1]thimes at jpl.nasa.gov
From: Steve Lisa <stevelisa at patentit.com>
Date: Monday, April 17, 2017 at 3:37 PM
To: Terry Himes <terry.himes at jpl.nasa.gov>
Cc: Larry - Ohio Time <Larry at ohiotimecorp.com>, List DeTomaso Forum
<detomaso at server.detomasolist.com>
Subject: Re: [DeTomaso] Some FIA Group 3 brake questions - circa 1973
I was just going to create a public link for the file on dropbox, and
then share it on this forum only, with a simple request that we keep it
on the forum. Those with the link can view it directly on drop box.
My concern is that I am likely to make a bunch of mistakes building
this car. I very much encourage and welcome constructive comments and
suggestions from the forum - but not that interested in criticism from
the "outside world."
Regards,
Steven G. Lisa, Esq.
Email: SteveLisa at PatentIt.com
Direct: 312-320-5888
[2][SGL-Email-Logo.jpg]
Please note our new Scottsdale address. Our phone and fax numbers
remain the same.
Scottsdale Office | P: 480.535.6656 | F: 480.535.6628 | A: 7689
East Paradise Lane, Suite 2, Scottsdale, AZ 85260
Chicago Office | P: 312.752.4357 | F: 312.896.5633 | A: 55 E.
Monroe Street, Suite 3800, Chicago, IL 60603
[3]www.PatentIt.com
This email is confidential and privileged, and intended only for the
recipient above. If you received this email in error, please destroy
all copies of it and indicate such by return email to me. Thank you.
On Mon, Apr 17, 2017 at 3:33 PM, Himes, Terry (397C)
<[4]terry.himes at jpl.nasa.gov> wrote:
Steve, I will chime in here. The list will not work well for large
images. I use smugmug. It is a professional photo site.
Only about $40./year. But they let you upload full resolution
images and will not corrupt them. Most (all) the free sites
will dumb down all images. So it depends on what you would like to
make available.
Terry
"A Purple Heart proves you were smart enough to hatch a plan,
stupid enough to try it and lucky enough to survive!"
Terry W. Himes
JPL Jet Propulsion Laboratory
Dawn Spacecraft Team
Rosetta Sequence Team Lead
Phone: [5](818) 393-6261
Cell: [6](818) 653-8213
[7]thimes at jpl.nasa.gov
On 4/17/17, 3:20 PM, "DeTomaso on behalf of Steve Lisa"
<[8]detomaso-bounces at server.detomasolist.com on behalf of
[9]stevelisa at patentit.com> wrote:
I am working on getting some photo's - believe it or not we were
busy
enough that we didn't take any of our own!!! But, among the
constant parade
of people gawking, there were a few photographers that stopped
by and said
they snapped photo's during practice and qualifying. I am
waiting on
getting some emails.
Again, I am new to this process, but I have a dropbox folder
that I am
keeping of the build, beginning after Asa Jay dropped 5533 off
in Portland
last year. I am not anxious to make it uber-public, but I would
happily
share it with the forum. Is that allowed?
Regards,
Steven G. Lisa, Esq.
Email: SteveLisa at PatentIt.com
Direct: [10]312-320-5888
<[11]http://www.patentit.com>
*Please note our new Scottsdale address. Our phone and fax
numbers remain
the same.*
*Scottsdale Office* | *P*: [12]480.535.6656 | *F:*
[13]480.535.6628 | *A:* 7689
East Paradise Lane, Suite 2, Scottsdale, AZ 85260
*Chicago Office *|* P:* [14]312.752.4357 | *F:*
[15]312.896.5633 | *A:* 55 E.
Monroe Street, Suite 3800, Chicago, IL 60603
[16]www.PatentIt.com
This email is confidential and privileged, and intended only for
the
recipient above. If you received this email in error, please
destroy all
copies of it and indicate such by return email to me. Thank you.
On Mon, Apr 17, 2017 at 3:08 PM, Larry - Ohio Time
<[17]Larry at ohiotimecorp.com>
wrote:
> Steve the only things you did wrong was not to post sooner and
not to post
> photos of your race. :-)
>
> Welcome
>
>
> Larry - Cleveland
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: DeTomaso
[mailto:[18]detomaso-bounces at server.detomasolist.com] On
> Behalf Of Steve Lisa
> Sent: Monday, April 17, 2017 5:59 PM
> To: [19]detomaso at server.detomasolist.com
> Subject: [DeTomaso] Some FIA Group 3 brake questions - circa 1973
>
> This is my first post, so I hope I get it right. Let me know if
I broke
> etiquette.
>
> So, we confirmed this weekend running in the Oregon SCCA Vintage
group at
> PIR, that the original Pantera brakes are indeed lacking. Aside
from brake
> issues, Asa Jay's old car ran well.
>
> The issue is that I am required to run the stock front and rear
calipers if
> I want the car to be "dated" under the FIA Group 3 rules as of
"1973." As
> best I can tell (and maybe I am wrong), the "big" calipers were
not
> approved in Group 3 until 1974. However, it also appears, as
best I can
> tell, that the 1973 FIA Group 3 rules allowed vented front and
rear rotors
> in place of the original non-vented rotors. Unfortunately,
slotted rotors
> are not allowed.
>
> I happily just bought two sets of Mike Drew's recently sourced
> vented/slotted rotors, which I will run on the front for now.
Except for
> snooty events, there will be no issues doing so. But, I have a
few
> questions for the experts here about some longer term concerns:
>
> 1. I eventually need to find vented but non-slotted front and
rear
> rotors for the Pantera, as close as possible to what was run
in the FIA
> Group 3 in 1973. Any ideas on where to find vented front and
rear
> rotors
> that are equivalent to the 1973 FIA Group s rotors?
> 2. I would like something improved in place of the stock rear
rotors
> while I am sourcing the proper vented rotors circa 1973. Any
ideas?
> 3. What are the best race front and rear pads to run in the
original
> calipers, and where do we get them? I am guessing
Porterfield?
>
> Also, I want to again thank all those that tried to help us out
last
> weekend when the Booster failed.
>
> Regards,
>
> S
> teve Lisa
>
> SN 5533
>
> Steve Lisa
> SN 5533
>
>
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5. tel:%28818%29%20393-6261
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9. mailto:stevelisa at patentit.com
10. tel:312-320-5888
11. http://www.patentit.com/
12. tel:480.535.6656
13. tel:480.535.6628
14. tel:312.752.4357
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16. http://www.PatentIt.com/
17. mailto:Larry at ohiotimecorp.com
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