[DeTomaso] Pantera on Fast & Loud
Jerry Knotts
knottsj at galstar.com
Thu Sep 22 10:13:01 EDT 2016
During the show they said $10k for the truck plus the cleanup of the engine.
It looks like they have built an amateurish, over weight, under
engineered version of the Noble M400. The Nobles are about 50k used
with less than 30k miles and they will start theirs north of 100k.
What kind of body man would finish weld a large expanse of thin metal
and only find the distortion when they tried to install it. Competent
sheet metal welding is all about not distorting the product because of
the heat.
Reality TV is expensive and from another planet.
Just my musings,
jerry knotts
On 9/22/2016 8:44 AM, Ken Green via DeTomaso wrote:
> Only 27 pounds lighter than a Coyote?
> I was trying to remember what they paid? there is a used V6 on ebay
> with 22K miles for $3,500 and a new one from Summit for $9,500.
> Ken
> __________________________________________________________________
>
> From: Julian Kift <julian_kift at hotmail.com>
> To: Jeff Detrich <jjdetrich at gmail.com>; "Joseph F. Byrd, Jr."
> <byrdjf at embarqmail.com>
> Cc: "detomaso at server.detomasolist.com"
> <detomaso at server.detomasolist.com>
> Sent: Wednesday, September 21, 2016 5:27 PM
> Subject: Re: [DeTomaso] Pantera on Fast & Loud
> So 417 lbs without accessory drive and turbos, manifolds,
> intercooler.... yeah they saved a lot of weight with that switch!
> Julian
> __________________________________________________________________
> From: DeTomaso <[1]detomaso-bounces at server.detomasolist.com> on
> behalf of
> Jeff Detrich <[2]jjdetrich at gmail.com>
> Sent: Wednesday, September 21, 2016 4:20 PM
> To: Joseph F. Byrd, Jr.
> Cc: [3]detomaso at server.detomasolist.com
> Subject: Re: [DeTomaso] Pantera on Fast & Loud
> Engine weight 417 lbs.
> Jeff
> 6559
> Product Description
> Ford Performance 365 Horsepower 3.5L EcoBoost Crate Engine Kit.
> Ford Performance has released their 3.5L EcoBoost crate engine for
> those
> that are building a vehicle from scratch or need a replacement engine
> for
> their F-150. This amazing six cylinder engine boasts a mind blowing
> 365
> HP
> and 420 TQ. Direct-injection and turbocharging both help the
> relatively
> small engine to pump out the power. Ford's Ti-VCT (Variable Cam
> Timing)
> technology optimizes fuel economy, performance and emissions. This
> EcoBoost
> engine is designed for maximum operating efficiency.
> *Engine Specs and Features:*
> - 365 Horsepower @ 5,000 RPM
> - 420 lb. ft. of torque @ 2,500 RPM
> - 10.0:1 compression ratio
> - High pressure direct fuel injection
> - Regular unleaded fuel recommended
> - All aluminum construction
> - Dual overhead camshafts with variable camshaft timing
> - Lightweight die-cast aluminum block with six-bolt press-fit main
> bearing
> caps with piston-cooling jets
> - Fully counterweighted forged steel crankshaft
> - High-strength forged powder metal connecting rods with floating
> pins
> - Lightweight aluminum high-strength pistons with low-friction skirt
> coating
> - Tuned composite upper and lower intake manifold
> - Dual water cooled Honeywell/Garrett GT15 turbochargers
> - 6 quart die-cast aluminum deep sump oil pan
> - Engine weight is 417 lbs. (without accessory drive)
> On Wed, Sep 21, 2016 at 6:00 PM, Jeff Detrich
> <[4]jjdetrich at gmail.com>
> wrote:
> > I think a bare body is about 550 pounds. Not very heavy.
> >
> > Jeff
> > 6559
> >
> >
> > On Tue, Sep 20, 2016 at 9:54 PM, Joseph F. Byrd, Jr. <
> > [5]byrdjf at embarqmail.com> wrote:
> >
> >> six guys can carry the body.
> >
> >
> >
> >
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During the show they said $10k for the truck plus the cleanup of the
engine.
It looks like they have built an amateurish, over weight, under
engineered version of the Noble M400. The Nobles are about 50k used
with less than 30k miles and they will start theirs north of 100k.
What kind of body man would finish weld a large expanse of thin metal
and only find the distortion when they tried to install it. Competent
sheet metal welding is all about not distorting the product because of
the heat.
Reality TV is expensive and from another planet.
Just my musings,
jerry knotts
On 9/22/2016 8:44 AM, Ken Green via DeTomaso wrote:
Only 27 pounds lighter than a Coyote?
I was trying to remember what they paid? there is a used V6 on ebay
with 22K miles for $3,500 and a new one from Summit for $9,500.
Ken
__________________________________________________________________
From: Julian Kift [1]<julian_kift at hotmail.com>
To: Jeff Detrich [2]<jjdetrich at gmail.com>; "Joseph F. Byrd, Jr."
[3]<byrdjf at embarqmail.com>
Cc: [4]"detomaso at server.detomasolist.com"
[5]<detomaso at server.detomasolist.com>
Sent: Wednesday, September 21, 2016 5:27 PM
Subject: Re: [DeTomaso] Pantera on Fast & Loud
So 417 lbs without accessory drive and turbos, manifolds,
intercooler.... yeah they saved a lot of weight with that switch!
Julian
__________________________________________________________________
From: DeTomaso [6]<[1]detomaso-bounces at server.detomasolist.com> on
behalf of
Jeff Detrich [7]<[2]jjdetrich at gmail.com>
Sent: Wednesday, September 21, 2016 4:20 PM
To: Joseph F. Byrd, Jr.
Cc: [[8]3]detomaso at server.detomasolist.com
Subject: Re: [DeTomaso] Pantera on Fast & Loud
Engine weight 417 lbs.
Jeff
6559
Product Description
Ford Performance 365 Horsepower 3.5L EcoBoost Crate Engine Kit.
Ford Performance has released their 3.5L EcoBoost crate engine for
those
that are building a vehicle from scratch or need a replacement engine
for
their F-150. This amazing six cylinder engine boasts a mind blowing
365
HP
and 420 TQ. Direct-injection and turbocharging both help the
relatively
small engine to pump out the power. Ford's Ti-VCT (Variable Cam
Timing)
technology optimizes fuel economy, performance and emissions. This
EcoBoost
engine is designed for maximum operating efficiency.
*Engine Specs and Features:*
- 365 Horsepower @ 5,000 RPM
- 420 lb. ft. of torque @ 2,500 RPM
- 10.0:1 compression ratio
- High pressure direct fuel injection
- Regular unleaded fuel recommended
- All aluminum construction
- Dual overhead camshafts with variable camshaft timing
- Lightweight die-cast aluminum block with six-bolt press-fit main
bearing
caps with piston-cooling jets
- Fully counterweighted forged steel crankshaft
- High-strength forged powder metal connecting rods with floating
pins
- Lightweight aluminum high-strength pistons with low-friction skirt
coating
- Tuned composite upper and lower intake manifold
- Dual water cooled Honeywell/Garrett GT15 turbochargers
- 6 quart die-cast aluminum deep sump oil pan
- Engine weight is 417 lbs. (without accessory drive)
On Wed, Sep 21, 2016 at 6:00 PM, Jeff Detrich
[9]<[4]jjdetrich at gmail.com>
wrote:
> I think a bare body is about 550 pounds. Not very heavy.
>
> Jeff
> 6559
>
>
> On Tue, Sep 20, 2016 at 9:54 PM, Joseph F. Byrd, Jr. <
> [[10]5]byrdjf at embarqmail.com> wrote:
>
>> six guys can carry the body.
>
>
>
>
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