[DeTomaso] Oil Suggestions
Charles McCall
charlesmccall at gmail.com
Sat Sep 17 16:07:45 EDT 2016
Julian - do you have a good source for zddp levels in the different brands?
I bought zddp additive a few years ago but have read that it does more harm
than good when all is said and done. My personal philosophy is that any
major brand of oil will protect your oil sufficiently, but I am concerned
about zddp..
On Sat, Sep 17, 2016 at 10:02 PM, Julian Kift <julian_kift at hotmail.com>
wrote:
> The Mobil 1 Racing has the highest ZDDP at 1750 as it does not have to
> comply with the mandated specs for street use.
>
> The other weights of Mobil 1 have varying amounts of ZDDP, it looks
> like the 0-40W FS has 1,000 ppm which I think is the upper limit
> allowable for the SF rating compliance. Here's the 2016 specs of the
> various Mobil 1 offerings;
>
> [1]https://mobiloil.com/~/media/amer/us/pvl/files/pdfs/mobil-1-oil-prod
> uct-specs-guide-2016.pdf
>
> With your new rebuild you'll ideally want to use a good break in oil
> initially to get the rings seated etc.
> Julian
> __________________________________________________________________
>
> From: DeTomaso <detomaso-bounces at server.detomasolist.com> on behalf of
> Michael Barnes <michaelbarnessrt10 at hotmail.co.uk>
> Sent: Saturday, September 17, 2016 12:37 PM
> To: Dave Londry
> Cc: detomaso at server.detomasolist.com
> Subject: Re: [DeTomaso] Oil Suggestions
>
> So , is synthetic compatible with our Cleveland engines, say 0-40 ? My
> engine is currently being upgraded and I am hoping to use Mobil One
> Sent from Michael's iPhone
> > On 17 Sep 2016, at 19:12, Dave Londry <davel at emspace.com> wrote:
> >
> > Ever since the specs on Mobil 1 went to hell I've been using Rotella
> T6.
> > It's got a great set of specs and they've been keeping them stable.
> >
> > And just to keep the discussion lively -
> >
> > ***A synthetic is superior in every aspect of lubrication.***
> > Dave
> >
> >
> >> On 2016-09-17 10:47 AM, Julian Kift wrote:
> >> Traditionally diesel oils have high levels of detergents to deal
> with
> >> the high sulfur, acidic conditions and higher heat etc. however
> with
> >> the advent of low sulfur diesels they have come closer to
> gasoline
> >> formulations. In fact there are a number of "Full fleet' oils
> designed
> >> for use in both gasoline and diesel engines now. What diesel oils
> do
> >> have is a high level of ZDDP required for older flat tappet
> >> cams (Rotella T is 1200 ppm ZDDP) and Rotella T is actually
> recommended
> >> by the Porsche Club of America.
> >>
> >> I do think there's a bit of a contradiction in terms between
> "Rotella
> >> Type T 15W40" "I like to use the best oil" and "No synthetics";
> no
> >> doubt synthetics are more robust than dinosaur oil and the
> Rotella T
> >> oils are now split into varying T grades T1 straight grade, T4
> triple
> >> protection , T5 synthetic and T6 a synthetic extreme temperature.
> All
> >> have 1200 ppm of ZDDP as far as I can ascertain so the T6 would
> be the
> >> best, although I'm sure the lesser will do the job.
> >>
> >> Yes it's confusing, but not rocket science....
> >>
> >> Personally I use Amsoil Z-Rod in my classic cars and have one of
> their
> >> preferred customer accounts for discount as I also buy pure
> racing oils
> >> and marine products.
> >>
> >> Julian
> >>
> __________________________________________________________________
> >>
> >> From: DeTomaso <detomaso-bounces at server.detomasolist.com> on
> behalf of
> >> Himes, Terry (397C) <terry.himes at jpl.nasa.gov>
> >> Sent: Saturday, September 17, 2016 9:50 AM
> >> To: detomaso at server.detomasolist.com
> >> Subject: [DeTomaso] Oil Suggestions
> >>
> >> Good Morning Everyone,
> >> I don't want to startup the oil discussion again. But does
> anyone have
> >> thoughts on
> >> Rotella Type T 15w40. Which is a heavy duty diesel oil. It was
> >> suggested by a local
> >> Mustang shop. I like to use the best oil. No synthetics.
> >> My rebuilt 351c (nothing fancy done, just the normal upgrades)
> has
> >> about 3,500 miles
> >> on it and running great.
> >> Thanks so much.
> >> Terry
> >> "A Purple Heart proves you were smart enough to hatch a plan,
> >> stupid enough to try it and lucky enough to survive!"
> >> Terry W. Himes
> >> JPL Jet Propulsion Laboratory
> >> Dawn Spacecraft Team
> >> Rosetta Sequence Team Lead
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> >> Cell: (818) 653-8213
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> >> thimes at jpl.nasa.gov<[1]mailto:thimes at jpl.nasa.gov>
> >> From: DeTomaso
> >>
> <detomaso-bounces at server.detomasolist.com<mailto:detomaso-bounces at serve
> >> r.detomasolist.com>> on behalf of Julian Kift
> >> <julian_kift at hotmail.com<mailto:julian_kift at hotmail.com>>
> >> Date: Saturday, September 17, 2016 7:56 AM
> >> To: Owen Cooke <owen at tadhgcooke.com<mailto:owen at tadhgcooke.com>>,
> >>
> "detomaso at server.detomasolist.com<mailto:detomaso at server.detomasolist.c
> >> om>"
> >>
> <detomaso at server.detomasolist.com<mailto:detomaso at server.detomasolist.c
> >> om>>
> >> Subject: Re: [DeTomaso] DeTomaso Digest, Vol 147, Issue 19
> >> It's great to hear that you now have a functioning cooling
> system,
> >> although I have to wonder which of the particular changes
> contributed
> >> most, I suspect the thermostat housing being blocked off was a
> bulk of
> >> the problem.
> >> I had a similar experience when I got my first Pantera, it
> overheated
> >> in traffic, so I jumped on the web found all these articles about
> >> swapping radiators and fans etc. and duly went and purchased a
> setup.
> >> When I got to going through the car checking the thermostat I
> found it
> >> was a Windsor style, I swapped it for the correct Cleveland
> t-stat and
> >> voila heating issues resolved.
> >> It's just a reminder to check the simple stuff prior to laying
> out big
> >> $$$, even now I think there are still a lot of myths' perpetuated
> about
> >> these cars... like someone once said "why let the truth get in
> the way
> >> of a good story"
> >> Julian
> >> ________________________________
> >> From: DeTomaso
> >>
> <detomaso-bounces at server.detomasolist.com<mailto:detomaso-bounces at serve
> >> r.detomasolist.com>> on behalf of Owen Cooke
> >> <owen at tadhgcooke.com<mailto:owen at tadhgcooke.com>>
> >> Sent: Saturday, September 17, 2016 2:19 AM
> >> To:
> >>
> detomaso at server.detomasolist.com<mailto:detomaso at server.detomasolist.co
> >> m>
> >> Subject: Re: [DeTomaso] DeTomaso Digest, Vol 147, Issue 19
> >> guys
> >> i had overheating problems
> >> i put in a new hall brass rad but my car had bleed pipe from the
> rad
> >> back to the swirl tank and no fitting in halls rad for it apart
> from a
> >> top bleed screw
> >> so i made a junction to fit the original bleed screw and the
> bleed pipe
> >> to it
> >> then new mariah (is that the right name) that fir on the stock
> brackets
> >> and wired them directly from the battery to the relays
> >> i found the hole under the thermostat was blocked with solder
> >> i removed that and fitted a new stat
> >> now all is perfect temp wise - warms up steady and holds the 90c
> or
> >> 195f in all conditions
> >> my gauge with sender in block beside the pump/stat ready 150f but
> its
> >> steady and i know what to expect
> >> very happy with result
> >> owen cooke
> >> On 16/09/2016 23:31,
> >>
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> >> Message: 1
> >> Date: Fri, 16 Sep 2016 09:29:46 -0700
> >> From: Jack Donahue
> <demongusta at gmail.com<mailto:demongusta at gmail.com>>
> >> To:
> >>
> "detomaso at server.detomasolist.com<mailto:detomaso at server.detomasolist.c
> >> om>"
> >>
> >>
> <detomaso at server.detomasolist.com<mailto:detomaso at server.detomasolist.c
> >> om>>
> >> Cc:
> >>
> "detomaso at server.detomasolist.com<mailto:detomaso at server.detomasolist.c
> >> om>"
> >>
> >>
> <detomaso at server.detomasolist.com<mailto:detomaso at server.detomasolist.c
> >> om>>
> >> Subject: [DeTomaso] Fans and shroud
> >> Message-ID:
> >>
> <CF682A66-9CF9-422E-AD65-2D23A9ABE4BC at gmail.com<mailto:CF682A66-9CF9-42
> >> 2E-AD65-2D23A9ABE4BC at gmail.com>>
> >> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8
> >> Hey all - A few weeks ago I was talking asking The List about
> >> radiators - all said-and-done, I decided on the Hall radiator,
> since I
> >> wanted brass/copper instead of aluminum. And, yes Mike Drew, I
> have to
> >> admit it?s because I want to, not necessarily NEED to. It ain?t
> broke,
> >> but I am fixing it(?). Didn?t want to admit that, but...Lol.
> There
> >> really is an ulterior motive, but I just don?t want to mention it
> right
> >> now; but I ran my idea past Brassworks - who says they will
> >> ?build-to-suit? - but the Hall unit looks to be
> ?tried-and-proven?.
> >> Now - fans. I really don?t know the brand name of my fans, but
> they are
> >> suckers - about 12? diameter - and the blades are ?curved? -
> >> sickle-shaped. The names that been bouncing around are Mariah,
> SPAL,
> >> and Flex-a-lite. I had read someone?s post about the
> Flex-a-lite?s
> >> since they said they can be - or are - mounted in a shroud that
> is a
> >> perfect match for the Pantera radiator size. I think. And someone
> >> offered-up a part number, but I deleted (or lost) it. All normal
> for
> >> me.
> >> So - I am ready for opinions/suggestions:
> >> jack
> >> #4348
> >> ------------------------------
> >> Message: 2
> >> Date: Fri, 16 Sep 2016 16:54:05 +0000
> >> From: "Himes, Terry (397C)"
> >> <terry.himes at jpl.nasa.gov<mailto:terry.himes at jpl.nasa.gov>>
> >> To: Jack Donahue
> <demongusta at gmail.com<mailto:demongusta at gmail.com>>,
> >>
> >>
> "detomaso at server.detomasolist.com<mailto:detomaso at server.detomasolist.c
> >> om>"
> >>
> <detomaso at server.detomasolist.com<mailto:detomaso at server.detomasolist.c
> >> om>>
> >> Subject: Re: [DeTomaso] Fans and shroud
> >> Message-ID:
> >>
> <D4016E9F.92F3B%thimes at jpl.nasa.gov<mailto:D4016E9F.92F3B%thimes at jpl.na
> >> sa.gov>>
> >> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8"
> >> Jack,
> >> Good stuff. I too am running the original radiator with new
> fans. I'm
> >> not going to change it
> >> now but I will follow your progress. Someday I will have to deal
> with
> >> it. So keep posting and
> >> I will keep saving the responses. ;-)
> >> Terry
> >> "A Purple Heart proves you were smart enough to hatch a plan,
> >> stupid enough to try it and lucky enough to survive!"
> >> Terry W. Himes
> >> JPL Jet Propulsion Laboratory
> >> Dawn Spacecraft Team
> >> Rosetta Sequence Team Lead
> >> Phone: (818) 393-6261
> >> Cell: (818) 653-8213
> >> Fax: (818) 393-3147
> >>
> thimes at jpl.nasa.gov<[4]mailto:thimes at jpl.nasa.gov><mailto:thimes at jpl.na
> >> sa.gov>
> >> ??
> >> From: DeTomaso
> >>
> <detomaso-bounces at server.detomasolist.com<mailto:detomaso-bounces at serve
> >>
> r.detomasolist.com><[2]mailto:detomaso-bounces at server.detomasolist.com>
> >
> >> on behalf of Jack Donahue
> >>
> <demongusta at gmail.com<mailto:demongusta at gmail.com><mailto:demongusta at gm
> >> ail.com>>
> >> Date: Friday, September 16, 2016 9:29 AM
> >> To:
> >>
> "detomaso at server.detomasolist.com<mailto:detomaso at server.detomasolist.c
> >> om><[3]mailto:detomaso at server.detomasolist.com>"
> >>
> <detomaso at server.detomasolist.com<mailto:detomaso at server.detomasolist.c
> >> om><[4]mailto:detomaso at server.detomasolist.com>>
> >> Cc:
> >>
> "detomaso at server.detomasolist.com<mailto:detomaso at server.detomasolist.c
> >> om><[5]mailto:detomaso at server.detomasolist.com>"
> >>
> <detomaso at server.detomasolist.com<mailto:detomaso at server.detomasolist.c
> >> om><[6]mailto:detomaso at server.detomasolist.com>>
> >> Subject: [DeTomaso] Fans and shroud
> >> Hey all - A few weeks ago I was talking asking The List about
> >> radiators - all said-and-done, I decided on the Hall radiator,
> since I
> >> wanted brass/copper instead of aluminum. And, yes Mike Drew, I
> have to
> >> admit it?s because I want to, not necessarily NEED to. It ain?t
> broke,
> >> but I am fixing it(?). Didn?t want to admit that, but...Lol.
> There
> >> really is an ulterior motive, but I just don?t want to mention it
> right
> >> now; but I ran my idea past Brassworks - who says they will
> >> ?build-to-suit? - but the Hall unit looks to be
> ?tried-and-proven?.
> >> Now - fans. I really don?t know the brand name of my fans, but
> they are
> >> suckers - about 12? diameter - and the blades are ?curved? -
> >> sickle-shaped. The names that been bouncing around are Mariah,
> SPAL,
> >> and Flex-a-lite. I had read someone?s post about the
> Flex-a-lite?s
> >> since they said they can be - or are - mounted in a shroud that
> is a
> >> perfect match for the Pantera radiator size. I think. And someone
> >> offered-up a part number, but I deleted (or lost) it. All normal
> for
> >> me.
> >> So - I am ready for opinions/suggestions:
> >> jack
> >> #4348
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> >> Jack,
> >> Good stuff. I too am running the original radiator with new
> >> fans. I'm
> >> not going to change it
> >> now but I will follow your progress. Someday I will have to
> deal
> >> with
> >> it. So keep posting and
> >> I will keep saving the responses. ;-)
> >> Terry
> >> "A Purple Heart proves you were smart enough to hatch a
> plan,
> >> stupid enough to try it and lucky enough to survive!"
> >> Terry W. Himes
> >> JPL Jet Propulsion Laboratory
> >> Dawn Spacecraft Team
> >> Rosetta Sequence Team Lead
> >> Phone: (818) 393-6261
> >> Cell: (818) 653-8213
> >> Fax: (818) 393-3147
> >> [1]thimes at jpl.nasa.gov<mailto:thimes at jpl.nasa.gov>
> >> From: DeTomaso
> >>
> <[2]detomaso-bounces at server.detomasolist.com<mailto:detomaso-bounces at se
> >> rver.detomasolist.com>> on behalf
> >> of Jack Donahue
> >> <[3]demongusta at gmail.com<mailto:demongusta at gmail.com>>
> >> Date: Friday, September 16, 2016 9:29 AM
> >> To:
> >>
> "[4]detomaso at server.detomasolist.com<mailto:detomaso at server.detomasolis
> >> t.com>"
> >>
> >>
> <[5]detomaso at server.detomasolist.com<mailto:detomaso at server.detomasolis
> >> t.com>>
> >> Cc:
> >>
> "[6]detomaso at server.detomasolist.com<mailto:detomaso at server.detomasolis
> >> t.com>"
> >>
> >>
> <[7]detomaso at server.detomasolist.com<mailto:detomaso at server.detomasolis
> >> t.com>>
> >> Subject: [DeTomaso] Fans and shroud
> >> Hey all - A few weeks ago I was talking asking The List
> >> about radiators - all said-and-done, I decided on the Hall
> >> radiator,
> >> since I wanted brass/copper instead of aluminum. And, yes
> Mike
> >> Drew, I
> >> have to admit it's because I want to, not necessarily NEED
> to. It
> >> ain't
> >> broke, but I am fixing it(?). Didn't want to admit that,
> >> but...Lol.
> >> There really is an ulterior motive, but I just don't want to
> >> mention it
> >> right now; but I ran my idea past Brassworks - who says
> they
> >> will
> >> "build-to-suit" - but the Hall unit looks to be
> >> "tried-and-proven".
> >> Now - fans. I really don't know the brand name of my fans,
> but
> >> they are
> >> suckers - about 12" diameter - and the blades are "curved"
> -
> >> sickle-shaped. The names that been bouncing around are
> Mariah,
> >> SPAL,
> >> and Flex-a-lite. I had read someone's post about the
> Flex-a-lite's
> >> since they said they can be - or are - mounted in a shroud
> that is
> >> a
> >> perfect match for the Pantera radiator size. I think. And
> someone
> >> offered-up a part number, but I deleted (or lost) it. All
> normal
> >> for
> >> me.
> >> So - I am ready for opinions/suggestions:
> >> jack
> >> #4348
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> >> Message: 3
> >> Date: Fri, 16 Sep 2016 10:03:20 -0700
> >> From: MyCars <mycars at comcast.net<mailto:mycars at comcast.net>>
> >> To:
> >>
> detomaso at server.detomasolist.com<mailto:detomaso at server.detomasolist.co
> >> m>
> >> Subject: [DeTomaso] Tires for Grp IV Flared Car
> >> Message-ID:
> >>
> <6fa00360-0d5e-3618-1132-2455f7b0aca2 at comcast.net<mailto:6fa00360-0d5e-
> >> 3618-1132-2455f7b0aca2 at comcast.net>>
> >> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8; format=flowed
> >> I just bought 345-35 R15 Pirelli Asimmetrico (24.8" tall) tires
> for the
> >> rear and wondering what would be a good match for the front.
> >> I found 225-50 R15 Pirelli P Zero Trofeo R (23.9" tall). This
> would
> >> give
> >> the car a bit of rake, but what would the handling be like?
> >> Thanks in advance for your thoughts
> >> Roy
> >> ------------------------------
> >> Message: 4
> >> Date: Fri, 16 Sep 2016 17:08:50 +0000 (UTC)
> >> From: LSJ <lashdeep at yahoo.com<mailto:lashdeep at yahoo.com>>
> >> To: MyCars <mycars at comcast.net<mailto:mycars at comcast.net>>,
> >>
> "detomaso at server.detomasolist.com<mailto:detomaso at server.detomasolist.c
> >> om>"
> >>
> >>
> <detomaso at server.detomasolist.com<mailto:detomaso at server.detomasolist.c
> >> om>>
> >> Subject: Re: [DeTomaso] Tires for Grp IV Flared Car
> >> Message-ID:
> >>
> <1287234121.1004140.1474045730621 at mail.yahoo.com<mailto:1287234121.1004
> >> 140.1474045730621 at mail.yahoo.com>>
> >> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8"
> >> What size wheel up front?
> >> ?LSJ
> >> central wines-spirits?? est 1934
> >> 625 e street nw
> >> washington, dc 20004
> >> centralwines.com
> >> facebook.com/CentralLiquors
> >> 202-737-2800
> >> From: MyCars
> <mycars at comcast.net<mailto:mycars at comcast.net>>
> >> To:
> >>
> detomaso at server.detomasolist.com<mailto:detomaso at server.detomasolist.co
> >> m>
> >> Sent: Friday, September 16, 2016 1:03 PM
> >> Subject: [DeTomaso] Tires for Grp IV Flared Car
> >> I just bought 345-35 R15 Pirelli Asimmetrico (24.8" tall) tires
> for the
> >> rear and wondering what would be a good match for the front.
> >> I found 225-50 R15 Pirelli P Zero Trofeo R (23.9" tall). This
> would
> >> give
> >> the car a bit of rake, but what would the handling be like?
> >> Thanks in advance for your thoughts
> >> Roy
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> >> From: MyCars <mycars at comcast.net<mailto:mycars at comcast.net>>
> >> To:
> >>
> detomaso at server.detomasolist.com<mailto:detomaso at server.detomasolist.co
> >> m>
> >> Sent: Friday, September 16, 2016 1:03 PM
> >> Subject: [DeTomaso] Tires for Grp IV Flared Car
> >> I just bought 345-35 R15 Pirelli Asimmetrico (24.8" tall)
> tires
> >> for the
> >> rear and wondering what would be a good match for the front.
> >> I found 225-50 R15 Pirelli P Zero Trofeo R (23.9" tall).
> This
> >> would
> >> give
> >> the car a bit of rake, but what would the handling be like?
> >> Thanks in advance for your thoughts
> >> Roy
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> >> ------------------------------
> >> Message: 5
> >> Date: Fri, 16 Sep 2016 10:13:05 -0700
> >> From: Jack Donahue
> <demongusta at gmail.com<mailto:demongusta at gmail.com>>
> >> To: "Himes, Terry (397C)"
> >> <terry.himes at jpl.nasa.gov<mailto:terry.himes at jpl.nasa.gov>>
> >> Cc:
> >>
> "detomaso at server.detomasolist.com<mailto:detomaso at server.detomasolist.c
> >> om>"
> >>
> >>
> <detomaso at server.detomasolist.com<mailto:detomaso at server.detomasolist.c
> >> om>>
> >> Subject: Re: [DeTomaso] Fans and shroud
> >> Message-ID:
> >>
> <09791B61-DE0D-40CC-859D-437A8528952A at gmail.com<mailto:09791B61-DE0D-40
> >> CC-859D-437A8528952A at gmail.com>>
> >> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8"
> >> Terry - I don?t have the original radiator - I currently have a
> >> Fluidyne with twin suckers, tilted forward, and A/C condenser in
> front.
> >> Originally, I wanted to just add a shroud, based on a friend of
> mine
> >> who does some serious off-road driving - he swears by a shroud -
> says
> >> it really made a difference for him and that I should AT LEAST
> get one
> >> for the whole ?Pantera-Heat-Prevention Program. That sounds good
> -
> >> (PHPP). Anyway, the more I looked into things, the more I was
> >> ?converted" to brass/copper as it seems to be more reliable -
> and more
> >> repairable (which I like).
> >> jack
> >> On Sep 16, 2016, at 9:54 AM, Himes, Terry (397C)
> >> <terry.himes at jpl.nasa.gov<mailto:terry.himes at jpl.nasa.gov>>
> wrote:
> >> Jack,
> >> Good stuff. I too am running the original radiator with new
> fans. I'm
> >> not going to change it
> >> now but I will follow your progress. Someday I will have to deal
> with
> >> it. So keep posting and
> >> I will keep saving the responses. ;-)
> >> Terry
> >> "A Purple Heart proves you were smart enough to hatch a plan,
> >> stupid enough to try it and lucky enough to survive!"
> >> Terry W. Himes
> >> JPL Jet Propulsion Laboratory
> >> Dawn Spacecraft Team
> >> Rosetta Sequence Team Lead
> >> Phone: (818) 393-6261
> >> Cell: (818) 653-8213
> >> Fax: (818) 393-3147
> >> thimes at jpl.nasa.gov<[20]mailto:thimes at jpl.nasa.gov>
> >> <[21]mailto:thimes at jpl.nasa.gov>
> >> ??
> >> From: DeTomaso
> >>
> <detomaso-bounces at server.detomasolist.com<mailto:detomaso-bounces at serve
> >> r.detomasolist.com>
> >> <[22]mailto:detomaso-bounces at server.detomasolist.com>> on behalf
> of
> >> Jack Donahue <demongusta at gmail.com<mailto:demongusta at gmail.com>
> >> <[23]mailto:demongusta at gmail.com>>
> >> Date: Friday, September 16, 2016 9:29 AM
> >> To:
> >>
> "detomaso at server.detomasolist.com<mailto:detomaso at server.detomasolist.c
> >> om> <[24]mailto:detomaso at server.detomasolist.com>"
> >>
> <detomaso at server.detomasolist.com<mailto:detomaso at server.detomasolist.c
> >> om> <[25]mailto:detomaso at server.detomasolist.com>>
> >> Cc:
> >>
> "detomaso at server.detomasolist.com<mailto:detomaso at server.detomasolist.c
> >> om> <[26]mailto:detomaso at server.detomasolist.com>"
> >>
> <detomaso at server.detomasolist.com<mailto:detomaso at server.detomasolist.c
> >> om> <[27]mailto:detomaso at server.detomasolist.com>>
> >> Subject: [DeTomaso] Fans and shroud
> >> Hey all - A few weeks ago I was talking asking The List about
> >> radiators - all said-and-done, I decided on the Hall radiator,
> since I
> >> wanted brass/copper instead of aluminum. And, yes Mike Drew, I
> have to
> >> admit it?s because I want to, not necessarily NEED to. It ain?t
> broke,
> >> but I am fixing it(?). Didn?t want to admit that, but...Lol.
> There
> >> really is an ulterior motive, but I just don?t want to mention it
> right
> >> now; but I ran my idea past Brassworks - who says they will
> >> ?build-to-suit? - but the Hall unit looks to be
> ?tried-and-proven?.
> >> Now - fans. I really don?t know the brand name of my fans, but
> they are
> >> suckers - about 12? diameter - and the blades are ?curved? -
> >> sickle-shaped. The names that been bouncing around are Mariah,
> SPAL,
> >> and Flex-a-lite. I had read someone?s post about the
> Flex-a-lite?s
> >> since they said they can be - or are - mounted in a shroud that
> is a
> >> perfect match for the Pantera radiator size. I think. And someone
> >> offered-up a part number, but I deleted (or lost) it. All normal
> for
> >> me.
> >> So - I am ready for opinions/suggestions:
> >> jack
> >> #4348
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> >> Terry - I don't have the original radiator - I currently
> have a
> >> Fluidyne with twin suckers, tilted forward, and A/C
> condenser in
> >> front.
> >> Originally, I wanted to just add a shroud, based on a friend
> of
> >> mine
> >> who does some serious off-road driving - he swears by a
> shroud -
> >> says
> >> it really made a difference for him and that I should AT
> LEAST get
> >> one
> >> for the whole "Pantera-Heat-Prevention Program. That sounds
> good -
> >> (PHPP). Anyway, the more I looked into things, the more I
> was
> >> "converted" to brass/copper as it seems to be more reliable
> - and
> >> more
> >> repairable (which I like).
> >> jack
> >> On Sep 16, 2016, at 9:54 AM, Himes, Terry (397C)
> >>
> <[1]terry.himes at jpl.nasa.gov<mailto:terry.himes at jpl.nasa.gov>>
> >> wrote:
> >> Jack,
> >> Good stuff. I too am running the original radiator with new
> >> fans. I'm
> >> not going to change it
> >> now but I will follow your progress. Someday I will have to
> deal
> >> with
> >> it. So keep posting and
> >> I will keep saving the responses. ;-)
> >> Terry
> >> "A Purple Heart proves you were smart enough to hatch a
> plan,
> >> stupid enough to try it and lucky enough to survive!"
> >> Terry W. Himes
> >> JPL Jet Propulsion Laboratory
> >> Dawn Spacecraft Team
> >> Rosetta Sequence Team Lead
> >> Phone: (818) 393-6261
> >> Cell: (818) 653-8213
> >> Fax: (818) 393-3147
> >> [2]thimes at jpl.nasa.gov<mailto:thimes at jpl.nasa.gov>
> >> From: DeTomaso
> >>
> <[3]detomaso-bounces at server.detomasolist.com<mailto:detomaso-bounces at se
> >> rver.detomasolist.com>> on behalf
> >> of Jack Donahue
> >> <[4]demongusta at gmail.com<mailto:demongusta at gmail.com>>
> >> Date: Friday, September 16, 2016 9:29 AM
> >> To:
> >>
> "[5]detomaso at server.detomasolist.com<mailto:detomaso at server.detomasolis
> >> t.com>"
> >>
> >>
> <[6]detomaso at server.detomasolist.com<mailto:detomaso at server.detomasolis
> >> t.com>>
> >> Cc:
> >>
> "[7]detomaso at server.detomasolist.com<mailto:detomaso at server.detomasolis
> >> t.com>"
> >>
> >>
> <[8]detomaso at server.detomasolist.com<mailto:detomaso at server.detomasolis
> >> t.com>>
> >> Subject: [DeTomaso] Fans and shroud
> >> Hey all - A few weeks ago I was talking asking The List
> >> about radiators - all said-and-done, I decided on the Hall
> >> radiator,
> >> since I wanted brass/copper instead of aluminum. And, yes
> Mike
> >> Drew, I
> >> have to admit it's because I want to, not necessarily NEED
> to. It
> >> ain't
> >> broke, but I am fixing it(?). Didn't want to admit that,
> >> but...Lol.
> >> There really is an ulterior motive, but I just don't want to
> >> mention it
> >> right now; but I ran my idea past Brassworks - who says
> they
> >> will
> >> "build-to-suit" - but the Hall unit looks to be
> >> "tried-and-proven".
> >> Now - fans. I really don't know the brand name of my fans,
> but
> >> they are
> >> suckers - about 12" diameter - and the blades are "curved"
> -
> >> sickle-shaped. The names that been bouncing around are
> Mariah,
> >> SPAL,
> >> and Flex-a-lite. I had read someone's post about the
> Flex-a-lite's
> >> since they said they can be - or are - mounted in a shroud
> that is
> >> a
> >> perfect match for the Pantera radiator size. I think. And
> someone
> >> offered-up a part number, but I deleted (or lost) it. All
> normal
> >> for
> >> me.
> >> So - I am ready for opinions/suggestions:
> >> jack
> >> #4348
> >> _______________________________________________
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> >> References
> >> 1. [31]mailto:terry.himes at jpl.nasa.gov
> >> 2. [32]mailto:thimes at jpl.nasa.gov
> >> 3. [33]mailto:detomaso-bounces at server.detomasolist.com
> >> 4. [34]mailto:demongusta at gmail.com
> >> 5. [35]mailto:detomaso at server.detomasolist.com
> >> 6. [36]mailto:detomaso at server.detomasolist.com
> >> 7. [37]mailto:detomaso at server.detomasolist.com
> >> 8. [38]mailto:detomaso at server.detomasolist.com
> >> 9. [39]mailto:DeTomaso at server.detomasolist.com
> >> 10.
> [40]http://server.detomasolist.com/mailman/listinfo/detomaso
> >> ------------------------------
> >> Message: 6
> >> Date: Fri, 16 Sep 2016 10:17:31 -0700
> >> From: Jack Donahue
> <demongusta at gmail.com<mailto:demongusta at gmail.com>>
> >> To: GR2835 at comcast.net<[41]mailto:GR2835 at comcast.net>
> >> Cc:
> >>
> "detomaso at server.detomasolist.com<mailto:detomaso at server.detomasolist.c
> >> om>"
> >>
> >>
> <detomaso at server.detomasolist.com<mailto:detomaso at server.detomasolist.c
> >> om>>
> >> Subject: Re: [DeTomaso] Fans and shroud
> >> Message-ID:
> >>
> <2334BABE-726C-4D16-85EA-BB997B2B61CB at gmail.com<mailto:2334BABE-726C-4D
> >> 16-85EA-BB997B2B61CB at gmail.com>>
> >> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8
> >> There-in lies one of my problems - I could never MAKE a shroud. I
> wish
> >> I could - maybe out of foil-wrap. I will check out that website,
> >> thanks.
> >> On Sep 16, 2016, at 10:07 AM,
> >> GR2835 at comcast.net<[42]mailto:GR2835 at comcast.net> wrote:
> >> Pantera Electronics has recommended fans with part numbers under
> the
> >> fan controller button on their website.
> >> I have a stock radiator that was modified for lay down and air
> >> conditioning condenser up front........I have a fan shroud that I
> made
> >> and mounted the 2 sucker fans. 192 thermostat ran 192 in a 14
> mile
> >> traffic jam last year that.took me 90 minutes to get
> >> through.......temperature was 98 degrees leaving the 2015
> Woodward
> >> Cruise...........my wife complained that she was too cold with
> the air
> >> set on the warmest setting.
> >> Good luck
> >> Gerry in Illinois
> >> ----- Original Message -----
> >> From: Jack Donahue
> <demongusta at gmail.com<mailto:demongusta at gmail.com>>
> >> To:
> >>
> detomaso at server.detomasolist.com<mailto:detomaso at server.detomasolist.co
> >> m>
> >> Cc:
> >>
> detomaso at server.detomasolist.com<mailto:detomaso at server.detomasolist.co
> >> m>
> >> Sent: Fri, 16 Sep 2016 16:29:46 -0000 (UTC)
> >> Subject: [DeTomaso] Fans and shroud
> >> Hey all - A few weeks ago I was talking asking The List about
> >> radiators - all said-and-done, I decided on the Hall radiator,
> since I
> >> wanted brass/copper instead of aluminum. And, yes Mike Drew, I
> have to
> >> admit it?s because I want to, not necessarily NEED to. It ain?t
> broke,
> >> but I am fixing it(?). Didn?t want to admit that, but...Lol.
> There
> >> really is an ulterior motive, but I just don?t want to mention it
> right
> >> now; but I ran my idea past Brassworks - who says they will
> >> ?build-to-suit? - but the Hall unit looks to be
> ?tried-and-proven?.
> >> Now - fans. I really don?t know the brand name of my fans, but
> they are
> >> suckers - about 12? diameter - and the blades are ?curved? -
> >> sickle-shaped. The names that been bouncing around are Mariah,
> SPAL,
> >> and Flex-a-lite. I had read someone?s post about the
> Flex-a-lite?s
> >> since they said they can be - or are - mounted in a shroud that
> is a
> >> perfect match for the Pantera radiator size. I think. And someone
> >> offered-up a part number, but I deleted (or lost) it. All normal
> for
> >> me.
> >> So - I am ready for opinions/suggestions:
> >> jack
> >> #4348
> >> _______________________________________________
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> >> ------------------------------
> >> Message: 7
> >> Date: Fri, 16 Sep 2016 11:24:26 -0700
> >> From: Larry Stock
> >> <larrys at panteraparts.com<mailto:larrys at panteraparts.com>>
> >> To: Jack Donahue
> <demongusta at gmail.com<mailto:demongusta at gmail.com>>
> >> Cc:
> >>
> "detomaso at server.detomasolist.com<mailto:detomaso at server.detomasolist.c
> >> om>"
> >>
> >>
> <detomaso at server.detomasolist.com<mailto:detomaso at server.detomasolist.c
> >> om>>
> >> Subject: Re: [DeTomaso] Fans and shroud
> >> Message-ID:
> >>
> <D4018324.17A0EF%larrys at panteraparts.com<mailto:D4018324.17A0EF%larrys@
> >> panteraparts.com>>
> >> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="ISO-8859-1"
> >> Hi Jack,
> >> You should be able to use the fans off the Fluidyne, if not we
> have our
> >> Maridyne system fans and our own bracket kit and if you need
> shrouds
> >> for a
> >> full lie-down system, we have those too. Typically we recommend
> our
> >> half
> >> Lay forward system which minimizes the thru air turbulence.
> >> 11041B Defl. Rad. S.S. Lay down for kit $95.00
> >> 11042B Stainless deflector right $65.00
> >> 11043B Stainless deflector left $65.00
> >> 11055B Radiator Puller Fan Shroud SS Mounting brackets set of 3
> $125.00
> >> 11055P PPC Puller Fans & Shroud Assy $325.00
> >> If the Hall Brass radiator has the stock quick 90 degree hard
> radiator
> >> tubes installed, you will not be able to mount a puller fan
> shroud
> >> under
> >> those tubes, if it has the straight out tubes then you can use 90
> >> degree
> >> molded rubber hoses to clear the Puller shroud like your
> Fluidyne.
> >> Larry Stock
> >> Pantera Parts Connection LC
> >> 550 Mallory Way
> >> Carson City NV 89701
> >> [44]www.PanteraParts.com<http://www.PanteraParts.com>
> >> PH 775-283-4411
> >> Fax 775-283-4410
> >> Cell 1-800-DeTomaso 800-338-6627
> >> On 9/16/16, 9:29 AM, "DeTomaso on behalf of Jack Donahue"
> >>
> <detomaso-bounces at server.detomasolist.com<mailto:detomaso-bounces at serve
> >> r.detomasolist.com> on behalf of
> >> demongusta at gmail.com<mailto:demongusta at gmail.com>> wrote:
> >> Hey all - A few weeks ago I was talking asking The List about
> >> radiators
> >> - all said-and-done, I decided on the Hall radiator, since I
> wanted
> >> brass/copper instead of aluminum. And, yes Mike Drew, I have to
> admit
> >> it?s because I want to, not necessarily NEED to. It ain?t broke,
> but I
> >> am
> >> fixing it(?). Didn?t want to admit that, but...Lol. There really
> is an
> >> ulterior motive, but I just don?t want to mention it right now;
> but I
> >> ran
> >> my idea past Brassworks - who says they will ?build-to-suit? -
> but
> >> the
> >> Hall unit looks to be ?tried-and-proven?.
> >> Now - fans. I really don?t know the brand name of my fans, but
> they are
> >> suckers - about 12? diameter - and the blades are ?curved? -
> >> sickle-shaped. The names that been bouncing around are Mariah,
> SPAL,
> >> and
> >> Flex-a-lite. I had read someone?s post about the Flex-a-lite?s
> since
> >> they
> >> said they can be - or are - mounted in a shroud that is a perfect
> match
> >> for the Pantera radiator size. I think. And someone offered-up a
> part
> >> number, but I deleted (or lost) it. All normal for me.
> >> So - I am ready for opinions/suggestions:
> >> jack
> >> #4348
> >> _______________________________________________
> >> Detomaso Email List is not managed by POCA
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> >> m>
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> >> use
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> >> They also grant the list owner permission to maintain an archive
> or
> >> approve the archiving of list messages.
> >> ------------------------------
> >> Message: 8
> >> Date: Fri, 16 Sep 2016 14:09:55 -0500
> >> From: Cullen McCann
> >> <cmccann1972 at gmail.com<mailto:cmccann1972 at gmail.com>>
> >> To:
> >>
> detomaso at server.detomasolist.com<mailto:detomaso at server.detomasolist.co
> >> m>
> >> Subject: [DeTomaso] McLeod hydraulic throw out
> >> Message-ID:
> >>
> >>
> <CAFwr-MXfE-RBLar+qAHGPYYWnwSszwYufvAcAcUT2ngvZZ1Aqg at mail.gmail.com<mai
> >>
> lto:CAFwr-MXfE-RBLar+qAHGPYYWnwSszwYufvAcAcUT2ngvZZ1Aqg at mail.gmail.com>
> >> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8"
> >> Good afternoon!
> >> Has anyone installed the McLeod hydraulic throwout bearing that
> they
> >> say is
> >> Pantera specific for the ZF, and what was your experience? I've
> had a
> >> fantastic experience with them on another performance car
> application.
> >> [46]https://www.summitracing.com/parts/mcl-1402-22
> >> Thank you!!
> >> -------------- next part --------------
> >> Good afternoon!
> >> Has anyone installed the McLeod hydraulic throwout bearing
> that
> >> they
> >> say is Pantera specific for the ZF, and what was your
> experience?
> >> I've
> >> had a fantastic experience with them on another performance
> car
> >> application.
> >> [1]https://www.summitracing.com/parts/mcl-1402-22
> >> Thank you!!
> >> References
> >> 1. [47]https://www.summitracing.com/parts/mcl-1402-22
> >> ------------------------------
> >> Message: 9
> >> Date: Fri, 16 Sep 2016 19:27:46 +0000 (UTC)
> >> From: Ken Green
> <kenn_green at yahoo.com<mailto:kenn_green at yahoo.com>>
> >> To: Jack Donahue
> <demongusta at gmail.com<mailto:demongusta at gmail.com>>,
> >>
> >>
> "detomaso at server.detomasolist.com<mailto:detomaso at server.detomasolist.c
> >> om>"
> >>
> <detomaso at server.detomasolist.com<mailto:detomaso at server.detomasolist.c
> >> om>>
> >> Subject: Re: [DeTomaso] Fans and shroud
> >> Message-ID:
> >>
> <1796334072.2409059.1474054066544 at mail.yahoo.com<mailto:1796334072.2409
> >> 059.1474054066544 at mail.yahoo.com>>
> >> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8"
> >> Jack,
> >> ??? You should be able to find the fan and shroud here:
> >>
> [48]https://www.flex-a-lite.com/electric-fans/12-volt-electric-fans/uni
> >> versal/primary-fans.html
> >> From: Jack Donahue
> >> <demongusta at gmail.com<mailto:demongusta at gmail.com>>
> >> To:
> >>
> "detomaso at server.detomasolist.com<mailto:detomaso at server.detomasolist.c
> >> om>"
> >>
> <detomaso at server.detomasolist.com<mailto:detomaso at server.detomasolist.c
> >> om>>
> >> Cc:
> >>
> "detomaso at server.detomasolist.com<mailto:detomaso at server.detomasolist.c
> >> om>"
> >>
> <detomaso at server.detomasolist.com<mailto:detomaso at server.detomasolist.c
> >> om>>
> >> Sent: Friday, September 16, 2016 9:29 AM
> >> Subject: [DeTomaso] Fans and shroud
> >> Hey all - A few weeks ago I was talking asking The List about?
> >> radiators - all said-and-done, I decided on the Hall radiator,
> since I
> >> wanted brass/copper instead of aluminum.? And, yes Mike Drew, I
> have to
> >> admit it?s because I want to, not necessarily NEED to. It ain?t
> broke,
> >> but I am fixing it(?). Didn?t want to admit that, but...Lol.
> There
> >> really is an ulterior motive, but I just don?t want to mention it
> right
> >> now; but I ran my idea past? Brassworks? - who says they will
> >> ?build-to-suit? - but the Hall unit looks to be
> ?tried-and-proven?.
> >> Now - fans. I really don?t know the brand name of my fans, but
> they are
> >> suckers - about 12? diameter - and the blades are ?curved?? -
> >> sickle-shaped. The names that been bouncing around are Mariah,
> SPAL,
> >> and Flex-a-lite. I had read someone?s post about the
> Flex-a-lite?s
> >> since they said they can be - or are - mounted in a shroud that
> is a
> >> perfect match for the Pantera radiator size. I think. And someone
> >> offered-up? a part number, but I deleted (or lost) it. All normal
> for
> >> me.
> >> So - I am ready for opinions/suggestions:
> >> jack
> >> #4348
> >> _______________________________________________
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> >> Jack,
> >> You should be able to find the fan and shroud here:
> >>
> >>
> [1]https://www.flex-a-lite.com/electric-fans/12-volt-electric-fans/univ
> >> ersal/primary-fans.html
> >>
> >>
> __________________________________________________________________
> >> From: Jack Donahue
> >> <demongusta at gmail.com<mailto:demongusta at gmail.com>>
> >> To:
> >>
> "detomaso at server.detomasolist.com<mailto:detomaso at server.detomasolist.c
> >> om>"
> >>
> >>
> <detomaso at server.detomasolist.com<mailto:detomaso at server.detomasolist.c
> >> om>>
> >> Cc:
> >>
> "detomaso at server.detomasolist.com<mailto:detomaso at server.detomasolist.c
> >> om>"
> >>
> >>
> <detomaso at server.detomasolist.com<mailto:detomaso at server.detomasolist.c
> >> om>>
> >> Sent: Friday, September 16, 2016 9:29 AM
> >> Subject: [DeTomaso] Fans and shroud
> >> Hey all - A few weeks ago I was talking asking The List
> about
> >> radiators - all said-and-done, I decided on the Hall
> radiator,
> >> since I
> >> wanted brass/copper instead of aluminum. And, yes Mike
> Drew, I
> >> have to
> >> admit itas because I want to, not necessarily NEED to. It
> ainat
> >> broke,
> >> but I am fixing it(?). Didnat want to admit that, but...Lol.
> There
> >> really is an ulterior motive, but I just donat want to
> mention it
> >> right
> >> now; but I ran my idea past Brassworks - who says they
> will
> >> abuild-to-suita - but the Hall unit looks to be
> >> atried-and-provena.
> >> Now - fans. I really donat know the brand name of my fans,
> but
> >> they are
> >> suckers - about 12a diameter - and the blades are acurveda
> -
> >> sickle-shaped. The names that been bouncing around are
> Mariah,
> >> SPAL,
> >> and Flex-a-lite. I had read someoneas post about the
> Flex-a-liteas
> >> since they said they can be - or are - mounted in a shroud
> that is
> >> a
> >> perfect match for the Pantera radiator size. I think. And
> someone
> >> offered-up a part number, but I deleted (or lost) it. All
> normal
> >> for
> >> me.
> >> So - I am ready for opinions/suggestions:
> >> jack
> >> #4348
> >> _______________________________________________
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> >> References
> >> 1.
> >>
> [50]https://www.flex-a-lite.com/electric-fans/12-volt-electric-fans/uni
> >> versal/primary-fans.html
> >> 2. [51]mailto:DeTomaso at server.detomasolist.com
> >> 3.
> [52]http://server.detomasolist.com/mailman/listinfo/detomaso
> >> ------------------------------
> >> Message: 10
> >> Date: Fri, 16 Sep 2016 12:35:17 -0700
> >> From: Larry Finch
> <fresnofinches at aol.com<mailto:fresnofinches at aol.com>>
> >> To: Email List Address For Posting
> >>
> <detomaso at server.detomasolist.com<mailto:detomaso at server.detomasolist.c
> >> om>>
> >> Subject: [DeTomaso] McLeod hydraulic throw out
> >> Message-ID:
> >>
> <6C366701-6502-47C0-A0DC-59494515D156 at aol.com<mailto:6C366701-6502-47C0
> >> -A0DC-59494515D156 at aol.com>>
> >> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8
> >> Cullen,
> >> 2511 came equipped with one of those from Dennis when I purchased
> it in
> >> 2002. Since then I have rebuilt the unit twice (three?) and most
> >> recently did so using what I believe to be their current
> offering. I
> >> spoke with and ordered directly from McLeod.
> >> My opinion, in brief, is a very simple "NO!!"
> >> The current offering was shipped to me with an incorrect input
> snout
> >> spacer (I solved that by using the old spacer which luckily I
> still had
> >> on hand), and the stainless steel input line, due to its 90?
> fitting
> >> where one should have used a 45? fitting, twisted itself, unseen
> of
> >> course, within the bell housing when it was connected to the hard
> line
> >> attached to the chassis rails. Even stainless steel lines don't
> hold up
> >> very long against grinding by a pressure plate.
> >> The stainless steel bleed line is about 4 inches too long,
> sticking
> >> outside the bell housing in a terrible display of ugly.
> >> Finally, my last experience started with me ordering the same
> rebuild
> >> kit I had previously used, using the same number off of the
> previous
> >> invoice. What I received from them was the rebuild kit for the
> current
> >> unit which uses an entirely different set of all rings. I
> ultimately
> >> determined that for all three generations of their hydraulic
> bearing
> >> McLeod has used exactly the same rebuild kit part number. They
> added no
> >> suffix such as a ? A or a ?B which to me seems indicative of a
> problem
> >> within the company. No, they no longer support a rebuild kit for
> the
> >> first two generations.
> >> While you have some experience in using one of these previously,
> the
> >> task of establishing proper free play and clearances is quite
> exacting
> >> and unforgiving. If you get it wrong there is nothing left to do
> but
> >> pull the transaxle and start all over again.
> >> The unit I have is now adjusted for the factory shortcomings and
> as has
> >> been my experience for over 50,000 miles, the system works just
> fine.
> >> Dennis however no longer recommends their installation and based
> on my
> >> experience I would not encourage any other owners to venture down
> that
> >> road for themselves.
> >> Feel free to reach out to me off-line or by phone for more of the
> gory
> >> details.
> >> Larry
> >> Sent from me using a magic, handheld electronic gizmo.
> >> ------------------------------
> >> Message: 11
> >> Date: Fri, 16 Sep 2016 12:50:41 -0700
> >> From: MyCars <mycars at comcast.net<mailto:mycars at comcast.net>>
> >> To: LSJ <lashdeep at yahoo.com<mailto:lashdeep at yahoo.com>>,
> >>
> "detomaso at server.detomasolist.com<mailto:detomaso at server.detomasolist.c
> >> om>"
> >>
> >>
> <detomaso at server.detomasolist.com<mailto:detomaso at server.detomasolist.c
> >> om>>
> >> Subject: Re: [DeTomaso] Tires for Grp IV Flared Car
> >> Message-ID:
> >>
> <37e8f14d-dde9-3ce5-f312-4dd9b1c3f234 at comcast.net<mailto:37e8f14d-dde9-
> >> 3ce5-f312-4dd9b1c3f234 at comcast.net>>
> >> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8"; Format="flowed"
> >> Going off memory (my car is still in Seattle) I am in San Diego
> area.
> >> They are 15" Aluminum Weld 5-spoke rims, that I believe are about
> 9.5"
> >> wide.
> >> On 9/16/2016 10:08 AM, LSJ wrote:
> >> What size wheel up front?
> >> LSJ
> >> /*central */
> >> /*wines-spirits est 1934
> >> */
> >> /*
> >> */
> >> /*625 e street nw
> >> */
> >> /*washington, dc 20004*/
> >> /*
> >> */
> >> /*centralwines.com <[53]http://centralwines.com/>
> >> */
> >> /*
> >> */
> >> /*facebook.com/CentralLiquors
> <[54]http://facebook.com/CentralLiquors>
> >> */
> >> /*
> >> */
> >> /*202-737-2800*/
> >>
> -----------------------------------------------------------------------
> >> -
> >> *From:* MyCars <mycars at comcast.net<mailto:mycars at comcast.net>>
> >> *To:*
> >>
> detomaso at server.detomasolist.com<mailto:detomaso at server.detomasolist.co
> >> m>
> >> *Sent:* Friday, September 16, 2016 1:03 PM
> >> *Subject:* [DeTomaso] Tires for Grp IV Flared Car
> >> I just bought 345-35 R15 Pirelli Asimmetrico (24.8" tall) tires
> for the
> >> rear and wondering what would be a good match for the front.
> >> I found 225-50 R15 Pirelli P Zero Trofeo R (23.9" tall). This
> would
> >> give
> >> the car a bit of rake, but what would the handling be like?
> >> Thanks in advance for your thoughts
> >> Roy
> >> _______________________________________________
> >> Detomaso Email List is not managed by POCA
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> DeTomaso at server.detomasolist.com<mailto:DeTomaso at server.detomasolist.co
> >> m> <[55]mailto:DeTomaso at server.detomasolist.com>
> >> [56]http://server.detomasolist.com/mailman/listinfo/detomaso
> >> To manage your subscription (change email address, unsubscribe,
> etc.)
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> >> -------------- next part --------------
> >> Going off memory (my car is still in Seattle) I am in San
> Diego
> >> area.
> >> They are 15" Aluminum Weld 5-spoke rims, that I believe are
> about
> >> 9.5"
> >> wide.
> >> On 9/16/2016 10:08 AM, LSJ wrote:
> >> What size wheel up front?
> >> LSJ
> >> central
> >> wines-spirits est 1934
> >> 625 e street nw
> >> washington, dc 20004
> >> [1]centralwines.com
> >> [2]facebook.com/CentralLiquors
> >> 202-737-2800
> >>
> >>
> __________________________________________________________________
> >> From: MyCars
> [3]<mycars at comcast.net<mailto:mycars at comcast.net>>
> >> To:
> >>
> [4]detomaso at server.detomasolist.com<mailto:detomaso at server.detomasolist
> >> .com>
> >> Sent: Friday, September 16, 2016 1:03 PM
> >> Subject: [DeTomaso] Tires for Grp IV Flared Car
> >> I just bought 345-35 R15 Pirelli Asimmetrico (24.8" tall)
> tires
> >> for the
> >> rear and wondering what would be a good match for the front.
> >> I found 225-50 R15 Pirelli P Zero Trofeo R (23.9" tall).
> This
> >> would
> >> give
> >> the car a bit of rake, but what would the handling be like?
> >> Thanks in advance for your thoughts
> >> Roy
> >> _______________________________________________
> >> Detomaso Email List is not managed by POCA
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> >> References
> >> 1. [57]http://centralwines.com/
> >> 2. [58]http://facebook.com/CentralLiquors
> >> 3. [59]mailto:mycars at comcast.net
> >> 4. [60]mailto:detomaso at server.detomasolist.com
> >> 5. [61]mailto:DeTomaso at server.detomasolist.com
> >> 6.
> [62]http://server.detomasolist.com/mailman/listinfo/detomaso
> >> ------------------------------
> >> Message: 12
> >> Date: Fri, 16 Sep 2016 13:00:36 -0700
> >> From: MyCars <mycars at comcast.net<mailto:mycars at comcast.net>>
> >> To:
> >>
> detomaso at server.detomasolist.com<mailto:detomaso at server.detomasolist.co
> >> m>
> >> Subject: Re: [DeTomaso] Tires for Grp IV Flared Car
> >> Message-ID:
> >>
> <013ad905-7f93-99e8-761f-878f602ee6cb at comcast.net<mailto:013ad905-7f93-
> >> 99e8-761f-878f602ee6cb at comcast.net>>
> >> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="windows-1252"; Format="flowed"
> >> I just checked Weld's website
> >>
> [63]http://weldwheels.com/shop/street-strip/sport-forged-wheels/prostar
> >> .html
> >> They do not offer a 15" rim 9.5" wide, so I would guess they are
> 9"
> >> wide
> >> On 9/16/2016 12:50 PM, MyCars wrote:
> >> Going off memory (my car is still in Seattle) I am in San
> Diego
> >> area.
> >> They are 15" Aluminum Weld 5-spoke rims, that I believe are
> about
> >> 9.5"
> >> wide.
> >> On 9/16/2016 10:08 AM, LSJ wrote:
> >> What size wheel up front?
> >> LSJ
> >> central
> >> wines-spirits est 1934
> >> 625 e street nw
> >> washington, dc 20004
> >> [1]centralwines.com
> >> [2]facebook.com/CentralLiquors
> >> 202-737-2800
> >>
> >>
> __________________________________________________________________
> >> From: MyCars
> [3]<mycars at comcast.net<mailto:mycars at comcast.net>>
> >> To:
> >>
> [4]detomaso at server.detomasolist.com<mailto:detomaso at server.detomasolist
> >> .com>
> >> Sent: Friday, September 16, 2016 1:03 PM
> >> Subject: [DeTomaso] Tires for Grp IV Flared Car
> >> I just bought 345-35 R15 Pirelli Asimmetrico (24.8" tall)
> tires
> >> for the
> >> rear and wondering what would be a good match for the
> front.
> >> I found 225-50 R15 Pirelli P Zero Trofeo R (23.9" tall).
> This
> >> would
> >> give
> >> the car a bit of rake, but what would the handling be like?
> >> Thanks in advance for your thoughts
> >> Roy
> >> _______________________________________________
> >> Detomaso Email List is not managed by POCA
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> >> References
> >> 1. [64]http://centralwines.com/
> >> 2. [65]http://facebook.com/CentralLiquors
> >> 3. [66]mailto:mycars at comcast.net
> >> 4. [67]mailto:detomaso at server.detomasolist.com
> >> 5. [68]mailto:DeTomaso at server.detomasolist.com
> >> 6.
> [69]http://server.detomasolist.com/mailman/listinfo/detomaso
> >> _______________________________________________
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> >> -------------- next part --------------
> >> I just checked Weld's website
> >>
> >>
> [1]http://weldwheels.com/shop/street-strip/sport-forged-wheels/prostar.
> >> html
> >> They do not offer a 15" rim 9.5" wide, so I would guess they
> are
> >> 9"
> >> wide
> >> On 9/16/2016 12:50 PM, MyCars wrote:
> >> Going off memory (my car is still in Seattle) I am in San
> Diego
> >> area.
> >> They are 15" Aluminum Weld 5-spoke rims, that I believe are
> about
> >> 9.5"
> >> wide.
> >> On 9/16/2016 10:08 AM, LSJ wrote:
> >> What size wheel up front?
> >> LSJ
> >> central
> >> wines-spirits est 1934
> >> 625 e street nw
> >> washington, dc 20004
> >> [1]centralwines.com
> >> [2]facebook.com/CentralLiquors
> >> 202-737-2800
> >>
> >>
> __________________________________________________________________
> >> From: MyCars
> [3][2]<mycars at comcast.net<mailto:mycars at comcast.net>>
> >> To:
> >>
> [[3]4]detomaso at server.detomasolist.com<mailto:detomaso at server.detomasol
> >> ist.com>
> >> Sent: Friday, September 16, 2016 1:03 PM
> >> Subject: [DeTomaso] Tires for Grp IV Flared Car
> >> I just bought 345-35 R15 Pirelli Asimmetrico (24.8" tall)
> tires
> >> for the
> >> rear and wondering what would be a good match for the front.
> >> I found 225-50 R15 Pirelli P Zero Trofeo R (23.9" tall).
> This
> >> would
> >> give
> >> the car a bit of rake, but what would the handling be like?
> >> Thanks in advance for your thoughts
> >> Roy
> >> _______________________________________________
> >> Detomaso Email List is not managed by POCA
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> >>
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> >> References
> >> 1. [6]http://centralwines.com/
> >> 2. [7]http://facebook.com/CentralLiquors
> >> 3. [8]mailto:mycars at comcast.net
> >> 4. [9]mailto:detomaso at server.detomasolist.com
> >> 5. [10]mailto:DeTomaso at server.detomasolist.com
> >> 6.
> [11]http://server.detomasolist.com/mailman/listinfo/detomaso
> >> _______________________________________________
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> >> t.com>
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> >> To manage your subscription (change email address, unsubscribe,
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> >> t messages.
> >> References
> >> 1.
> >>
> [71]http://weldwheels.com/shop/street-strip/sport-forged-wheels/prostar
> >> .html
> >> 2. [72]mailto:mycars at comcast.net
> >> 3. [73]mailto:4]detomaso at server.detomasolist.com
> >> 4. [74]mailto:5]DeTomaso at server.detomasolist.com
> >> 5.
> [75]http://server.detomasolist.com/mailman/listinfo/detomaso
> >> 6. [76]http://centralwines.com/
> >> 7. [77]http://facebook.com/CentralLiquors
> >> 8. [78]mailto:mycars at comcast.net
> >> 9. [79]mailto:detomaso at server.detomasolist.com
> >> 10. [80]mailto:DeTomaso at server.detomasolist.com
> >> 11.
> [81]http://server.detomasolist.com/mailman/listinfo/detomaso
> >> 12. [82]mailto:DeTomaso at server.detomasolist.com
> >> 13.
> [83]http://server.detomasolist.com/mailman/listinfo/detomaso
> >> ------------------------------
> >> Message: 13
> >> Date: Fri, 16 Sep 2016 16:26:27 -0400
> >> From: Will Kooiman
> >> <will.kooiman at gmail.com<mailto:will.kooiman at gmail.com>>
> >> To: Larry Finch
> <fresnofinches at aol.com<mailto:fresnofinches at aol.com>>,
> >> Email List Address For
> >> Posting
> >>
> <detomaso at server.detomasolist.com<mailto:detomaso at server.detomasolist.c
> >> om>>
> >> Subject: Re: [DeTomaso] McLeod hydraulic throw out
> >> Message-ID:
> >>
> <D401CD29.16A666%will.kooiman at gmail.com<mailto:D401CD29.16A666%will.koo
> >> iman at gmail.com>>
> >> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="ISO-8859-1"
> >> Wow.
> >> I have one in my Cobra, and so far it has worked perfectly.
> >> My Cobra came with an external slave from a Volvo that was
> readily
> >> available 20 years ago, but is now unobtanium. Rather than
> building a
> >> new
> >> bracket for a different slave, I switched to a McLeod slave.
> >> At any rate, as I said, it has worked perfectly - so far.
> >> --
> >> Will
> >> On 9/16/16 3:35 PM, "Larry Finch via DeTomaso"
> >>
> <detomaso at server.detomasolist.com<mailto:detomaso at server.detomasolist.c
> >> om>> wrote:
> >> Cullen,
> >> 2511 came equipped with one of those from Dennis when I purchased
> it in
> >> 2002. Since then I have rebuilt the unit twice (three?) and most
> >> recently
> >> did so using what I believe to be their current offering. I spoke
> with
> >> and ordered directly from McLeod.
> >> My opinion, in brief, is a very simple "NO!!"
> >> The current offering was shipped to me with an incorrect input
> snout
> >> spacer (I solved that by using the old spacer which luckily I
> still had
> >> on hand), and the stainless steel input line, due to its 90?
> fitting
> >> where one should have used a 45? fitting, twisted itself, unseen
> of
> >> course, within the bell housing when it was connected to the hard
> line
> >> attached to the chassis rails. Even stainless steel lines don't
> hold up
> >> very long against grinding by a pressure plate.
> >> The stainless steel bleed line is about 4 inches too long,
> sticking
> >> outside the bell housing in a terrible display of ugly.
> >> Finally, my last experience started with me ordering the same
> rebuild
> >> kit
> >> I had previously used, using the same number off of the previous
> >> invoice.
> >> What I received from them was the rebuild kit for the current
> unit
> >> which
> >> uses an entirely different set of all rings. I ultimately
> determined
> >> that
> >> for all three generations of their hydraulic bearing McLeod has
> used
> >> exactly the same rebuild kit part number. They added no suffix
> such as
> >> a
> >> ? A or a ?B which to me seems indicative of a problem within the
> >> company.
> >> No, they no longer support a rebuild kit for the first two
> generations.
> >> While you have some experience in using one of these previously,
> the
> >> task
> >> of establishing proper free play and clearances is quite exacting
> and
> >> unforgiving. If you get it wrong there is nothing left to do but
> pull
> >> the
> >> transaxle and start all over again.
> >> The unit I have is now adjusted for the factory shortcomings and
> as has
> >> been my experience for over 50,000 miles, the system works just
> fine.
> >> Dennis however no longer recommends their installation and based
> on my
> >> experience I would not encourage any other owners to venture down
> that
> >> road for themselves.
> >> Feel free to reach out to me off-line or by phone for more of the
> gory
> >> details.
> >> Larry
> >> Sent from me using a magic, handheld electronic gizmo.
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> >> Message: 14
> >> Date: Fri, 16 Sep 2016 15:50:41 -0500
> >> From: Cullen McCann
> >> <cmccann1972 at gmail.com<mailto:cmccann1972 at gmail.com>>
> >> To: Will Kooiman
> >> <will.kooiman at gmail.com<mailto:will.kooiman at gmail.com>>
> >> Cc: Email List Address For Posting
> >>
> <detomaso at server.detomasolist.com<mailto:detomaso at server.detomasolist.c
> >> om>>,
> >> Larry Finch
> >> <fresnofinches at aol.com<mailto:fresnofinches at aol.com>>
> >> Subject: Re: [DeTomaso] McLeod hydraulic throw out
> >> Message-ID:
> >>
> >>
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> >>
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> >> Thank you Larry. You answered my question perfectly. I am like
> Will, I
> >> have
> >> one on my Cobra as well, with a ford Top Loader and its been
> there for
> >> several years and Ive always loved it. I actually bought one that
> was
> >> "new"
> >> but several generations old, and when I called McLeod to inquire
> about
> >> fresh O-rings, they sent me a brand new unit just to "ensure a
> positive
> >> experience". I installed it with a performance clutch and a
> >> scattershield,
> >> bled it according to the instructions and that was about 4 years
> ago.
> >> Havent had a lick of trouble. (knocking on wood now).
> >> the frame rails on my cobra are 24" apart and I couldn't fit the
> clutch
> >> fork between the side of the bellhousing and the frame rail, and
> ive
> >> had a
> >> bad experience with performance clutches and cables breaking in
> the
> >> past...so I went the hydraulic route and have loved it.
> >> however... I will certainly consider carefully this drama as I
> set up
> >> my P
> >> car. I have a plan B with an external slave also, if I choose not
> to
> >> use
> >> the factory unit. Thank you sir.
> >> Cullen
> >> On Fri, Sep 16, 2016 at 3:26 PM, Will Kooiman
> >> <will.kooiman at gmail.com<mailto:will.kooiman at gmail.com>>
> >> wrote:
> >> Wow.
> >> I have one in my Cobra, and so far it has worked perfectly.
> >> My Cobra came with an external slave from a Volvo that was
> readily
> >> available 20 years ago, but is now unobtanium. Rather than
> building a
> >> new
> >> bracket for a different slave, I switched to a McLeod slave.
> >> At any rate, as I said, it has worked perfectly - so far.
> >> --
> >> Will
> >> On 9/16/16 3:35 PM, "Larry Finch via DeTomaso"
> >>
> <detomaso at server.detomasolist.com<mailto:detomaso at server.detomasolist.c
> >> om>> wrote:
> >> Cullen,
> >> 2511 came equipped with one of those from Dennis when I purchased
> it in
> >> 2002. Since then I have rebuilt the unit twice (three?) and most
> >> recently
> >> did so using what I believe to be their current offering. I spoke
> with
> >> and ordered directly from McLeod.
> >> My opinion, in brief, is a very simple "NO!!"
> >> The current offering was shipped to me with an incorrect input
> snout
> >> spacer (I solved that by using the old spacer which luckily I
> still had
> >> on hand), and the stainless steel input line, due to its 90?
> fitting
> >> where one should have used a 45? fitting, twisted itself, unseen
> of
> >> course, within the bell housing when it was connected to the hard
> line
> >> attached to the chassis rails. Even stainless steel lines don't
> hold up
> >> very long against grinding by a pressure plate.
> >> The stainless steel bleed line is about 4 inches too long,
> sticking
> >> outside the bell housing in a terrible display of ugly.
> >> Finally, my last experience started with me ordering the same
> rebuild
> >> kit
> >> I had previously used, using the same number off of the previous
> >> invoice.
> >> What I received from them was the rebuild kit for the current
> unit
> >> which
> >> uses an entirely different set of all rings. I ultimately
> determined
> >> that
> >> for all three generations of their hydraulic bearing McLeod has
> used
> >> exactly the same rebuild kit part number. They added no suffix
> such as
> >> a
> >> ? A or a ?B which to me seems indicative of a problem within the
> >> company.
> >> No, they no longer support a rebuild kit for the first two
> generations.
> >> While you have some experience in using one of these previously,
> the
> >> task
> >> of establishing proper free play and clearances is quite exacting
> and
> >> unforgiving. If you get it wrong there is nothing left to do but
> pull
> >> the
> >> transaxle and start all over again.
> >> The unit I have is now adjusted for the factory shortcomings and
> as has
> >> been my experience for over 50,000 miles, the system works just
> fine.
> >> Dennis however no longer recommends their installation and based
> on my
> >> experience I would not encourage any other owners to venture down
> that
> >> road for themselves.
> >> Feel free to reach out to me off-line or by phone for more of the
> gory
> >> details.
> >> Larry
> >> Sent from me using a magic, handheld electronic gizmo.
> >> _______________________________________________
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> >> Thank you Larry. You answered my question perfectly. I am
> like
> >> Will, I
> >> have one on my Cobra as well, with a ford Top Loader and its
> been
> >> there
> >> for several years and Ive always loved it. I actually bought
> one
> >> that
> >> was "new" but several generations old, and when I called
> McLeod to
> >> inquire about fresh O-rings, they sent me a brand new unit
> just to
> >> "ensure a positive experience". I installed it with a
> performance
> >> clutch and a scattershield, bled it according to the
> instructions
> >> and
> >> that was about 4 years ago. Havent had a lick of trouble.A
> >> (knocking
> >> on wood now).
> >> the frame rails on my cobra are 24" apart and I couldn't fit
> the
> >> clutch
> >> fork between the side of the bellhousing and the frame rail,
> and
> >> ive
> >> had a bad experience with performance clutches and cables
> breaking
> >> in
> >> the past...so I went the hydraulic route and have loved it.
> >> however... I will certainly consider carefully this drama as
> I set
> >> up
> >> my P car. I have a plan B with an external slave also, if I
> choose
> >> not
> >> to use the factory unit.A Thank you sir.
> >> Cullen
> >> On Fri, Sep 16, 2016 at 3:26 PM, Will Kooiman
> >> <[1]will.kooiman at gmail.com<mailto:will.kooiman at gmail.com>>
> wrote:
> >> Wow.
> >> I have one in my Cobra, and so far it has worked
> perfectly.
> >> My Cobra came with an external slave from a Volvo that was
> >> readily
> >> available 20 years ago, but is now unobtanium.A Rather
> than
> >> building a new
> >> bracket for a different slave, I switched to a McLeod
> slave.
> >> At any rate, as I said, it has worked perfectly - so far.
> >> --
> >> Will
> >> On 9/16/16 3:35 PM, "Larry Finch via DeTomaso"
> >>
> >>
> <[2]detomaso at server.detomasolist.com<mailto:detomaso at server.detomasolis
> >> t.com>> wrote:
> >>> Cullen,
> >>>
> >>> 2511 came equipped with one of those from Dennis when I purchased
> >> it
> >> in
> >>> 2002. Since then I have rebuilt the unit twice (three?) and most
> >> recently
> >>> did so using what I believe to be their current offering. I spoke
> >> with
> >>> and ordered directly from McLeod.
> >>>
> >>> My opinion, in brief, is a very simple "NO!!"
> >>>
> >>> The current offering was shipped to me with an incorrect input
> >> snout
> >>> spacer (I solved that by using the old spacer which luckily I
> >> still
> >> had
> >>> on hand), and the stainless steel input line, due to its 90ADEG
> >> fitting
> >>> where one should have used a 45ADEG fitting, twisted itself,
> >> unseen of
> >>> course, within the bell housing when it was connected to the hard
> >> line
> >>> attached to the chassis rails. Even stainless steel lines don't
> >> hold
> >> up
> >>> very long against grinding by a pressure plate.
> >>>
> >>> The stainless steel bleed line is about 4 inches too long,
> >> sticking
> >>> outside the bell housing in a terrible display of ugly.
> >>>
> >>> Finally, my last experience started with me ordering the same
> >> rebuild
> >> kit
> >>> I had previously used, using the same number off of the previous
> >> invoice.
> >>> What I received from them was the rebuild kit for the current
> >> unit
> >> which
> >>> uses an entirely different set of all rings. I ultimately
> >> determined
> >> that
> >>> for all three generations of their hydraulic bearing McLeod has
> >> used
> >>> exactly the same rebuild kit part number. They added no suffix
> >> such as
> >> a
> >>> A A or a AB which to me seems indicative of a problem within the
> >> company.
> >>> No, they no longer support a rebuild kit for the first two
> >> generations.
> >>>
> >>> While you have some experience in using one of these previously,
> >> the
> >> task
> >>> of establishing proper free play and clearances is quite exacting
> >> and
> >>> unforgiving. If you get it wrong there is nothing left to do but
> >> pull
> >> the
> >>> transaxle and start all over again.
> >>>
> >>> The unit I have is now adjusted for the factory shortcomings and
> >> as
> >> has
> >>> been my experience for over 50,000 miles, the system works just
> >> fine.
> >>> Dennis however no longer recommends their installation and based
> >> on my
> >>> experience I would not encourage any other owners to venture down
> >> that
> >>> road for themselves.
> >>>
> >>> Feel free to reach out to me off-line or by phone for more of the
> >> gory
> >>> details.
> >>>
> >>> Larry
> >>>
> >>> Sent from me using a magic, handheld electronic gizmo.
> >>> _______________________________________________
> >>>
> >>>
> >>> Detomaso Email List is not managed by POCA
> >>> Posted emails must not exceed 1.5 Megabytes
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> >>>
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> >> t.com>
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> >> 1. [87]mailto:will.kooiman at gmail.com
> >> 2. [88]mailto:detomaso at server.detomasolist.com
> >> 3. [89]mailto:DeTomaso at server.detomasolist.com
> >> 4.
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> >> ------------------------------
> >> Message: 15
> >> Date: Fri, 16 Sep 2016 13:53:15 -0700
> >> From: Larry Stock
> >> <larrys at panteraparts.com<mailto:larrys at panteraparts.com>>
> >> To: Will Kooiman
> >> <will.kooiman at gmail.com<mailto:will.kooiman at gmail.com>>, Larry
> Finch
> >> <fresnofinches at aol.com<mailto:fresnofinches at aol.com>>,
> Email
> >> List Address For Posting
> >>
> >>
> <detomaso at server.detomasolist.com<mailto:detomaso at server.detomasolist.c
> >> om>>
> >> Subject: Re: [DeTomaso] McLeod hydraulic throw out
> >> Message-ID:
> >>
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> >> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="EUC-KR"
> >> The basic problem is that the bell housing is too confined and
> not
> >> ventilated well enough to dissipate the heat. The Superformance
> is
> >> using a
> >> Quick Time bell housing that has much more ventilation than the
> >> DeTomaso
> >> Bell housing. Just another reason not to run those Plugs that
> some
> >> vendors
> >> offer, that close off the inspection hole at the left hand top of
> the
> >> bell
> >> housing. That is the only heat dissipation vent there is.
> >> Larry
> >> On 9/16/16, 1:26 PM, "DeTomaso on behalf of Will Kooiman"
> >>
> <detomaso-bounces at server.detomasolist.com<mailto:detomaso-bounces at serve
> >> r.detomasolist.com> on behalf of
> >> will.kooiman at gmail.com<mailto:will.kooiman at gmail.com>> wrote:
> >> Wow.
> >> I have one in my Cobra, and so far it has worked perfectly.
> >> My Cobra came with an external slave from a Volvo that was
> readily
> >> available 20 years ago, but is now unobtanium. Rather than
> building a
> >> new
> >> bracket for a different slave, I switched to a McLeod slave.
> >> At any rate, as I said, it has worked perfectly - so far.
> >> --
> >> Will
> >> On 9/16/16 3:35 PM, "Larry Finch via DeTomaso"
> >>
> <detomaso at server.detomasolist.com<mailto:detomaso at server.detomasolist.c
> >> om>> wrote:
> >> Cullen,
> >> 2511 came equipped with one of those from Dennis when I purchased
> it in
> >> 2002. Since then I have rebuilt the unit twice (three?) and most
> >> recently
> >> did so using what I believe to be their current offering. I spoke
> with
> >> and ordered directly from McLeod.
> >> My opinion, in brief, is a very simple "NO!!"
> >> The current offering was shipped to me with an incorrect input
> snout
> >> spacer (I solved that by using the old spacer which luckily I
> still had
> >> on hand), and the stainless steel input line, due to its 90?
> fitting
> >> where one should have used a 45? fitting, twisted itself, unseen
> of
> >> course, within the bell housing when it was connected to the hard
> line
> >> attached to the chassis rails. Even stainless steel lines don't
> hold up
> >> very long against grinding by a pressure plate.
> >> The stainless steel bleed line is about 4 inches too long,
> sticking
> >> outside the bell housing in a terrible display of ugly.
> >> Finally, my last experience started with me ordering the same
> rebuild
> >> kit
> >> I had previously used, using the same number off of the previous
> >> invoice.
> >> What I received from them was the rebuild kit for the current
> unit
> >> which
> >> uses an entirely different set of all rings. I ultimately
> determined
> >> that
> >> for all three generations of their hydraulic bearing McLeod has
> used
> >> exactly the same rebuild kit part number. They added no suffix
> such as
> >> a
> >> ? A or a ?B which to me seems indicative of a problem within the
> >> company.
> >> No, they no longer support a rebuild kit for the first two
> generations.
> >> While you have some experience in using one of these previously,
> the
> >> task
> >> of establishing proper free play and clearances is quite exacting
> and
> >> unforgiving. If you get it wrong there is nothing left to do but
> pull
> >> the
> >> transaxle and start all over again.
> >> The unit I have is now adjusted for the factory shortcomings and
> as has
> >> been my experience for over 50,000 miles, the system works just
> fine.
> >> Dennis however no longer recommends their installation and based
> on my
> >> experience I would not encourage any other owners to venture down
> that
> >> road for themselves.
> >> Feel free to reach out to me off-line or by phone for more of the
> gory
> >> details.
> >> Larry
> >> Sent from me using a magic, handheld electronic gizmo.
> >> _______________________________________________
> >> Detomaso Email List is not managed by POCA
> >> Posted emails must not exceed 1.5 Megabytes
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> >> Message: 16
> >> Date: Fri, 16 Sep 2016 14:11:22 -0700
> >> From: Mike Drew <MikeLDrew at aol.com<mailto:MikeLDrew at aol.com>>
> >> To: David Nunn <dnunn at telus.net<mailto:dnunn at telus.net>>
> >> Cc:
> >>
> "<detomaso at server.detomasolist.com<mailto:detomaso at server.detomasolist.
> >> com>>"
> >>
> >>
> <detomaso at server.detomasolist.com<mailto:detomaso at server.detomasolist.c
> >> om>>
> >> Subject: Re: [DeTomaso] Sanden Compressors noises
> >> Message-ID:
> >>
> <C4C5C3CB-D201-4825-A845-85208C7B8B62 at aol.com<mailto:C4C5C3CB-D201-4825
> >> -A845-85208C7B8B62 at aol.com>>
> >> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"
> >> All,
> >> Here is a photo of the IPSCO water pump idler pulley setup. Note
> there
> >> is no alternator in view, as this car is fitted with a flat
> firewall
> >> kit that moves the alternator outboard of the A/C system.
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> >> Mike
> >> Sent from my iPhone
> >> On Sep 15, 2016, at 15:41, "David Nunn"
> >> <dnunn at telus.net<mailto:dnunn at telus.net>> wrote:
> >> Rob,
> >> If I'm not mistaken, IPSCO sells a kit that modifies Kirk's
> kit. It
> >> eliminates the "fitted", non-adjustable belt and makes it
> >> adjustable.
> >> It sure makes installation a lot easier. It's not listed on
> IPSCO's
> >> web
> >> site so you have to call or e-mail to get details.
> >> Also, IPSCO has an idler pulley kit that makes installation
> and
> >> belt
> >> tensioning a breeze.
> >> [1]http://www.ipsco.org/Pantera%20Parts/Idler%20Pulley.htm
> >> References
> >> 1.
> [96]http://www.ipsco.org/Pantera%20Parts/Idler%20Pulley.htm
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> >> Message: 17
> >> Date: Fri, 16 Sep 2016 21:16:34 +0000
> >> From: Julian Kift
> >> <julian_kift at hotmail.com<mailto:julian_kift at hotmail.com>>
> >> To: David Nunn <dnunn at telus.net<mailto:dnunn at telus.net>>, Mike
> Drew
> >> <MikeLDrew at aol.com<mailto:MikeLDrew at aol.com>>,
> >>
> >>
> "detomaso at server.detomasolist.com<mailto:detomaso at server.detomasolist.c
> >> om>"
> >>
> <detomaso at server.detomasolist.com<mailto:detomaso at server.detomasolist.c
> >> om>>
> >> Subject: Re: [DeTomaso] Sanden Compressors noises
> >> Message-ID:
> >>
> >>
> <CY4PR18MB12865ADBFE3EEDECFFB644A895F30 at CY4PR18MB1286.namprd18.prod.out
> >>
> look.com<mailto:CY4PR18MB12865ADBFE3EEDECFFB644A895F30 at CY4PR18MB1286.na
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> >> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1"
> >> Mike,
> >> It gets even better, that looks to be a different idler again,
> the one
> >> that was previously linked appears to go in the stock location,
> but was
> >> adjustable from the front negating the usual need to get a wrench
> on
> >> the rear.
> >> Julian
> >> ________________________________
> >> From: DeTomaso
> >>
> <detomaso-bounces at server.detomasolist.com<mailto:detomaso-bounces at serve
> >> r.detomasolist.com>> on behalf of Mike Drew via DeTomaso
> >>
> <detomaso at server.detomasolist.com<mailto:detomaso at server.detomasolist.c
> >> om>>
> >> Sent: Friday, September 16, 2016 2:11 PM
> >> To: David Nunn
> >> Cc:
> >>
> <detomaso at server.detomasolist.com<mailto:detomaso at server.detomasolist.c
> >> om>>
> >> Subject: Re: [DeTomaso] Sanden Compressors noises
> >> All,
> >> Here is a photo of the IPSCO water pump idler pulley setup. Note
> there
> >> is no alternator in view, as this car is fitted with a flat
> firewall
> >> kit that moves the alternator outboard of the A/C system.
> >>
> [cid:da0fdac9-8741-4e03-b676-ebaa4760fb6f at namprd18.prod.outlook.com<mai
> >>
> lto:da0fdac9-8741-4e03-b676-ebaa4760fb6f at namprd18.prod.outlook.com>]
> >> Mike
> >> Sent from my iPhone
> >> On Sep 15, 2016, at 15:41, "David Nunn"
> >> <dnunn at telus.net<mailto:dnunn at telus.net>> wrote:
> >> Rob,
> >> If I'm not mistaken, IPSCO sells a kit that modifies Kirk's
> kit. It
> >> eliminates the "fitted", non-adjustable belt and makes it
> >> adjustable.
> >> It sure makes installation a lot easier. It's not listed on
> IPSCO's
> >> web
> >> site so you have to call or e-mail to get details.
> >> Also, IPSCO has an idler pulley kit that makes installation
> and
> >> belt
> >> tensioning a breeze.
> >> [1]http://www.ipsco.org/Pantera%20Parts/Idler%20Pulley.htm
> >> References
> >> 1.
> [98]http://www.ipsco.org/Pantera%20Parts/Idler%20Pulley.htm
> >>
> [[99]http://www.ipsco.org/Pantera%20Parts/Idler%20Pulley.jpg]<http://ww
> >> w.ipsco.org/Pantera%20Parts/Idler%20Pulley.htm>
> >> Idler Pulley - IPSCO, Pantera, Viper, Mechanical Parking
> >> ...<[100]http://www.ipsco.org/Pantera%20Parts/Idler%20Pulley.htm>
> >> www.ipsco.org<[101]http://www.ipsco.org>
> >> Pantera Idler Pulley Assembly . Replacement for factory Idler
> Pulley,
> >> this assembly allow adjustment without trying to hold a wrench
> behind
> >> the bracket to tighten in ...
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> >> Mike,
> >> It gets even better, that looks to be a different idler
> again, the
> >> one
> >> that was previously linked appears to go in the stock
> location,
> >> but was
> >> adjustable from the front negating the usual need to get a
> wrench
> >> on
> >> the rear.
> >> Julian
> >>
> >>
> __________________________________________________________________
> >> From: DeTomaso
> >>
> <detomaso-bounces at server.detomasolist.com<mailto:detomaso-bounces at serve
> >> r.detomasolist.com>> on behalf of
> >> Mike Drew via DeTomaso
> >>
> <detomaso at server.detomasolist.com<mailto:detomaso at server.detomasolist.c
> >> om>>
> >> Sent: Friday, September 16, 2016 2:11 PM
> >> To: David Nunn
> >> Cc:
> >>
> <detomaso at server.detomasolist.com<mailto:detomaso at server.detomasolist.c
> >> om>>
> >> Subject: Re: [DeTomaso] Sanden Compressors noises
> >> All,
> >> Here is a photo of the IPSCO water pump idler pulley setup.
> Note
> >> there
> >> is no alternator in view, as this car is fitted with a flat
> >> firewall
> >> kit that moves the alternator outboard of the A/C system.
> >>
> >>
> [cid:da0fdac9-8741-4e03-b676-ebaa4760fb6f at namprd18.prod.outlook.com<mai
> >>
> lto:da0fdac9-8741-4e03-b676-ebaa4760fb6f at namprd18.prod.outlook.com>]
> >> Mike
> >> Sent from my iPhone
> >> On Sep 15, 2016, at 15:41, "David Nunn"
> >> <dnunn at telus.net<mailto:dnunn at telus.net>> wrote:
> >>> Rob,
> >>>
> >>> If I'm not mistaken, IPSCO sells a kit that modifies Kirk's
> >> kit. It
> >>> eliminates the "fitted", non-adjustable belt and makes it
> >> adjustable.
> >>> It sure makes installation a lot easier. It's not listed on
> >> IPSCO's
> >> web
> >>> site so you have to call or e-mail to get details.
> >>>
> >>> Also, IPSCO has an idler pulley kit that makes installation
> >> and
> >> belt
> >>> tensioning a breeze.
> >>>
> >>> [1]http://www.ipsco.org/Pantera%20Parts/Idler%20Pulley.htm
> >>>
> >>> References
> >>>
> >>> 1. [1]http://www.ipsco.org/Pantera%20Parts/Idler%20Pulley.htm
> >> [2][Idler%20Pulley.jpg]
> >> [3]Idler Pulley - IPSCO, Pantera, Viper, Mechanical Parking
> ...
> >> www.ipsco.org<[104]http://www.ipsco.org>
> >> Pantera Idler Pulley Assembly . Replacement for factory
> Idler
> >> Pulley,
> >> this assembly allow adjustment without trying to hold a
> wrench
> >> behind
> >> the bracket to tighten in ...
> >>> _______________________________________________
> >>>
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> >> References
> >> 1.
> [105]http://www.ipsco.org/Pantera%20Parts/Idler%20Pulley.htm
> >> 2.
> [106]http://www.ipsco.org/Pantera%20Parts/Idler%20Pulley.htm
> >> 3.
> [107]http://www.ipsco.org/Pantera%20Parts/Idler%20Pulley.htm
> >> 4.
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> >> ------------------------------
> >> Message: 18
> >> Date: Fri, 16 Sep 2016 14:18:39 -0700
> >> From: Mike Drew <MikeLDrew at aol.com<mailto:MikeLDrew at aol.com>>
> >> To: Julian Kift
> >> <julian_kift at hotmail.com<mailto:julian_kift at hotmail.com>>
> >> Cc: David Nunn <dnunn at telus.net<mailto:dnunn at telus.net>>,
> >>
> "detomaso at server.detomasolist.com<mailto:detomaso at server.detomasolist.c
> >> om>"
> >>
> >>
> <detomaso at server.detomasolist.com<mailto:detomaso at server.detomasolist.c
> >> om>>
> >> Subject: Re: [DeTomaso] Sanden Compressors noises
> >> Message-ID:
> >>
> <7B7EDC5D-6016-45F7-B580-31A839921366 at aol.com<mailto:7B7EDC5D-6016-45F7
> >> -B580-31A839921366 at aol.com>>
> >> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii
> >> Julian,
> >> Yes, he mentioned two different products for different
> applications but
> >> only had a link for the stock replacement idler. My photo shows
> the
> >> idler that replaces the alternator to tension the water pump
> belt.
> >> Mike
> >> Sent from my iPhone
> >> On Sep 16, 2016, at 14:16, Julian Kift
> >> <julian_kift at hotmail.com<mailto:julian_kift at hotmail.com>> wrote:
> >> Mike,
> >> It gets even better, that looks to be a different idler
> again, the
> >> one
> >> that was previously linked appears to go in the stock
> location, but
> >> was
> >> adjustable from the front negating the usual need to get a
> wrench
> >> on
> >> the rear.
> >> Julian
> >>
> >>
> __________________________________________________________________
> >> From: DeTomaso
> >>
> <detomaso-bounces at server.detomasolist.com<mailto:detomaso-bounces at serve
> >> r.detomasolist.com>> on behalf of
> >> Mike Drew via DeTomaso
> >>
> <detomaso at server.detomasolist.com<mailto:detomaso at server.detomasolist.c
> >> om>>
> >> Sent: Friday, September 16, 2016 2:11 PM
> >> To: David Nunn
> >> Cc:
> >>
> <detomaso at server.detomasolist.com<mailto:detomaso at server.detomasolist.c
> >> om>>
> >> Subject: Re: [DeTomaso] Sanden Compressors noises
> >> All,
> >> Here is a photo of the IPSCO water pump idler pulley setup.
> Note
> >> there
> >> is no alternator in view, as this car is fitted with a flat
> >> firewall
> >> kit that moves the alternator outboard of the A/C system.
> >>
> >>
> [cid:da0fdac9-8741-4e03-b676-ebaa4760fb6f at namprd18.prod.outlook.com<mai
> >>
> lto:da0fdac9-8741-4e03-b676-ebaa4760fb6f at namprd18.prod.outlook.com>]
> >> Mike
> >> Sent from my iPhone
> >> On Sep 15, 2016, at 15:41, "David Nunn"
> >> <dnunn at telus.net<mailto:dnunn at telus.net>> wrote:
> >> Rob,
> >> If I'm not mistaken, IPSCO sells a kit that modifies Kirk's
> kit. It
> >> eliminates the "fitted", non-adjustable belt and makes it
> >> adjustable.
> >> It sure makes installation a lot easier. It's not listed on
> IPSCO's
> >> web
> >> site so you have to call or e-mail to get details.
> >> Also, IPSCO has an idler pulley kit that makes installation
> and
> >> belt
> >> tensioning a breeze.
> >> [1]http://www.ipsco.org/Pantera%20Parts/Idler%20Pulley.htm
> >> References
> >> 1. [1]http://www.ipsco.org/Pantera%20Parts/Idler%20Pulley.htm
> >> [2][Idler%20Pulley.jpg]
> >> [3]Idler Pulley - IPSCO, Pantera, Viper, Mechanical Parking
> ...
> >> www.ipsco.org<[111]http://www.ipsco.org>
> >> Pantera Idler Pulley Assembly . Replacement for factory Idler
> >> Pulley,
> >> this assembly allow adjustment without trying to hold a
> wrench
> >> behind
> >> the bracket to tighten in ...
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> >> References
> >> 1.
> [112]http://www.ipsco.org/Pantera%20Parts/Idler%20Pulley.htm
> >> 2.
> [113]http://www.ipsco.org/Pantera%20Parts/Idler%20Pulley.htm
> >> 3.
> [114]http://www.ipsco.org/Pantera%20Parts/Idler%20Pulley.htm
> >> 4.
> [115]http://server.detomasolist.com/mailman/listinfo/detomaso
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> >> ------------------------------
> >> Message: 19
> >> Date: Fri, 16 Sep 2016 14:19:14 -0700
> >> From: Larry Finch
> <fresnofinches at aol.com<mailto:fresnofinches at aol.com>>
> >> To: Email List Address For Posting
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> <detomaso at server.detomasolist.com<mailto:detomaso at server.detomasolist.c
> >> om>>
> >> Subject: Re: [DeTomaso] McLeod hydraulic throw out
> >> Message-ID:
> >>
> <78A89D59-A850-402B-8862-ABC7DFF75CD9 at aol.com<mailto:78A89D59-A850-402B
> >> -8862-ABC7DFF75CD9 at aol.com>>
> >> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8
> >> Heat?
> >> As I previously wrote, I have over 50,000 miles using one of the
> McLeod
> >> systems.
> >> Those 50,000 miles have all been WITH a black plastic plug in the
> hole
> >> that some wish to call a ventilation hole rather than an
> inspection
> >> hole. Your choice, I don't really care.
> >> Whatever heat issues may or may not be present, with or without a
> plug,
> >> have never appeared to be an issue in any way, shape or form in
> my many
> >> years of experience.
> >> I am all ears if Larry or anyone else has history that supports a
> >> failure of the McLeod unit from excessive heat.
> >> Larry
> >> Sent from me using a magic, handheld electronic gizmo.
> >> On Sep 16, 2016, at 1:53 PM, Larry Stock
> >> <larrys at panteraparts.com<mailto:larrys at panteraparts.com>> wrote:
> >> The basic problem is that the bell housing is too confined and
> not
> >> ventilated well enough to dissipate the heat. The Superformance
> is
> >> using a
> >> Quick Time bell housing that has much more ventilation than the
> >> DeTomaso
> >> Bell housing. Just another reason not to run those Plugs that
> some
> >> vendors
> >> offer, that close off the inspection hole at the left hand top of
> the
> >> bell
> >> housing. That is the only heat dissipation vent there is.
> >> Larry
> >> On 9/16/16, 1:26 PM, "DeTomaso on behalf of Will Kooiman"
> >>
> <detomaso-bounces at server.detomasolist.com<mailto:detomaso-bounces at serve
> >> r.detomasolist.com> on behalf of
> >> will.kooiman at gmail.com<mailto:will.kooiman at gmail.com>> wrote:
> >> Wow.
> >> I have one in my Cobra, and so far it has worked perfectly.
> >> My Cobra came with an external slave from a Volvo that was
> readily
> >> available 20 years ago, but is now unobtanium. Rather than
> building a
> >> new
> >> bracket for a different slave, I switched to a McLeod slave.
> >> At any rate, as I said, it has worked perfectly - so far.
> >> --
> >> Will
> >> On 9/16/16 3:35 PM, "Larry Finch via DeTomaso"
> >>
> <detomaso at server.detomasolist.com<mailto:detomaso at server.detomasolist.c
> >> om>> wrote:
> >> Cullen,
> >> 2511 came equipped with one of those from Dennis when I purchased
> it in
> >> 2002. Since then I have rebuilt the unit twice (three?) and most
> >> recently
> >> did so using what I believe to be their current offering. I spoke
> with
> >> and ordered directly from McLeod.
> >> My opinion, in brief, is a very simple "NO!!"
> >> The current offering was shipped to me with an incorrect input
> snout
> >> spacer (I solved that by using the old spacer which luckily I
> still had
> >> on hand), and the stainless steel input line, due to its 90?
> fitting
> >> where one should have used a 45? fitting, twisted itself, unseen
> of
> >> course, within the bell housing when it was connected to the hard
> line
> >> attached to the chassis rails. Even stainless steel lines don't
> hold up
> >> very long against grinding by a pressure plate.
> >> The stainless steel bleed line is about 4 inches too long,
> sticking
> >> outside the bell housing in a terrible display of ugly.
> >> Finally, my last experience started with me ordering the same
> rebuild
> >> kit
> >> I had previously used, using the same number off of the previous
> >> invoice.
> >> What I received from them was the rebuild kit for the current
> unit
> >> which
> >> uses an entirely different set of all rings. I ultimately
> determined
> >> that
> >> for all three generations of their hydraulic bearing McLeod has
> used
> >> exactly the same rebuild kit part number. They added no suffix
> such as
> >> a
> >> A or a ?B which to me seems indicative of a problem within the
> company.
> >> No, they no longer support a rebuild kit for the first two
> generations.
> >> While you have some experience in using one of these previously,
> the
> >> task
> >> of establishing proper free play and clearances is quite exacting
> and
> >> unforgiving. If you get it wrong there is nothing left to do but
> pull
> >> the
> >> transaxle and start all over again.
> >> The unit I have is now adjusted for the factory shortcomings and
> as has
> >> been my experience for over 50,000 miles, the system works just
> fine.
> >> Dennis however no longer recommends their installation and based
> on my
> >> experience I would not encourage any other owners to venture down
> that
> >> road for themselves.
> >> Feel free to reach out to me off-line or by phone for more of the
> gory
> >> details.
> >> Larry
> >> Sent from me using a magic, handheld electronic gizmo.
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> >> Message: 20
> >> Date: Fri, 16 Sep 2016 16:38:06 -0500
> >> From: Cullen McCann
> >> <cmccann1972 at gmail.com<mailto:cmccann1972 at gmail.com>>
> >> To: Larry Stock
> >> <larrys at panteraparts.com<mailto:larrys at panteraparts.com>>
> >> Cc: Email List Address For Posting
> >>
> <detomaso at server.detomasolist.com<mailto:detomaso at server.detomasolist.c
> >> om>>,
> >> Larry Finch
> >> <fresnofinches at aol.com<mailto:fresnofinches at aol.com>>
> >> Subject: Re: [DeTomaso] McLeod hydraulic throw out
> >> Message-ID:
> >>
> >>
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> >>
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> >> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8"
> >> well, I have the quicktime bellhousing for the ZF on 4653. I
> forgot to
> >> mention that. Also didn't consider it would be relevant. hmmmm.
> >> On Fri, Sep 16, 2016 at 3:53 PM, Larry Stock
> >> <larrys at panteraparts.com<mailto:larrys at panteraparts.com>>
> >> wrote:
> >> The basic problem is that the bell housing is too confined and
> not
> >> ventilated well enough to dissipate the heat. The Superformance
> is
> >> using a
> >> Quick Time bell housing that has much more ventilation than the
> >> DeTomaso
> >> Bell housing. Just another reason not to run those Plugs that
> some
> >> vendors
> >> offer, that close off the inspection hole at the left hand top of
> the
> >> bell
> >> housing. That is the only heat dissipation vent there is.
> >> Larry
> >> On 9/16/16, 1:26 PM, "DeTomaso on behalf of Will Kooiman"
> >>
> <detomaso-bounces at server.detomasolist.com<mailto:detomaso-bounces at serve
> >> r.detomasolist.com> on behalf of
> >> will.kooiman at gmail.com<mailto:will.kooiman at gmail.com>> wrote:
> >> Wow.
> >> I have one in my Cobra, and so far it has worked perfectly.
> >> My Cobra came with an external slave from a Volvo that was
> readily
> >> available 20 years ago, but is now unobtanium. Rather than
> building a
> >> new
> >> bracket for a different slave, I switched to a McLeod slave.
> >> At any rate, as I said, it has worked perfectly - so far.
> >> --
> >> Will
> >> On 9/16/16 3:35 PM, "Larry Finch via DeTomaso"
> >>
> <detomaso at server.detomasolist.com<mailto:detomaso at server.detomasolist.c
> >> om>> wrote:
> >> Cullen,
> >> 2511 came equipped with one of those from Dennis when I purchased
> it in
> >> 2002. Since then I have rebuilt the unit twice (three?) and most
> >> recently
> >> did so using what I believe to be their current offering. I spoke
> with
> >> and ordered directly from McLeod.
> >> My opinion, in brief, is a very simple "NO!!"
> >> The current offering was shipped to me with an incorrect input
> snout
> >> spacer (I solved that by using the old spacer which luckily I
> still had
> >> on hand), and the stainless steel input line, due to its 90?
> fitting
> >> where one should have used a 45? fitting, twisted itself, unseen
> of
> >> course, within the bell housing when it was connected to the hard
> line
> >> attached to the chassis rails. Even stainless steel lines don't
> hold up
> >> very long against grinding by a pressure plate.
> >> The stainless steel bleed line is about 4 inches too long,
> sticking
> >> outside the bell housing in a terrible display of ugly.
> >> Finally, my last experience started with me ordering the same
> rebuild
> >> kit
> >> I had previously used, using the same number off of the previous
> >> invoice.
> >> What I received from them was the rebuild kit for the current
> unit
> >> which
> >> uses an entirely different set of all rings. I ultimately
> determined
> >> that
> >> for all three generations of their hydraulic bearing McLeod has
> used
> >> exactly the same rebuild kit part number. They added no suffix
> such as
> >> a
> >> ? A or a ?B which to me seems indicative of a problem within the
> >> company.
> >> No, they no longer support a rebuild kit for the first two
> generations.
> >> While you have some experience in using one of these previously,
> the
> >> task
> >> of establishing proper free play and clearances is quite exacting
> and
> >> unforgiving. If you get it wrong there is nothing left to do but
> pull
> >> the
> >> transaxle and start all over again.
> >> The unit I have is now adjusted for the factory shortcomings and
> as has
> >> been my experience for over 50,000 miles, the system works just
> fine.
> >> Dennis however no longer recommends their installation and based
> on my
> >> experience I would not encourage any other owners to venture down
> that
> >> road for themselves.
> >> Feel free to reach out to me off-line or by phone for more of the
> gory
> >> details.
> >> Larry
> >> Sent from me using a magic, handheld electronic gizmo.
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> >> well, I have the quicktime bellhousing for the ZF on 4653. I
> >> forgot to
> >> mention that. Also didn't consider it would be relevant.
> hmmmm.
> >> On Fri, Sep 16, 2016 at 3:53 PM, Larry Stock
> >> <[1]larrys at panteraparts.com<mailto:larrys at panteraparts.com>>
> >> wrote:
> >> The basic problem is that the bell housing is too confined
> and
> >> not
> >> ventilated well enough to dissipate the heat. The
> Superformance
> >> is
> >> using a
> >> Quick Time bell housing that has much more ventilation
> than the
> >> DeTomaso
> >> Bell housing. Just another reason not to run those Plugs
> that
> >> some
> >> vendors
> >> offer, that close off the inspection hole at the left hand
> top
> >> of
> >> the bell
> >> housing. That is the only heat dissipation vent there is.
> >> Larry
> >> On 9/16/16, 1:26 PM, "DeTomaso on behalf of Will Kooiman"
> >>
> >>
> <[2]detomaso-bounces at server.detomasolist.com<mailto:detomaso-bounces at se
> >> rver.detomasolist.com> on behalf of
> >> [3]will.kooiman at gmail.com<mailto:will.kooiman at gmail.com>>
> wrote:
> >>> Wow.
> >>>
> >>> I have one in my Cobra, and so far it has worked perfectly.
> >>>
> >>> My Cobra came with an external slave from a Volvo that was
> >> readily
> >>> available 20 years ago, but is now unobtanium.A Rather than
> >> building a new
> >>> bracket for a different slave, I switched to a McLeod slave.
> >>>
> >>> At any rate, as I said, it has worked perfectly - so far.
> >>>
> >>> --
> >>> Will
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>
> >>> On 9/16/16 3:35 PM, "Larry Finch via DeTomaso"
> >>
> >>>
> <[4]detomaso at server.detomasolist.com<mailto:detomaso at server.detomasoli
> >> st.com>> wrote:
> >>>
> >>>> Cullen,
> >>>>
> >>>> 2511 came equipped with one of those from Dennis when I
> >> purchased
> >> it in
> >>>> 2002. Since then I have rebuilt the unit twice (three?) and
> >> most
> >> recently
> >>>> did so using what I believe to be their current offering. I
> >> spoke
> >> with
> >>>> and ordered directly from McLeod.
> >>>>
> >>>> My opinion, in brief, is a very simple "NO!!"
> >>>>
> >>>> The current offering was shipped to me with an incorrect input
> >> snout
> >>>> spacer (I solved that by using the old spacer which luckily I
> >> still had
> >>>> on hand), and the stainless steel input line, due to its
> >> 90ADEG
> >> fitting
> >>>> where one should have used a 45ADEG fitting, twisted itself,
> >> unseen of
> >>>> course, within the bell housing when it was connected to the
> >> hard
> >> line
> >>>> attached to the chassis rails. Even stainless steel lines
> >> don't
> >> hold up
> >>>> very long against grinding by a pressure plate.
> >>>>
> >>>> The stainless steel bleed line is about 4 inches too long,
> >> sticking
> >>>> outside the bell housing in a terrible display of ugly.
> >>>>
> >>>> Finally, my last experience started with me ordering the same
> >> rebuild kit
> >>>> I had previously used, using the same number off of the
> >> previous
> >> invoice.
> >>>> What I received from them was the rebuild kit for the current
> >> unit
> >> which
> >>>> uses an entirely different set of all rings. I ultimately
> >> determined that
> >>>> for all three generations of their hydraulic bearing McLeod
> >> has
> >> used
> >>>> exactly the same rebuild kit part number. They added no suffix
> >> such as a
> >>>> A A or a AB which to me seems indicative of a problem within
> >> the
> >> company.
> >>>> No, they no longer support a rebuild kit for the first two
> >> generations.
> >>>>
> >>>> While you have some experience in using one of these
> >> previously,
> >> the task
> >>>> of establishing proper free play and clearances is quite
> >> exacting
> >> and
> >>>> unforgiving. If you get it wrong there is nothing left to do
> >> but
> >> pull the
> >>>> transaxle and start all over again.
> >>>>
> >>>> The unit I have is now adjusted for the factory shortcomings
> >> and
> >> as has
> >>>> been my experience for over 50,000 miles, the system works
> >> just
> >> fine.
> >>>> Dennis however no longer recommends their installation and
> >> based
> >> on my
> >>>> experience I would not encourage any other owners to venture
> >> down
> >> that
> >>>> road for themselves.
> >>>>
> >>>> Feel free to reach out to me off-line or by phone for more of
> >> the
> >> gory
> >>>> details.
> >>>>
> >>>> Larry
> >>>>
> >>>> Sent from me using a magic, handheld electronic gizmo.
> >>>> _______________________________________________
> >>>>
> >>>>
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> >> References
> >> 1. [123]mailto:larrys at panteraparts.com
> >> 2. [124]mailto:detomaso-bounces at server.detomasolist.com
> >> 3. [125]mailto:will.kooiman at gmail.com
> >> 4. [126]mailto:detomaso at server.detomasolist.com
> >> 5. [127]mailto:DeTomaso at server.detomasolist.com
> >> 6.
> [128]http://server.detomasolist.com/mailman/listinfo/detomaso
> >> 7. [129]mailto:DeTomaso at server.detomasolist.com
> >> 8.
> [130]http://server.detomasolist.com/mailman/listinfo/detomaso
> >> 9. [131]mailto:DeTomaso at server.detomasolist.com
> >> 10.
> [132]http://server.detomasolist.com/mailman/listinfo/detomaso
> >> ------------------------------
> >> Message: 21
> >> Date: Fri, 16 Sep 2016 21:46:51 +0000
> >> From: michael frazier
> <red3644 at hotmail.com<mailto:red3644 at hotmail.com>>
> >> To:
> >>
> "detomaso at server.detomasolist.com<mailto:detomaso at server.detomasolist.c
> >> om>"
> >>
> >>
> <detomaso at server.detomasolist.com<mailto:detomaso at server.detomasolist.c
> >> om>>
> >> Subject: [DeTomaso] NPC, Need transmission suggestions
> >> Message-ID:
> >>
> >>
> <SN1PR07MB2254F82A006D414EA80223FCB9F30 at SN1PR07MB2254.namprd07.prod.out
> >>
> look.com<mailto:SN1PR07MB2254F82A006D414EA80223FCB9F30 at SN1PR07MB2254.na
> >> mprd07.prod.outlook.com>>
> >> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8"
> >> Hi All,
> >> I?m putting a 1951 Ford truck back on the road. It sat in a barn
> since
> >> 1961 and only has 25k miles,
> >> but those were farm miles and it is beat though not rusted out.
> >> Beautiful Rat Rod patina that will
> >> remain. The frame is boxed and cross braced, and holds a
> complete
> >> Jaguar XJ suspension front and back.
> >> I plan to run a spare Cleveland, actually a real Boss 351, and
> want an
> >> overdrive transmission. Manual or
> >> automatic, either one. It won?t be drag raced but will be used
> >> regularly and would likely be run in an
> >> open road race some time. That?s the reason for the overdrive.
> >> I?ve been out of this part of the game for a while and was
> wondering
> >> what would work well.
> >> What would bolt up and work. What would it come out of?
> >> Any info and ideas would be greatly appreciated.
> >> Michael
> >> Sent from
> Mail<[133]https://go.microsoft.com/fwlink/?LinkId=550986> for
> >> Windows 10
> >> -------------- next part --------------
> >> Hi All,
> >> I'm putting a 1951 Ford truck back on the road. It sat in a
> barn
> >> since
> >> 1961 and only has 25k miles,
> >> but those were farm miles and it is beat though not rusted
> out.
> >> Beautiful Rat Rod patina that will
> >> remain. The frame is boxed and cross braced, and holds a
> complete
> >> Jaguar XJ suspension front and back.
> >> I plan to run a spare Cleveland, actually a real Boss 351,
> and
> >> want an
> >> overdrive transmission. Manual or
> >> automatic, either one. It won't be drag raced but will be
> used
> >> regularly and would likely be run in an
> >> open road race some time. That's the reason for the
> overdrive.
> >> I've been out of this part of the game for a while and was
> >> wondering
> >> what would work well.
> >> What would bolt up and work. What would it come out of?
> >> Any info and ideas would be greatly appreciated.
> >> Michael
> >> Sent from [1]Mail for Windows 10
> >> References
> >> 1. [134]https://go.microsoft.com/fwlink/?LinkId=550986
> >> ------------------------------
> >> Message: 22
> >> Date: Fri, 16 Sep 2016 15:04:46 -0700
> >> From: "David Nunn" <dnunn at telus.net<mailto:dnunn at telus.net>>
> >> To: "'Mike Drew'" <MikeLDrew at aol.com<mailto:MikeLDrew at aol.com>>,
> >> "'Julian Kift'"
> >> <julian_kift at hotmail.com<mailto:julian_kift at hotmail.com>>
> >> Cc:
> >>
> detomaso at server.detomasolist.com<mailto:detomaso at server.detomasolist.co
> >> m>
> >> Subject: Re: [DeTomaso] Sanden Compressors noises
> >> Message-ID:
> >>
> <003301d21066$5739cc80$05ad6580$@telus.net<mailto:003301d21066$5739cc80
> >> $05ad6580$@telus.net>>
> >> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"
> >> Julian,
> >> Further to what Mike wrote; here's a photo of the front of my
> engine,
> >> with
> >> both IPSCO items installed.
> >> David
> >> -----Original Message-----
> >> From: Mike Drew [[135]mailto:MikeLDrew at aol.com]
> >> Sent: September 16, 2016 2:19 PM
> >> To: Julian Kift
> >> <julian_kift at hotmail.com<mailto:julian_kift at hotmail.com>>
> >> Cc: David Nunn <dnunn at telus.net<mailto:dnunn at telus.net>>;
> >>
> detomaso at server.detomasolist.com<mailto:detomaso at server.detomasolist.co
> >> m>
> >> Subject: Re: [DeTomaso] Sanden Compressors noises
> >> Julian,
> >> Yes, he mentioned two different products for different
> applications but
> >> only
> >> had a link for the stock replacement idler. My photo shows the
> idler
> >> that
> >> replaces the alternator to tension the water pump belt.
> >> Mike
> >> Sent from my iPhone
> >> On Sep 16, 2016, at 14:16, Julian Kift
> >> <julian_kift at hotmail.com<mailto:julian_kift at hotmail.com>> wrote:
> >> Mike,
> >> It gets even better, that looks to be a different idler
> again, the
> >> one
> >> that was previously linked appears to go in the stock
> location, but
> >> was
> >> adjustable from the front negating the usual need to get a
> wrench
> >> on
> >> the rear.
> >> Julian
> >>
> >>
> __________________________________________________________________
> >> From: DeTomaso
> >>
> <detomaso-bounces at server.detomasolist.com<mailto:detomaso-bounces at serve
> >> r.detomasolist.com>> on behalf of
> >> Mike Drew via DeTomaso
> >>
> <detomaso at server.detomasolist.com<mailto:detomaso at server.detomasolist.c
> >> om>>
> >> Sent: Friday, September 16, 2016 2:11 PM
> >> To: David Nunn
> >> Cc:
> >>
> <detomaso at server.detomasolist.com<mailto:detomaso at server.detomasolist.c
> >> om>>
> >> Subject: Re: [DeTomaso] Sanden Compressors noises
> >> All,
> >> Here is a photo of the IPSCO water pump idler pulley setup.
> Note
> >> there
> >> is no alternator in view, as this car is fitted with a flat
> >> firewall
> >> kit that moves the alternator outboard of the A/C system.
> >>
> >>
> [cid:da0fdac9-8741-4e03-b676-ebaa4760fb6f at namprd18.prod.outlook.com<mai
> >>
> lto:da0fdac9-8741-4e03-b676-ebaa4760fb6f at namprd18.prod.outlook.com>]
> >> Mike
> >> Sent from my iPhone
> >> On Sep 15, 2016, at 15:41, "David Nunn"
> >> <dnunn at telus.net<mailto:dnunn at telus.net>> wrote:
> >> Rob,
> >> If I'm not mistaken, IPSCO sells a kit that modifies Kirk's
> kit. It
> >> eliminates the "fitted", non-adjustable belt and makes it
> >> adjustable.
> >> It sure makes installation a lot easier. It's not listed on
> IPSCO's
> >> web
> >> site so you have to call or e-mail to get details.
> >> Also, IPSCO has an idler pulley kit that makes installation
> and
> >> belt
> >> tensioning a breeze.
> >> [1]http://www.ipsco.org/Pantera%20Parts/Idler%20Pulley.htm
> >> References
> >> 1. [1]http://www.ipsco.org/Pantera%20Parts/Idler%20Pulley.htm
> >> [2][Idler%20Pulley.jpg]
> >> [3]Idler Pulley - IPSCO, Pantera, Viper, Mechanical Parking
> ...
> >> www.ipsco.org<[136]http://www.ipsco.org>
> >> Pantera Idler Pulley Assembly . Replacement for factory Idler
> >> Pulley,
> >> this assembly allow adjustment without trying to hold a
> wrench
> >> behind
> >> the bracket to tighten in ...
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> [137]http://www.ipsco.org/Pantera%20Parts/Idler%20Pulley.htm
> >> 2.
> [138]http://www.ipsco.org/Pantera%20Parts/Idler%20Pulley.htm
> >> 3.
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> >> Message: 23
> >> Date: Fri, 16 Sep 2016 16:26:53 -0600
> >> From: bill <bill at incendium.com<mailto:bill at incendium.com>>
> >> To: michael frazier
> <red3644 at hotmail.com<mailto:red3644 at hotmail.com>>,
> >>
> >>
> "detomaso at server.detomasolist.com<mailto:detomaso at server.detomasolist.c
> >> om>"
> >>
> <detomaso at server.detomasolist.com<mailto:detomaso at server.detomasolist.c
> >> om>>
> >> Subject: Re: [DeTomaso] NPC, Need transmission suggestions
> >> Message-ID:
> >>
> <asutxkibtwmp20w9x9fxrayp.1474064813467 at email.android.com<mailto:asutxk
> >> ibtwmp20w9x9fxrayp.1474064813467 at email.android.com>>
> >> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8"
> >> Michael:Screw that put a Ford flat head V8 in that suckered.?
> >> CheersBill MooreCalgary
> >> -------- Original message --------From: michael frazier
> >> <red3644 at hotmail.com<mailto:red3644 at hotmail.com>> Date:
> 2016-09-16
> >> 3:46 PM (GMT-07:00) To:
> >>
> detomaso at server.detomasolist.com<mailto:detomaso at server.detomasolist.co
> >> m> Subject: [DeTomaso] NPC, Need transmission suggestions
> >> Hi All,
> >> I?m putting a 1951 Ford truck back on the road.? It sat in a barn
> since
> >> 1961 and only has 25k miles,
> >> but those were farm miles and it is beat though not rusted out.?
> >> Beautiful Rat Rod patina that will
> >> remain.? The frame is boxed and cross braced, and holds a
> complete
> >> Jaguar XJ suspension front and back.
> >> I plan to run a spare Cleveland, actually a real Boss 351, and
> want an
> >> overdrive transmission.? Manual or
> >> automatic, either one.? It won?t be drag raced but will be used
> >> regularly and would likely be run in an
> >> open road race some time.? That?s the reason for the overdrive.
> >> I?ve been out of this part of the game for a while and was
> wondering
> >> what would work well.
> >> What would bolt up and work.? What would it come out of?
> >> Any info and ideas would be greatly appreciated.
> >> Michael
> >> Sent from
> Mail<[144]https://go.microsoft.com/fwlink/?LinkId=550986> for
> >> Windows 10
> >> ?? Hi All,
> >> ?? I'm putting a 1951 Ford truck back on the road.? It sat in a
> barn
> >> since
> >> ?? 1961 and only has 25k miles,
> >> ?? but those were farm miles and it is beat though not rusted
> out.
> >> ?? Beautiful Rat Rod patina that will
> >> ?? remain.? The frame is boxed and cross braced, and holds a
> complete
> >> ?? Jaguar XJ suspension front and back.
> >> ?? I plan to run a spare Cleveland, actually a real Boss 351, and
> want
> >> an
> >> ?? overdrive transmission.? Manual or
> >> ?? automatic, either one.? It won't be drag raced but will be
> used
> >> ?? regularly and would likely be run in an
> >> ?? open road race some time.? That's the reason for the
> overdrive.
> >> ?? I've been out of this part of the game for a while and was
> wondering
> >> ?? what would work well.
> >> ?? What would bolt up and work.? What would it come out of?
> >> ?? Any info and ideas would be greatly appreciated.
> >> ?? Michael
> >> ?? Sent from [1]Mail for Windows 10
> >> References
> >> ?? 1. [145]https://go.microsoft.com/fwlink/?LinkId=550986
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> >> Michael:
> >> Screw that put a Ford flat head V8 in that suckered.
> >> Cheers
> >> Bill Moore
> >> Calgary
> >> -------- Original message --------
> >> From: michael frazier
> >> <red3644 at hotmail.com<mailto:red3644 at hotmail.com>>
> >> Date: 2016-09-16 3:46 PM (GMT-07:00)
> >> To:
> >>
> detomaso at server.detomasolist.com<mailto:detomaso at server.detomasolist.co
> >> m>
> >> Subject: [DeTomaso] NPC, Need transmission suggestions
> >> Hi All,
> >> I'm putting a 1951 Ford truck back on the road. It sat in a
> barn
> >> since
> >> 1961 and only has 25k miles,
> >> but those were farm miles and it is beat though not rusted
> out.
> >> Beautiful Rat Rod patina that will
> >> remain. The frame is boxed and cross braced, and holds a
> complete
> >> Jaguar XJ suspension front and back.
> >> I plan to run a spare Cleveland, actually a real Boss 351,
> and
> >> want an
> >> overdrive transmission. Manual or
> >> automatic, either one. It won't be drag raced but will be
> used
> >> regularly and would likely be run in an
> >> open road race some time. That's the reason for the
> overdrive.
> >> I've been out of this part of the game for a while and was
> >> wondering
> >> what would work well.
> >> What would bolt up and work. What would it come out of?
> >> Any info and ideas would be greatly appreciated.
> >> Michael
> >> Sent from
> >> Mail<[147]https://go.microsoft.com/fwlink/?LinkId=550986> for
> >> Windows 10
> >> Hi All,
> >> I'm putting a 1951 Ford truck back on the road. It sat
> in a
> >> barn
> >> since
> >> 1961 and only has 25k miles,
> >> but those were farm miles and it is beat though not
> rusted out.
> >> Beautiful Rat Rod patina that will
> >> remain. The frame is boxed and cross braced, and holds a
> >> complete
> >> Jaguar XJ suspension front and back.
> >> I plan to run a spare Cleveland, actually a real Boss
> 351, and
> >> want
> >> an
> >> overdrive transmission. Manual or
> >> automatic, either one. It won't be drag raced but will
> be used
> >> regularly and would likely be run in an
> >> open road race some time. That's the reason for the
> overdrive.
> >> I've been out of this part of the game for a while and
> was
> >> wondering
> >> what would work well.
> >> What would bolt up and work. What would it come out of?
> >> Any info and ideas would be greatly appreciated.
> >> Michael
> >> Sent from [1]Mail for Windows 10
> >> References
> >> 1. [148]https://go.microsoft.com/fwlink/?LinkId=550986
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> >> Message: 24
> >> Date: Fri, 16 Sep 2016 16:31:46 -0600
> >> From: bill <bill at incendium.com<mailto:bill at incendium.com>>
> >> To: David Nunn <dnunn at telus.net<mailto:dnunn at telus.net>>, 'Mike
> Drew'
> >> <MikeLDrew at aol.com<mailto:MikeLDrew at aol.com>>,
> >> 'Julian Kift'
> >> <julian_kift at hotmail.com<mailto:julian_kift at hotmail.com>>
> >> Cc:
> >>
> detomaso at server.detomasolist.com<mailto:detomaso at server.detomasolist.co
> >> m>
> >> Subject: Re: [DeTomaso] Sanden Compressors noises
> >> Message-ID:
> >>
> <twbfe1jjjap5dl76l23cu2gv.1474065106843 at email.android.com<mailto:twbfe1
> >> jjjap5dl76l23cu2gv.1474065106843 at email.android.com>>
> >> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8"
> >> Wow !,,,,
> >> That looks to nice to cover up.....
> >> CheersBill MooreCalgary
> >> -------- Original message --------From: David Nunn
> >> <dnunn at telus.net<mailto:dnunn at telus.net>> Date: 2016-09-16 4:04
> PM
> >> (GMT-07:00) To: 'Mike Drew'
> >> <MikeLDrew at aol.com<mailto:MikeLDrew at aol.com>>, 'Julian Kift'
> >> <julian_kift at hotmail.com<mailto:julian_kift at hotmail.com>> Cc:
> >>
> detomaso at server.detomasolist.com<mailto:detomaso at server.detomasolist.co
> >> m> Subject: Re: [DeTomaso] Sanden Compressors noises
> >> Julian,
> >> Further to what Mike wrote; here's a photo of the front of my
> engine,
> >> with
> >> both IPSCO items installed.
> >> David
> >> -----Original Message-----
> >> From: Mike Drew [[150]mailto:MikeLDrew at aol.com]
> >> Sent: September 16, 2016 2:19 PM
> >> To: Julian Kift
> >> <julian_kift at hotmail.com<mailto:julian_kift at hotmail.com>>
> >> Cc: David Nunn <dnunn at telus.net<mailto:dnunn at telus.net>>;
> >>
> detomaso at server.detomasolist.com<mailto:detomaso at server.detomasolist.co
> >> m>
> >> Subject: Re: [DeTomaso] Sanden Compressors noises
> >> Julian,
> >> Yes, he mentioned two different products for different
> applications but
> >> only
> >> had a link for the stock replacement idler. My photo shows the
> idler
> >> that
> >> replaces the alternator to tension the water pump belt.
> >> Mike
> >> Sent from my iPhone
> >> On Sep 16, 2016, at 14:16, Julian Kift
> >> <julian_kift at hotmail.com<mailto:julian_kift at hotmail.com>> wrote:
> >> ?? Mike,
> >> ?? It gets even better, that looks to be a different idler again,
> the
> >> one
> >> ?? that was previously linked appears to go in the stock
> location, but
> >> was
> >> ?? adjustable from the front negating the usual need to get a
> wrench on
> >> ?? the rear.
> >> ?? Julian
> >> ????
> __________________________________________________________________
> >> ?? From: DeTomaso
> >>
> <detomaso-bounces at server.detomasolist.com<mailto:detomaso-bounces at serve
> >> r.detomasolist.com>> on behalf of
> >> ?? Mike Drew via DeTomaso
> >>
> <detomaso at server.detomasolist.com<mailto:detomaso at server.detomasolist.c
> >> om>>
> >> ?? Sent: Friday, September 16, 2016 2:11 PM
> >> ?? To: David Nunn
> >> ?? Cc:
> >>
> <detomaso at server.detomasolist.com<mailto:detomaso at server.detomasolist.c
> >> om>>
> >> ?? Subject: Re: [DeTomaso] Sanden Compressors noises
> >> ?? All,
> >> ?? Here is a photo of the IPSCO water pump idler pulley setup.
> Note
> >> there
> >> ?? is no alternator in view, as this car is fitted with a flat
> firewall
> >> ?? kit that moves the alternator outboard of the A/C system.
> >> ??
> >>
> [cid:da0fdac9-8741-4e03-b676-ebaa4760fb6f at namprd18.prod.outlook.com<mai
> >>
> lto:da0fdac9-8741-4e03-b676-ebaa4760fb6f at namprd18.prod.outlook.com>]
> >> ?? Mike
> >> ?? Sent from my iPhone
> >> ?? On Sep 15, 2016, at 15:41, "David Nunn"
> >> <dnunn at telus.net<mailto:dnunn at telus.net>> wrote:
> >> ? Rob,
> >> ? If I'm not mistaken, IPSCO sells a kit that modifies Kirk's
> kit. It?
> >> eliminates the "fitted", non-adjustable belt and makes it
> >> ?? adjustable.
> >> ? It sure makes installation a lot easier. It's not listed on
> IPSCO's
> >> ?? web
> >> ? site so you have to call or e-mail to get details.
> >> ? Also, IPSCO has an idler pulley kit that makes installation and
> >> ?? belt
> >> ? tensioning a breeze.
> >> ? [1]http://www.ipsco.org/Pantera%20Parts/Idler%20Pulley.htm
> >> References
> >> ? 1. [1]http://www.ipsco.org/Pantera%20Parts/Idler%20Pulley.htm
> >> ?? [2][Idler%20Pulley.jpg]
> >> ?? [3]Idler Pulley - IPSCO, Pantera, Viper, Mechanical Parking
> ...
> >> ?? www.ipsco.org<[151]http://www.ipsco.org>
> >> ?? Pantera Idler Pulley Assembly . Replacement for factory Idler
> >> Pulley,
> >> ?? this assembly allow adjustment without trying to hold a wrench
> >> behind
> >> ?? the bracket to tighten in ...
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> >> ?? 1.
> [152]http://www.ipsco.org/Pantera%20Parts/Idler%20Pulley.htm
> >> ?? 2.
> [153]http://www.ipsco.org/Pantera%20Parts/Idler%20Pulley.htm
> >> ?? 3.
> [154]http://www.ipsco.org/Pantera%20Parts/Idler%20Pulley.htm
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> >> Wow !,,,,
> >> That looks to nice to cover up.....
> >> Cheers
> >> Bill Moore
> >> Calgary
> >> -------- Original message --------
> >> From: David Nunn <dnunn at telus.net<mailto:dnunn at telus.net>>
> >> Date: 2016-09-16 4:04 PM (GMT-07:00)
> >> To: 'Mike Drew'
> <MikeLDrew at aol.com<mailto:MikeLDrew at aol.com>>,
> >> 'Julian Kift'
> >> <julian_kift at hotmail.com<mailto:julian_kift at hotmail.com>>
> >> Cc:
> >>
> detomaso at server.detomasolist.com<mailto:detomaso at server.detomasolist.co
> >> m>
> >> Subject: Re: [DeTomaso] Sanden Compressors noises
> >> Julian,
> >> Further to what Mike wrote; here's a photo of the front of
> my
> >> engine,
> >> with
> >> both IPSCO items installed.
> >> David
> >> -----Original Message-----
> >> From: Mike Drew [[159]mailto:MikeLDrew at aol.com]
> >> Sent: September 16, 2016 2:19 PM
> >> To: Julian Kift
> >> <julian_kift at hotmail.com<mailto:julian_kift at hotmail.com>>
> >> Cc: David Nunn <dnunn at telus.net<mailto:dnunn at telus.net>>;
> >>
> detomaso at server.detomasolist.com<mailto:detomaso at server.detomasolist.co
> >> m>
> >> Subject: Re: [DeTomaso] Sanden Compressors noises
> >> Julian,
> >> Yes, he mentioned two different products for different
> >> applications but
> >> only
> >> had a link for the stock replacement idler. My photo shows
> the
> >> idler
> >> that
> >> replaces the alternator to tension the water pump belt.
> >> Mike
> >> Sent from my iPhone
> >> On Sep 16, 2016, at 14:16, Julian Kift
> >> <julian_kift at hotmail.com<mailto:julian_kift at hotmail.com>> wrote:
> >>> Mike,
> >>>
> >>> It gets even better, that looks to be a different idler again,
> >> the
> >> one
> >>> that was previously linked appears to go in the stock
> >> location, but
> >> was
> >>> adjustable from the front negating the usual need to get a
> >> wrench
> >> on
> >>> the rear.
> >>> Julian
> >>
> __________________________________________________________________
> >>>
> >>> From: DeTomaso
> >>
> <detomaso-bounces at server.detomasolist.com<mailto:detomaso-bounces at serve
> >> r.detomasolist.com>> on behalf
> >> of
> >>> Mike Drew via DeTomaso
> >>
> <detomaso at server.detomasolist.com<mailto:detomaso at server.detomasolist.c
> >> om>>
> >>> Sent: Friday, September 16, 2016 2:11 PM
> >>> To: David Nunn
> >>> Cc:
> >>
> <detomaso at server.detomasolist.com<mailto:detomaso at server.detomasolist.c
> >> om>>
> >>> Subject: Re: [DeTomaso] Sanden Compressors noises
> >>>
> >>> All,
> >>> Here is a photo of the IPSCO water pump idler pulley setup.
> >> Note
> >> there
> >>> is no alternator in view, as this car is fitted with a flat
> >> firewall
> >>> kit that moves the alternator outboard of the A/C system.
> >>
> >>
> [cid:da0fdac9-8741-4e03-b676-ebaa4760fb6f at namprd18.prod.outlook.com<mai
> >>
> lto:da0fdac9-8741-4e03-b676-ebaa4760fb6f at namprd18.prod.outlook.com>]
> >>> Mike
> >>> Sent from my iPhone
> >>> On Sep 15, 2016, at 15:41, "David Nunn"
> >> <dnunn at telus.net<mailto:dnunn at telus.net>> wrote:
> >>>> Rob,
> >>>>
> >>>> If I'm not mistaken, IPSCO sells a kit that modifies Kirk's
> >> kit.
> >> It
> >>>> eliminates the "fitted", non-adjustable belt and makes it
> >>> adjustable.
> >>>> It sure makes installation a lot easier. It's not listed on
> >> IPSCO's
> >>> web
> >>>> site so you have to call or e-mail to get details.
> >>>>
> >>>> Also, IPSCO has an idler pulley kit that makes installation
> >> and
> >>> belt
> >>>> tensioning a breeze.
> >>>>
> >>>> [1]http://www.ipsco.org/Pantera%20Parts/Idler%20Pulley.htm
> >>>>
> >>>> References
> >>>>
> >>>> 1. [1]http://www.ipsco.org/Pantera%20Parts/Idler%20Pulley.htm
> >>> [2][Idler%20Pulley.jpg]
> >>> [3]Idler Pulley - IPSCO, Pantera, Viper, Mechanical Parking
> >> ...
> >>> www.ipsco.org<[160]http://www.ipsco.org>
> >>> Pantera Idler Pulley Assembly . Replacement for factory Idler
> >> Pulley,
> >>> this assembly allow adjustment without trying to hold a wrench
> >> behind
> >>> the bracket to tighten in ...
> >>>> _______________________________________________
> >>>>
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> >>> 1.
> >> [161]http://www.ipsco.org/Pantera%20Parts/Idler%20Pulley.htm
> >>> 2.
> >> [162]http://www.ipsco.org/Pantera%20Parts/Idler%20Pulley.htm
> >>> 3.
> >> [163]http://www.ipsco.org/Pantera%20Parts/Idler%20Pulley.htm
> >>> 4.
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> 22. http://server.detomasolist.com/mailman/listinfo/detomaso
> 23. http://centralwines.com/
> 24. http://facebook.com/CentralLiquors
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> 27. mailto:thimes at jpl.nasa.gov
> 28. mailto:thimes at jpl.nasa.gov
> 29. mailto:detomaso-bounces at server.detomasolist.com
> 30. mailto:demongusta at gmail.com
> 31. mailto:detomaso at server.detomasolist.com
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> electric-fans/universal/primary-fans.html
> 58. mailto:DeTomaso at server.detomasolist.com
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> 60. http://centralwines.com/
> 61. http://facebook.com/CentralLiquors
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> 64. http://centralwines.com/
> 65. http://facebook.com/CentralLiquors
> 66. mailto:mycars at comcast.net
> 67. mailto:detomaso at server.detomasolist.com
> 68. mailto:DeTomaso at server.detomasolist.com
> 69. http://server.detomasolist.com/mailman/listinfo/detomaso
> 70. http://weldwheels.com/shop/street-strip/sport-forged-
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> 71. http://centralwines.com/
> 72. http://facebook.com/CentralLiquors
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> 74. mailto:detomaso at server.detomasolist.com
> 75. mailto:DeTomaso at server.detomasolist.com
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> 82. http://server.detomasolist.com/mailman/listinfo/detomaso
> 83. http://centralwines.com/
> 84. http://facebook.com/CentralLiquors
> 85. mailto:mycars at comcast.net
> 86. mailto:detomaso at server.detomasolist.com
> 87. mailto:DeTomaso at server.detomasolist.com
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> 90. http://server.detomasolist.com/mailman/listinfo/detomaso
> 91. http://server.detomasolist.com/mailman/listinfo/detomaso
> 92. http://server.detomasolist.com/mailman/listinfo/detomaso
> 93. http://server.detomasolist.com/mailman/listinfo/detomaso
> 94. mailto:will.kooiman at gmail.com
> 95. mailto:detomaso at server.detomasolist.com
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Julian - do you have a good source for zddp levels in the different
brands?
I bought zddp additive a few years ago but have read that it does more
harm than good when all is said and done. My personal philosophy is
that any major brand of oil will protect your oil sufficiently, but I
am concerned about zddp..
On Sat, Sep 17, 2016 at 10:02 PM, Julian Kift
<[1]julian_kift at hotmail.com> wrote:
A A The Mobil 1 Racing has the highest ZDDP at 1750 as it does not
have to
A A comply with the mandated specs for street use.
A A The other weights of Mobil 1 have varying amounts of ZDDP, it
looks
A A like the 0-40W FS has 1,000 ppm which I think is the upper
limit
A A allowable for the SF rating compliance. Here's the 2016 specs
of the
A A various Mobil 1 offerings;
A A [1][2]https://mobiloil.com/~/media/amer/us/pvl/files/pdfs/
mobil-1-oil-prod
A A uct-specs-guide-2016.pdf
A A With your new rebuild you'll ideally want to use a good break
in oil
A A initially to get the rings seated etc.
A A Julian
A A A ____________________________________________________________
______
A A From: DeTomaso <[3]detomaso-bounces at server.detomasolist.com> on
behalf of
A A Michael Barnes <[4]michaelbarnessrt10 at hotmail.co.uk>
A A Sent: Saturday, September 17, 2016 12:37 PM
A A To: Dave Londry
A A Cc: [5]detomaso at server.detomasolist.com
A A Subject: Re: [DeTomaso] Oil Suggestions
A A So , is synthetic compatible with our Cleveland engines, say
0-40 ? My
A A engine is currently being upgraded and I am hoping to use Mobil
One
A A Sent from Michael's iPhone
A A > On 17 Sep 2016, at 19:12, Dave Londry <[6]davel at emspace.com>
wrote:
A A >
A A > Ever since the specs on Mobil 1 went to hell I've been using
Rotella
A A T6.
A A > It's got a great set of specs and they've been keeping them
stable.
A A >
A A > And just to keep the discussion lively -
A A >
A A > ***A synthetic is superior in every aspect of lubrication.***
A A > Dave
A A >
A A >
A A >> On 2016-09-17 10:47 AM, Julian Kift wrote:
A A >>A A Traditionally diesel oils have high levels of
detergents to deal
A A with
A A >>A A the high sulfur, acidic conditions and higher heat etc.
however
A A with
A A >>A A the advent of low sulfur diesels they have come closer
to
A A gasoline
A A >>A A formulations. In fact there are a number of "Full
fleet' oils
A A designed
A A >>A A for use in both gasoline and diesel engines now. What
diesel oils
A A do
A A >>A A have is a high level of ZDDP required for older flat
tappet
A A >>A A cams (Rotella T is 1200 ppm ZDDP) and Rotella T is
actually
A A recommended
A A >>A A by the Porsche Club of America.
A A >>
A A >>A A I do think there's a bit of a contradiction in terms
between
A A "Rotella
A A >>A A Type T 15W40" "I like to use the best oil" and "No
synthetics";
A A no
A A >>A A doubt synthetics are more robust than dinosaur oil and
the
A A Rotella T
A A >>A A oils are now split into varying T grades T1 straight
grade, T4
A A triple
A A >>A A protection , T5 synthetic and T6 a synthetic extreme
temperature.
A A All
A A >>A A have 1200 ppm of ZDDP as far as I can ascertain so the
T6 would
A A be the
A A >>A A best, although I'm sure the lesser will do the job.
A A >>
A A >>A A Yes it's confusing, but not rocket science....
A A >>
A A >>A A Personally I use Amsoil Z-Rod in my classic cars and
have one of
A A their
A A >>A A preferred customer accounts for discount as I also buy
pure
A A racing oils
A A >>A A and marine products.
A A >>
A A >>A A Julian
A A >>
A A ____________________________________________________________
______
A A >>
A A >>A A From: DeTomaso <[7]detomaso-bounces at server.
detomasolist.com> on
A A behalf of
A A >>A A Himes, Terry (397C) <[8]terry.himes at jpl.nasa.gov>
A A >>A A Sent: Saturday, September 17, 2016 9:50 AM
A A >>A A To: [9]detomaso at server.detomasolist.com
A A >>A A Subject: [DeTomaso] Oil Suggestions
A A >>
A A >>A A Good Morning Everyone,
A A >>A A I don't want to startup the oil discussion again.A But
does
A A anyone have
A A >>A A thoughts on
A A >>A A Rotella Type T 15w40.A Which is a heavy duty diesel
oil.A It was
A A >>A A suggested by a local
A A >>A A Mustang shop.A I like to use the best oil.A A No
synthetics.
A A >>A A My rebuilt 351c (nothing fancy done, just the normal
upgrades)
A A has
A A >>A A about 3,500 miles
A A >>A A on it and running great.
A A >>A A Thanks so much.
A A >>A A Terry
A A >>A A "A Purple Heart proves you were smart enough to hatch a
plan,
A A >>A A A stupid enough to try it and lucky enough to survive!"
A A >>A A Terry W. Himes
A A >>A A JPL Jet Propulsion Laboratory
A A >>A A Dawn Spacecraft Team
A A >>A A Rosetta Sequence Team Lead
A A >>A A Phone: [10](818) 393-6261
A A >>A A Cell:A A A [11](818) 653-8213
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A A >>A A [13]thimes at jpl.nasa.gov<[1]mailto:[14]
thimes at jpl.nasa.gov>
A A >>A A From: DeTomaso
A A >>
A A <[15]detomaso-bounces at server.detomasolist.com<mailto:[16]detoma
so-bounces at serve
A A >>A A [17]r.detomasolist.com>> on behalf of Julian Kift
A A >>A A <[18]julian_kift at hotmail.com<
mailto:[19]julian_kift at hotmail.com>>
A A >>A A Date: Saturday, September 17, 2016 7:56 AM
A A >>A A To: Owen Cooke <[20]owen at tadhgcooke.com<mailto:[21]ow
en at tadhgcooke.com>>,
A A >>
A A "[22]detomaso at server.detomasolist.
com<mailto:[23]detomaso at server.detomasolist.c
A A >>A A om>"
A A >>
A A <[24]detomaso at server.detomasolist.
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A A >>A A om>>
A A >>A A Subject: Re: [DeTomaso] DeTomaso Digest, Vol 147, Issue
19
A A >>A A It's great to hear that you now have a functioning
cooling
A A system,
A A >>A A although I have to wonder which of the particular
changes
A A contributed
A A >>A A most, I suspect the thermostat housing being blocked
off was a
A A bulk of
A A >>A A the problem.
A A >>A A I had a similar experience when I got my first Pantera,
it
A A overheated
A A >>A A in traffic, so I jumped on the web found all these
articles about
A A >>A A swapping radiators and fans etc. and duly went and
purchased a
A A setup.
A A >>A A When I got to going through the car checking the
thermostat I
A A found it
A A >>A A was a Windsor style, I swapped it for the correct
Cleveland
A A t-stat and
A A >>A A voila heating issues resolved.
A A >>A A It's just a reminder to check the simple stuff prior to
laying
A A out big
A A >>A A $$$, even now I think there are still a lot of myths'
perpetuated
A A about
A A >>A A these cars... like someone once said "why let the truth
get in
A A the way
A A >>A A of a good story"
A A >>A A Julian
A A >>A A ________________________________
A A >>A A From: DeTomaso
A A >>
A A <[26]detomaso-bounces at server.detomasolist.com<mailto:[27]detoma
so-bounces at serve
A A >>A A [28]r.detomasolist.com>> on behalf of Owen Cooke
A A >>A A <[29]owen at tadhgcooke.com<mailto:[30]ow
en at tadhgcooke.com>>
A A >>A A Sent: Saturday, September 17, 2016 2:19 AM
A A >>A A To:
A A >>
A A [31]detomaso at server.detomasolist.
com<mailto:[32]detomaso at server.detomasolist.co
A A >>A A m>
A A >>A A Subject: Re: [DeTomaso] DeTomaso Digest, Vol 147, Issue
19
A A >>A A guys
A A >>A A i had overheating problems
A A >>A A i put in a new hall brass rad but my car had bleed pipe
from the
A A rad
A A >>A A back to the swirl tankA and no fitting in halls rad
for it apart
A A from a
A A >>A A top bleed screw
A A >>A A so i made a junction to fit the original bleed screw
and the
A A bleed pipe
A A >>A A to it
A A >>A A then new mariah (is that the right name) that fir on
the stock
A A brackets
A A >>A A and wired them directly from the batteryA to the
relays
A A >>A A i found the hole under the thermostat was blocked with
solder
A A >>A A i removed that and fitted a new stat
A A >>A A now all is perfect temp wise - warms up steady and
holds the 90c
A A or
A A >>A A 195fA A in all conditions
A A >>A A my gauge with sender in block beside the pump/stat
ready 150f but
A A its
A A >>A A steady and i know what to expect
A A >>A A very happy with result
A A >>A A owen cooke
A A >>A A On 16/09/2016 23:31,
A A >>
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A A >>A A A A A 1. Fans and shroud (Jack Donahue)
A A >>A A A A A 2. Re: Fans and shroud (Himes, Terry (397C))
A A >>A A A A A 3. Tires for Grp IV Flared Car (MyCars)
A A >>A A A A A 4. Re: Tires for Grp IV Flared Car (LSJ)
A A >>A A A A A 5. Re: Fans and shroud (Jack Donahue)
A A >>A A A A A 6. Re: Fans and shroud (Jack Donahue)
A A >>A A A A A 7. Re: Fans and shroud (Larry Stock)
A A >>A A A A A 8. McLeod hydraulic throw out (Cullen McCann)
A A >>A A A A A 9. Re: Fans and shroud (Ken Green)
A A >>A A A A 10.A McLeod hydraulic throw out (Larry Finch)
A A >>A A A A 11. Re: Tires for Grp IV Flared Car (MyCars)
A A >>A A A A 12. Re: Tires for Grp IV Flared Car (MyCars)
A A >>A A A A 13. Re: McLeod hydraulic throw out (Will Kooiman)
A A >>A A A A 14. Re: McLeod hydraulic throw out (Cullen
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A A >>A A A A 15. Re: McLeod hydraulic throw out (Larry Stock)
A A >>A A A A 16. Re: Sanden Compressors noises (Mike Drew)
A A >>A A A A 17. Re: Sanden Compressors noises (Julian Kift)
A A >>A A A A 18. Re: Sanden Compressors noises (Mike Drew)
A A >>A A A A 19. Re: McLeod hydraulic throw out (Larry Finch)
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A A >>A A Message: 1
A A >>A A Date: Fri, 16 Sep 2016 09:29:46 -0700
A A >>A A From: Jack Donahue
A A <[47]demongusta at gmail.com<mailto:[48]demongusta at gmail.com>>
A A >>A A To:
A A >>
A A "[49]detomaso at server.detomasolist.
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A A >>A A om>"
A A >>
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A A >>A A Subject: [DeTomaso] Fans and shroud
A A >>A A Message-ID:
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A A >>A A Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8
A A >>A A Hey all - A few weeks ago I was talking asking The List
about
A A >>A A radiators - all said-and-done, I decided on the Hall
radiator,
A A since I
A A >>A A wanted brass/copper instead of aluminum.A And, yes
Mike Drew, I
A A have to
A A >>A A admit it?s because I want to, not necessarily NEED to.
It ain?t
A A broke,
A A >>A A but I am fixing it(?). Didn?t want to admit that,
but...Lol.
A A There
A A >>A A really is an ulterior motive, but I just don?t want to
mention it
A A right
A A >>A A now; but I ran my idea pastA BrassworksA - who says
they will
A A >>A A ?build-to-suit? - but the Hall unit looks to be
A A ?tried-and-proven?.
A A >>A A Now - fans. I really don?t know the brand name of my
fans, but
A A they are
A A >>A A suckers - about 12? diameter - and the blades are
?curved?A -
A A >>A A sickle-shaped. The names that been bouncing around are
Mariah,
A A SPAL,
A A >>A A and Flex-a-lite. I had read someone?s post about the
A A Flex-a-lite?s
A A >>A A since they said they can be - or are - mounted in a
shroud that
A A is a
A A >>A A perfect match for the Pantera radiator size. I think.
And someone
A A >>A A offered-upA a part number, but I deleted (or lost) it.
All normal
A A for
A A >>A A me.
A A >>A A So - I am ready for opinions/suggestions:
A A >>A A jack
A A >>A A #4348
A A >>A A ------------------------------
A A >>A A Message: 2
A A >>A A Date: Fri, 16 Sep 2016 16:54:05 +0000
A A >>A A From: "Himes, Terry (397C)"
A A >>A A <[60]terry.himes at jpl.nasa.gov<
mailto:[61]terry.himes at jpl.nasa.gov>>
A A >>A A To: Jack Donahue
A A <[62]demongusta at gmail.com<mailto:[63]demongusta at gmail.com>>,
A A >>
A A >>
A A "[64]detomaso at server.detomasolist.
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A A >>A A om>"
A A >>
A A <[66]detomaso at server.detomasolist.
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A A >>A A om>>
A A >>A A Subject: Re: [DeTomaso] Fans and shroud
A A >>A A Message-ID:
A A >>
A A <[68]D4016E9F.92F3B%thimes at jpl.nasa.gov<mailto:[69]D4016E9F.
92F3B%thimes at jpl.na
A A >>A A [70]sa.gov>>
A A >>A A Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8"
A A >>A A Jack,
A A >>A A Good stuff.A I too am running the original radiator
with new
A A fans.A I'm
A A >>A A not going to change it
A A >>A A now but I will follow your progress.A Someday I will
have to deal
A A with
A A >>A A it.A So keep posting and
A A >>A A I will keep saving the responses.A A ;-)
A A >>A A Terry
A A >>A A "A Purple Heart proves you were smart enough to hatch a
plan,
A A >>A A A A stupid enough to try it and lucky enough to
survive!"
A A >>A A Terry W. Himes
A A >>A A JPL Jet Propulsion Laboratory
A A >>A A Dawn Spacecraft Team
A A >>A A Rosetta Sequence Team Lead
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A A >>A A [77]sa.gov>
A A >>A A ??
A A >>A A From: DeTomaso
A A >>
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so-bounces at serve
A A >>
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A A >>A A on behalf of Jack Donahue
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A A <[82]demongusta at gmail.com<mailto:[83]d
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A A >>A A [85]ail.com>>
A A >>A A Date: Friday, September 16, 2016 9:29 AM
A A >>A A To:
A A >>
A A "[86]detomaso at server.detomasolist.
com<mailto:[87]detomaso at server.detomasolist.c
A A >>A A om><[3]mailto:[88]detomaso at server.detomasolist.com>"
A A >>
A A <[89]detomaso at server.detomasolist.
com<mailto:[90]detomaso at server.detomasolist.c
A A >>A A om><[4]mailto:[91]detomaso at server.detomasolist.com>>
A A >>A A Cc:
A A >>
A A "[92]detomaso at server.detomasolist.
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A A >>A A om><[5]mailto:[94]detomaso at server.detomasolist.com>"
A A >>
A A <[95]detomaso at server.detomasolist.
com<mailto:[96]detomaso at server.detomasolist.c
A A >>A A om><[6]mailto:[97]detomaso at server.detomasolist.com>>
A A >>A A Subject: [DeTomaso] Fans and shroud
A A >>A A Hey all - A few weeks ago I was talking asking The List
about
A A >>A A radiators - all said-and-done, I decided on the Hall
radiator,
A A since I
A A >>A A wanted brass/copper instead of aluminum.A And, yes
Mike Drew, I
A A have to
A A >>A A admit it?s because I want to, not necessarily NEED to.
It ain?t
A A broke,
A A >>A A but I am fixing it(?). Didn?t want to admit that,
but...Lol.
A A There
A A >>A A really is an ulterior motive, but I just don?t want to
mention it
A A right
A A >>A A now; but I ran my idea pastA BrassworksA - who says
they will
A A >>A A ?build-to-suit? - but the Hall unit looks to be
A A ?tried-and-proven?.
A A >>A A Now - fans. I really don?t know the brand name of my
fans, but
A A they are
A A >>A A suckers - about 12? diameter - and the blades are
?curved?A -
A A >>A A sickle-shaped. The names that been bouncing around are
Mariah,
A A SPAL,
A A >>A A and Flex-a-lite. I had read someone?s post about the
A A Flex-a-lite?s
A A >>A A since they said they can be - or are - mounted in a
shroud that
A A is a
A A >>A A perfect match for the Pantera radiator size. I think.
And someone
A A >>A A offered-upA a part number, but I deleted (or lost) it.
All normal
A A for
A A >>A A me.
A A >>A A So - I am ready for opinions/suggestions:
A A >>A A jack
A A >>A A #4348
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A A >>A A A A A Jack,
A A >>A A A A A Good stuff.A I too am running the original
radiator with new
A A >>A A fans.A I'm
A A >>A A A A A not going to change it
A A >>A A A A A now but I will follow your progress.A Someday
I will have to
A A deal
A A >>A A with
A A >>A A A A A it.A So keep posting and
A A >>A A A A A I will keep saving the responses.A A ;-)
A A >>A A A A A Terry
A A >>A A A A A "A Purple Heart proves you were smart enough to
hatch a
A A plan,
A A >>A A A A A stupid enough to try it and lucky enough to
survive!"
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A A >>A A A A A From: DeTomaso
A A >>
A A <[2][107]detomaso-bounces at server.
detomasolist.com<mailto:[108]detomaso-bounces at se
A A >>A A [109]rver.detomasolist.com>> on behalf
A A >>A A A A A of Jack Donahue
A A >>A A <[3][110]demongusta at gmail.com<
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A A >>A A A A A Date: Friday, September 16, 2016 9:29 AM
A A >>A A A A A To:
A A >>
A A "[4][112]detomaso at server.detomasolist.com<mailto:[113]detoma
so at server.detomasolis
A A >>A A [114]t.com>"
A A >>
A A >>
A A <[5][115]detomaso at server.detomasolist.com<mailto:[116]detoma
so at server.detomasolis
A A >>A A [117]t.com>>
A A >>A A A A A Cc:
A A >>
A A "[6][118]detomaso at server.detomasolist.com<mailto:[119]detoma
so at server.detomasolis
A A >>A A [120]t.com>"
A A >>
A A >>
A A <[7][121]detomaso at server.detomasolist.com<mailto:[122]detoma
so at server.detomasolis
A A >>A A [123]t.com>>
A A >>A A A A A Subject: [DeTomaso] Fans and shroud
A A >>A A A A A Hey all - A few weeks ago I was talking asking
The List
A A >>A A A A A aboutA radiators - all said-and-done, I
decided on the Hall
A A >>A A radiator,
A A >>A A A A A since I wanted brass/copper instead of
aluminum.A And, yes
A A Mike
A A >>A A Drew, I
A A >>A A A A A have to admit it's because I want to, not
necessarily NEED
A A to. It
A A >>A A ain't
A A >>A A A A A broke, but I am fixing it(?). Didn't want to
admit that,
A A >>A A but...Lol.
A A >>A A A A A There really is an ulterior motive, but I just
don't want to
A A >>A A mention it
A A >>A A A A A right now; but I ran my idea pastA
BrassworksA - who says
A A they
A A >>A A will
A A >>A A A A A "build-to-suit" - but the Hall unit looks to be
A A >>A A "tried-and-proven".
A A >>A A A A A Now - fans. I really don't know the brand name
of my fans,
A A but
A A >>A A they are
A A >>A A A A A suckers - about 12" diameter - and the blades
are "curved"
A A -
A A >>A A A A A sickle-shaped. The names that been bouncing
around are
A A Mariah,
A A >>A A SPAL,
A A >>A A A A A and Flex-a-lite. I had read someone's post
about the
A A Flex-a-lite's
A A >>A A A A A since they said they can be - or are - mounted
in a shroud
A A that is
A A >>A A a
A A >>A A A A A perfect match for the Pantera radiator size. I
think. And
A A someone
A A >>A A A A A offered-upA a part number, but I deleted (or
lost) it. All
A A normal
A A >>A A for
A A >>A A A A A me.
A A >>A A A A A So - I am ready for opinions/suggestions:
A A >>A A A A A jack
A A >>A A A A A #4348
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A A >>A A Message: 3
A A >>A A Date: Fri, 16 Sep 2016 10:03:20 -0700
A A >>A A From: MyCars <[136]mycars at comcast.net<mailto:[137]myc
ars at comcast.net>>
A A >>A A To:
A A >>
A A [138]detomaso at server.detomasolist.
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A A >>A A m>
A A >>A A Subject: [DeTomaso] Tires for Grp IV Flared Car
A A >>A A Message-ID:
A A >>
A A <[140]6fa00360-0d5e-3618-1132-2455f7b0aca2 at comcast.net<
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A A >>A A [142]3618-1132-2455f7b0aca2 at comcast.net>>
A A >>A A Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8; format=flowed
A A >>A A I just bought 345-35 R15 Pirelli Asimmetrico (24.8"
tall) tires
A A for the
A A >>A A rear and wondering what would be a good match for the
front.
A A >>A A I found 225-50 R15 Pirelli P Zero Trofeo R (23.9"
tall). This
A A would
A A >>A A give
A A >>A A the car a bit of rake, but what would the handling be
like?
A A >>A A Thanks in advance for your thoughts
A A >>A A Roy
A A >>A A ------------------------------
A A >>A A Message: 4
A A >>A A Date: Fri, 16 Sep 2016 17:08:50 +0000 (UTC)
A A >>A A From: LSJ <[143]lashdeep at yahoo.com<mailto:[144]las
hdeep at yahoo.com>>
A A >>A A To: MyCars <[145]mycars at comcast.net<mailto:[146]myc
ars at comcast.net>>,
A A >>
A A "[147]detomaso at server.detomasolist.
com<mailto:[148]detomaso at server.detomasolist.c
A A >>A A om>"
A A >>
A A >>
A A <[149]detomaso at server.detomasolist.
com<mailto:[150]detomaso at server.detomasolist.c
A A >>A A om>>
A A >>A A Subject: Re: [DeTomaso] Tires for Grp IV Flared Car
A A >>A A Message-ID:
A A >>
A A <[151]1287234121.1004140.1474045730621 at mail.yahoo.com<
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A A >>A A [153]140.1474045730621 at mail.yahoo.com>>
A A >>A A Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8"
A A >>A A What size wheel up front?
A A >>A A ?LSJ
A A >>A A central wines-spirits?? est 1934
A A >>A A 625 e street nw
A A >>A A washington, dc 20004
A A >>A A [154]centralwines.com
A A >>A A [155]facebook.com/CentralLiquors
A A >>A A [156]202-737-2800
A A >>A A A A A A From: MyCars
A A <[157]mycars at comcast.net<mailto:[158]mycars at comcast.net>>
A A >>A A A A To:
A A >>
A A [159]detomaso at server.detomasolist.
com<mailto:[160]detomaso at server.detomasolist.co
A A >>A A m>
A A >>A A A A Sent: Friday, September 16, 2016 1:03 PM
A A >>A A A A Subject: [DeTomaso] Tires for Grp IV Flared Car
A A >>A A I just bought 345-35 R15 Pirelli Asimmetrico (24.8"
tall) tires
A A for the
A A >>A A rear and wondering what would be a good match for the
front.
A A >>A A I found 225-50 R15 Pirelli P Zero Trofeo R (23.9"
tall). This
A A would
A A >>A A give
A A >>A A the car a bit of rake, but what would the handling be
like?
A A >>A A Thanks in advance for your thoughts
A A >>A A Roy
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A A >>A A A A A What size wheel up front?
A A >>A A A A A LSJ
A A >>A A A A A central
A A >>A A A A A wines-spiritsA A est 1934
A A >>A A A A A 625 e street nw
A A >>A A A A A washington, dc 20004
A A >>A A A A A [1][164]centralwines.com
A A >>A A A A A [2][165]facebook.com/CentralLiquors
A A >>A A A A A [166]202-737-2800
A A >>
A A >>
A A ____________________________________________________________
______
A A >>A A A A A From: MyCars
<[167]mycars at comcast.net<mailto:[168]mycars at comcast.net>>
A A >>A A A A A To:
A A >>
A A [169]detomaso at server.detomasolist.
com<mailto:[170]detomaso at server.detomasolist.co
A A >>A A m>
A A >>A A A A A Sent: Friday, September 16, 2016 1:03 PM
A A >>A A A A A Subject: [DeTomaso] Tires for Grp IV Flared Car
A A >>A A A A A I just bought 345-35 R15 Pirelli Asimmetrico
(24.8" tall)
A A tires
A A >>A A for the
A A >>A A A A A rear and wondering what would be a good match
for the front.
A A >>A A A A A I found 225-50 R15 Pirelli P Zero Trofeo R
(23.9" tall).
A A This
A A >>A A would
A A >>A A A A A give
A A >>A A A A A the car a bit of rake, but what would the
handling be like?
A A >>A A A A A Thanks in advance for your thoughts
A A >>A A A A A Roy
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A A >>A A ------------------------------
A A >>A A Message: 5
A A >>A A Date: Fri, 16 Sep 2016 10:13:05 -0700
A A >>A A From: Jack Donahue
A A <[178]demongusta at gmail.com<mailto:[179]demongusta at gmail.com>>
A A >>A A To: "Himes, Terry (397C)"
A A >>A A <[180]terry.himes at jpl.nasa.gov<
mailto:[181]terry.himes at jpl.nasa.gov>>
A A >>A A Cc:
A A >>
A A "[182]detomaso at server.detomasolist.
com<mailto:[183]detomaso at server.detomasolist.c
A A >>A A om>"
A A >>
A A >>
A A <[184]detomaso at server.detomasolist.
com<mailto:[185]detomaso at server.detomasolist.c
A A >>A A om>>
A A >>A A Subject: Re: [DeTomaso] Fans and shroud
A A >>A A Message-ID:
A A >>
A A <[186]09791B61-DE0D-40CC-859D-
437A8528952A at gmail.com<mailto:[187]09791B61-DE0D-40
A A >>A A [188]CC-859D-437A8528952A at gmail.com>>
A A >>A A Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8"
A A >>A A Terry - I don?t have the original radiator - I
currently have a
A A >>A A Fluidyne with twin suckers, tilted forward, and A/C
condenser in
A A front.
A A >>A A Originally, I wanted to just add a shroud, based on a
friend of
A A mine
A A >>A A who does some serious off-road driving - he swears by a
shroud -
A A says
A A >>A A it really made a difference for him and that I should
AT LEAST
A A get one
A A >>A A for the whole ?Pantera-Heat-Prevention Program. That
sounds good
A A -
A A >>A A (PHPP).A Anyway, the more I looked into things, the
more I was
A A >>A A ?converted" to brass/copper as it seems to beA more
reliable -
A A and more
A A >>A A repairable (which I like).
A A >>A A jack
A A >>A A On Sep 16, 2016, at 9:54 AM, Himes, Terry (397C)
A A >>A A <[189]terry.himes at jpl.nasa.gov<
mailto:[190]terry.himes at jpl.nasa.gov>>
A A wrote:
A A >>A A Jack,
A A >>A A Good stuff.A I too am running the original radiator
with new
A A fans.A I'm
A A >>A A not going to change it
A A >>A A now but I will follow your progress.A Someday I will
have to deal
A A with
A A >>A A it.A So keep posting and
A A >>A A I will keep saving the responses.A A ;-)
A A >>A A Terry
A A >>A A "A Purple Heart proves you were smart enough to hatch a
plan,
A A >>A A A A stupid enough to try it and lucky enough to
survive!"
A A >>A A Terry W. Himes
A A >>A A JPL Jet Propulsion Laboratory
A A >>A A Dawn Spacecraft Team
A A >>A A Rosetta Sequence Team Lead
A A >>A A Phone: [191](818) 393-6261
A A >>A A Cell:A A A (818) 653-8213
A A >>A A Fax:A A A (818) 393-3147
A A >>A A [192]thimes at jpl.nasa.gov<[20]
mailto:[193]thimes at jpl.nasa.gov>
A A >>A A <[21]mailto:[194]thimes at jpl.nasa.gov>
A A >>A A ??
A A >>A A From: DeTomaso
A A >>
A A <[195]detomaso-bounces at server.
detomasolist.com<mailto:[196]detomaso-bounces at serve
A A >>A A [197]r.detomasolist.com>
A A >>A A <[22]mailto:[198]detomaso-bounces@
server.detomasolist.com>> on behalf
A A of
A A >>A A Jack Donahue <[199]demongusta at gmail.com<mailto:[200]d
emongusta at gmail.com>
A A >>A A <[23]mailto:[201]demongusta at gmail.com>>
A A >>A A Date: Friday, September 16, 2016 9:29 AM
A A >>A A To:
A A >>
A A "[202]detomaso at server.detomasolist.
com<mailto:[203]detomaso at server.detomasolist.c
A A >>A A om> <[24]mailto:[204]detomaso at server.detomasolist.com>"
A A >>
A A <[205]detomaso at server.detomasolist.
com<mailto:[206]detomaso at server.detomasolist.c
A A >>A A om> <[25]mailto:[207]detomaso at server.detomasolist.com>>
A A >>A A Cc:
A A >>
A A "[208]detomaso at server.detomasolist.
com<mailto:[209]detomaso at server.detomasolist.c
A A >>A A om> <[26]mailto:[210]detomaso at server.detomasolist.com>"
A A >>
A A <[211]detomaso at server.detomasolist.
com<mailto:[212]detomaso at server.detomasolist.c
A A >>A A om> <[27]mailto:[213]detomaso at server.detomasolist.com>>
A A >>A A Subject: [DeTomaso] Fans and shroud
A A >>A A Hey all - A few weeks ago I was talking asking The List
about
A A >>A A radiators - all said-and-done, I decided on the Hall
radiator,
A A since I
A A >>A A wanted brass/copper instead of aluminum.A And, yes
Mike Drew, I
A A have to
A A >>A A admit it?s because I want to, not necessarily NEED to.
It ain?t
A A broke,
A A >>A A but I am fixing it(?). Didn?t want to admit that,
but...Lol.
A A There
A A >>A A really is an ulterior motive, but I just don?t want to
mention it
A A right
A A >>A A now; but I ran my idea pastA BrassworksA - who says
they will
A A >>A A ?build-to-suit? - but the Hall unit looks to be
A A ?tried-and-proven?.
A A >>A A Now - fans. I really don?t know the brand name of my
fans, but
A A they are
A A >>A A suckers - about 12? diameter - and the blades are
?curved?A -
A A >>A A sickle-shaped. The names that been bouncing around are
Mariah,
A A SPAL,
A A >>A A and Flex-a-lite. I had read someone?s post about the
A A Flex-a-lite?s
A A >>A A since they said they can be - or are - mounted in a
shroud that
A A is a
A A >>A A perfect match for the Pantera radiator size. I think.
And someone
A A >>A A offered-upA a part number, but I deleted (or lost) it.
All normal
A A for
A A >>A A me.
A A >>A A So - I am ready for opinions/suggestions:
A A >>A A jack
A A >>A A #4348
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A A >>A A A A A Terry - I don't have the original radiator - I
currently
A A have a
A A >>A A A A A Fluidyne with twin suckers, tilted forward, and
A/C
A A condenser in
A A >>A A front.
A A >>A A A A A Originally, I wanted to just add a shroud,
based on a friend
A A of
A A >>A A mine
A A >>A A A A A who does some serious off-road driving - he
swears by a
A A shroud -
A A >>A A says
A A >>A A A A A it really made a difference for him and that I
should AT
A A LEAST get
A A >>A A one
A A >>A A A A A for the whole "Pantera-Heat-Prevention Program.
That sounds
A A good -
A A >>A A A A A (PHPP).A Anyway, the more I looked into
things, the more I
A A was
A A >>A A A A A "converted" to brass/copper as it seems to beA
more reliable
A A - and
A A >>A A more
A A >>A A A A A repairable (which I like).
A A >>A A A A A jack
A A >>A A A A A On Sep 16, 2016, at 9:54 AM, Himes, Terry
(397C)
A A >>
A A <[1][219]terry.himes at jpl.nasa.gov<
mailto:[220]terry.himes at jpl.nasa.gov>>
A A >>A A wrote:
A A >>A A A A A Jack,
A A >>A A A A A Good stuff.A I too am running the original
radiator with new
A A >>A A fans.A I'm
A A >>A A A A A not going to change it
A A >>A A A A A now but I will follow your progress.A Someday
I will have to
A A deal
A A >>A A with
A A >>A A A A A it.A So keep posting and
A A >>A A A A A I will keep saving the responses.A A ;-)
A A >>A A A A A Terry
A A >>A A A A A "A Purple Heart proves you were smart enough to
hatch a
A A plan,
A A >>A A A A A stupid enough to try it and lucky enough to
survive!"
A A >>A A A A A Terry W. Himes
A A >>A A A A A JPL Jet Propulsion Laboratory
A A >>A A A A A Dawn Spacecraft Team
A A >>A A A A A Rosetta Sequence Team Lead
A A >>A A A A A Phone: (818) 393-6261
A A >>A A A A A Cell:A A A (818) 653-8213
A A >>A A A A A Fax:A A A (818) 393-3147
A A >>A A A A A [2][221]thimes at jpl.nasa.gov<mailto:[222]
thimes at jpl.nasa.gov>
A A >>A A A A A From: DeTomaso
A A >>
A A <[3][223]detomaso-bounces at server.
detomasolist.com<mailto:[224]detomaso-bounces at se
A A >>A A [225]rver.detomasolist.com>> on behalf
A A >>A A A A A of Jack Donahue
A A >>A A <[4][226]demongusta at gmail.com<
mailto:[227]demongusta at gmail.com>>
A A >>A A A A A Date: Friday, September 16, 2016 9:29 AM
A A >>A A A A A To:
A A >>
A A "[5][228]detomaso at server.detomasolist.com<mailto:[229]detoma
so at server.detomasolis
A A >>A A [230]t.com>"
A A >>
A A >>
A A <[6][231]detomaso at server.detomasolist.com<mailto:[232]detoma
so at server.detomasolis
A A >>A A [233]t.com>>
A A >>A A A A A Cc:
A A >>
A A "[7][234]detomaso at server.detomasolist.com<mailto:[235]detoma
so at server.detomasolis
A A >>A A [236]t.com>"
A A >>
A A >>
A A <[8][237]detomaso at server.detomasolist.com<mailto:[238]detoma
so at server.detomasolis
A A >>A A [239]t.com>>
A A >>A A A A A Subject: [DeTomaso] Fans and shroud
A A >>A A A A A Hey all - A few weeks ago I was talking asking
The List
A A >>A A A A A aboutA radiators - all said-and-done, I
decided on the Hall
A A >>A A radiator,
A A >>A A A A A since I wanted brass/copper instead of
aluminum.A And, yes
A A Mike
A A >>A A Drew, I
A A >>A A A A A have to admit it's because I want to, not
necessarily NEED
A A to. It
A A >>A A ain't
A A >>A A A A A broke, but I am fixing it(?). Didn't want to
admit that,
A A >>A A but...Lol.
A A >>A A A A A There really is an ulterior motive, but I just
don't want to
A A >>A A mention it
A A >>A A A A A right now; but I ran my idea pastA
BrassworksA - who says
A A they
A A >>A A will
A A >>A A A A A "build-to-suit" - but the Hall unit looks to be
A A >>A A "tried-and-proven".
A A >>A A A A A Now - fans. I really don't know the brand name
of my fans,
A A but
A A >>A A they are
A A >>A A A A A suckers - about 12" diameter - and the blades
are "curved"
A A -
A A >>A A A A A sickle-shaped. The names that been bouncing
around are
A A Mariah,
A A >>A A SPAL,
A A >>A A A A A and Flex-a-lite. I had read someone's post
about the
A A Flex-a-lite's
A A >>A A A A A since they said they can be - or are - mounted
in a shroud
A A that is
A A >>A A a
A A >>A A A A A perfect match for the Pantera radiator size. I
think. And
A A someone
A A >>A A A A A offered-upA a part number, but I deleted (or
lost) it. All
A A normal
A A >>A A for
A A >>A A A A A me.
A A >>A A A A A So - I am ready for opinions/suggestions:
A A >>A A A A A jack
A A >>A A A A A #4348
A A >>A A A A A _______________________________________________
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A A >>A A A A A 2. [32]mailto:[244]thimes at jpl.nasa.gov
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A A >>A A A A A 4. [34]mailto:[246]demongusta at gmail.com
A A >>A A A A A 5. [35]mailto:[247]detomaso at server.
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A A >>A A A A 10.
A A [40][252]http://server.detomasolist.com/mailman/
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A A >>A A ------------------------------
A A >>A A Message: 6
A A >>A A Date: Fri, 16 Sep 2016 10:17:31 -0700
A A >>A A From: Jack Donahue
A A <[253]demongusta at gmail.com<mailto:[254]demongusta at gmail.com>>
A A >>A A To: [255]GR2835 at comcast.net<[41]mailto:[256]
GR2835 at comcast.net>
A A >>A A Cc:
A A >>
A A "[257]detomaso at server.detomasolist.
com<mailto:[258]detomaso at server.detomasolist.c
A A >>A A om>"
A A >>
A A >>
A A <[259]detomaso at server.detomasolist.
com<mailto:[260]detomaso at server.detomasolist.c
A A >>A A om>>
A A >>A A Subject: Re: [DeTomaso] Fans and shroud
A A >>A A Message-ID:
A A >>
A A <[261]2334BABE-726C-4D16-85EA-
BB997B2B61CB at gmail.com<mailto:[262]2334BABE-726C-4D
A A >>A A [263]16-85EA-BB997B2B61CB at gmail.com>>
A A >>A A Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8
A A >>A A There-in lies one of my problems - I could never MAKE a
shroud. I
A A wish
A A >>A A I could - maybe out of foil-wrap. I will check out that
website,
A A >>A A thanks.
A A >>A A On Sep 16, 2016, at 10:07 AM,
A A >>A A [264]GR2835 at comcast.net<[42]mailto:[265]
GR2835 at comcast.net> wrote:
A A >>A A Pantera Electronics has recommended fans with part
numbers under
A A the
A A >>A A fan controller button on their website.
A A >>A A I have a stock radiator that was modified for lay down
and air
A A >>A A conditioning condenser up front........I have a fan
shroud that I
A A made
A A >>A A and mounted the 2 sucker fans. 192 thermostat ran 192
in a 14
A A mile
A A >>A A traffic jam last year that.took me 90 minutes to get
A A >>A A through.......temperature was 98 degrees leaving the
2015
A A Woodward
A A >>A A Cruise...........my wife complained that she was too
cold with
A A the air
A A >>A A set on the warmest setting.
A A >>A A Good luck
A A >>A A Gerry in Illinois
A A >>A A ----- Original Message -----
A A >>A A From: Jack Donahue
A A <[266]demongusta at gmail.com<mailto:[267]demongusta at gmail.com>>
A A >>A A To:
A A >>
A A [268]detomaso at server.detomasolist.
com<mailto:[269]detomaso at server.detomasolist.co
A A >>A A m>
A A >>A A Cc:
A A >>
A A [270]detomaso at server.detomasolist.
com<mailto:[271]detomaso at server.detomasolist.co
A A >>A A m>
A A >>A A Sent: Fri, 16 Sep 2016 16:29:46 -0000 (UTC)
A A >>A A Subject: [DeTomaso] Fans and shroud
A A >>A A Hey all - A few weeks ago I was talking asking The List
about
A A >>A A radiators - all said-and-done, I decided on the Hall
radiator,
A A since I
A A >>A A wanted brass/copper instead of aluminum.A And, yes
Mike Drew, I
A A have to
A A >>A A admit it?s because I want to, not necessarily NEED to.
It ain?t
A A broke,
A A >>A A but I am fixing it(?). Didn?t want to admit that,
but...Lol.
A A There
A A >>A A really is an ulterior motive, but I just don?t want to
mention it
A A right
A A >>A A now; but I ran my idea pastA BrassworksA - who says
they will
A A >>A A ?build-to-suit? - but the Hall unit looks to be
A A ?tried-and-proven?.
A A >>A A Now - fans. I really don?t know the brand name of my
fans, but
A A they are
A A >>A A suckers - about 12? diameter - and the blades are
?curved?A -
A A >>A A sickle-shaped. The names that been bouncing around are
Mariah,
A A SPAL,
A A >>A A and Flex-a-lite. I had read someone?s post about the
A A Flex-a-lite?s
A A >>A A since they said they can be - or are - mounted in a
shroud that
A A is a
A A >>A A perfect match for the Pantera radiator size. I think.
And someone
A A >>A A offered-upA a part number, but I deleted (or lost) it.
All normal
A A for
A A >>A A me.
A A >>A A So - I am ready for opinions/suggestions:
A A >>A A jack
A A >>A A #4348
A A >>A A _______________________________________________
A A >>A A Detomaso Email List is not managed by POCA
A A >>A A Posted emails must not exceed 1.5 Megabytes
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A A >>A A or approve the archiving of list messages.
A A >>A A ------------------------------
A A >>A A Message: 7
A A >>A A Date: Fri, 16 Sep 2016 11:24:26 -0700
A A >>A A From: Larry Stock
A A >>A A <[275]larrys at panteraparts.com<
mailto:[276]larrys at panteraparts.com>>
A A >>A A To: Jack Donahue
A A <[277]demongusta at gmail.com<mailto:[278]demongusta at gmail.com>>
A A >>A A Cc:
A A >>
A A "[279]detomaso at server.detomasolist.
com<mailto:[280]detomaso at server.detomasolist.c
A A >>A A om>"
A A >>
A A >>
A A <[281]detomaso at server.detomasolist.
com<mailto:[282]detomaso at server.detomasolist.c
A A >>A A om>>
A A >>A A Subject: Re: [DeTomaso] Fans and shroud
A A >>A A Message-ID:
A A >>
A A <[283]D4018324.17A0EF%larrys@
panteraparts.com<mailto:[284]D4018324.17A0EF%larrys@
A A >>A A [285]panteraparts.com>>
A A >>A A Content-Type: text/plain;A A A charset="ISO-8859-1"
A A >>A A Hi Jack,
A A >>A A You should be able to use the fans off the Fluidyne, if
not we
A A have our
A A >>A A Maridyne system fans and our own bracket kit and if you
need
A A shrouds
A A >>A A for a
A A >>A A full lie-down system, we have those too. Typically we
recommend
A A our
A A >>A A half
A A >>A A Lay forward system which minimizes the thru air
turbulence.
A A >>A A A A 11041B Defl. Rad. S.S. Lay down for kit $95.00
A A >>A A 11042B Stainless deflector right $65.00
A A >>A A 11043B Stainless deflector left $65.00
A A >>A A 11055B Radiator Puller Fan Shroud SS Mounting brackets
set of 3
A A $125.00
A A >>A A 11055P PPC Puller Fans & Shroud Assy $325.00
A A >>A A If the Hall Brass radiator has the stock quick 90
degree hard
A A radiator
A A >>A A tubes installed, you will not be able to mount a puller
fan
A A shroud
A A >>A A under
A A >>A A those tubes, if it has the straight out tubes then you
can use 90
A A >>A A degree
A A >>A A molded rubber hoses to clear the Puller shroud like
your
A A Fluidyne.
A A >>A A Larry Stock
A A >>A A Pantera Parts Connection LC
A A >>A A 550 Mallory Way
A A >>A A Carson City NV 89701
A A >>A A [44][286]www.PanteraParts.com<[287]http:
//www.PanteraParts.com>
A A >>A A PHA 775-283-4411
A A >>A A Fax 775-283-4410
A A >>A A Cell 1-800-DeTomaso 800-338-6627
A A >>A A On 9/16/16, 9:29 AM, "DeTomaso on behalf of Jack
Donahue"
A A >>
A A <[288]detomaso-bounces at server.
detomasolist.com<mailto:[289]detomaso-bounces at serve
A A >>A A [290]r.detomasolist.com> on behalf of
A A >>A A [291]demongusta at gmail.com<mailto:[292]de
mongusta at gmail.com>> wrote:
A A >>A A Hey all - A few weeks ago I was talking asking The List
about
A A >>A A radiators
A A >>A A - all said-and-done, I decided on the Hall radiator,
since I
A A wanted
A A >>A A brass/copper instead of aluminum.A And, yes Mike Drew,
I have to
A A admit
A A >>A A it?s because I want to, not necessarily NEED to. It
ain?t broke,
A A but I
A A >>A A am
A A >>A A fixing it(?). Didn?t want to admit that, but...Lol.
There really
A A is an
A A >>A A ulterior motive, but I just don?t want to mention it
right now;
A A but I
A A >>A A ran
A A >>A A my idea pastA BrassworksA - who says they will
?build-to-suit? -
A A but
A A >>A A the
A A >>A A Hall unit looks to be ?tried-and-proven?.
A A >>A A Now - fans. I really don?t know the brand name of my
fans, but
A A they are
A A >>A A suckers - about 12? diameter - and the blades are
?curved?A -
A A >>A A sickle-shaped. The names that been bouncing around are
Mariah,
A A SPAL,
A A >>A A and
A A >>A A Flex-a-lite. I had read someone?s post about the
Flex-a-lite?s
A A since
A A >>A A they
A A >>A A said they can be - or are - mounted in a shroud that is
a perfect
A A match
A A >>A A for the Pantera radiator size. I think. And someone
offered-upA a
A A part
A A >>A A number, but I deleted (or lost) it. All normal for me.
A A >>A A So - I am ready for opinions/suggestions:
A A >>A A jack
A A >>A A #4348
A A >>A A _______________________________________________
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A A >>A A ------------------------------
A A >>A A Message: 8
A A >>A A Date: Fri, 16 Sep 2016 14:09:55 -0500
A A >>A A From: Cullen McCann
A A >>A A <[296]cmccann1972 at gmail.com<mailto:[297]
cmccann1972 at gmail.com>>
A A >>A A To:
A A >>
A A [298]detomaso at server.detomasolist.
com<mailto:[299]detomaso at server.detomasolist.co
A A >>A A m>
A A >>A A Subject: [DeTomaso] McLeod hydraulic throw out
A A >>A A Message-ID:
A A >>
A A >>
A A <[300]CAFwr-MXfE-RBLar+qAHGPYYWnwSszwYufvAcAcUT2ngvZZ
1Aqg at mail.gmail.com<mai
A A >>
A A [301]lto:CAFwr-MXfE-RBLar+qAHGPYYWnwSszwYufvAcAcUT2ngvZZ
1Aqg at mail.gmail.com>
A A >>A A Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8"
A A >>A A Good afternoon!
A A >>A A Has anyone installed the McLeod hydraulic throwout
bearing that
A A they
A A >>A A say is
A A >>A A Pantera specific for the ZF, and what was your
experience? I've
A A had a
A A >>A A fantastic experience with them on another performance
car
A A application.
A A >>A A [46][302]https://www.summitracing.com/parts/mcl-1402-22
A A >>A A Thank you!!
A A >>A A -------------- next part --------------
A A >>A A A A A Good afternoon!
A A >>A A A A A Has anyone installed the McLeod hydraulic
throwout bearing
A A that
A A >>A A they
A A >>A A A A A say is Pantera specific for the ZF, and what
was your
A A experience?
A A >>A A I've
A A >>A A A A A had a fantastic experience with them on another
performance
A A car
A A >>A A A A A application.
A A >>A A A A A [1][303]https://www.summitracing.
com/parts/mcl-1402-22
A A >>A A A A A Thank you!!
A A >>A A References
A A >>A A A A A 1. [47][304]https://www.summitracing.
com/parts/mcl-1402-22
A A >>A A ------------------------------
A A >>A A Message: 9
A A >>A A Date: Fri, 16 Sep 2016 19:27:46 +0000 (UTC)
A A >>A A From: Ken Green
A A <[305]kenn_green at yahoo.com<mailto:[306]kenn_green at yahoo.com>>
A A >>A A To: Jack Donahue
A A <[307]demongusta at gmail.com<mailto:[308]demongusta at gmail.com>>,
A A >>
A A >>
A A "[309]detomaso at server.detomasolist.
com<mailto:[310]detomaso at server.detomasolist.c
A A >>A A om>"
A A >>
A A <[311]detomaso at server.detomasolist.
com<mailto:[312]detomaso at server.detomasolist.c
A A >>A A om>>
A A >>A A Subject: Re: [DeTomaso] Fans and shroud
A A >>A A Message-ID:
A A >>
A A <[313]1796334072.2409059.1474054066544 at mail.yahoo.com<
mailto:[314]1796334072.2409
A A >>A A [315]059.1474054066544 at mail.yahoo.com>>
A A >>A A Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8"
A A >>A A Jack,
A A >>A A ??? You should be able to find the fan and shroud here:
A A >>
A A [48][316]https://www.flex-a-lite.com/electric-fans/12-volt-
electric-fans/uni
A A >>A A versal/primary-fans.html
A A >>A A A A A A From: Jack Donahue
A A >>A A <[317]demongusta at gmail.com<mailto:[318]d
emongusta at gmail.com>>
A A >>A A A A To:
A A >>
A A "[319]detomaso at server.detomasolist.
com<mailto:[320]detomaso at server.detomasolist.c
A A >>A A om>"
A A >>
A A <[321]detomaso at server.detomasolist.
com<mailto:[322]detomaso at server.detomasolist.c
A A >>A A om>>
A A >>A A Cc:
A A >>
A A "[323]detomaso at server.detomasolist.
com<mailto:[324]detomaso at server.detomasolist.c
A A >>A A om>"
A A >>
A A <[325]detomaso at server.detomasolist.
com<mailto:[326]detomaso at server.detomasolist.c
A A >>A A om>>
A A >>A A A A Sent: Friday, September 16, 2016 9:29 AM
A A >>A A A A Subject: [DeTomaso] Fans and shroud
A A >>A A Hey all - A few weeks ago I was talking asking The List
about?
A A >>A A radiators - all said-and-done, I decided on the Hall
radiator,
A A since I
A A >>A A wanted brass/copper instead of aluminum.? And, yes Mike
Drew, I
A A have to
A A >>A A admit it?s because I want to, not necessarily NEED to.
It ain?t
A A broke,
A A >>A A but I am fixing it(?). Didn?t want to admit that,
but...Lol.
A A There
A A >>A A really is an ulterior motive, but I just don?t want to
mention it
A A right
A A >>A A now; but I ran my idea past? Brassworks? - who says
they will
A A >>A A ?build-to-suit? - but the Hall unit looks to be
A A ?tried-and-proven?.
A A >>A A Now - fans. I really don?t know the brand name of my
fans, but
A A they are
A A >>A A suckers - about 12? diameter - and the blades are
?curved?? -
A A >>A A sickle-shaped. The names that been bouncing around are
Mariah,
A A SPAL,
A A >>A A and Flex-a-lite. I had read someone?s post about the
A A Flex-a-lite?s
A A >>A A since they said they can be - or are - mounted in a
shroud that
A A is a
A A >>A A perfect match for the Pantera radiator size. I think.
And someone
A A >>A A offered-up? a part number, but I deleted (or lost) it.
All normal
A A for
A A >>A A me.
A A >>A A So - I am ready for opinions/suggestions:
A A >>A A jack
A A >>A A #4348
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A A >>A A A A A Jack,
A A >>A A A A A A A You should be able to find the fan and
shroud here:
A A >>
A A >>
A A [1][330]https://www.flex-a-lite.com/electric-fans/12-volt-
electric-fans/univ
A A >>A A A A A ersal/primary-fans.html
A A >>
A A >>
A A ____________________________________________________________
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A A >>A A A A A From: Jack Donahue
A A >>A A <[331]demongusta at gmail.com<mailto:[332]d
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A A >>A A A A A To:
A A >>
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com<mailto:[334]detomaso at server.detomasolist.c
A A >>A A om>"
A A >>
A A >>
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A A >>A A om>>
A A >>A A A A A Sent: Friday, September 16, 2016 9:29 AM
A A >>A A A A A Subject: [DeTomaso] Fans and shroud
A A >>A A A A A Hey all - A few weeks ago I was talking asking
The List
A A about
A A >>A A A A A radiators - all said-and-done, I decided on the
Hall
A A radiator,
A A >>A A since I
A A >>A A A A A wanted brass/copper instead of aluminum.A And,
yes Mike
A A Drew, I
A A >>A A have to
A A >>A A A A A admit itas because I want to, not necessarily
NEED to. It
A A ainat
A A >>A A broke,
A A >>A A A A A but I am fixing it(?). Didnat want to admit
that, but...Lol.
A A There
A A >>A A A A A really is an ulterior motive, but I just donat
want to
A A mention it
A A >>A A right
A A >>A A A A A now; but I ran my idea pastA BrassworksA -
who says they
A A will
A A >>A A A A A abuild-to-suita - but the Hall unit looks to be
A A >>A A atried-and-provena.
A A >>A A A A A Now - fans. I really donat know the brand name
of my fans,
A A but
A A >>A A they are
A A >>A A A A A suckers - about 12a diameter - and the blades
are acurveda
A A -
A A >>A A A A A sickle-shaped. The names that been bouncing
around are
A A Mariah,
A A >>A A SPAL,
A A >>A A A A A and Flex-a-lite. I had read someoneas post
about the
A A Flex-a-liteas
A A >>A A A A A since they said they can be - or are - mounted
in a shroud
A A that is
A A >>A A a
A A >>A A A A A perfect match for the Pantera radiator size. I
think. And
A A someone
A A >>A A A A A offered-upA a part number, but I deleted (or
lost) it. All
A A normal
A A >>A A for
A A >>A A A A A me.
A A >>A A A A A So - I am ready for opinions/suggestions:
A A >>A A A A A jack
A A >>A A A A A #4348
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A A >>A A A A A 1.
A A >>
A A [50][344]https://www.flex-a-lite.com/electric-fans/12-volt-
electric-fans/uni
A A >>A A versal/primary-fans.html
A A >>A A A A A 2. [51]mailto:[345]DeTomaso at server.
detomasolist.com
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A A >>A A ------------------------------
A A >>A A Message: 10
A A >>A A Date: Fri, 16 Sep 2016 12:35:17 -0700
A A >>A A From: Larry Finch
A A <[347]fresnofinches at aol.com<mailto:[348]fresnofinches at aol.com>>
A A >>A A To: Email List Address For Posting
A A >>
A A <[349]detomaso at server.detomasolist.
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A A >>A A om>>
A A >>A A Subject: [DeTomaso]A McLeod hydraulic throw out
A A >>A A Message-ID:
A A >>
A A <[351]6C366701-6502-47C0-A0DC-
59494515D156 at aol.com<mailto:[352]6C366701-6502-47C0
A A >>A A -[353]A0DC-59494515D156 at aol.com>>
A A >>A A Content-Type: text/plain;A A A charset=utf-8
A A >>A A Cullen,
A A >>A A 2511 came equipped with one of those from Dennis when I
purchased
A A it in
A A >>A A 2002. Since then I have rebuilt the unit twice (three?)
and most
A A >>A A recently did so using what I believe to be their
current
A A offering. I
A A >>A A spoke with and ordered directly from McLeod.
A A >>A A My opinion, in brief, is a very simple "NO!!"
A A >>A A The current offering was shipped to me with an
incorrect input
A A snout
A A >>A A spacer (I solved that by using the old spacer which
luckily I
A A still had
A A >>A A on hand), and the stainless steel input line, due to
its 90?
A A fitting
A A >>A A where one should have used a 45? fitting, twisted
itself, unseen
A A of
A A >>A A course, within the bell housing when it was connected
to the hard
A A line
A A >>A A attached to the chassis rails. Even stainless steel
lines don't
A A hold up
A A >>A A very long against grinding by a pressure plate.
A A >>A A The stainless steel bleed line is about 4 inches too
long,
A A sticking
A A >>A A outside the bell housing in a terrible display of ugly.
A A >>A A Finally, my last experience started with me ordering
the same
A A rebuild
A A >>A A kit I had previously used, using the same number off of
the
A A previous
A A >>A A invoice. What I received from them was the rebuild kit
for the
A A current
A A >>A A unit which uses an entirely different set of all rings.
I
A A ultimately
A A >>A A determined that for all three generations of their
hydraulic
A A bearing
A A >>A A McLeod has used exactly the same rebuild kit part
number. They
A A added no
A A >>A A suffix such as a ? A or a ?B which to me seems
indicative of a
A A problem
A A >>A A within the company. No, they no longer support a
rebuild kit for
A A the
A A >>A A first two generations.
A A >>A A While you have some experience in using one of these
previously,
A A the
A A >>A A task of establishing proper free play and clearances is
quite
A A exacting
A A >>A A and unforgiving. If you get it wrong there is nothing
left to do
A A but
A A >>A A pull the transaxle and start all over again.
A A >>A A The unit I have is now adjusted for the factory
shortcomings and
A A as has
A A >>A A been my experience for over 50,000 miles, the system
works just
A A fine.
A A >>A A Dennis however no longer recommends their installation
and based
A A on my
A A >>A A experience I would not encourage any other owners to
venture down
A A that
A A >>A A road for themselves.
A A >>A A Feel free to reach out to me off-line or by phone for
more of the
A A gory
A A >>A A details.
A A >>A A Larry
A A >>A A Sent from me using a magic, handheld electronic gizmo.
A A >>A A ------------------------------
A A >>A A Message: 11
A A >>A A Date: Fri, 16 Sep 2016 12:50:41 -0700
A A >>A A From: MyCars <[354]mycars at comcast.net<mailto:[355]myc
ars at comcast.net>>
A A >>A A To: LSJ <[356]lashdeep at yahoo.com<mailto:[357]las
hdeep at yahoo.com>>,
A A >>
A A "[358]detomaso at server.detomasolist.
com<mailto:[359]detomaso at server.detomasolist.c
A A >>A A om>"
A A >>
A A >>
A A <[360]detomaso at server.detomasolist.
com<mailto:[361]detomaso at server.detomasolist.c
A A >>A A om>>
A A >>A A Subject: Re: [DeTomaso] Tires for Grp IV Flared Car
A A >>A A Message-ID:
A A >>
A A <[362]37e8f14d-dde9-3ce5-f312-4dd9b1c3f234 at comcast.net<
mailto:[363]37e8f14d-dde9-
A A >>A A [364]3ce5-f312-4dd9b1c3f234 at comcast.net>>
A A >>A A Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8";
Format="flowed"
A A >>A A Going off memory (my car is still in Seattle) I am in
San Diego
A A area.
A A >>A A They are 15" Aluminum Weld 5-spoke rims, that I believe
are about
A A 9.5"
A A >>A A wide.
A A >>A A On 9/16/2016 10:08 AM, LSJ wrote:
A A >>A A What size wheel up front?
A A >>A A LSJ
A A >>A A /*central */
A A >>A A /*wines-spiritsA A est 1934
A A >>A A */
A A >>A A /*
A A >>A A */
A A >>A A /*625 e street nw
A A >>A A */
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A A >>A A /*
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A A >>A A */
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A A <[54][368]http://facebook.com/CentralLiquors>
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A A >>
A A ------------------------------------------------------------
-----------
A A >>A A -
A A >>A A *From:* MyCars <[369]mycars at comcast.net<mailto:[370]myc
ars at comcast.net>>
A A >>A A *To:*
A A >>
A A [371]detomaso at server.detomasolist.
com<mailto:[372]detomaso at server.detomasolist.co
A A >>A A m>
A A >>A A *Sent:* Friday, September 16, 2016 1:03 PM
A A >>A A *Subject:* [DeTomaso] Tires for Grp IV Flared Car
A A >>A A I just bought 345-35 R15 Pirelli Asimmetrico (24.8"
tall) tires
A A for the
A A >>A A rear and wondering what would be a good match for the
front.
A A >>A A I found 225-50 R15 Pirelli P Zero Trofeo R (23.9"
tall). This
A A would
A A >>A A give
A A >>A A the car a bit of rake, but what would the handling be
like?
A A >>A A Thanks in advance for your thoughts
A A >>A A Roy
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A A >>A A A A A Going off memory (my car is still in Seattle) I
am in San
A A Diego
A A >>A A area.
A A >>A A A A A They are 15" Aluminum Weld 5-spoke rims, that I
believe are
A A about
A A >>A A 9.5"
A A >>A A A A A wide.
A A >>A A A A A On 9/16/2016 10:08 AM, LSJ wrote:
A A >>A A A A A What size wheel up front?
A A >>A A A A A LSJ
A A >>A A A A A central
A A >>A A A A A wines-spiritsA A est 1934
A A >>A A A A A 625 e street nw
A A >>A A A A A washington, dc 20004
A A >>A A A A A [1][377]centralwines.com
A A >>A A A A A [2][378]facebook.com/CentralLiquors
A A >>A A A A A 202-737-2800
A A >>
A A >>
A A ____________________________________________________________
______
A A >>A A A A A From: MyCars
A A [3]<[379]mycars at comcast.net<mailto:[380]mycars at comcast.net>>
A A >>A A A A A To:
A A >>
A A [4][381]detomaso at server.detomasolist.com<mailto:[382]detoma
so at server.detomasolist
A A >>A A .com>
A A >>A A A A A Sent: Friday, September 16, 2016 1:03 PM
A A >>A A A A A Subject: [DeTomaso] Tires for Grp IV Flared Car
A A >>A A A A A I just bought 345-35 R15 Pirelli Asimmetrico
(24.8" tall)
A A tires
A A >>A A for the
A A >>A A A A A rear and wondering what would be a good match
for the front.
A A >>A A A A A I found 225-50 R15 Pirelli P Zero Trofeo R
(23.9" tall).
A A This
A A >>A A would
A A >>A A A A A give
A A >>A A A A A the car a bit of rake, but what would the
handling be like?
A A >>A A A A A Thanks in advance for your thoughts
A A >>A A A A A Roy
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A A >>A A A A A 2. [58][387]http://facebook.com/CentralLiquors
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A A >>A A A A A 4. [60]mailto:[389]detomaso at server.
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A A >>A A ------------------------------
A A >>A A Message: 12
A A >>A A Date: Fri, 16 Sep 2016 13:00:36 -0700
A A >>A A From: MyCars <[392]mycars at comcast.net<mailto:[393]myc
ars at comcast.net>>
A A >>A A To:
A A >>
A A [394]detomaso at server.detomasolist.
com<mailto:[395]detomaso at server.detomasolist.co
A A >>A A m>
A A >>A A Subject: Re: [DeTomaso] Tires for Grp IV Flared Car
A A >>A A Message-ID:
A A >>
A A <[396]013ad905-7f93-99e8-761f-878f602ee6cb at comcast.net<
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A A >>A A [398]99e8-761f-878f602ee6cb at comcast.net>>
A A >>A A Content-Type: text/plain; charset="windows-1252";
Format="flowed"
A A >>A A I just checked Weld's website
A A >>
A A [63][399]http://weldwheels.com/shop/street-strip/sport-
forged-wheels/prostar
A A >>A A .html
A A >>A A They do not offer a 15" rim 9.5" wide, so I would guess
they are
A A 9"
A A >>A A wide
A A >>A A On 9/16/2016 12:50 PM, MyCars wrote:
A A >>A A A A A Going off memory (my car is still in Seattle)
I am in San
A A Diego
A A >>A A area.
A A >>A A A A A They are 15" Aluminum Weld 5-spoke rims, that
I believe are
A A about
A A >>A A 9.5"
A A >>A A A A A wide.
A A >>A A A A A On 9/16/2016 10:08 AM, LSJ wrote:
A A >>A A A A A What size wheel up front?
A A >>A A A A A LSJ
A A >>A A A A A central
A A >>A A A A A wines-spiritsA A est 1934
A A >>A A A A A 625 e street nw
A A >>A A A A A washington, dc 20004
A A >>A A A A A [1][400]centralwines.com
A A >>A A A A A [2][401]facebook.com/CentralLiquors
A A >>A A A A A 202-737-2800
A A >>
A A >>
A A ____________________________________________________________
______
A A >>A A A A A From: MyCars
A A [3]<[402]mycars at comcast.net<mailto:[403]mycars at comcast.net>>
A A >>A A A A A To:
A A >>
A A [4][404]detomaso at server.detomasolist.com<mailto:[405]detoma
so at server.detomasolist
A A >>A A .com>
A A >>A A A A A Sent: Friday, September 16, 2016 1:03 PM
A A >>A A A A A Subject: [DeTomaso] Tires for Grp IV Flared
Car
A A >>A A A A A I just bought 345-35 R15 Pirelli Asimmetrico
(24.8" tall)
A A tires
A A >>A A for the
A A >>A A A A A rear and wondering what would be a good match
for the
A A front.
A A >>A A A A A I found 225-50 R15 Pirelli P Zero Trofeo R
(23.9" tall).
A A This
A A >>A A would
A A >>A A A A A give
A A >>A A A A A the car a bit of rake, but what would the
handling be like?
A A >>A A A A A Thanks in advance for your thoughts
A A >>A A A A A Roy
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A A >>A A A A A I just checked Weld's website
A A >>
A A >>
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A A >>A A A A A They do not offer a 15" rim 9.5" wide, so I
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A A >>A A A A A I just bought 345-35 R15 Pirelli Asimmetrico
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A A tires
A A >>A A for the
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A A >>A A A A A I found 225-50 R15 Pirelli P Zero Trofeo R
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A A >>A A ------------------------------
A A >>A A Message: 13
A A >>A A Date: Fri, 16 Sep 2016 16:26:27 -0400
A A >>A A From: Will Kooiman
A A >>A A <[455]will.kooiman at gmail.com<
mailto:[456]will.kooiman at gmail.com>>
A A >>A A To: Larry Finch
A A <[457]fresnofinches at aol.com<mailto:[458]
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A A <[459]detomaso at server.detomasolist.
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A A >>A A om>>
A A >>A A Subject: Re: [DeTomaso] McLeod hydraulic throw out
A A >>A A Message-ID:
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A A <[461]D401CD29.16A666%will.kooiman@
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A A >>A A Content-Type: text/plain;A A A charset="ISO-8859-1"
A A >>A A Wow.
A A >>A A I have one in my Cobra, and so far it has worked
perfectly.
A A >>A A My Cobra came with an external slave from a Volvo that
was
A A readily
A A >>A A available 20 years ago, but is now unobtanium.A Rather
than
A A building a
A A >>A A new
A A >>A A bracket for a different slave, I switched to a McLeod
slave.
A A >>A A At any rate, as I said, it has worked perfectly - so
far.
A A >>A A --
A A >>A A Will
A A >>A A On 9/16/16 3:35 PM, "Larry Finch via DeTomaso"
A A >>
A A <[464]detomaso at server.detomasolist.
com<mailto:[465]detomaso at server.detomasolist.c
A A >>A A om>> wrote:
A A >>A A Cullen,
A A >>A A 2511 came equipped with one of those from Dennis when I
purchased
A A it in
A A >>A A 2002. Since then I have rebuilt the unit twice (three?)
and most
A A >>A A recently
A A >>A A did so using what I believe to be their current
offering. I spoke
A A with
A A >>A A and ordered directly from McLeod.
A A >>A A My opinion, in brief, is a very simple "NO!!"
A A >>A A The current offering was shipped to me with an
incorrect input
A A snout
A A >>A A spacer (I solved that by using the old spacer which
luckily I
A A still had
A A >>A A on hand), and the stainless steel input line, due to
its 90?
A A fitting
A A >>A A where one should have used a 45? fitting, twisted
itself, unseen
A A of
A A >>A A course, within the bell housing when it was connected
to the hard
A A line
A A >>A A attached to the chassis rails. Even stainless steel
lines don't
A A hold up
A A >>A A very long against grinding by a pressure plate.
A A >>A A The stainless steel bleed line is about 4 inches too
long,
A A sticking
A A >>A A outside the bell housing in a terrible display of ugly.
A A >>A A Finally, my last experience started with me ordering
the same
A A rebuild
A A >>A A kit
A A >>A A I had previously used, using the same number off of the
previous
A A >>A A invoice.
A A >>A A What I received from them was the rebuild kit for the
current
A A unit
A A >>A A which
A A >>A A uses an entirely different set of all rings. I
ultimately
A A determined
A A >>A A that
A A >>A A for all three generations of their hydraulic bearing
McLeod has
A A used
A A >>A A exactly the same rebuild kit part number. They added no
suffix
A A such as
A A >>A A a
A A >>A A ? A or a ?B which to me seems indicative of a problem
within the
A A >>A A company.
A A >>A A No, they no longer support a rebuild kit for the first
two
A A generations.
A A >>A A While you have some experience in using one of these
previously,
A A the
A A >>A A task
A A >>A A of establishing proper free play and clearances is
quite exacting
A A and
A A >>A A unforgiving. If you get it wrong there is nothing left
to do but
A A pull
A A >>A A the
A A >>A A transaxle and start all over again.
A A >>A A The unit I have is now adjusted for the factory
shortcomings and
A A as has
A A >>A A been my experience for over 50,000 miles, the system
works just
A A fine.
A A >>A A Dennis however no longer recommends their installation
and based
A A on my
A A >>A A experience I would not encourage any other owners to
venture down
A A that
A A >>A A road for themselves.
A A >>A A Feel free to reach out to me off-line or by phone for
more of the
A A gory
A A >>A A details.
A A >>A A Larry
A A >>A A Sent from me using a magic, handheld electronic gizmo.
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A A >>A A Message: 14
A A >>A A Date: Fri, 16 Sep 2016 15:50:41 -0500
A A >>A A From: Cullen McCann
A A >>A A <[469]cmccann1972 at gmail.com<mailto:[470]
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A A >>A A A A A A Larry Finch
A A >>A A <[475]fresnofinches at aol.com<mailto:[476]
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A A >>A A Subject: Re: [DeTomaso] McLeod hydraulic throw out
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A A >>A A Thank you Larry. You answered my question perfectly. I
am like
A A Will, I
A A >>A A have
A A >>A A one on my Cobra as well, with a ford Top Loader and its
been
A A there for
A A >>A A several years and Ive always loved it. I actually
bought one that
A A was
A A >>A A "new"
A A >>A A but several generations old, and when I called McLeod
to inquire
A A about
A A >>A A fresh O-rings, they sent me a brand new unit just to
"ensure a
A A positive
A A >>A A experience". I installed it with a performance clutch
and a
A A >>A A scattershield,
A A >>A A bled it according to the instructions and that was
about 4 years
A A ago.
A A >>A A Havent had a lick of trouble.A (knocking on wood now).
A A >>A A the frame rails on my cobra are 24" apart and I
couldn't fit the
A A clutch
A A >>A A fork between the side of the bellhousing and the frame
rail, and
A A ive
A A >>A A had a
A A >>A A bad experience with performance clutches and cables
breaking in
A A the
A A >>A A past...so I went the hydraulic route and have loved it.
A A >>A A however... I will certainly consider carefully this
drama as I
A A set up
A A >>A A my P
A A >>A A car. I have a plan B with an external slave also, if I
choose not
A A to
A A >>A A use
A A >>A A the factory unit.A Thank you sir.
A A >>A A Cullen
A A >>A A On Fri, Sep 16, 2016 at 3:26 PM, Will Kooiman
A A >>A A <[479]will.kooiman at gmail.com<
mailto:[480]will.kooiman at gmail.com>>
A A >>A A wrote:
A A >>A A Wow.
A A >>A A I have one in my Cobra, and so far it has worked
perfectly.
A A >>A A My Cobra came with an external slave from a Volvo that
was
A A readily
A A >>A A available 20 years ago, but is now unobtanium.A Rather
than
A A building a
A A >>A A new
A A >>A A bracket for a different slave, I switched to a McLeod
slave.
A A >>A A At any rate, as I said, it has worked perfectly - so
far.
A A >>A A --
A A >>A A Will
A A >>A A On 9/16/16 3:35 PM, "Larry Finch via DeTomaso"
A A >>
A A <[481]detomaso at server.detomasolist.
com<mailto:[482]detomaso at server.detomasolist.c
A A >>A A om>> wrote:
A A >>A A Cullen,
A A >>A A 2511 came equipped with one of those from Dennis when I
purchased
A A it in
A A >>A A 2002. Since then I have rebuilt the unit twice (three?)
and most
A A >>A A recently
A A >>A A did so using what I believe to be their current
offering. I spoke
A A with
A A >>A A and ordered directly from McLeod.
A A >>A A My opinion, in brief, is a very simple "NO!!"
A A >>A A The current offering was shipped to me with an
incorrect input
A A snout
A A >>A A spacer (I solved that by using the old spacer which
luckily I
A A still had
A A >>A A on hand), and the stainless steel input line, due to
its 90?
A A fitting
A A >>A A where one should have used a 45? fitting, twisted
itself, unseen
A A of
A A >>A A course, within the bell housing when it was connected
to the hard
A A line
A A >>A A attached to the chassis rails. Even stainless steel
lines don't
A A hold up
A A >>A A very long against grinding by a pressure plate.
A A >>A A The stainless steel bleed line is about 4 inches too
long,
A A sticking
A A >>A A outside the bell housing in a terrible display of ugly.
A A >>A A Finally, my last experience started with me ordering
the same
A A rebuild
A A >>A A kit
A A >>A A I had previously used, using the same number off of the
previous
A A >>A A invoice.
A A >>A A What I received from them was the rebuild kit for the
current
A A unit
A A >>A A which
A A >>A A uses an entirely different set of all rings. I
ultimately
A A determined
A A >>A A that
A A >>A A for all three generations of their hydraulic bearing
McLeod has
A A used
A A >>A A exactly the same rebuild kit part number. They added no
suffix
A A such as
A A >>A A a
A A >>A A ? A or a ?B which to me seems indicative of a problem
within the
A A >>A A company.
A A >>A A No, they no longer support a rebuild kit for the first
two
A A generations.
A A >>A A While you have some experience in using one of these
previously,
A A the
A A >>A A task
A A >>A A of establishing proper free play and clearances is
quite exacting
A A and
A A >>A A unforgiving. If you get it wrong there is nothing left
to do but
A A pull
A A >>A A the
A A >>A A transaxle and start all over again.
A A >>A A The unit I have is now adjusted for the factory
shortcomings and
A A as has
A A >>A A been my experience for over 50,000 miles, the system
works just
A A fine.
A A >>A A Dennis however no longer recommends their installation
and based
A A on my
A A >>A A experience I would not encourage any other owners to
venture down
A A that
A A >>A A road for themselves.
A A >>A A Feel free to reach out to me off-line or by phone for
more of the
A A gory
A A >>A A details.
A A >>A A Larry
A A >>A A Sent from me using a magic, handheld electronic gizmo.
A A >>A A _______________________________________________
A A >>A A Detomaso Email List is not managed by POCA
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A A >>A A A A A Thank you Larry. You answered my question
perfectly. I am
A A like
A A >>A A Will, I
A A >>A A A A A have one on my Cobra as well, with a ford Top
Loader and its
A A been
A A >>A A there
A A >>A A A A A for several years and Ive always loved it. I
actually bought
A A one
A A >>A A that
A A >>A A A A A was "new" but several generations old, and when
I called
A A McLeod to
A A >>A A A A A inquire about fresh O-rings, they sent me a
brand new unit
A A just to
A A >>A A A A A "ensure a positive experience". I installed it
with a
A A performance
A A >>A A A A A clutch and a scattershield, bled it according
to the
A A instructions
A A >>A A and
A A >>A A A A A that was about 4 years ago. Havent had a lick
of trouble.A
A A >>A A (knocking
A A >>A A A A A on wood now).
A A >>A A A A A the frame rails on my cobra are 24" apart and I
couldn't fit
A A the
A A >>A A clutch
A A >>A A A A A fork between the side of the bellhousing and
the frame rail,
A A and
A A >>A A ive
A A >>A A A A A had a bad experience with performance clutches
and cables
A A breaking
A A >>A A in
A A >>A A A A A the past...so I went the hydraulic route and
have loved it.
A A >>A A A A A however... I will certainly consider carefully
this drama as
A A I set
A A >>A A up
A A >>A A A A A my P car. I have a plan B with an external
slave also, if I
A A choose
A A >>A A not
A A >>A A A A A to use the factory unit.AA Thank you sir.
A A >>A A A A A Cullen
A A >>A A A A A On Fri, Sep 16, 2016 at 3:26 PM, Will Kooiman
A A >>A A A A A <[1][489]will.kooiman at gmail.com<
mailto:[490]will.kooiman at gmail.com>>
A A wrote:
A A >>A A A A A A Wow.
A A >>A A A A A A I have one in my Cobra, and so far it has
worked
A A perfectly.
A A >>A A A A A A My Cobra came with an external slave from a
Volvo that was
A A >>A A readily
A A >>A A A A A A available 20 years ago, but is now
unobtanium.AA Rather
A A than
A A >>A A A A A A building a new
A A >>A A A A A A bracket for a different slave, I switched to
a McLeod
A A slave.
A A >>A A A A A A At any rate, as I said, it has worked
perfectly - so far.
A A >>A A A A A A --
A A >>A A A A A A Will
A A >>A A A A A A On 9/16/16 3:35 PM, "Larry Finch via
DeTomaso"
A A >>
A A >>
A A <[2][491]detomaso at server.detomasolist.com<mailto:[492]detoma
so at server.detomasolis
A A >>A A [493]t.com>> wrote:
A A >>> Cullen,
A A >>>
A A >>> 2511 came equipped with one of those from Dennis when I
purchased
A A >>A A it
A A >>A A A A A in
A A >>> 2002. Since then I have rebuilt the unit twice (three?) and
most
A A >>A A A A A recently
A A >>> did so using what I believe to be their current offering. I
spoke
A A >>A A with
A A >>> and ordered directly from McLeod.
A A >>>
A A >>> My opinion, in brief, is a very simple "NO!!"
A A >>>
A A >>> The current offering was shipped to me with an incorrect
input
A A >>A A snout
A A >>> spacer (I solved that by using the old spacer which luckily
I
A A >>A A still
A A >>A A A A A had
A A >>> on hand), and the stainless steel input line, due to its
90ADEG
A A >>A A A A A fitting
A A >>> where one should have used a 45ADEG fitting, twisted
itself,
A A >>A A unseen of
A A >>> course, within the bell housing when it was connected to
the hard
A A >>A A line
A A >>> attached to the chassis rails. Even stainless steel lines
don't
A A >>A A hold
A A >>A A A A A up
A A >>> very long against grinding by a pressure plate.
A A >>>
A A >>> The stainless steel bleed line is about 4 inches too long,
A A >>A A sticking
A A >>> outside the bell housing in a terrible display of ugly.
A A >>>
A A >>> Finally, my last experience started with me ordering the
same
A A >>A A rebuild
A A >>A A A A A kit
A A >>> I had previously used, using the same number off of the
previous
A A >>A A A A A invoice.
A A >>> What I received from them was the rebuild kit for the
current
A A >>A A unit
A A >>A A A A A which
A A >>> uses an entirely different set of all rings. I ultimately
A A >>A A determined
A A >>A A A A A that
A A >>> for all three generations of their hydraulic bearing McLeod
has
A A >>A A used
A A >>> exactly the same rebuild kit part number. They added no
suffix
A A >>A A such as
A A >>A A A A A a
A A >>> A A or a AB which to me seems indicative of a problem
within the
A A >>A A A A A company.
A A >>> No, they no longer support a rebuild kit for the first two
A A >>A A A A A generations.
A A >>>
A A >>> While you have some experience in using one of these
previously,
A A >>A A the
A A >>A A A A A task
A A >>> of establishing proper free play and clearances is quite
exacting
A A >>A A and
A A >>> unforgiving. If you get it wrong there is nothing left to
do but
A A >>A A pull
A A >>A A A A A the
A A >>> transaxle and start all over again.
A A >>>
A A >>> The unit I have is now adjusted for the factory
shortcomings and
A A >>A A as
A A >>A A A A A has
A A >>> been my experience for over 50,000 miles, the system works
just
A A >>A A fine.
A A >>> Dennis however no longer recommends their installation and
based
A A >>A A on my
A A >>> experience I would not encourage any other owners to
venture down
A A >>A A that
A A >>> road for themselves.
A A >>>
A A >>> Feel free to reach out to me off-line or by phone for more
of the
A A >>A A gory
A A >>> details.
A A >>>
A A >>> Larry
A A >>>
A A >>> Sent from me using a magic, handheld electronic gizmo.
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A A >>A A ------------------------------
A A >>A A Message: 15
A A >>A A Date: Fri, 16 Sep 2016 13:53:15 -0700
A A >>A A From: Larry Stock
A A >>A A <[507]larrys at panteraparts.com<
mailto:[508]larrys at panteraparts.com>>
A A >>A A To: Will Kooiman
A A >>A A <[509]will.kooiman at gmail.com<
mailto:[510]will.kooiman at gmail.com>>, Larry
A A Finch
A A >>A A A A A A <[511]fresnofinches at aol.com<mailto:[512]
fresnofinches at aol.com>>,
A A Email
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A A <[513]detomaso at server.detomasolist.
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A A >>A A om>>
A A >>A A Subject: Re: [DeTomaso] McLeod hydraulic throw out
A A >>A A Message-ID:
A A >>
A A <[515]D401A883.17A144%larrys@
panteraparts.com<mailto:[516]D401A883.17A144%larrys@
A A >>A A [517]panteraparts.com>>
A A >>A A Content-Type: text/plain;A A A charset="EUC-KR"
A A >>A A The basic problem is that the bell housing is too
confined and
A A not
A A >>A A ventilated well enough to dissipate the heat. The
Superformance
A A is
A A >>A A using a
A A >>A A Quick Time bell housing that has much more ventilation
than the
A A >>A A DeTomaso
A A >>A A Bell housing. Just another reason not to run those
Plugs that
A A some
A A >>A A vendors
A A >>A A offer, that close off the inspection hole at the left
hand top of
A A the
A A >>A A bell
A A >>A A housing. That is the only heat dissipation vent there
is.
A A >>A A Larry
A A >>A A On 9/16/16, 1:26 PM, "DeTomaso on behalf of Will
Kooiman"
A A >>
A A <[518]detomaso-bounces at server.
detomasolist.com<mailto:[519]detomaso-bounces at serve
A A >>A A [520]r.detomasolist.com> on behalf of
A A >>A A [521]will.kooiman at gmail.com<mailto:[522]
will.kooiman at gmail.com>> wrote:
A A >>A A Wow.
A A >>A A I have one in my Cobra, and so far it has worked
perfectly.
A A >>A A My Cobra came with an external slave from a Volvo that
was
A A readily
A A >>A A available 20 years ago, but is now unobtanium.A Rather
than
A A building a
A A >>A A new
A A >>A A bracket for a different slave, I switched to a McLeod
slave.
A A >>A A At any rate, as I said, it has worked perfectly - so
far.
A A >>A A --
A A >>A A Will
A A >>A A On 9/16/16 3:35 PM, "Larry Finch via DeTomaso"
A A >>
A A <[523]detomaso at server.detomasolist.
com<mailto:[524]detomaso at server.detomasolist.c
A A >>A A om>> wrote:
A A >>A A Cullen,
A A >>A A 2511 came equipped with one of those from Dennis when I
purchased
A A it in
A A >>A A 2002. Since then I have rebuilt the unit twice (three?)
and most
A A >>A A recently
A A >>A A did so using what I believe to be their current
offering. I spoke
A A with
A A >>A A and ordered directly from McLeod.
A A >>A A My opinion, in brief, is a very simple "NO!!"
A A >>A A The current offering was shipped to me with an
incorrect input
A A snout
A A >>A A spacer (I solved that by using the old spacer which
luckily I
A A still had
A A >>A A on hand), and the stainless steel input line, due to
its 90?
A A fitting
A A >>A A where one should have used a 45? fitting, twisted
itself, unseen
A A of
A A >>A A course, within the bell housing when it was connected
to the hard
A A line
A A >>A A attached to the chassis rails. Even stainless steel
lines don't
A A hold up
A A >>A A very long against grinding by a pressure plate.
A A >>A A The stainless steel bleed line is about 4 inches too
long,
A A sticking
A A >>A A outside the bell housing in a terrible display of ugly.
A A >>A A Finally, my last experience started with me ordering
the same
A A rebuild
A A >>A A kit
A A >>A A I had previously used, using the same number off of the
previous
A A >>A A invoice.
A A >>A A What I received from them was the rebuild kit for the
current
A A unit
A A >>A A which
A A >>A A uses an entirely different set of all rings. I
ultimately
A A determined
A A >>A A that
A A >>A A for all three generations of their hydraulic bearing
McLeod has
A A used
A A >>A A exactly the same rebuild kit part number. They added no
suffix
A A such as
A A >>A A a
A A >>A A ? A or a ?B which to me seems indicative of a problem
within the
A A >>A A company.
A A >>A A No, they no longer support a rebuild kit for the first
two
A A generations.
A A >>A A While you have some experience in using one of these
previously,
A A the
A A >>A A task
A A >>A A of establishing proper free play and clearances is
quite exacting
A A and
A A >>A A unforgiving. If you get it wrong there is nothing left
to do but
A A pull
A A >>A A the
A A >>A A transaxle and start all over again.
A A >>A A The unit I have is now adjusted for the factory
shortcomings and
A A as has
A A >>A A been my experience for over 50,000 miles, the system
works just
A A fine.
A A >>A A Dennis however no longer recommends their installation
and based
A A on my
A A >>A A experience I would not encourage any other owners to
venture down
A A that
A A >>A A road for themselves.
A A >>A A Feel free to reach out to me off-line or by phone for
more of the
A A gory
A A >>A A details.
A A >>A A Larry
A A >>A A Sent from me using a magic, handheld electronic gizmo.
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A A >>A A ------------------------------
A A >>A A Message: 16
A A >>A A Date: Fri, 16 Sep 2016 14:11:22 -0700
A A >>A A From: Mike Drew
<[531]MikeLDrew at aol.com<mailto:[532]MikeLDrew at aol.com>>
A A >>A A To: David Nunn <[533]dnunn at telus.net<mailto:[534]dnunn@
telus.net>>
A A >>A A Cc:
A A >>
A A "<[535]detomaso at server.detomasolist.com<mailto:[536]detoma
so at server.detomasolist.
A A >>A A com>>"
A A >>
A A >>
A A <[537]detomaso at server.detomasolist.
com<mailto:[538]detomaso at server.detomasolist.c
A A >>A A om>>
A A >>A A Subject: Re: [DeTomaso] Sanden Compressors noises
A A >>A A Message-ID:
A A >>
A A <[539]C4C5C3CB-D201-4825-A845-
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A A >>A A -[541]A845-85208C7B8B62 at aol.com>>
A A >>A A Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"
A A >>A A All,
A A >>A A Here is a photo of the IPSCO water pump idler pulley
setup. Note
A A there
A A >>A A is no alternator in view, as this car is fitted with a
flat
A A firewall
A A >>A A kit that moves the alternator outboard of the A/C
system.
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A A >>A A Mike
A A >>A A Sent from my iPhone
A A >>A A On Sep 15, 2016, at 15:41, "David Nunn"
A A >>A A <[543]dnunn at telus.net<mailto:[544]dnunn at telus.net>>
wrote:
A A >>A A A A Rob,
A A >>A A A A If I'm not mistaken, IPSCO sells a kit that
modifies Kirk's
A A kit. It
A A >>A A A A eliminates the "fitted", non-adjustable belt and
makes it
A A >>A A adjustable.
A A >>A A A A It sure makes installation a lot easier. It's not
listed on
A A IPSCO's
A A >>A A web
A A >>A A A A site so you have to call or e-mail to get
details.
A A >>A A A A Also, IPSCO has an idler pulley kit that makes
installation
A A and
A A >>A A belt
A A >>A A A A tensioning a breeze.
A A >>A A A A [1][545]http://www.ipsco.org/
Pantera%20Parts/Idler%20Pulley.htm
A A >>A A References
A A >>A A A A 1.
A A [96][546]http://www.ipsco.org/Pantera%20Parts/Idler%
20Pulley.htm
A A >>A A _______________________________________________
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A A >>A A ------------------------------
A A >>A A Message: 17
A A >>A A Date: Fri, 16 Sep 2016 21:16:34 +0000
A A >>A A From: Julian Kift
A A >>A A <[550]julian_kift at hotmail.com<
mailto:[551]julian_kift at hotmail.com>>
A A >>A A To: David Nunn <[552]dnunn at telus.net<mailto:[553]dnunn@
telus.net>>, Mike
A A Drew
A A >>A A <[554]MikeLDrew at aol.com<mailto:[555]Mike
LDrew at aol.com>>,
A A >>
A A >>
A A "[556]detomaso at server.detomasolist.
com<mailto:[557]detomaso at server.detomasolist.c
A A >>A A om>"
A A >>
A A <[558]detomaso at server.detomasolist.
com<mailto:[559]detomaso at server.detomasolist.c
A A >>A A om>>
A A >>A A Subject: Re: [DeTomaso] Sanden Compressors noises
A A >>A A Message-ID:
A A >>
A A >>
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A A [560]look.com<mailto:[561]CY4PR18MB12865
ADBFE3EEDECFFB644A895F30 at CY4PR18MB1286.na
A A >>A A [562]mprd18.prod.outlook.com>>
A A >>A A Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1"
A A >>A A Mike,
A A >>A A It gets even better, that looks to be a different idler
again,
A A the one
A A >>A A that was previously linked appears to go in the stock
location,
A A but was
A A >>A A adjustable from the front negating the usual need to
get a wrench
A A on
A A >>A A the rear.
A A >>A A Julian
A A >>A A ________________________________
A A >>A A From: DeTomaso
A A >>
A A <[563]detomaso-bounces at server.
detomasolist.com<mailto:[564]detomaso-bounces at serve
A A >>A A [565]r.detomasolist.com>> on behalf of Mike Drew via
DeTomaso
A A >>
A A <[566]detomaso at server.detomasolist.
com<mailto:[567]detomaso at server.detomasolist.c
A A >>A A om>>
A A >>A A Sent: Friday, September 16, 2016 2:11 PM
A A >>A A To: David Nunn
A A >>A A Cc:
A A >>
A A <[568]detomaso at server.detomasolist.
com<mailto:[569]detomaso at server.detomasolist.c
A A >>A A om>>
A A >>A A Subject: Re: [DeTomaso] Sanden Compressors noises
A A >>A A All,
A A >>A A Here is a photo of the IPSCO water pump idler pulley
setup. Note
A A there
A A >>A A is no alternator in view, as this car is fitted with a
flat
A A firewall
A A >>A A kit that moves the alternator outboard of the A/C
system.
A A >>
A A [[570]cid:da0fdac9-8741-4e03-b676-ebaa4760fb6f at namprd18.prod.
outlook.com<mai
A A >>
A A [571]lto:da0fdac9-8741-4e03-b676-ebaa4760fb6f at namprd18.prod.
outlook.com>]
A A >>A A Mike
A A >>A A Sent from my iPhone
A A >>A A On Sep 15, 2016, at 15:41, "David Nunn"
A A >>A A <[572]dnunn at telus.net<mailto:[573]dnunn at telus.net>>
wrote:
A A >>A A A A Rob,
A A >>A A A A If I'm not mistaken, IPSCO sells a kit that
modifies Kirk's
A A kit. It
A A >>A A A A eliminates the "fitted", non-adjustable belt and
makes it
A A >>A A adjustable.
A A >>A A A A It sure makes installation a lot easier. It's not
listed on
A A IPSCO's
A A >>A A web
A A >>A A A A site so you have to call or e-mail to get
details.
A A >>A A A A Also, IPSCO has an idler pulley kit that makes
installation
A A and
A A >>A A belt
A A >>A A A A tensioning a breeze.
A A >>A A A A [1][574]http://www.ipsco.org/
Pantera%20Parts/Idler%20Pulley.htm
A A >>A A References
A A >>A A A A 1.
A A [98][575]http://www.ipsco.org/Pantera%20Parts/Idler%
20Pulley.htm
A A >>
A A [[99][576]http://www.ipsco.org/Pantera%20Parts/Idler%
20Pulley.jpg]<[577]http://ww
A A >>A A [578]w.ipsco.org/Pantera%20Parts/Idler%20Pulley.htm>
A A >>A A Idler Pulley - IPSCO, Pantera, Viper, Mechanical
Parking
A A >>A A ...<[100][579]http://www.ipsco.org/
Pantera%20Parts/Idler%20Pulley.htm>
A A >>A A [580]www.ipsco.org<[101][581]http://www.ipsco.org>
A A >>A A Pantera Idler Pulley Assembly . Replacement for factory
Idler
A A Pulley,
A A >>A A this assembly allow adjustment without trying to hold a
wrench
A A behind
A A >>A A the bracket to tighten in ...
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A A >>A A A A A Mike,
A A >>A A A A A It gets even better, that looks to be a
different idler
A A again, the
A A >>A A one
A A >>A A A A A that was previously linked appears to go in the
stock
A A location,
A A >>A A but was
A A >>A A A A A adjustable from the front negating the usual
need to get a
A A wrench
A A >>A A on
A A >>A A A A A the rear.
A A >>A A A A A Julian
A A >>
A A >>
A A ____________________________________________________________
______
A A >>A A A A A From: DeTomaso
A A >>
A A <[588]detomaso-bounces at server.
detomasolist.com<mailto:[589]detomaso-bounces at serve
A A >>A A [590]r.detomasolist.com>> on behalf of
A A >>A A A A A Mike Drew via DeTomaso
A A >>
A A <[591]detomaso at server.detomasolist.
com<mailto:[592]detomaso at server.detomasolist.c
A A >>A A om>>
A A >>A A A A A Sent: Friday, September 16, 2016 2:11 PM
A A >>A A A A A To: David Nunn
A A >>A A A A A Cc:
A A >>
A A <[593]detomaso at server.detomasolist.
com<mailto:[594]detomaso at server.detomasolist.c
A A >>A A om>>
A A >>A A A A A Subject: Re: [DeTomaso] Sanden Compressors
noises
A A >>A A A A A All,
A A >>A A A A A Here is a photo of the IPSCO water pump idler
pulley setup.
A A Note
A A >>A A there
A A >>A A A A A is no alternator in view, as this car is fitted
with a flat
A A >>A A firewall
A A >>A A A A A kit that moves the alternator outboard of the
A/C system.
A A >>
A A >>
A A [[595]cid:da0fdac9-8741-4e03-b676-ebaa4760fb6f at namprd18.prod.
outlook.com<mai
A A >>
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A A >>A A A A A Mike
A A >>A A A A A Sent from my iPhone
A A >>A A A A A On Sep 15, 2016, at 15:41, "David Nunn"
A A >>A A <[597]dnunn at telus.net<mailto:[598]dnunn at telus.net>>
wrote:
A A >>>A Rob,
A A >>>
A A >>>A If I'm not mistaken, IPSCO sells a kit that modifies
Kirk's
A A >>A A kit. It
A A >>>A eliminates the "fitted", non-adjustable belt and makes it
A A >>A A A A A adjustable.
A A >>>A It sure makes installation a lot easier. It's not listed
on
A A >>A A IPSCO's
A A >>A A A A A web
A A >>>A site so you have to call or e-mail to get details.
A A >>>
A A >>>A Also, IPSCO has an idler pulley kit that makes
installation
A A >>A A and
A A >>A A A A A belt
A A >>>A tensioning a breeze.
A A >>>
A A >>>A [1][599]http://www.ipsco.org/Pantera%20Parts/Idler%
20Pulley.htm
A A >>>
A A >>> References
A A >>>
A A >>>A 1. [1][600]http://www.ipsco.org/Pantera%20Parts/Idler%
20Pulley.htm
A A >>A A A A A [2][Idler%20Pulley.jpg]
A A >>A A A A A [3]Idler Pulley - IPSCO, Pantera, Viper,
Mechanical Parking
A A ...
A A >>A A A A A [601]www.ipsco.org<[104][602]http://www.
ipsco.org>
A A >>A A A A A Pantera Idler Pulley Assembly . Replacement for
factory
A A Idler
A A >>A A Pulley,
A A >>A A A A A this assembly allow adjustment without trying
to hold a
A A wrench
A A >>A A behind
A A >>A A A A A the bracket to tighten in ...
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A A [105][609]http://www.ipsco.org/Pantera%20Parts/Idler%
20Pulley.htm
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A A [106][610]http://www.ipsco.org/Pantera%20Parts/Idler%
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A A >>A A Message: 18
A A >>A A Date: Fri, 16 Sep 2016 14:18:39 -0700
A A >>A A From: Mike Drew
<[615]MikeLDrew at aol.com<mailto:[616]MikeLDrew at aol.com>>
A A >>A A To: Julian Kift
A A >>A A <[617]julian_kift at hotmail.com<
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A A >>A A Cc: David Nunn <[619]dnunn at telus.net<mailto:[620]dnunn@
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A A >>A A om>"
A A >>
A A >>
A A <[623]detomaso at server.detomasolist.
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A A >>A A om>>
A A >>A A Subject: Re: [DeTomaso] Sanden Compressors noises
A A >>A A Message-ID:
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A A <[625]7B7EDC5D-6016-45F7-B580-
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A A >>A A Julian,
A A >>A A Yes, he mentioned two different products for different
A A applications but
A A >>A A only had a link for the stock replacement idler. My
photo shows
A A the
A A >>A A idler that replaces the alternator to tension the water
pump
A A belt.
A A >>A A Mike
A A >>A A Sent from my iPhone
A A >>A A On Sep 16, 2016, at 14:16, Julian Kift
A A >>A A <[628]julian_kift at hotmail.com<
mailto:[629]julian_kift at hotmail.com>> wrote:
A A >>A A A A Mike,
A A >>A A A A It gets even better, that looks to be a different
idler
A A again, the
A A >>A A one
A A >>A A A A that was previously linked appears to go in the
stock
A A location, but
A A >>A A was
A A >>A A A A adjustable from the front negating the usual need
to get a
A A wrench
A A >>A A on
A A >>A A A A the rear.
A A >>A A A A Julian
A A >>
A A >>
A A ____________________________________________________________
______
A A >>A A A A From: DeTomaso
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A A <[630]detomaso-bounces at server.
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A A >>A A [632]r.detomasolist.com>> on behalf of
A A >>A A A A Mike Drew via DeTomaso
A A >>
A A <[633]detomaso at server.detomasolist.
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A A >>A A om>>
A A >>A A A A Sent: Friday, September 16, 2016 2:11 PM
A A >>A A A A To: David Nunn
A A >>A A A A Cc:
A A >>
A A <[635]detomaso at server.detomasolist.
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A A >>A A om>>
A A >>A A A A Subject: Re: [DeTomaso] Sanden Compressors noises
A A >>A A A A All,
A A >>A A A A Here is a photo of the IPSCO water pump idler
pulley setup.
A A Note
A A >>A A there
A A >>A A A A is no alternator in view, as this car is fitted
with a flat
A A >>A A firewall
A A >>A A A A kit that moves the alternator outboard of the A/C
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A A >>A A A A Mike
A A >>A A A A Sent from my iPhone
A A >>A A A A On Sep 15, 2016, at 15:41, "David Nunn"
A A >>A A <[639]dnunn at telus.net<mailto:[640]dnunn at telus.net>>
wrote:
A A >>A A A A Rob,
A A >>A A A A If I'm not mistaken, IPSCO sells a kit that
modifies Kirk's
A A kit. It
A A >>A A A A eliminates the "fitted", non-adjustable belt and
makes it
A A >>A A A A adjustable.
A A >>A A A A It sure makes installation a lot easier. It's not
listed on
A A IPSCO's
A A >>A A A A web
A A >>A A A A site so you have to call or e-mail to get details.
A A >>A A A A Also, IPSCO has an idler pulley kit that makes
installation
A A and
A A >>A A A A belt
A A >>A A A A tensioning a breeze.
A A >>A A A A [1][641]http://www.ipsco.org/
Pantera%20Parts/Idler%20Pulley.htm
A A >>A A References
A A >>A A A A 1. [1][642]http://www.ipsco.org/
Pantera%20Parts/Idler%20Pulley.htm
A A >>A A A A [2][Idler%20Pulley.jpg]
A A >>A A A A [3]Idler Pulley - IPSCO, Pantera, Viper,
Mechanical Parking
A A ...
A A >>A A A A [643]www.ipsco.org<[111][644]http://www.
ipsco.org>
A A >>A A A A Pantera Idler Pulley Assembly . Replacement for
factory Idler
A A >>A A Pulley,
A A >>A A A A this assembly allow adjustment without trying to
hold a
A A wrench
A A >>A A behind
A A >>A A A A the bracket to tighten in ...
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A A [112][651]http://www.ipsco.org/Pantera%20Parts/Idler%
20Pulley.htm
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A A [113][652]http://www.ipsco.org/Pantera%20Parts/Idler%
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A A >>A A Date: Fri, 16 Sep 2016 14:19:14 -0700
A A >>A A From: Larry Finch
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A A >>A A Subject: Re: [DeTomaso] McLeod hydraulic throw out
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A A >>A A Heat?
A A >>A A As I previously wrote, I have over 50,000 miles using
one of the
A A McLeod
A A >>A A systems.
A A >>A A Those 50,000 miles have all been WITH a black plastic
plug in the
A A hole
A A >>A A that some wish to call a ventilation hole rather than
an
A A inspection
A A >>A A hole. Your choice, I don't really care.
A A >>A A Whatever heat issues may or may not be present, with or
without a
A A plug,
A A >>A A have never appeared to be an issue in any way, shape or
form in
A A my many
A A >>A A years of experience.
A A >>A A I am all ears if Larry or anyone else has history that
supports a
A A >>A A failure of the McLeod unit from excessive heat.
A A >>A A Larry
A A >>A A Sent from me using a magic, handheld electronic gizmo.
A A >>A A On Sep 16, 2016, at 1:53 PM, Larry Stock
A A >>A A <[666]larrys at panteraparts.com<
mailto:[667]larrys at panteraparts.com>> wrote:
A A >>A A The basic problem is that the bell housing is too
confined and
A A not
A A >>A A ventilated well enough to dissipate the heat. The
Superformance
A A is
A A >>A A using a
A A >>A A Quick Time bell housing that has much more ventilation
than the
A A >>A A DeTomaso
A A >>A A Bell housing. Just another reason not to run those
Plugs that
A A some
A A >>A A vendors
A A >>A A offer, that close off the inspection hole at the left
hand top of
A A the
A A >>A A bell
A A >>A A housing. That is the only heat dissipation vent there
is.
A A >>A A Larry
A A >>A A On 9/16/16, 1:26 PM, "DeTomaso on behalf of Will
Kooiman"
A A >>
A A <[668]detomaso-bounces at server.
detomasolist.com<mailto:[669]detomaso-bounces at serve
A A >>A A [670]r.detomasolist.com> on behalf of
A A >>A A [671]will.kooiman at gmail.com<mailto:[672]
will.kooiman at gmail.com>> wrote:
A A >>A A Wow.
A A >>A A I have one in my Cobra, and so far it has worked
perfectly.
A A >>A A My Cobra came with an external slave from a Volvo that
was
A A readily
A A >>A A available 20 years ago, but is now unobtanium.A Rather
than
A A building a
A A >>A A new
A A >>A A bracket for a different slave, I switched to a McLeod
slave.
A A >>A A At any rate, as I said, it has worked perfectly - so
far.
A A >>A A --
A A >>A A Will
A A >>A A On 9/16/16 3:35 PM, "Larry Finch via DeTomaso"
A A >>
A A <[673]detomaso at server.detomasolist.
com<mailto:[674]detomaso at server.detomasolist.c
A A >>A A om>> wrote:
A A >>A A Cullen,
A A >>A A 2511 came equipped with one of those from Dennis when I
purchased
A A it in
A A >>A A 2002. Since then I have rebuilt the unit twice (three?)
and most
A A >>A A recently
A A >>A A did so using what I believe to be their current
offering. I spoke
A A with
A A >>A A and ordered directly from McLeod.
A A >>A A My opinion, in brief, is a very simple "NO!!"
A A >>A A The current offering was shipped to me with an
incorrect input
A A snout
A A >>A A spacer (I solved that by using the old spacer which
luckily I
A A still had
A A >>A A on hand), and the stainless steel input line, due to
its 90?
A A fitting
A A >>A A where one should have used a 45? fitting, twisted
itself, unseen
A A of
A A >>A A course, within the bell housing when it was connected
to the hard
A A line
A A >>A A attached to the chassis rails. Even stainless steel
lines don't
A A hold up
A A >>A A very long against grinding by a pressure plate.
A A >>A A The stainless steel bleed line is about 4 inches too
long,
A A sticking
A A >>A A outside the bell housing in a terrible display of ugly.
A A >>A A Finally, my last experience started with me ordering
the same
A A rebuild
A A >>A A kit
A A >>A A I had previously used, using the same number off of the
previous
A A >>A A invoice.
A A >>A A What I received from them was the rebuild kit for the
current
A A unit
A A >>A A which
A A >>A A uses an entirely different set of all rings. I
ultimately
A A determined
A A >>A A that
A A >>A A for all three generations of their hydraulic bearing
McLeod has
A A used
A A >>A A exactly the same rebuild kit part number. They added no
suffix
A A such as
A A >>A A a
A A >>A A A or a ?B which to me seems indicative of a problem
within the
A A company.
A A >>A A No, they no longer support a rebuild kit for the first
two
A A generations.
A A >>A A While you have some experience in using one of these
previously,
A A the
A A >>A A task
A A >>A A of establishing proper free play and clearances is
quite exacting
A A and
A A >>A A unforgiving. If you get it wrong there is nothing left
to do but
A A pull
A A >>A A the
A A >>A A transaxle and start all over again.
A A >>A A The unit I have is now adjusted for the factory
shortcomings and
A A as has
A A >>A A been my experience for over 50,000 miles, the system
works just
A A fine.
A A >>A A Dennis however no longer recommends their installation
and based
A A on my
A A >>A A experience I would not encourage any other owners to
venture down
A A that
A A >>A A road for themselves.
A A >>A A Feel free to reach out to me off-line or by phone for
more of the
A A gory
A A >>A A details.
A A >>A A Larry
A A >>A A Sent from me using a magic, handheld electronic gizmo.
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A A >>A A Date: Fri, 16 Sep 2016 16:38:06 -0500
A A >>A A From: Cullen McCann
A A >>A A <[681]cmccann1972 at gmail.com<mailto:[682]
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A A >>A A <[683]larrys at panteraparts.com<
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A A >>A A <[687]fresnofinches at aol.com<mailto:[688]
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A A >>A A Subject: Re: [DeTomaso] McLeod hydraulic throw out
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A A >>A A well, I have the quicktime bellhousing for the ZF on
4653. I
A A forgot to
A A >>A A mention that. Also didn't consider it would be
relevant. hmmmm.
A A >>A A On Fri, Sep 16, 2016 at 3:53 PM, Larry Stock
A A >>A A <[691]larrys at panteraparts.com<
mailto:[692]larrys at panteraparts.com>>
A A >>A A wrote:
A A >>A A The basic problem is that the bell housing is too
confined and
A A not
A A >>A A ventilated well enough to dissipate the heat. The
Superformance
A A is
A A >>A A using a
A A >>A A Quick Time bell housing that has much more ventilation
than the
A A >>A A DeTomaso
A A >>A A Bell housing. Just another reason not to run those
Plugs that
A A some
A A >>A A vendors
A A >>A A offer, that close off the inspection hole at the left
hand top of
A A the
A A >>A A bell
A A >>A A housing. That is the only heat dissipation vent there
is.
A A >>A A Larry
A A >>A A On 9/16/16, 1:26 PM, "DeTomaso on behalf of Will
Kooiman"
A A >>
A A <[693]detomaso-bounces at server.
detomasolist.com<mailto:[694]detomaso-bounces at serve
A A >>A A [695]r.detomasolist.com> on behalf of
A A >>A A [696]will.kooiman at gmail.com<mailto:[697]
will.kooiman at gmail.com>> wrote:
A A >>A A Wow.
A A >>A A I have one in my Cobra, and so far it has worked
perfectly.
A A >>A A My Cobra came with an external slave from a Volvo that
was
A A readily
A A >>A A available 20 years ago, but is now unobtanium.A Rather
than
A A building a
A A >>A A new
A A >>A A bracket for a different slave, I switched to a McLeod
slave.
A A >>A A At any rate, as I said, it has worked perfectly - so
far.
A A >>A A --
A A >>A A Will
A A >>A A On 9/16/16 3:35 PM, "Larry Finch via DeTomaso"
A A >>
A A <[698]detomaso at server.detomasolist.
com<mailto:[699]detomaso at server.detomasolist.c
A A >>A A om>> wrote:
A A >>A A Cullen,
A A >>A A 2511 came equipped with one of those from Dennis when I
purchased
A A it in
A A >>A A 2002. Since then I have rebuilt the unit twice (three?)
and most
A A >>A A recently
A A >>A A did so using what I believe to be their current
offering. I spoke
A A with
A A >>A A and ordered directly from McLeod.
A A >>A A My opinion, in brief, is a very simple "NO!!"
A A >>A A The current offering was shipped to me with an
incorrect input
A A snout
A A >>A A spacer (I solved that by using the old spacer which
luckily I
A A still had
A A >>A A on hand), and the stainless steel input line, due to
its 90?
A A fitting
A A >>A A where one should have used a 45? fitting, twisted
itself, unseen
A A of
A A >>A A course, within the bell housing when it was connected
to the hard
A A line
A A >>A A attached to the chassis rails. Even stainless steel
lines don't
A A hold up
A A >>A A very long against grinding by a pressure plate.
A A >>A A The stainless steel bleed line is about 4 inches too
long,
A A sticking
A A >>A A outside the bell housing in a terrible display of ugly.
A A >>A A Finally, my last experience started with me ordering
the same
A A rebuild
A A >>A A kit
A A >>A A I had previously used, using the same number off of the
previous
A A >>A A invoice.
A A >>A A What I received from them was the rebuild kit for the
current
A A unit
A A >>A A which
A A >>A A uses an entirely different set of all rings. I
ultimately
A A determined
A A >>A A that
A A >>A A for all three generations of their hydraulic bearing
McLeod has
A A used
A A >>A A exactly the same rebuild kit part number. They added no
suffix
A A such as
A A >>A A a
A A >>A A ? A or a ?B which to me seems indicative of a problem
within the
A A >>A A company.
A A >>A A No, they no longer support a rebuild kit for the first
two
A A generations.
A A >>A A While you have some experience in using one of these
previously,
A A the
A A >>A A task
A A >>A A of establishing proper free play and clearances is
quite exacting
A A and
A A >>A A unforgiving. If you get it wrong there is nothing left
to do but
A A pull
A A >>A A the
A A >>A A transaxle and start all over again.
A A >>A A The unit I have is now adjusted for the factory
shortcomings and
A A as has
A A >>A A been my experience for over 50,000 miles, the system
works just
A A fine.
A A >>A A Dennis however no longer recommends their installation
and based
A A on my
A A >>A A experience I would not encourage any other owners to
venture down
A A that
A A >>A A road for themselves.
A A >>A A Feel free to reach out to me off-line or by phone for
more of the
A A gory
A A >>A A details.
A A >>A A Larry
A A >>A A Sent from me using a magic, handheld electronic gizmo.
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A A >>A A A A A well, I have the quicktime bellhousing for the
ZF on 4653. I
A A >>A A forgot to
A A >>A A A A A mention that. Also didn't consider it would be
relevant.
A A hmmmm.
A A >>A A A A A On Fri, Sep 16, 2016 at 3:53 PM, Larry Stock
A A >>A A A A A <[1][709]larrys at panteraparts.com<
mailto:[710]larrys at panteraparts.com>>
A A >>A A wrote:
A A >>A A A A A A The basic problem is that the bell housing
is too confined
A A and
A A >>A A not
A A >>A A A A A A ventilated well enough to dissipate the
heat. The
A A Superformance
A A >>A A is
A A >>A A A A A A using a
A A >>A A A A A A Quick Time bell housing that has much more
ventilation
A A than the
A A >>A A A A A A DeTomaso
A A >>A A A A A A Bell housing. Just another reason not to run
those Plugs
A A that
A A >>A A some
A A >>A A A A A A vendors
A A >>A A A A A A offer, that close off the inspection hole at
the left hand
A A top
A A >>A A of
A A >>A A A A A A the bell
A A >>A A A A A A housing. That is the only heat dissipation
vent there is.
A A >>A A A A A A Larry
A A >>A A A A A A On 9/16/16, 1:26 PM, "DeTomaso on behalf of
Will Kooiman"
A A >>
A A >>
A A <[2][711]detomaso-bounces at server.
detomasolist.com<mailto:[712]detomaso-bounces at se
A A >>A A [713]rver.detomasolist.com> on behalf of
A A >>A A A A A A [3][714]will.kooiman at gmail.com<
mailto:[715]will.kooiman at gmail.com>>
A A wrote:
A A >>> Wow.
A A >>>
A A >>> I have one in my Cobra, and so far it has worked perfectly.
A A >>>
A A >>> My Cobra came with an external slave from a Volvo that was
A A >>A A readily
A A >>> available 20 years ago, but is now unobtanium.AA Rather
than
A A >>A A A A A A building a new
A A >>> bracket for a different slave, I switched to a McLeod
slave.
A A >>>
A A >>> At any rate, as I said, it has worked perfectly - so far.
A A >>>
A A >>> --
A A >>> Will
A A >>>
A A >>>
A A >>>
A A >>>
A A >>>
A A >>> On 9/16/16 3:35 PM, "Larry Finch via DeTomaso"
A A >>
A A >>>
A A <[4][716]detomaso at server.detomasolist.com<mailto:[717]detoma
so at server.detomasoli
A A >>A A [718]st.com>> wrote:
A A >>>
A A >>>> Cullen,
A A >>>>
A A >>>> 2511 came equipped with one of those from Dennis when I
A A >>A A purchased
A A >>A A A A A A it in
A A >>>> 2002. Since then I have rebuilt the unit twice (three?)
and
A A >>A A most
A A >>A A A A A A recently
A A >>>> did so using what I believe to be their current offering.
I
A A >>A A spoke
A A >>A A A A A A with
A A >>>> and ordered directly from McLeod.
A A >>>>
A A >>>> My opinion, in brief, is a very simple "NO!!"
A A >>>>
A A >>>> The current offering was shipped to me with an incorrect
input
A A >>A A A A A A snout
A A >>>> spacer (I solved that by using the old spacer which
luckily I
A A >>A A A A A A still had
A A >>>> on hand), and the stainless steel input line, due to its
A A >>A A 90ADEG
A A >>A A A A A A fitting
A A >>>> where one should have used a 45ADEG fitting, twisted
itself,
A A >>A A A A A A unseen of
A A >>>> course, within the bell housing when it was connected to
the
A A >>A A hard
A A >>A A A A A A line
A A >>>> attached to the chassis rails. Even stainless steel lines
A A >>A A don't
A A >>A A A A A A hold up
A A >>>> very long against grinding by a pressure plate.
A A >>>>
A A >>>> The stainless steel bleed line is about 4 inches too long,
A A >>A A A A A A sticking
A A >>>> outside the bell housing in a terrible display of ugly.
A A >>>>
A A >>>> Finally, my last experience started with me ordering the
same
A A >>A A A A A A rebuild kit
A A >>>> I had previously used, using the same number off of the
A A >>A A previous
A A >>A A A A A A invoice.
A A >>>> What I received from them was the rebuild kit for the
current
A A >>A A unit
A A >>A A A A A A which
A A >>>> uses an entirely different set of all rings. I ultimately
A A >>A A A A A A determined that
A A >>>> for all three generations of their hydraulic bearing
McLeod
A A >>A A has
A A >>A A A A A A used
A A >>>> exactly the same rebuild kit part number. They added no
suffix
A A >>A A A A A A such as a
A A >>>> A A or a AB which to me seems indicative of a problem
within
A A >>A A the
A A >>A A A A A A company.
A A >>>> No, they no longer support a rebuild kit for the first two
A A >>A A A A A A generations.
A A >>>>
A A >>>> While you have some experience in using one of these
A A >>A A previously,
A A >>A A A A A A the task
A A >>>> of establishing proper free play and clearances is quite
A A >>A A exacting
A A >>A A A A A A and
A A >>>> unforgiving. If you get it wrong there is nothing left to
do
A A >>A A but
A A >>A A A A A A pull the
A A >>>> transaxle and start all over again.
A A >>>>
A A >>>> The unit I have is now adjusted for the factory
shortcomings
A A >>A A and
A A >>A A A A A A as has
A A >>>> been my experience for over 50,000 miles, the system works
A A >>A A just
A A >>A A A A A A fine.
A A >>>> Dennis however no longer recommends their installation and
A A >>A A based
A A >>A A A A A A on my
A A >>>> experience I would not encourage any other owners to
venture
A A >>A A down
A A >>A A A A A A that
A A >>>> road for themselves.
A A >>>>
A A >>>> Feel free to reach out to me off-line or by phone for more
of
A A >>A A the
A A >>A A A A A A gory
A A >>>> details.
A A >>>>
A A >>>> Larry
A A >>>>
A A >>>> Sent from me using a magic, handheld electronic gizmo.
A A >>>> _______________________________________________
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A A >>A A A A A 4. [126]mailto:[733]detomaso at server.
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A A >>A A ------------------------------
A A >>A A Message: 21
A A >>A A Date: Fri, 16 Sep 2016 21:46:51 +0000
A A >>A A From: michael frazier
A A <[740]red3644 at hotmail.com<mailto:[741]red3644 at hotmail.com>>
A A >>A A To:
A A >>
A A "[742]detomaso at server.detomasolist.
com<mailto:[743]detomaso at server.detomasolist.c
A A >>A A om>"
A A >>
A A >>
A A <[744]detomaso at server.detomasolist.
com<mailto:[745]detomaso at server.detomasolist.c
A A >>A A om>>
A A >>A A Subject: [DeTomaso] NPC, Need transmission suggestions
A A >>A A Message-ID:
A A >>
A A >>
A A <SN1PR07MB2254F82A006D414EA80223FCB9F30 at SN1PR07MB2254.
namprd07.prod.out
A A >>
A A [746]look.com<mailto:[747]SN1PR07MB2254F
82A006D414EA80223FCB9F30 at SN1PR07MB2254.na
A A >>A A [748]mprd07.prod.outlook.com>>
A A >>A A Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8"
A A >>A A Hi All,
A A >>A A I?m putting a 1951 Ford truck back on the road.A It
sat in a barn
A A since
A A >>A A 1961 and only has 25k miles,
A A >>A A but those were farm miles and it is beat though not
rusted out.
A A >>A A Beautiful Rat Rod patina that will
A A >>A A remain.A The frame is boxed and cross braced, and
holds a
A A complete
A A >>A A Jaguar XJ suspension front and back.
A A >>A A I plan to run a spare Cleveland, actually a real Boss
351, and
A A want an
A A >>A A overdrive transmission.A Manual or
A A >>A A automatic, either one.A It won?t be drag raced but
will be used
A A >>A A regularly and would likely be run in an
A A >>A A open road race some time.A That?s the reason for the
overdrive.
A A >>A A I?ve been out of this part of the game for a while and
was
A A wondering
A A >>A A what would work well.
A A >>A A What would bolt up and work.A What would it come out
of?
A A >>A A Any info and ideas would be greatly appreciated.
A A >>A A Michael
A A >>A A Sent from
A A Mail<[133][749]https://go.microsoft.com/fwlink/?LinkId=550986>
for
A A >>A A Windows 10
A A >>A A -------------- next part --------------
A A >>A A A A A Hi All,
A A >>A A A A A I'm putting a 1951 Ford truck back on the
road.A It sat in a
A A barn
A A >>A A since
A A >>A A A A A 1961 and only has 25k miles,
A A >>A A A A A but those were farm miles and it is beat though
not rusted
A A out.
A A >>A A A A A Beautiful Rat Rod patina that will
A A >>A A A A A remain.A The frame is boxed and cross braced,
and holds a
A A complete
A A >>A A A A A Jaguar XJ suspension front and back.
A A >>A A A A A I plan to run a spare Cleveland, actually a
real Boss 351,
A A and
A A >>A A want an
A A >>A A A A A overdrive transmission.A Manual or
A A >>A A A A A automatic, either one.A It won't be drag raced
but will be
A A used
A A >>A A A A A regularly and would likely be run in an
A A >>A A A A A open road race some time.A That's the reason
for the
A A overdrive.
A A >>A A A A A I've been out of this part of the game for a
while and was
A A >>A A wondering
A A >>A A A A A what would work well.
A A >>A A A A A What would bolt up and work.A What would it
come out of?
A A >>A A A A A Any info and ideas would be greatly
appreciated.
A A >>A A A A A Michael
A A >>A A A A A Sent from [1]Mail for Windows 10
A A >>A A References
A A >>A A A A A 1. [134][750]https://go.microsoft.com/
fwlink/?LinkId=550986
A A >>A A ------------------------------
A A >>A A Message: 22
A A >>A A Date: Fri, 16 Sep 2016 15:04:46 -0700
A A >>A A From: "David Nunn"
<[751]dnunn at telus.net<mailto:[752]dnunn at telus.net>>
A A >>A A To: "'Mike Drew'"
<[753]MikeLDrew at aol.com<mailto:[754]MikeLDrew at aol.com>>,
A A >>A A "'Julian Kift'"
A A >>A A A A A A <[755]julian_kift at hotmail.com<
mailto:[756]julian_kift at hotmail.com>>
A A >>A A Cc:
A A >>
A A [757]detomaso at server.detomasolist.
com<mailto:[758]detomaso at server.detomasolist.co
A A >>A A m>
A A >>A A Subject: Re: [DeTomaso] Sanden Compressors noises
A A >>A A Message-ID:
A A >>
A A <003301d21066$5739cc80$05ad6580$@[759]telus.net<mailto:[760]003
301d21066$5739cc80
A A >>A A $05ad6580$@[761]telus.net>>
A A >>A A Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"
A A >>A A Julian,
A A >>A A Further to what Mike wrote; here's a photo of the front
of my
A A engine,
A A >>A A with
A A >>A A both IPSCO items installed.
A A >>A A David
A A >>A A -----Original Message-----
A A >>A A From: Mike Drew [[135]mailto:[762]MikeLDrew at aol.com]
A A >>A A Sent: September 16, 2016 2:19 PM
A A >>A A To: Julian Kift
A A >>A A <[763]julian_kift at hotmail.com<
mailto:[764]julian_kift at hotmail.com>>
A A >>A A Cc: David Nunn <[765]dnunn at telus.net<mailto:[766]dnunn@
telus.net>>;
A A >>
A A [767]detomaso at server.detomasolist.
com<mailto:[768]detomaso at server.detomasolist.co
A A >>A A m>
A A >>A A Subject: Re: [DeTomaso] Sanden Compressors noises
A A >>A A Julian,
A A >>A A Yes, he mentioned two different products for different
A A applications but
A A >>A A only
A A >>A A had a link for the stock replacement idler. My photo
shows the
A A idler
A A >>A A that
A A >>A A replaces the alternator to tension the water pump belt.
A A >>A A Mike
A A >>A A Sent from my iPhone
A A >>A A On Sep 16, 2016, at 14:16, Julian Kift
A A >>A A <[769]julian_kift at hotmail.com<
mailto:[770]julian_kift at hotmail.com>> wrote:
A A >>A A A A Mike,
A A >>A A A A It gets even better, that looks to be a different
idler
A A again, the
A A >>A A one
A A >>A A A A that was previously linked appears to go in the
stock
A A location, but
A A >>A A was
A A >>A A A A adjustable from the front negating the usual need
to get a
A A wrench
A A >>A A on
A A >>A A A A the rear.
A A >>A A A A Julian
A A >>
A A >>
A A ____________________________________________________________
______
A A >>A A A A From: DeTomaso
A A >>
A A <[771]detomaso-bounces at server.
detomasolist.com<mailto:[772]detomaso-bounces at serve
A A >>A A [773]r.detomasolist.com>> on behalf of
A A >>A A A A Mike Drew via DeTomaso
A A >>
A A <[774]detomaso at server.detomasolist.
com<mailto:[775]detomaso at server.detomasolist.c
A A >>A A om>>
A A >>A A A A Sent: Friday, September 16, 2016 2:11 PM
A A >>A A A A To: David Nunn
A A >>A A A A Cc:
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A A <[776]detomaso at server.detomasolist.
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A A >>A A om>>
A A >>A A A A Subject: Re: [DeTomaso] Sanden Compressors noises
A A >>A A A A All,
A A >>A A A A Here is a photo of the IPSCO water pump idler
pulley setup.
A A Note
A A >>A A there
A A >>A A A A is no alternator in view, as this car is fitted
with a flat
A A >>A A firewall
A A >>A A A A kit that moves the alternator outboard of the A/C
system.
A A >>
A A >>
A A [[778]cid:da0fdac9-8741-4e03-b676-ebaa4760fb6f at namprd18.prod.
outlook.com<mai
A A >>
A A [779]lto:da0fdac9-8741-4e03-b676-ebaa4760fb6f at namprd18.prod.
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A A >>A A A A Mike
A A >>A A A A Sent from my iPhone
A A >>A A A A On Sep 15, 2016, at 15:41, "David Nunn"
A A >>A A <[780]dnunn at telus.net<mailto:[781]dnunn at telus.net>>
wrote:
A A >>A A A A Rob,
A A >>A A A A If I'm not mistaken, IPSCO sells a kit that
modifies Kirk's
A A kit. It
A A >>A A eliminates the "fitted", non-adjustable belt and makes
it
A A >>A A A A adjustable.
A A >>A A A A It sure makes installation a lot easier. It's not
listed on
A A IPSCO's
A A >>A A A A web
A A >>A A A A site so you have to call or e-mail to get details.
A A >>A A A A Also, IPSCO has an idler pulley kit that makes
installation
A A and
A A >>A A A A belt
A A >>A A A A tensioning a breeze.
A A >>A A A A [1][782]http://www.ipsco.org/
Pantera%20Parts/Idler%20Pulley.htm
A A >>A A References
A A >>A A A A 1. [1][783]http://www.ipsco.org/
Pantera%20Parts/Idler%20Pulley.htm
A A >>A A A A [2][Idler%20Pulley.jpg]
A A >>A A A A [3]Idler Pulley - IPSCO, Pantera, Viper,
Mechanical Parking
A A ...
A A >>A A A A [784]www.ipsco.org<[136][785]http://www.
ipsco.org>
A A >>A A A A Pantera Idler Pulley Assembly . Replacement for
factory Idler
A A >>A A Pulley,
A A >>A A A A this assembly allow adjustment without trying to
hold a
A A wrench
A A >>A A behind
A A >>A A A A the bracket to tighten in ...
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A A >>A A Message: 23
A A >>A A Date: Fri, 16 Sep 2016 16:26:53 -0600
A A >>A A From: bill <[801]bill at incendium.com<mailto:[802]bil
l at incendium.com>>
A A >>A A To: michael frazier
A A <[803]red3644 at hotmail.com<mailto:[804]red3644 at hotmail.com>>,
A A >>
A A >>
A A "[805]detomaso at server.detomasolist.
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A A >>A A om>"
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A A <[807]detomaso at server.detomasolist.
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A A >>A A om>>
A A >>A A Subject: Re: [DeTomaso] NPC, Need transmission
suggestions
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A A <[809]asutxkibtwmp20w9x9fxrayp.1474064813467 at email.android.
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A A >>A A [811]ibtwmp20w9x9fxrayp.1474064813467 at email.android.
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A A >>A A Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8"
A A >>A A Michael:Screw that put a Ford flat head V8 in that
suckered.?
A A >>A A CheersBill MooreCalgary
A A >>A A -------- Original message --------From: michael frazier
A A >>A A <[812]red3644 at hotmail.com<mailto:[813]re
d3644 at hotmail.com>> Date:
A A 2016-09-16
A A >>A A 3:46 PMA (GMT-07:00) To:
A A >>
A A [814]detomaso at server.detomasolist.
com<mailto:[815]detomaso at server.detomasolist.co
A A >>A A m> Subject: [DeTomaso] NPC, Need transmission
suggestions
A A >>A A Hi All,
A A >>A A I?m putting a 1951 Ford truck back on the road.? It sat
in a barn
A A since
A A >>A A 1961 and only has 25k miles,
A A >>A A but those were farm miles and it is beat though not
rusted out.?
A A >>A A Beautiful Rat Rod patina that will
A A >>A A remain.? The frame is boxed and cross braced, and holds
a
A A complete
A A >>A A Jaguar XJ suspension front and back.
A A >>A A I plan to run a spare Cleveland, actually a real Boss
351, and
A A want an
A A >>A A overdrive transmission.? Manual or
A A >>A A automatic, either one.? It won?t be drag raced but will
be used
A A >>A A regularly and would likely be run in an
A A >>A A open road race some time.? That?s the reason for the
overdrive.
A A >>A A I?ve been out of this part of the game for a while and
was
A A wondering
A A >>A A what would work well.
A A >>A A What would bolt up and work.? What would it come out
of?
A A >>A A Any info and ideas would be greatly appreciated.
A A >>A A Michael
A A >>A A Sent from
A A Mail<[144][816]https://go.microsoft.com/fwlink/?LinkId=550986>
for
A A >>A A Windows 10
A A >>A A ?? Hi All,
A A >>A A ?? I'm putting a 1951 Ford truck back on the road.? It
sat in a
A A barn
A A >>A A since
A A >>A A ?? 1961 and only has 25k miles,
A A >>A A ?? but those were farm miles and it is beat though not
rusted
A A out.
A A >>A A ?? Beautiful Rat Rod patina that will
A A >>A A ?? remain.? The frame is boxed and cross braced, and
holds a
A A complete
A A >>A A ?? Jaguar XJ suspension front and back.
A A >>A A ?? I plan to run a spare Cleveland, actually a real
Boss 351, and
A A want
A A >>A A an
A A >>A A ?? overdrive transmission.? Manual or
A A >>A A ?? automatic, either one.? It won't be drag raced but
will be
A A used
A A >>A A ?? regularly and would likely be run in an
A A >>A A ?? open road race some time.? That's the reason for the
A A overdrive.
A A >>A A ?? I've been out of this part of the game for a while
and was
A A wondering
A A >>A A ?? what would work well.
A A >>A A ?? What would bolt up and work.? What would it come out
of?
A A >>A A ?? Any info and ideas would be greatly appreciated.
A A >>A A ?? Michael
A A >>A A ?? Sent from [1]Mail for Windows 10
A A >>A A References
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A A >>A A A A A Michael:
A A >>A A A A A Screw that put a Ford flat head V8 in that
suckered.
A A >>A A A A A Cheers
A A >>A A A A A Bill Moore
A A >>A A A A A Calgary
A A >>A A A A A -------- Original message --------
A A >>A A A A A From: michael frazier
A A >>A A <[821]red3644 at hotmail.com<mailto:[822]re
d3644 at hotmail.com>>
A A >>A A A A A Date: 2016-09-16 3:46 PM (GMT-07:00)
A A >>A A A A A To:
A A >>
A A [823]detomaso at server.detomasolist.
com<mailto:[824]detomaso at server.detomasolist.co
A A >>A A m>
A A >>A A A A A Subject: [DeTomaso] NPC, Need transmission
suggestions
A A >>A A A A A Hi All,
A A >>A A A A A I'm putting a 1951 Ford truck back on the
road.A It sat in a
A A barn
A A >>A A since
A A >>A A A A A 1961 and only has 25k miles,
A A >>A A A A A but those were farm miles and it is beat though
not rusted
A A out.
A A >>A A A A A Beautiful Rat Rod patina that will
A A >>A A A A A remain.A The frame is boxed and cross braced,
and holds a
A A complete
A A >>A A A A A Jaguar XJ suspension front and back.
A A >>A A A A A I plan to run a spare Cleveland, actually a
real Boss 351,
A A and
A A >>A A want an
A A >>A A A A A overdrive transmission.A Manual or
A A >>A A A A A automatic, either one.A It won't be drag raced
but will be
A A used
A A >>A A A A A regularly and would likely be run in an
A A >>A A A A A open road race some time.A That's the reason
for the
A A overdrive.
A A >>A A A A A I've been out of this part of the game for a
while and was
A A >>A A wondering
A A >>A A A A A what would work well.
A A >>A A A A A What would bolt up and work.A What would it
come out of?
A A >>A A A A A Any info and ideas would be greatly
appreciated.
A A >>A A A A A Michael
A A >>A A A A A Sent from
A A >>A A Mail<[147][825]https://go.microsoft.com/fwlink/?LinkId=
550986> for
A A >>A A A A A Windows 10
A A >>A A A A A A Hi All,
A A >>A A A A A A I'm putting a 1951 Ford truck back on the
road.A It sat
A A in a
A A >>A A barn
A A >>A A A A A since
A A >>A A A A A A 1961 and only has 25k miles,
A A >>A A A A A A but those were farm miles and it is beat
though not
A A rusted out.
A A >>A A A A A A Beautiful Rat Rod patina that will
A A >>A A A A A A remain.A The frame is boxed and cross
braced, and holds a
A A >>A A complete
A A >>A A A A A A Jaguar XJ suspension front and back.
A A >>A A A A A A I plan to run a spare Cleveland, actually a
real Boss
A A 351, and
A A >>A A want
A A >>A A A A A an
A A >>A A A A A A overdrive transmission.A Manual or
A A >>A A A A A A automatic, either one.A It won't be drag
raced but will
A A be used
A A >>A A A A A A regularly and would likely be run in an
A A >>A A A A A A open road race some time.A That's the
reason for the
A A overdrive.
A A >>A A A A A A I've been out of this part of the game for
a while and
A A was
A A >>A A wondering
A A >>A A A A A A what would work well.
A A >>A A A A A A What would bolt up and work.A What would
it come out of?
A A >>A A A A A A Any info and ideas would be greatly
appreciated.
A A >>A A A A A A Michael
A A >>A A A A A A Sent from [1]Mail for Windows 10
A A >>A A A A A References
A A >>A A A A A A 1. [148][826]https://go.microsoft.com/
fwlink/?LinkId=550986
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A A >>A A Message: 24
A A >>A A Date: Fri, 16 Sep 2016 16:31:46 -0600
A A >>A A From: bill <[830]bill at incendium.com<mailto:[831]bil
l at incendium.com>>
A A >>A A To: David Nunn <[832]dnunn at telus.net<mailto:[833]dnunn@
telus.net>>, 'Mike
A A Drew'
A A >>A A <[834]MikeLDrew at aol.com<mailto:[835]Mike
LDrew at aol.com>>,
A A >>A A A A A A 'Julian Kift'
A A >>A A <[836]julian_kift at hotmail.com<
mailto:[837]julian_kift at hotmail.com>>
A A >>A A Cc:
A A >>
A A [838]detomaso at server.detomasolist.
com<mailto:[839]detomaso at server.detomasolist.co
A A >>A A m>
A A >>A A Subject: Re: [DeTomaso] Sanden Compressors noises
A A >>A A Message-ID:
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A A <[840]twbfe1jjjap5dl76l23cu2gv.1474065106843 at email.android.
com<mailto:[841]twbfe1
A A >>A A [842]jjjap5dl76l23cu2gv.1474065106843 at email.android.
com>>
A A >>A A Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8"
A A >>A A Wow !,,,,
A A >>A A That looks to nice to cover up.....
A A >>A A CheersBill MooreCalgary
A A >>A A -------- Original message --------From: David Nunn
A A >>A A <[843]dnunn at telus.net<mailto:[844]dnunn at telus.net>>
Date: 2016-09-16A 4:04
A A PM
A A >>A A (GMT-07:00) To: 'Mike Drew'
A A >>A A <[845]MikeLDrew at aol.com<mailto:[846]Mike
LDrew at aol.com>>, 'Julian Kift'
A A >>A A <[847]julian_kift at hotmail.com<
mailto:[848]julian_kift at hotmail.com>> Cc:
A A >>
A A [849]detomaso at server.detomasolist.
com<mailto:[850]detomaso at server.detomasolist.co
A A >>A A m> Subject: Re: [DeTomaso] Sanden Compressors noises
A A >>A A Julian,
A A >>A A Further to what Mike wrote; here's a photo of the front
of my
A A engine,
A A >>A A with
A A >>A A both IPSCO items installed.
A A >>A A David
A A >>A A -----Original Message-----
A A >>A A From: Mike Drew [[150]mailto:[851]MikeLDrew at aol.com]
A A >>A A Sent: September 16, 2016 2:19 PM
A A >>A A To: Julian Kift
A A >>A A <[852]julian_kift at hotmail.com<
mailto:[853]julian_kift at hotmail.com>>
A A >>A A Cc: David Nunn <[854]dnunn at telus.net<mailto:[855]dnunn@
telus.net>>;
A A >>
A A [856]detomaso at server.detomasolist.
com<mailto:[857]detomaso at server.detomasolist.co
A A >>A A m>
A A >>A A Subject: Re: [DeTomaso] Sanden Compressors noises
A A >>A A Julian,
A A >>A A Yes, he mentioned two different products for different
A A applications but
A A >>A A only
A A >>A A had a link for the stock replacement idler. My photo
shows the
A A idler
A A >>A A that
A A >>A A replaces the alternator to tension the water pump belt.
A A >>A A Mike
A A >>A A Sent from my iPhone
A A >>A A On Sep 16, 2016, at 14:16, Julian Kift
A A >>A A <[858]julian_kift at hotmail.com<
mailto:[859]julian_kift at hotmail.com>> wrote:
A A >>A A ?? Mike,
A A >>A A ?? It gets even better, that looks to be a different
idler again,
A A the
A A >>A A one
A A >>A A ?? that was previously linked appears to go in the
stock
A A location, but
A A >>A A was
A A >>A A ?? adjustable from the front negating the usual need to
get a
A A wrench on
A A >>A A ?? the rear.
A A >>A A ?? Julian
A A >>A A ????
A A ____________________________________________________________
______
A A >>A A ?? From: DeTomaso
A A >>
A A <[860]detomaso-bounces at server.
detomasolist.com<mailto:[861]detomaso-bounces at serve
A A >>A A [862]r.detomasolist.com>> on behalf of
A A >>A A ?? Mike Drew via DeTomaso
A A >>
A A <[863]detomaso at server.detomasolist.
com<mailto:[864]detomaso at server.detomasolist.c
A A >>A A om>>
A A >>A A ?? Sent: Friday, September 16, 2016 2:11 PM
A A >>A A ?? To: David Nunn
A A >>A A ?? Cc:
A A >>
A A <[865]detomaso at server.detomasolist.
com<mailto:[866]detomaso at server.detomasolist.c
A A >>A A om>>
A A >>A A ?? Subject: Re: [DeTomaso] Sanden Compressors noises
A A >>A A ?? All,
A A >>A A ?? Here is a photo of the IPSCO water pump idler pulley
setup.
A A Note
A A >>A A there
A A >>A A ?? is no alternator in view, as this car is fitted with
a flat
A A firewall
A A >>A A ?? kit that moves the alternator outboard of the A/C
system.
A A >>A A ??
A A >>
A A [[867]cid:da0fdac9-8741-4e03-b676-ebaa4760fb6f at namprd18.prod.
outlook.com<mai
A A >>
A A [868]lto:da0fdac9-8741-4e03-b676-ebaa4760fb6f at namprd18.prod.
outlook.com>]
A A >>A A ?? Mike
A A >>A A ?? Sent from my iPhone
A A >>A A ?? On Sep 15, 2016, at 15:41, "David Nunn"
A A >>A A <[869]dnunn at telus.net<mailto:[870]dnunn at telus.net>>
wrote:
A A >>A A ? Rob,
A A >>A A ? If I'm not mistaken, IPSCO sells a kit that modifies
Kirk's
A A kit. It?
A A >>A A eliminates the "fitted", non-adjustable belt and makes
it
A A >>A A ?? adjustable.
A A >>A A ? It sure makes installation a lot easier. It's not
listed on
A A IPSCO's
A A >>A A ?? web
A A >>A A ? site so you have to call or e-mail to get details.
A A >>A A ? Also, IPSCO has an idler pulley kit that makes
installation and
A A >>A A ?? belt
A A >>A A ? tensioning a breeze.
A A >>A A ? [1][871]http://www.ipsco.org/Pantera%20Parts/Idler%
20Pulley.htm
A A >>A A References
A A >>A A ? 1. [1][872]http://www.ipsco.org/
Pantera%20Parts/Idler%20Pulley.htm
A A >>A A ?? [2][Idler%20Pulley.jpg]
A A >>A A ?? [3]Idler Pulley - IPSCO, Pantera, Viper, Mechanical
Parking
A A ...
A A >>A A ?? [873]www.ipsco.org<[151][874]http://www.ipsco.org>
A A >>A A ?? Pantera Idler Pulley Assembly . Replacement for
factory Idler
A A >>A A Pulley,
A A >>A A ?? this assembly allow adjustment without trying to
hold a wrench
A A >>A A behind
A A >>A A ?? the bracket to tighten in ...
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A A >>A A A A A Wow !,,,,
A A >>A A A A A That looks to nice to cover up.....
A A >>A A A A A Cheers
A A >>A A A A A Bill Moore
A A >>A A A A A Calgary
A A >>A A A A A -------- Original message --------
A A >>A A A A A From: David Nunn
<[892]dnunn at telus.net<mailto:[893]dnunn at telus.net>>
A A >>A A A A A Date: 2016-09-16 4:04 PM (GMT-07:00)
A A >>A A A A A To: 'Mike Drew'
A A <[894]MikeLDrew at aol.com<mailto:[895]MikeLDrew at aol.com>>,
A A >>A A 'Julian Kift'
A A >>A A A A A <[896]julian_kift at hotmail.com<
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A A >>A A A A A Cc:
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A A [898]detomaso at server.detomasolist.
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A A >>A A m>
A A >>A A A A A Subject: Re: [DeTomaso] Sanden Compressors
noises
A A >>A A A A A Julian,
A A >>A A A A A Further to what Mike wrote; here's a photo of
the front of
A A my
A A >>A A engine,
A A >>A A A A A with
A A >>A A A A A both IPSCO items installed.
A A >>A A A A A David
A A >>A A A A A -----Original Message-----
A A >>A A A A A From: Mike Drew
[[159]mailto:[900]MikeLDrew at aol.com]
A A >>A A A A A Sent: September 16, 2016 2:19 PM
A A >>A A A A A To: Julian Kift
A A >>A A <[901]julian_kift at hotmail.com<
mailto:[902]julian_kift at hotmail.com>>
A A >>A A A A A Cc: David Nunn
<[903]dnunn at telus.net<mailto:[904]dnunn at telus.net>>;
A A >>
A A [905]detomaso at server.detomasolist.
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A A >>A A m>
A A >>A A A A A Subject: Re: [DeTomaso] Sanden Compressors
noises
A A >>A A A A A Julian,
A A >>A A A A A Yes, he mentioned two different products for
different
A A >>A A applications but
A A >>A A A A A only
A A >>A A A A A had a link for the stock replacement idler. My
photo shows
A A the
A A >>A A idler
A A >>A A A A A that
A A >>A A A A A replaces the alternator to tension the water
pump belt.
A A >>A A A A A Mike
A A >>A A A A A Sent from my iPhone
A A >>A A A A A On Sep 16, 2016, at 14:16, Julian Kift
A A >>A A <[907]julian_kift at hotmail.com<
mailto:[908]julian_kift at hotmail.com>> wrote:
A A >>>A Mike,
A A >>>
A A >>>A It gets even better, that looks to be a different idler
again,
A A >>A A the
A A >>A A A A A one
A A >>>A that was previously linked appears to go in the stock
A A >>A A location, but
A A >>A A A A A was
A A >>>A adjustable from the front negating the usual need to get
a
A A >>A A wrench
A A >>A A A A A on
A A >>>A the rear.
A A >>>A Julian
A A >>
A A ____________________________________________________________
______
A A >>>
A A >>>A From: DeTomaso
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A A <[909]detomaso-bounces at server.
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A A >>A A [911]r.detomasolist.com>> on behalf
A A >>A A A A A of
A A >>>A Mike Drew via DeTomaso
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A A <[912]detomaso at server.detomasolist.
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A A >>A A om>>
A A >>>A Sent: Friday, September 16, 2016 2:11 PM
A A >>>A To: David Nunn
A A >>>A Cc:
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A A <[914]detomaso at server.detomasolist.
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A A >>A A om>>
A A >>>A Subject: Re: [DeTomaso] Sanden Compressors noises
A A >>>
A A >>>A All,
A A >>>A Here is a photo of the IPSCO water pump idler pulley
setup.
A A >>A A Note
A A >>A A A A A there
A A >>>A is no alternator in view, as this car is fitted with a
flat
A A >>A A A A A firewall
A A >>>A kit that moves the alternator outboard of the A/C system.
A A >>
A A >>
A A [[916]cid:da0fdac9-8741-4e03-b676-ebaa4760fb6f at namprd18.prod.
outlook.com<mai
A A >>
A A [917]lto:da0fdac9-8741-4e03-b676-ebaa4760fb6f at namprd18.prod.
outlook.com>]
A A >>>A Mike
A A >>>A Sent from my iPhone
A A >>>A On Sep 15, 2016, at 15:41, "David Nunn"
A A >>A A <[918]dnunn at telus.net<mailto:[919]dnunn at telus.net>>
wrote:
A A >>>> Rob,
A A >>>>
A A >>>> If I'm not mistaken, IPSCO sells a kit that modifies
Kirk's
A A >>A A kit.
A A >>A A A A A It
A A >>>> eliminates the "fitted", non-adjustable belt and makes it
A A >>>A adjustable.
A A >>>> It sure makes installation a lot easier. It's not listed
on
A A >>A A IPSCO's
A A >>>A web
A A >>>> site so you have to call or e-mail to get details.
A A >>>>
A A >>>> Also, IPSCO has an idler pulley kit that makes
installation
A A >>A A and
A A >>>A belt
A A >>>> tensioning a breeze.
A A >>>>
A A >>>> [1][920]http://www.ipsco.org/Pantera%20Parts/Idler%
20Pulley.htm
A A >>>>
A A >>>> References
A A >>>>
A A >>>> 1. [1][921]http://www.ipsco.org/Pantera%20Parts/Idler%
20Pulley.htm
A A >>>A [2][Idler%20Pulley.jpg]
A A >>>A [3]Idler Pulley - IPSCO, Pantera, Viper, Mechanical
Parking
A A >>A A ...
A A >>>A [922]www.ipsco.org<[160][923]http://www.ipsco.org>
A A >>>A Pantera Idler Pulley Assembly . Replacement for factory
Idler
A A >>A A A A A Pulley,
A A >>>A this assembly allow adjustment without trying to hold a
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A A >>A A A A A behind
A A >>>A the bracket to tighten in ...
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