[DeTomaso] Oil Suggestions
Michael Barnes
michaelbarnessrt10 at hotmail.co.uk
Sat Sep 17 16:11:36 EDT 2016
Thanks for that, I had no idea there were so many formulas
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On 17 Sep 2016, at 21:02, Julian Kift <julian_kift at hotmail.com<mailto:julian_kift at hotmail.com>> wrote:
The Mobil 1 Racing has the highest ZDDP at 1750 as it does not have to comply with the mandated specs for street use.
The other weights of Mobil 1 have varying amounts of ZDDP, it looks like the 0-40W FS has 1,000 ppm which I think is the upper limit allowable for the SF rating compliance. Here's the 2016 specs of the various Mobil 1 offerings;
https://mobiloil.com/~/media/amer/us/pvl/files/pdfs/mobil-1-oil-product-specs-guide-2016.pdf
With your new rebuild you'll ideally want to use a good break in oil initially to get the rings seated etc.
Julian
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From: DeTomaso <detomaso-bounces at server.detomasolist.com<mailto:detomaso-bounces at server.detomasolist.com>> on behalf of Michael Barnes <michaelbarnessrt10 at hotmail.co.uk<mailto:michaelbarnessrt10 at hotmail.co.uk>>
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To: Dave Londry
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Subject: Re: [DeTomaso] Oil Suggestions
So , is synthetic compatible with our Cleveland engines, say 0-40 ? My engine is currently being upgraded and I am hoping to use Mobil One
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> On 17 Sep 2016, at 19:12, Dave Londry <davel at emspace.com<mailto:davel at emspace.com>> wrote:
>
> Ever since the specs on Mobil 1 went to hell I've been using Rotella T6.
> It's got a great set of specs and they've been keeping them stable.
>
> And just to keep the discussion lively -
>
> ***A synthetic is superior in every aspect of lubrication.***
> Dave
>
>
>> On 2016-09-17 10:47 AM, Julian Kift wrote:
>> Traditionally diesel oils have high levels of detergents to deal with
>> the high sulfur, acidic conditions and higher heat etc. however with
>> the advent of low sulfur diesels they have come closer to gasoline
>> formulations. In fact there are a number of "Full fleet' oils designed
>> for use in both gasoline and diesel engines now. What diesel oils do
>> have is a high level of ZDDP required for older flat tappet
>> cams (Rotella T is 1200 ppm ZDDP) and Rotella T is actually recommended
>> by the Porsche Club of America.
>>
>> I do think there's a bit of a contradiction in terms between "Rotella
>> Type T 15W40" "I like to use the best oil" and "No synthetics"; no
>> doubt synthetics are more robust than dinosaur oil and the Rotella T
>> oils are now split into varying T grades T1 straight grade, T4 triple
>> protection , T5 synthetic and T6 a synthetic extreme temperature. All
>> have 1200 ppm of ZDDP as far as I can ascertain so the T6 would be the
>> best, although I'm sure the lesser will do the job.
>>
>> Yes it's confusing, but not rocket science....
>>
>> Personally I use Amsoil Z-Rod in my classic cars and have one of their
>> preferred customer accounts for discount as I also buy pure racing oils
>> and marine products.
>>
>> Julian
>> __________________________________________________________________
>>
>> From: DeTomaso <detomaso-bounces at server.detomasolist.com<mailto:detomaso-bounces at server.detomasolist.com>> on behalf of
>> Himes, Terry (397C) <terry.himes at jpl.nasa.gov<mailto:terry.himes at jpl.nasa.gov>>
>> Sent: Saturday, September 17, 2016 9:50 AM
>> To: detomaso at server.detomasolist.com<mailto:detomaso at server.detomasolist.com>
>> Subject: [DeTomaso] Oil Suggestions
>>
>> Good Morning Everyone,
>> I don't want to startup the oil discussion again. But does anyone have
>> thoughts on
>> Rotella Type T 15w40. Which is a heavy duty diesel oil. It was
>> suggested by a local
>> Mustang shop. I like to use the best oil. No synthetics.
>> My rebuilt 351c (nothing fancy done, just the normal upgrades) has
>> about 3,500 miles
>> on it and running great.
>> Thanks so much.
>> Terry
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>> stupid enough to try it and lucky enough to survive!"
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>> From: DeTomaso
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>> Date: Saturday, September 17, 2016 7:56 AM
>> To: Owen Cooke <owen at tadhgcooke.com<mailto:owen at tadhgcooke.com><mailto:owen at tadhgcooke.com>>,
>> "detomaso at server.detomasolist.com<mailto:detomaso at server.detomasolist.com><mailto:detomaso at server.detomasolist.c
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>> om>>
>> Subject: Re: [DeTomaso] DeTomaso Digest, Vol 147, Issue 19
>> It's great to hear that you now have a functioning cooling system,
>> although I have to wonder which of the particular changes contributed
>> most, I suspect the thermostat housing being blocked off was a bulk of
>> the problem.
>> I had a similar experience when I got my first Pantera, it overheated
>> in traffic, so I jumped on the web found all these articles about
>> swapping radiators and fans etc. and duly went and purchased a setup.
>> When I got to going through the car checking the thermostat I found it
>> was a Windsor style, I swapped it for the correct Cleveland t-stat and
>> voila heating issues resolved.
>> It's just a reminder to check the simple stuff prior to laying out big
>> $$$, even now I think there are still a lot of myths' perpetuated about
>> these cars... like someone once said "why let the truth get in the way
>> of a good story"
>> Julian
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>> Subject: Re: [DeTomaso] DeTomaso Digest, Vol 147, Issue 19
>> guys
>> i had overheating problems
>> i put in a new hall brass rad but my car had bleed pipe from the rad
>> back to the swirl tank and no fitting in halls rad for it apart from a
>> top bleed screw
>> so i made a junction to fit the original bleed screw and the bleed pipe
>> to it
>> then new mariah (is that the right name) that fir on the stock brackets
>> and wired them directly from the battery to the relays
>> i found the hole under the thermostat was blocked with solder
>> i removed that and fitted a new stat
>> now all is perfect temp wise - warms up steady and holds the 90c or
>> 195f in all conditions
>> my gauge with sender in block beside the pump/stat ready 150f but its
>> steady and i know what to expect
>> very happy with result
>> owen cooke
>> On 16/09/2016 23:31,
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>> Date: Fri, 16 Sep 2016 09:29:46 -0700
>> From: Jack Donahue <demongusta at gmail.com<mailto:demongusta at gmail.com><mailto:demongusta at gmail.com>>
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>> Subject: [DeTomaso] Fans and shroud
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>> Hey all - A few weeks ago I was talking asking The List about
>> radiators - all said-and-done, I decided on the Hall radiator, since I
>> wanted brass/copper instead of aluminum. And, yes Mike Drew, I have to
>> admit it?s because I want to, not necessarily NEED to. It ain?t broke,
>> but I am fixing it(?). Didn?t want to admit that, but...Lol. There
>> really is an ulterior motive, but I just don?t want to mention it right
>> now; but I ran my idea past Brassworks - who says they will
>> ?build-to-suit? - but the Hall unit looks to be ?tried-and-proven?.
>> Now - fans. I really don?t know the brand name of my fans, but they are
>> suckers - about 12? diameter - and the blades are ?curved? -
>> sickle-shaped. The names that been bouncing around are Mariah, SPAL,
>> and Flex-a-lite. I had read someone?s post about the Flex-a-lite?s
>> since they said they can be - or are - mounted in a shroud that is a
>> perfect match for the Pantera radiator size. I think. And someone
>> offered-up a part number, but I deleted (or lost) it. All normal for
>> me.
>> So - I am ready for opinions/suggestions:
>> jack
>> #4348
>> ------------------------------
>> Message: 2
>> Date: Fri, 16 Sep 2016 16:54:05 +0000
>> From: "Himes, Terry (397C)"
>> <terry.himes at jpl.nasa.gov<mailto:terry.himes at jpl.nasa.gov><mailto:terry.himes at jpl.nasa.gov>>
>> To: Jack Donahue <demongusta at gmail.com<mailto:demongusta at gmail.com><mailto:demongusta at gmail.com>>,
>>
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>> om>"
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>> Subject: Re: [DeTomaso] Fans and shroud
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>> Jack,
>> Good stuff. I too am running the original radiator with new fans. I'm
>> not going to change it
>> now but I will follow your progress. Someday I will have to deal with
>> it. So keep posting and
>> I will keep saving the responses. ;-)
>> Terry
>> "A Purple Heart proves you were smart enough to hatch a plan,
>> stupid enough to try it and lucky enough to survive!"
>> Terry W. Himes
>> JPL Jet Propulsion Laboratory
>> Dawn Spacecraft Team
>> Rosetta Sequence Team Lead
>> Phone: (818) 393-6261
>> Cell: (818) 653-8213
>> Fax: (818) 393-3147
>> thimes at jpl.nasa.gov<mailto:thimes at jpl.nasa.gov><[4]mailto:thimes at jpl.nasa.gov><mailto:thimes at jpl.na
>> sa.gov<http://sa.gov>>
>> ??
>> From: DeTomaso
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>> on behalf of Jack Donahue
>> <demongusta at gmail.com<mailto:demongusta at gmail.com><mailto:demongusta at gmail.com><mailto:demongusta at gm
>> ail.com<http://ail.com>>>
>> Date: Friday, September 16, 2016 9:29 AM
>> To:
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>> Cc:
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>> Subject: [DeTomaso] Fans and shroud
>> Hey all - A few weeks ago I was talking asking The List about
>> radiators - all said-and-done, I decided on the Hall radiator, since I
>> wanted brass/copper instead of aluminum. And, yes Mike Drew, I have to
>> admit it?s because I want to, not necessarily NEED to. It ain?t broke,
>> but I am fixing it(?). Didn?t want to admit that, but...Lol. There
>> really is an ulterior motive, but I just don?t want to mention it right
>> now; but I ran my idea past Brassworks - who says they will
>> ?build-to-suit? - but the Hall unit looks to be ?tried-and-proven?.
>> Now - fans. I really don?t know the brand name of my fans, but they are
>> suckers - about 12? diameter - and the blades are ?curved? -
>> sickle-shaped. The names that been bouncing around are Mariah, SPAL,
>> and Flex-a-lite. I had read someone?s post about the Flex-a-lite?s
>> since they said they can be - or are - mounted in a shroud that is a
>> perfect match for the Pantera radiator size. I think. And someone
>> offered-up a part number, but I deleted (or lost) it. All normal for
>> me.
>> So - I am ready for opinions/suggestions:
>> jack
>> #4348
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>> Jack,
>> Good stuff. I too am running the original radiator with new
>> fans. I'm
>> not going to change it
>> now but I will follow your progress. Someday I will have to deal
>> with
>> it. So keep posting and
>> I will keep saving the responses. ;-)
>> Terry
>> "A Purple Heart proves you were smart enough to hatch a plan,
>> stupid enough to try it and lucky enough to survive!"
>> Terry W. Himes
>> JPL Jet Propulsion Laboratory
>> Dawn Spacecraft Team
>> Rosetta Sequence Team Lead
>> Phone: (818) 393-6261
>> Cell: (818) 653-8213
>> Fax: (818) 393-3147
>> [1]thimes at jpl.nasa.gov<mailto:thimes at jpl.nasa.gov><mailto:thimes at jpl.nasa.gov>
>> From: DeTomaso
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>> <[3]demongusta at gmail.com<mailto:demongusta at gmail.com><mailto:demongusta at gmail.com>>
>> Date: Friday, September 16, 2016 9:29 AM
>> To:
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>> Subject: [DeTomaso] Fans and shroud
>> Hey all - A few weeks ago I was talking asking The List
>> about radiators - all said-and-done, I decided on the Hall
>> radiator,
>> since I wanted brass/copper instead of aluminum. And, yes Mike
>> Drew, I
>> have to admit it's because I want to, not necessarily NEED to. It
>> ain't
>> broke, but I am fixing it(?). Didn't want to admit that,
>> but...Lol.
>> There really is an ulterior motive, but I just don't want to
>> mention it
>> right now; but I ran my idea past Brassworks - who says they
>> will
>> "build-to-suit" - but the Hall unit looks to be
>> "tried-and-proven".
>> Now - fans. I really don't know the brand name of my fans, but
>> they are
>> suckers - about 12" diameter - and the blades are "curved" -
>> sickle-shaped. The names that been bouncing around are Mariah,
>> SPAL,
>> and Flex-a-lite. I had read someone's post about the Flex-a-lite's
>> since they said they can be - or are - mounted in a shroud that is
>> a
>> perfect match for the Pantera radiator size. I think. And someone
>> offered-up a part number, but I deleted (or lost) it. All normal
>> for
>> me.
>> So - I am ready for opinions/suggestions:
>> jack
>> #4348
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>> Date: Fri, 16 Sep 2016 10:03:20 -0700
>> From: MyCars <mycars at comcast.net<mailto:mycars at comcast.net><mailto:mycars at comcast.net>>
>> To:
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>> Subject: [DeTomaso] Tires for Grp IV Flared Car
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>> I just bought 345-35 R15 Pirelli Asimmetrico (24.8" tall) tires for the
>> rear and wondering what would be a good match for the front.
>> I found 225-50 R15 Pirelli P Zero Trofeo R (23.9" tall). This would
>> give
>> the car a bit of rake, but what would the handling be like?
>> Thanks in advance for your thoughts
>> Roy
>> ------------------------------
>> Message: 4
>> Date: Fri, 16 Sep 2016 17:08:50 +0000 (UTC)
>> From: LSJ <lashdeep at yahoo.com<mailto:lashdeep at yahoo.com><mailto:lashdeep at yahoo.com>>
>> To: MyCars <mycars at comcast.net<mailto:mycars at comcast.net><mailto:mycars at comcast.net>>,
>> "detomaso at server.detomasolist.com<mailto:detomaso at server.detomasolist.com><mailto:detomaso at server.detomasolist.c
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>> Subject: Re: [DeTomaso] Tires for Grp IV Flared Car
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>> What size wheel up front?
>> ?LSJ
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>> To:
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>> Sent: Friday, September 16, 2016 1:03 PM
>> Subject: [DeTomaso] Tires for Grp IV Flared Car
>> I just bought 345-35 R15 Pirelli Asimmetrico (24.8" tall) tires for the
>> rear and wondering what would be a good match for the front.
>> I found 225-50 R15 Pirelli P Zero Trofeo R (23.9" tall). This would
>> give
>> the car a bit of rake, but what would the handling be like?
>> Thanks in advance for your thoughts
>> Roy
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>> Sent: Friday, September 16, 2016 1:03 PM
>> Subject: [DeTomaso] Tires for Grp IV Flared Car
>> I just bought 345-35 R15 Pirelli Asimmetrico (24.8" tall) tires
>> for the
>> rear and wondering what would be a good match for the front.
>> I found 225-50 R15 Pirelli P Zero Trofeo R (23.9" tall). This
>> would
>> give
>> the car a bit of rake, but what would the handling be like?
>> Thanks in advance for your thoughts
>> Roy
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>> Message: 5
>> Date: Fri, 16 Sep 2016 10:13:05 -0700
>> From: Jack Donahue <demongusta at gmail.com<mailto:demongusta at gmail.com><mailto:demongusta at gmail.com>>
>> To: "Himes, Terry (397C)"
>> <terry.himes at jpl.nasa.gov<mailto:terry.himes at jpl.nasa.gov><mailto:terry.himes at jpl.nasa.gov>>
>> Cc:
>> "detomaso at server.detomasolist.com<mailto:detomaso at server.detomasolist.com><mailto:detomaso at server.detomasolist.c
>> om>"
>>
>> <detomaso at server.detomasolist.com<mailto:detomaso at server.detomasolist.com><mailto:detomaso at server.detomasolist.c
>> om>>
>> Subject: Re: [DeTomaso] Fans and shroud
>> Message-ID:
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>> Terry - I don?t have the original radiator - I currently have a
>> Fluidyne with twin suckers, tilted forward, and A/C condenser in front.
>> Originally, I wanted to just add a shroud, based on a friend of mine
>> who does some serious off-road driving - he swears by a shroud - says
>> it really made a difference for him and that I should AT LEAST get one
>> for the whole ?Pantera-Heat-Prevention Program. That sounds good -
>> (PHPP). Anyway, the more I looked into things, the more I was
>> ?converted" to brass/copper as it seems to be more reliable - and more
>> repairable (which I like).
>> jack
>> On Sep 16, 2016, at 9:54 AM, Himes, Terry (397C)
>> <terry.himes at jpl.nasa.gov<mailto:terry.himes at jpl.nasa.gov><mailto:terry.himes at jpl.nasa.gov>> wrote:
>> Jack,
>> Good stuff. I too am running the original radiator with new fans. I'm
>> not going to change it
>> now but I will follow your progress. Someday I will have to deal with
>> it. So keep posting and
>> I will keep saving the responses. ;-)
>> Terry
>> "A Purple Heart proves you were smart enough to hatch a plan,
>> stupid enough to try it and lucky enough to survive!"
>> Terry W. Himes
>> JPL Jet Propulsion Laboratory
>> Dawn Spacecraft Team
>> Rosetta Sequence Team Lead
>> Phone: (818) 393-6261
>> Cell: (818) 653-8213
>> Fax: (818) 393-3147
>> thimes at jpl.nasa.gov<mailto:thimes at jpl.nasa.gov><[20]mailto:thimes at jpl.nasa.gov>
>> <[21]mailto:thimes at jpl.nasa.gov>
>> ??
>> From: DeTomaso
>> <detomaso-bounces at server.detomasolist.com<mailto:detomaso-bounces at server.detomasolist.com><mailto:detomaso-bounces at serve
>> r.detomasolist.com<http://r.detomasolist.com>>
>> <[22]mailto:detomaso-bounces at server.detomasolist.com>> on behalf of
>> Jack Donahue <demongusta at gmail.com<mailto:demongusta at gmail.com><mailto:demongusta at gmail.com>
>> <[23]mailto:demongusta at gmail.com>>
>> Date: Friday, September 16, 2016 9:29 AM
>> To:
>> "detomaso at server.detomasolist.com<mailto:detomaso at server.detomasolist.com><mailto:detomaso at server.detomasolist.c
>> om> <[24]mailto:detomaso at server.detomasolist.com>"
>> <detomaso at server.detomasolist.com<mailto:detomaso at server.detomasolist.com><mailto:detomaso at server.detomasolist.c
>> om> <[25]mailto:detomaso at server.detomasolist.com>>
>> Cc:
>> "detomaso at server.detomasolist.com<mailto:detomaso at server.detomasolist.com><mailto:detomaso at server.detomasolist.c
>> om> <[26]mailto:detomaso at server.detomasolist.com>"
>> <detomaso at server.detomasolist.com<mailto:detomaso at server.detomasolist.com><mailto:detomaso at server.detomasolist.c
>> om> <[27]mailto:detomaso at server.detomasolist.com>>
>> Subject: [DeTomaso] Fans and shroud
>> Hey all - A few weeks ago I was talking asking The List about
>> radiators - all said-and-done, I decided on the Hall radiator, since I
>> wanted brass/copper instead of aluminum. And, yes Mike Drew, I have to
>> admit it?s because I want to, not necessarily NEED to. It ain?t broke,
>> but I am fixing it(?). Didn?t want to admit that, but...Lol. There
>> really is an ulterior motive, but I just don?t want to mention it right
>> now; but I ran my idea past Brassworks - who says they will
>> ?build-to-suit? - but the Hall unit looks to be ?tried-and-proven?.
>> Now - fans. I really don?t know the brand name of my fans, but they are
>> suckers - about 12? diameter - and the blades are ?curved? -
>> sickle-shaped. The names that been bouncing around are Mariah, SPAL,
>> and Flex-a-lite. I had read someone?s post about the Flex-a-lite?s
>> since they said they can be - or are - mounted in a shroud that is a
>> perfect match for the Pantera radiator size. I think. And someone
>> offered-up a part number, but I deleted (or lost) it. All normal for
>> me.
>> So - I am ready for opinions/suggestions:
>> jack
>> #4348
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>> Terry - I don't have the original radiator - I currently have a
>> Fluidyne with twin suckers, tilted forward, and A/C condenser in
>> front.
>> Originally, I wanted to just add a shroud, based on a friend of
>> mine
>> who does some serious off-road driving - he swears by a shroud -
>> says
>> it really made a difference for him and that I should AT LEAST get
>> one
>> for the whole "Pantera-Heat-Prevention Program. That sounds good -
>> (PHPP). Anyway, the more I looked into things, the more I was
>> "converted" to brass/copper as it seems to be more reliable - and
>> more
>> repairable (which I like).
>> jack
>> On Sep 16, 2016, at 9:54 AM, Himes, Terry (397C)
>> <[1]terry.himes at jpl.nasa.gov<mailto:terry.himes at jpl.nasa.gov><mailto:terry.himes at jpl.nasa.gov>>
>> wrote:
>> Jack,
>> Good stuff. I too am running the original radiator with new
>> fans. I'm
>> not going to change it
>> now but I will follow your progress. Someday I will have to deal
>> with
>> it. So keep posting and
>> I will keep saving the responses. ;-)
>> Terry
>> "A Purple Heart proves you were smart enough to hatch a plan,
>> stupid enough to try it and lucky enough to survive!"
>> Terry W. Himes
>> JPL Jet Propulsion Laboratory
>> Dawn Spacecraft Team
>> Rosetta Sequence Team Lead
>> Phone: (818) 393-6261
>> Cell: (818) 653-8213
>> Fax: (818) 393-3147
>> [2]thimes at jpl.nasa.gov<mailto:thimes at jpl.nasa.gov><mailto:thimes at jpl.nasa.gov>
>> From: DeTomaso
>> <[3]detomaso-bounces at server.detomasolist.com<mailto:detomaso-bounces at server.detomasolist.com><mailto:detomaso-bounces at se
>> rver.detomasolist.com<http://rver.detomasolist.com>>> on behalf
>> of Jack Donahue
>> <[4]demongusta at gmail.com<mailto:demongusta at gmail.com><mailto:demongusta at gmail.com>>
>> Date: Friday, September 16, 2016 9:29 AM
>> To:
>> "[5]detomaso at server.detomasolist.com<mailto:detomaso at server.detomasolist.com><mailto:detomaso at server.detomasolis
>> t.com<http://t.com>>"
>>
>> <[6]detomaso at server.detomasolist.com<mailto:detomaso at server.detomasolist.com><mailto:detomaso at server.detomasolis
>> t.com<http://t.com>>>
>> Cc:
>> "[7]detomaso at server.detomasolist.com<mailto:detomaso at server.detomasolist.com><mailto:detomaso at server.detomasolis
>> t.com<http://t.com>>"
>>
>> <[8]detomaso at server.detomasolist.com<mailto:detomaso at server.detomasolist.com><mailto:detomaso at server.detomasolis
>> t.com<http://t.com>>>
>> Subject: [DeTomaso] Fans and shroud
>> Hey all - A few weeks ago I was talking asking The List
>> about radiators - all said-and-done, I decided on the Hall
>> radiator,
>> since I wanted brass/copper instead of aluminum. And, yes Mike
>> Drew, I
>> have to admit it's because I want to, not necessarily NEED to. It
>> ain't
>> broke, but I am fixing it(?). Didn't want to admit that,
>> but...Lol.
>> There really is an ulterior motive, but I just don't want to
>> mention it
>> right now; but I ran my idea past Brassworks - who says they
>> will
>> "build-to-suit" - but the Hall unit looks to be
>> "tried-and-proven".
>> Now - fans. I really don't know the brand name of my fans, but
>> they are
>> suckers - about 12" diameter - and the blades are "curved" -
>> sickle-shaped. The names that been bouncing around are Mariah,
>> SPAL,
>> and Flex-a-lite. I had read someone's post about the Flex-a-lite's
>> since they said they can be - or are - mounted in a shroud that is
>> a
>> perfect match for the Pantera radiator size. I think. And someone
>> offered-up a part number, but I deleted (or lost) it. All normal
>> for
>> me.
>> So - I am ready for opinions/suggestions:
>> jack
>> #4348
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>> 2. [32]mailto:thimes at jpl.nasa.gov
>> 3. [33]mailto:detomaso-bounces at server.detomasolist.com
>> 4. [34]mailto:demongusta at gmail.com
>> 5. [35]mailto:detomaso at server.detomasolist.com
>> 6. [36]mailto:detomaso at server.detomasolist.com
>> 7. [37]mailto:detomaso at server.detomasolist.com
>> 8. [38]mailto:detomaso at server.detomasolist.com
>> 9. [39]mailto:DeTomaso at server.detomasolist.com
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>> Message: 6
>> Date: Fri, 16 Sep 2016 10:17:31 -0700
>> From: Jack Donahue <demongusta at gmail.com<mailto:demongusta at gmail.com><mailto:demongusta at gmail.com>>
>> To: GR2835 at comcast.net<mailto:GR2835 at comcast.net><[41]mailto:GR2835 at comcast.net>
>> Cc:
>> "detomaso at server.detomasolist.com<mailto:detomaso at server.detomasolist.com><mailto:detomaso at server.detomasolist.c
>> om>"
>>
>> <detomaso at server.detomasolist.com<mailto:detomaso at server.detomasolist.com><mailto:detomaso at server.detomasolist.c
>> om>>
>> Subject: Re: [DeTomaso] Fans and shroud
>> Message-ID:
>> <2334BABE-726C-4D16-85EA-BB997B2B61CB at gmail.com<mailto:2334BABE-726C-4D16-85EA-BB997B2B61CB at gmail.com><mailto:2334BABE-726C-4D
>> 16-85EA-BB997B2B61CB at gmail.com<mailto:16-85EA-BB997B2B61CB at gmail.com>>>
>> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8
>> There-in lies one of my problems - I could never MAKE a shroud. I wish
>> I could - maybe out of foil-wrap. I will check out that website,
>> thanks.
>> On Sep 16, 2016, at 10:07 AM,
>> GR2835 at comcast.net<mailto:GR2835 at comcast.net><[42]mailto:GR2835 at comcast.net> wrote:
>> Pantera Electronics has recommended fans with part numbers under the
>> fan controller button on their website.
>> I have a stock radiator that was modified for lay down and air
>> conditioning condenser up front........I have a fan shroud that I made
>> and mounted the 2 sucker fans. 192 thermostat ran 192 in a 14 mile
>> traffic jam last year that.took me 90 minutes to get
>> through.......temperature was 98 degrees leaving the 2015 Woodward
>> Cruise...........my wife complained that she was too cold with the air
>> set on the warmest setting.
>> Good luck
>> Gerry in Illinois
>> ----- Original Message -----
>> From: Jack Donahue <demongusta at gmail.com<mailto:demongusta at gmail.com><mailto:demongusta at gmail.com>>
>> To:
>> detomaso at server.detomasolist.com<mailto:detomaso at server.detomasolist.com><mailto:detomaso at server.detomasolist.co
>> m>
>> Cc:
>> detomaso at server.detomasolist.com<mailto:detomaso at server.detomasolist.com><mailto:detomaso at server.detomasolist.co
>> m>
>> Sent: Fri, 16 Sep 2016 16:29:46 -0000 (UTC)
>> Subject: [DeTomaso] Fans and shroud
>> Hey all - A few weeks ago I was talking asking The List about
>> radiators - all said-and-done, I decided on the Hall radiator, since I
>> wanted brass/copper instead of aluminum. And, yes Mike Drew, I have to
>> admit it?s because I want to, not necessarily NEED to. It ain?t broke,
>> but I am fixing it(?). Didn?t want to admit that, but...Lol. There
>> really is an ulterior motive, but I just don?t want to mention it right
>> now; but I ran my idea past Brassworks - who says they will
>> ?build-to-suit? - but the Hall unit looks to be ?tried-and-proven?.
>> Now - fans. I really don?t know the brand name of my fans, but they are
>> suckers - about 12? diameter - and the blades are ?curved? -
>> sickle-shaped. The names that been bouncing around are Mariah, SPAL,
>> and Flex-a-lite. I had read someone?s post about the Flex-a-lite?s
>> since they said they can be - or are - mounted in a shroud that is a
>> perfect match for the Pantera radiator size. I think. And someone
>> offered-up a part number, but I deleted (or lost) it. All normal for
>> me.
>> So - I am ready for opinions/suggestions:
>> jack
>> #4348
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>> Message: 7
>> Date: Fri, 16 Sep 2016 11:24:26 -0700
>> From: Larry Stock
>> <larrys at panteraparts.com<mailto:larrys at panteraparts.com><mailto:larrys at panteraparts.com>>
>> To: Jack Donahue <demongusta at gmail.com<mailto:demongusta at gmail.com><mailto:demongusta at gmail.com>>
>> Cc:
>> "detomaso at server.detomasolist.com<mailto:detomaso at server.detomasolist.com><mailto:detomaso at server.detomasolist.c
>> om>"
>>
>> <detomaso at server.detomasolist.com<mailto:detomaso at server.detomasolist.com><mailto:detomaso at server.detomasolist.c
>> om>>
>> Subject: Re: [DeTomaso] Fans and shroud
>> Message-ID:
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>> panteraparts.com<http://panteraparts.com>>>
>> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="ISO-8859-1"
>> Hi Jack,
>> You should be able to use the fans off the Fluidyne, if not we have our
>> Maridyne system fans and our own bracket kit and if you need shrouds
>> for a
>> full lie-down system, we have those too. Typically we recommend our
>> half
>> Lay forward system which minimizes the thru air turbulence.
>> 11041B Defl. Rad. S.S. Lay down for kit $95.00
>> 11042B Stainless deflector right $65.00
>> 11043B Stainless deflector left $65.00
>> 11055B Radiator Puller Fan Shroud SS Mounting brackets set of 3 $125.00
>> 11055P PPC Puller Fans & Shroud Assy $325.00
>> If the Hall Brass radiator has the stock quick 90 degree hard radiator
>> tubes installed, you will not be able to mount a puller fan shroud
>> under
>> those tubes, if it has the straight out tubes then you can use 90
>> degree
>> molded rubber hoses to clear the Puller shroud like your Fluidyne.
>> Larry Stock
>> Pantera Parts Connection LC
>> 550 Mallory Way
>> Carson City NV 89701
>> [44]www.PanteraParts.com<http://www.panteraparts.com><http://www.PanteraParts.com<http://www.panteraparts.com>>
>> PH 775-283-4411
>> Fax 775-283-4410
>> Cell 1-800-DeTomaso 800-338-6627
>> On 9/16/16, 9:29 AM, "DeTomaso on behalf of Jack Donahue"
>> <detomaso-bounces at server.detomasolist.com<mailto:detomaso-bounces at server.detomasolist.com><mailto:detomaso-bounces at serve
>> r.detomasolist.com<http://r.detomasolist.com>> on behalf of
>> demongusta at gmail.com<mailto:demongusta at gmail.com><mailto:demongusta at gmail.com>> wrote:
>> Hey all - A few weeks ago I was talking asking The List about
>> radiators
>> - all said-and-done, I decided on the Hall radiator, since I wanted
>> brass/copper instead of aluminum. And, yes Mike Drew, I have to admit
>> it?s because I want to, not necessarily NEED to. It ain?t broke, but I
>> am
>> fixing it(?). Didn?t want to admit that, but...Lol. There really is an
>> ulterior motive, but I just don?t want to mention it right now; but I
>> ran
>> my idea past Brassworks - who says they will ?build-to-suit? - but
>> the
>> Hall unit looks to be ?tried-and-proven?.
>> Now - fans. I really don?t know the brand name of my fans, but they are
>> suckers - about 12? diameter - and the blades are ?curved? -
>> sickle-shaped. The names that been bouncing around are Mariah, SPAL,
>> and
>> Flex-a-lite. I had read someone?s post about the Flex-a-lite?s since
>> they
>> said they can be - or are - mounted in a shroud that is a perfect match
>> for the Pantera radiator size. I think. And someone offered-up a part
>> number, but I deleted (or lost) it. All normal for me.
>> So - I am ready for opinions/suggestions:
>> jack
>> #4348
>> _______________________________________________
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>> Message: 8
>> Date: Fri, 16 Sep 2016 14:09:55 -0500
>> From: Cullen McCann
>> <cmccann1972 at gmail.com<mailto:cmccann1972 at gmail.com><mailto:cmccann1972 at gmail.com>>
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>> lto:CAFwr-MXfE-RBLar+qAHGPYYWnwSszwYufvAcAcUT2ngvZZ1Aqg at mail.gmail.com<mailto:MXfE-RBLar+qAHGPYYWnwSszwYufvAcAcUT2ngvZZ1Aqg at mail.gmail.com>>
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>> Good afternoon!
>> Has anyone installed the McLeod hydraulic throwout bearing that they
>> say is
>> Pantera specific for the ZF, and what was your experience? I've had a
>> fantastic experience with them on another performance car application.
>> [46]https://www.summitracing.com/parts/mcl-1402-22
>> Thank you!!
>> -------------- next part --------------
>> Good afternoon!
>> Has anyone installed the McLeod hydraulic throwout bearing that
>> they
>> say is Pantera specific for the ZF, and what was your experience?
>> I've
>> had a fantastic experience with them on another performance car
>> application.
>> [1]https://www.summitracing.com/parts/mcl-1402-22
>> Thank you!!
>> References
>> 1. [47]https://www.summitracing.com/parts/mcl-1402-22
>> ------------------------------
>> Message: 9
>> Date: Fri, 16 Sep 2016 19:27:46 +0000 (UTC)
>> From: Ken Green <kenn_green at yahoo.com<mailto:kenn_green at yahoo.com><mailto:kenn_green at yahoo.com>>
>> To: Jack Donahue <demongusta at gmail.com<mailto:demongusta at gmail.com><mailto:demongusta at gmail.com>>,
>>
>> "detomaso at server.detomasolist.com<mailto:detomaso at server.detomasolist.com><mailto:detomaso at server.detomasolist.c
>> om>"
>> <detomaso at server.detomasolist.com<mailto:detomaso at server.detomasolist.com><mailto:detomaso at server.detomasolist.c
>> om>>
>> Subject: Re: [DeTomaso] Fans and shroud
>> Message-ID:
>> <1796334072.2409059.1474054066544 at mail.yahoo.com<mailto:1796334072.2409059.1474054066544 at mail.yahoo.com><mailto:1796334072.2409
>> 059.1474054066544 at mail.yahoo.com<mailto:059.1474054066544 at mail.yahoo.com>>>
>> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8"
>> Jack,
>> ??? You should be able to find the fan and shroud here:
>> [48]https://www.flex-a-lite.com/electric-fans/12-volt-electric-fans/uni
>> versal/primary-fans.html
>> From: Jack Donahue
>> <demongusta at gmail.com<mailto:demongusta at gmail.com><mailto:demongusta at gmail.com>>
>> To:
>> "detomaso at server.detomasolist.com<mailto:detomaso at server.detomasolist.com><mailto:detomaso at server.detomasolist.c
>> om>"
>> <detomaso at server.detomasolist.com<mailto:detomaso at server.detomasolist.com><mailto:detomaso at server.detomasolist.c
>> om>>
>> Cc:
>> "detomaso at server.detomasolist.com<mailto:detomaso at server.detomasolist.com><mailto:detomaso at server.detomasolist.c
>> om>"
>> <detomaso at server.detomasolist.com<mailto:detomaso at server.detomasolist.com><mailto:detomaso at server.detomasolist.c
>> om>>
>> Sent: Friday, September 16, 2016 9:29 AM
>> Subject: [DeTomaso] Fans and shroud
>> Hey all - A few weeks ago I was talking asking The List about?
>> radiators - all said-and-done, I decided on the Hall radiator, since I
>> wanted brass/copper instead of aluminum.? And, yes Mike Drew, I have to
>> admit it?s because I want to, not necessarily NEED to. It ain?t broke,
>> but I am fixing it(?). Didn?t want to admit that, but...Lol. There
>> really is an ulterior motive, but I just don?t want to mention it right
>> now; but I ran my idea past? Brassworks? - who says they will
>> ?build-to-suit? - but the Hall unit looks to be ?tried-and-proven?.
>> Now - fans. I really don?t know the brand name of my fans, but they are
>> suckers - about 12? diameter - and the blades are ?curved?? -
>> sickle-shaped. The names that been bouncing around are Mariah, SPAL,
>> and Flex-a-lite. I had read someone?s post about the Flex-a-lite?s
>> since they said they can be - or are - mounted in a shroud that is a
>> perfect match for the Pantera radiator size. I think. And someone
>> offered-up? a part number, but I deleted (or lost) it. All normal for
>> me.
>> So - I am ready for opinions/suggestions:
>> jack
>> #4348
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>> Jack,
>> You should be able to find the fan and shroud here:
>>
>> [1]https://www.flex-a-lite.com/electric-fans/12-volt-electric-fans/univ
>> ersal/primary-fans.html
>>
>> __________________________________________________________________
>> From: Jack Donahue
>> <demongusta at gmail.com<mailto:demongusta at gmail.com><mailto:demongusta at gmail.com>>
>> To:
>> "detomaso at server.detomasolist.com<mailto:detomaso at server.detomasolist.com><mailto:detomaso at server.detomasolist.c
>> om>"
>>
>> <detomaso at server.detomasolist.com<mailto:detomaso at server.detomasolist.com><mailto:detomaso at server.detomasolist.c
>> om>>
>> Cc:
>> "detomaso at server.detomasolist.com<mailto:detomaso at server.detomasolist.com><mailto:detomaso at server.detomasolist.c
>> om>"
>>
>> <detomaso at server.detomasolist.com<mailto:detomaso at server.detomasolist.com><mailto:detomaso at server.detomasolist.c
>> om>>
>> Sent: Friday, September 16, 2016 9:29 AM
>> Subject: [DeTomaso] Fans and shroud
>> Hey all - A few weeks ago I was talking asking The List about
>> radiators - all said-and-done, I decided on the Hall radiator,
>> since I
>> wanted brass/copper instead of aluminum. And, yes Mike Drew, I
>> have to
>> admit itas because I want to, not necessarily NEED to. It ainat
>> broke,
>> but I am fixing it(?). Didnat want to admit that, but...Lol. There
>> really is an ulterior motive, but I just donat want to mention it
>> right
>> now; but I ran my idea past Brassworks - who says they will
>> abuild-to-suita - but the Hall unit looks to be
>> atried-and-provena.
>> Now - fans. I really donat know the brand name of my fans, but
>> they are
>> suckers - about 12a diameter - and the blades are acurveda -
>> sickle-shaped. The names that been bouncing around are Mariah,
>> SPAL,
>> and Flex-a-lite. I had read someoneas post about the Flex-a-liteas
>> since they said they can be - or are - mounted in a shroud that is
>> a
>> perfect match for the Pantera radiator size. I think. And someone
>> offered-up a part number, but I deleted (or lost) it. All normal
>> for
>> me.
>> So - I am ready for opinions/suggestions:
>> jack
>> #4348
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>> [50]https://www.flex-a-lite.com/electric-fans/12-volt-electric-fans/uni
>> versal/primary-fans.html
>> 2. [51]mailto:DeTomaso at server.detomasolist.com
>> 3. [52]http://server.detomasolist.com/mailman/listinfo/detomaso
>> ------------------------------
>> Message: 10
>> Date: Fri, 16 Sep 2016 12:35:17 -0700
>> From: Larry Finch <fresnofinches at aol.com<mailto:fresnofinches at aol.com><mailto:fresnofinches at aol.com>>
>> To: Email List Address For Posting
>> <detomaso at server.detomasolist.com<mailto:detomaso at server.detomasolist.com><mailto:detomaso at server.detomasolist.c
>> om>>
>> Subject: [DeTomaso] McLeod hydraulic throw out
>> Message-ID:
>> <6C366701-6502-47C0-A0DC-59494515D156 at aol.com<mailto:6C366701-6502-47C0-A0DC-59494515D156 at aol.com><mailto:6C366701-6502-47C0
>> -A0DC-59494515D156 at aol.com<mailto:A0DC-59494515D156 at aol.com>>>
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>> Cullen,
>> 2511 came equipped with one of those from Dennis when I purchased it in
>> 2002. Since then I have rebuilt the unit twice (three?) and most
>> recently did so using what I believe to be their current offering. I
>> spoke with and ordered directly from McLeod.
>> My opinion, in brief, is a very simple "NO!!"
>> The current offering was shipped to me with an incorrect input snout
>> spacer (I solved that by using the old spacer which luckily I still had
>> on hand), and the stainless steel input line, due to its 90? fitting
>> where one should have used a 45? fitting, twisted itself, unseen of
>> course, within the bell housing when it was connected to the hard line
>> attached to the chassis rails. Even stainless steel lines don't hold up
>> very long against grinding by a pressure plate.
>> The stainless steel bleed line is about 4 inches too long, sticking
>> outside the bell housing in a terrible display of ugly.
>> Finally, my last experience started with me ordering the same rebuild
>> kit I had previously used, using the same number off of the previous
>> invoice. What I received from them was the rebuild kit for the current
>> unit which uses an entirely different set of all rings. I ultimately
>> determined that for all three generations of their hydraulic bearing
>> McLeod has used exactly the same rebuild kit part number. They added no
>> suffix such as a ? A or a ?B which to me seems indicative of a problem
>> within the company. No, they no longer support a rebuild kit for the
>> first two generations.
>> While you have some experience in using one of these previously, the
>> task of establishing proper free play and clearances is quite exacting
>> and unforgiving. If you get it wrong there is nothing left to do but
>> pull the transaxle and start all over again.
>> The unit I have is now adjusted for the factory shortcomings and as has
>> been my experience for over 50,000 miles, the system works just fine.
>> Dennis however no longer recommends their installation and based on my
>> experience I would not encourage any other owners to venture down that
>> road for themselves.
>> Feel free to reach out to me off-line or by phone for more of the gory
>> details.
>> Larry
>> Sent from me using a magic, handheld electronic gizmo.
>> ------------------------------
>> Message: 11
>> Date: Fri, 16 Sep 2016 12:50:41 -0700
>> From: MyCars <mycars at comcast.net<mailto:mycars at comcast.net><mailto:mycars at comcast.net>>
>> To: LSJ <lashdeep at yahoo.com<mailto:lashdeep at yahoo.com><mailto:lashdeep at yahoo.com>>,
>> "detomaso at server.detomasolist.com<mailto:detomaso at server.detomasolist.com><mailto:detomaso at server.detomasolist.c
>> om>"
>>
>> <detomaso at server.detomasolist.com<mailto:detomaso at server.detomasolist.com><mailto:detomaso at server.detomasolist.c
>> om>>
>> Subject: Re: [DeTomaso] Tires for Grp IV Flared Car
>> Message-ID:
>> <37e8f14d-dde9-3ce5-f312-4dd9b1c3f234 at comcast.net<mailto:37e8f14d-dde9-3ce5-f312-4dd9b1c3f234 at comcast.net><mailto:37e8f14d-dde9-
>> 3ce5-f312-4dd9b1c3f234 at comcast.net<mailto:3ce5-f312-4dd9b1c3f234 at comcast.net>>>
>> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8"; Format="flowed"
>> Going off memory (my car is still in Seattle) I am in San Diego area.
>> They are 15" Aluminum Weld 5-spoke rims, that I believe are about 9.5"
>> wide.
>> On 9/16/2016 10:08 AM, LSJ wrote:
>> What size wheel up front?
>> LSJ
>> /*central */
>> /*wines-spirits est 1934
>> */
>> /*
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>> */
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>> -
>> *From:* MyCars <mycars at comcast.net<mailto:mycars at comcast.net><mailto:mycars at comcast.net>>
>> *To:*
>> detomaso at server.detomasolist.com<mailto:detomaso at server.detomasolist.com><mailto:detomaso at server.detomasolist.co
>> m>
>> *Sent:* Friday, September 16, 2016 1:03 PM
>> *Subject:* [DeTomaso] Tires for Grp IV Flared Car
>> I just bought 345-35 R15 Pirelli Asimmetrico (24.8" tall) tires for the
>> rear and wondering what would be a good match for the front.
>> I found 225-50 R15 Pirelli P Zero Trofeo R (23.9" tall). This would
>> give
>> the car a bit of rake, but what would the handling be like?
>> Thanks in advance for your thoughts
>> Roy
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>> Going off memory (my car is still in Seattle) I am in San Diego
>> area.
>> They are 15" Aluminum Weld 5-spoke rims, that I believe are about
>> 9.5"
>> wide.
>> On 9/16/2016 10:08 AM, LSJ wrote:
>> What size wheel up front?
>> LSJ
>> central
>> wines-spirits est 1934
>> 625 e street nw
>> washington, dc 20004
>> [1]centralwines.com<http://centralwines.com>
>> [2]facebook.com/CentralLiquors<http://facebook.com/CentralLiquors>
>> 202-737-2800
>>
>> __________________________________________________________________
>> From: MyCars [3]<mycars at comcast.net<mailto:mycars at comcast.net><mailto:mycars at comcast.net>>
>> To:
>> [4]detomaso at server.detomasolist.com<mailto:detomaso at server.detomasolist.com><mailto:detomaso at server.detomasolist
>> .com>
>> Sent: Friday, September 16, 2016 1:03 PM
>> Subject: [DeTomaso] Tires for Grp IV Flared Car
>> I just bought 345-35 R15 Pirelli Asimmetrico (24.8" tall) tires
>> for the
>> rear and wondering what would be a good match for the front.
>> I found 225-50 R15 Pirelli P Zero Trofeo R (23.9" tall). This
>> would
>> give
>> the car a bit of rake, but what would the handling be like?
>> Thanks in advance for your thoughts
>> Roy
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>> ------------------------------
>> Message: 12
>> Date: Fri, 16 Sep 2016 13:00:36 -0700
>> From: MyCars <mycars at comcast.net<mailto:mycars at comcast.net><mailto:mycars at comcast.net>>
>> To:
>> detomaso at server.detomasolist.com<mailto:detomaso at server.detomasolist.com><mailto:detomaso at server.detomasolist.co
>> m>
>> Subject: Re: [DeTomaso] Tires for Grp IV Flared Car
>> Message-ID:
>> <013ad905-7f93-99e8-761f-878f602ee6cb at comcast.net<mailto:013ad905-7f93-99e8-761f-878f602ee6cb at comcast.net><mailto:013ad905-7f93-
>> 99e8-761f-878f602ee6cb at comcast.net<mailto:99e8-761f-878f602ee6cb at comcast.net>>>
>> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="windows-1252"; Format="flowed"
>> I just checked Weld's website
>> [63]http://weldwheels.com/shop/street-strip/sport-forged-wheels/prostar
>> .html
>> They do not offer a 15" rim 9.5" wide, so I would guess they are 9"
>> wide
>> On 9/16/2016 12:50 PM, MyCars wrote:
>> Going off memory (my car is still in Seattle) I am in San Diego
>> area.
>> They are 15" Aluminum Weld 5-spoke rims, that I believe are about
>> 9.5"
>> wide.
>> On 9/16/2016 10:08 AM, LSJ wrote:
>> What size wheel up front?
>> LSJ
>> central
>> wines-spirits est 1934
>> 625 e street nw
>> washington, dc 20004
>> [1]centralwines.com<http://centralwines.com>
>> [2]facebook.com/CentralLiquors<http://facebook.com/CentralLiquors>
>> 202-737-2800
>>
>> __________________________________________________________________
>> From: MyCars [3]<mycars at comcast.net<mailto:mycars at comcast.net><mailto:mycars at comcast.net>>
>> To:
>> [4]detomaso at server.detomasolist.com<mailto:detomaso at server.detomasolist.com><mailto:detomaso at server.detomasolist
>> .com>
>> Sent: Friday, September 16, 2016 1:03 PM
>> Subject: [DeTomaso] Tires for Grp IV Flared Car
>> I just bought 345-35 R15 Pirelli Asimmetrico (24.8" tall) tires
>> for the
>> rear and wondering what would be a good match for the front.
>> I found 225-50 R15 Pirelli P Zero Trofeo R (23.9" tall). This
>> would
>> give
>> the car a bit of rake, but what would the handling be like?
>> Thanks in advance for your thoughts
>> Roy
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>> I just checked Weld's website
>>
>> [1]http://weldwheels.com/shop/street-strip/sport-forged-wheels/prostar.
>> html
>> They do not offer a 15" rim 9.5" wide, so I would guess they are
>> 9"
>> wide
>> On 9/16/2016 12:50 PM, MyCars wrote:
>> Going off memory (my car is still in Seattle) I am in San Diego
>> area.
>> They are 15" Aluminum Weld 5-spoke rims, that I believe are about
>> 9.5"
>> wide.
>> On 9/16/2016 10:08 AM, LSJ wrote:
>> What size wheel up front?
>> LSJ
>> central
>> wines-spirits est 1934
>> 625 e street nw
>> washington, dc 20004
>> [1]centralwines.com<http://centralwines.com>
>> [2]facebook.com/CentralLiquors<http://facebook.com/CentralLiquors>
>> 202-737-2800
>>
>> __________________________________________________________________
>> From: MyCars [3][2]<mycars at comcast.net<mailto:mycars at comcast.net><mailto:mycars at comcast.net>>
>> To:
>> [[3]4]detomaso at server.detomasolist.com<mailto:detomaso at server.detomasolist.com><mailto:detomaso at server.detomasol
>> ist.com<http://ist.com>>
>> Sent: Friday, September 16, 2016 1:03 PM
>> Subject: [DeTomaso] Tires for Grp IV Flared Car
>> I just bought 345-35 R15 Pirelli Asimmetrico (24.8" tall) tires
>> for the
>> rear and wondering what would be a good match for the front.
>> I found 225-50 R15 Pirelli P Zero Trofeo R (23.9" tall). This
>> would
>> give
>> the car a bit of rake, but what would the handling be like?
>> Thanks in advance for your thoughts
>> Roy
>> _______________________________________________
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>> Message: 13
>> Date: Fri, 16 Sep 2016 16:26:27 -0400
>> From: Will Kooiman
>> <will.kooiman at gmail.com<mailto:will.kooiman at gmail.com><mailto:will.kooiman at gmail.com>>
>> To: Larry Finch <fresnofinches at aol.com<mailto:fresnofinches at aol.com><mailto:fresnofinches at aol.com>>,
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>> Subject: Re: [DeTomaso] McLeod hydraulic throw out
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>> Wow.
>> I have one in my Cobra, and so far it has worked perfectly.
>> My Cobra came with an external slave from a Volvo that was readily
>> available 20 years ago, but is now unobtanium. Rather than building a
>> new
>> bracket for a different slave, I switched to a McLeod slave.
>> At any rate, as I said, it has worked perfectly - so far.
>> --
>> Will
>> On 9/16/16 3:35 PM, "Larry Finch via DeTomaso"
>> <detomaso at server.detomasolist.com<mailto:detomaso at server.detomasolist.com><mailto:detomaso at server.detomasolist.c
>> om>> wrote:
>> Cullen,
>> 2511 came equipped with one of those from Dennis when I purchased it in
>> 2002. Since then I have rebuilt the unit twice (three?) and most
>> recently
>> did so using what I believe to be their current offering. I spoke with
>> and ordered directly from McLeod.
>> My opinion, in brief, is a very simple "NO!!"
>> The current offering was shipped to me with an incorrect input snout
>> spacer (I solved that by using the old spacer which luckily I still had
>> on hand), and the stainless steel input line, due to its 90? fitting
>> where one should have used a 45? fitting, twisted itself, unseen of
>> course, within the bell housing when it was connected to the hard line
>> attached to the chassis rails. Even stainless steel lines don't hold up
>> very long against grinding by a pressure plate.
>> The stainless steel bleed line is about 4 inches too long, sticking
>> outside the bell housing in a terrible display of ugly.
>> Finally, my last experience started with me ordering the same rebuild
>> kit
>> I had previously used, using the same number off of the previous
>> invoice.
>> What I received from them was the rebuild kit for the current unit
>> which
>> uses an entirely different set of all rings. I ultimately determined
>> that
>> for all three generations of their hydraulic bearing McLeod has used
>> exactly the same rebuild kit part number. They added no suffix such as
>> a
>> ? A or a ?B which to me seems indicative of a problem within the
>> company.
>> No, they no longer support a rebuild kit for the first two generations.
>> While you have some experience in using one of these previously, the
>> task
>> of establishing proper free play and clearances is quite exacting and
>> unforgiving. If you get it wrong there is nothing left to do but pull
>> the
>> transaxle and start all over again.
>> The unit I have is now adjusted for the factory shortcomings and as has
>> been my experience for over 50,000 miles, the system works just fine.
>> Dennis however no longer recommends their installation and based on my
>> experience I would not encourage any other owners to venture down that
>> road for themselves.
>> Feel free to reach out to me off-line or by phone for more of the gory
>> details.
>> Larry
>> Sent from me using a magic, handheld electronic gizmo.
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>> Message: 14
>> Date: Fri, 16 Sep 2016 15:50:41 -0500
>> From: Cullen McCann
>> <cmccann1972 at gmail.com<mailto:cmccann1972 at gmail.com><mailto:cmccann1972 at gmail.com>>
>> To: Will Kooiman
>> <will.kooiman at gmail.com<mailto:will.kooiman at gmail.com><mailto:will.kooiman at gmail.com>>
>> Cc: Email List Address For Posting
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>> om>>,
>> Larry Finch
>> <fresnofinches at aol.com<mailto:fresnofinches at aol.com><mailto:fresnofinches at aol.com>>
>> Subject: Re: [DeTomaso] McLeod hydraulic throw out
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>> Thank you Larry. You answered my question perfectly. I am like Will, I
>> have
>> one on my Cobra as well, with a ford Top Loader and its been there for
>> several years and Ive always loved it. I actually bought one that was
>> "new"
>> but several generations old, and when I called McLeod to inquire about
>> fresh O-rings, they sent me a brand new unit just to "ensure a positive
>> experience". I installed it with a performance clutch and a
>> scattershield,
>> bled it according to the instructions and that was about 4 years ago.
>> Havent had a lick of trouble. (knocking on wood now).
>> the frame rails on my cobra are 24" apart and I couldn't fit the clutch
>> fork between the side of the bellhousing and the frame rail, and ive
>> had a
>> bad experience with performance clutches and cables breaking in the
>> past...so I went the hydraulic route and have loved it.
>> however... I will certainly consider carefully this drama as I set up
>> my P
>> car. I have a plan B with an external slave also, if I choose not to
>> use
>> the factory unit. Thank you sir.
>> Cullen
>> On Fri, Sep 16, 2016 at 3:26 PM, Will Kooiman
>> <will.kooiman at gmail.com<mailto:will.kooiman at gmail.com><mailto:will.kooiman at gmail.com>>
>> wrote:
>> Wow.
>> I have one in my Cobra, and so far it has worked perfectly.
>> My Cobra came with an external slave from a Volvo that was readily
>> available 20 years ago, but is now unobtanium. Rather than building a
>> new
>> bracket for a different slave, I switched to a McLeod slave.
>> At any rate, as I said, it has worked perfectly - so far.
>> --
>> Will
>> On 9/16/16 3:35 PM, "Larry Finch via DeTomaso"
>> <detomaso at server.detomasolist.com<mailto:detomaso at server.detomasolist.com><mailto:detomaso at server.detomasolist.c
>> om>> wrote:
>> Cullen,
>> 2511 came equipped with one of those from Dennis when I purchased it in
>> 2002. Since then I have rebuilt the unit twice (three?) and most
>> recently
>> did so using what I believe to be their current offering. I spoke with
>> and ordered directly from McLeod.
>> My opinion, in brief, is a very simple "NO!!"
>> The current offering was shipped to me with an incorrect input snout
>> spacer (I solved that by using the old spacer which luckily I still had
>> on hand), and the stainless steel input line, due to its 90? fitting
>> where one should have used a 45? fitting, twisted itself, unseen of
>> course, within the bell housing when it was connected to the hard line
>> attached to the chassis rails. Even stainless steel lines don't hold up
>> very long against grinding by a pressure plate.
>> The stainless steel bleed line is about 4 inches too long, sticking
>> outside the bell housing in a terrible display of ugly.
>> Finally, my last experience started with me ordering the same rebuild
>> kit
>> I had previously used, using the same number off of the previous
>> invoice.
>> What I received from them was the rebuild kit for the current unit
>> which
>> uses an entirely different set of all rings. I ultimately determined
>> that
>> for all three generations of their hydraulic bearing McLeod has used
>> exactly the same rebuild kit part number. They added no suffix such as
>> a
>> ? A or a ?B which to me seems indicative of a problem within the
>> company.
>> No, they no longer support a rebuild kit for the first two generations.
>> While you have some experience in using one of these previously, the
>> task
>> of establishing proper free play and clearances is quite exacting and
>> unforgiving. If you get it wrong there is nothing left to do but pull
>> the
>> transaxle and start all over again.
>> The unit I have is now adjusted for the factory shortcomings and as has
>> been my experience for over 50,000 miles, the system works just fine.
>> Dennis however no longer recommends their installation and based on my
>> experience I would not encourage any other owners to venture down that
>> road for themselves.
>> Feel free to reach out to me off-line or by phone for more of the gory
>> details.
>> Larry
>> Sent from me using a magic, handheld electronic gizmo.
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>> Thank you Larry. You answered my question perfectly. I am like
>> Will, I
>> have one on my Cobra as well, with a ford Top Loader and its been
>> there
>> for several years and Ive always loved it. I actually bought one
>> that
>> was "new" but several generations old, and when I called McLeod to
>> inquire about fresh O-rings, they sent me a brand new unit just to
>> "ensure a positive experience". I installed it with a performance
>> clutch and a scattershield, bled it according to the instructions
>> and
>> that was about 4 years ago. Havent had a lick of trouble.A
>> (knocking
>> on wood now).
>> the frame rails on my cobra are 24" apart and I couldn't fit the
>> clutch
>> fork between the side of the bellhousing and the frame rail, and
>> ive
>> had a bad experience with performance clutches and cables breaking
>> in
>> the past...so I went the hydraulic route and have loved it.
>> however... I will certainly consider carefully this drama as I set
>> up
>> my P car. I have a plan B with an external slave also, if I choose
>> not
>> to use the factory unit.A Thank you sir.
>> Cullen
>> On Fri, Sep 16, 2016 at 3:26 PM, Will Kooiman
>> <[1]will.kooiman at gmail.com<mailto:will.kooiman at gmail.com><mailto:will.kooiman at gmail.com>> wrote:
>> Wow.
>> I have one in my Cobra, and so far it has worked perfectly.
>> My Cobra came with an external slave from a Volvo that was
>> readily
>> available 20 years ago, but is now unobtanium.A Rather than
>> building a new
>> bracket for a different slave, I switched to a McLeod slave.
>> At any rate, as I said, it has worked perfectly - so far.
>> --
>> Will
>> On 9/16/16 3:35 PM, "Larry Finch via DeTomaso"
>>
>> <[2]detomaso at server.detomasolist.com<mailto:detomaso at server.detomasolist.com><mailto:detomaso at server.detomasolis
>> t.com<http://t.com>>> wrote:
>>> Cullen,
>>>
>>> 2511 came equipped with one of those from Dennis when I purchased
>> it
>> in
>>> 2002. Since then I have rebuilt the unit twice (three?) and most
>> recently
>>> did so using what I believe to be their current offering. I spoke
>> with
>>> and ordered directly from McLeod.
>>>
>>> My opinion, in brief, is a very simple "NO!!"
>>>
>>> The current offering was shipped to me with an incorrect input
>> snout
>>> spacer (I solved that by using the old spacer which luckily I
>> still
>> had
>>> on hand), and the stainless steel input line, due to its 90ADEG
>> fitting
>>> where one should have used a 45ADEG fitting, twisted itself,
>> unseen of
>>> course, within the bell housing when it was connected to the hard
>> line
>>> attached to the chassis rails. Even stainless steel lines don't
>> hold
>> up
>>> very long against grinding by a pressure plate.
>>>
>>> The stainless steel bleed line is about 4 inches too long,
>> sticking
>>> outside the bell housing in a terrible display of ugly.
>>>
>>> Finally, my last experience started with me ordering the same
>> rebuild
>> kit
>>> I had previously used, using the same number off of the previous
>> invoice.
>>> What I received from them was the rebuild kit for the current
>> unit
>> which
>>> uses an entirely different set of all rings. I ultimately
>> determined
>> that
>>> for all three generations of their hydraulic bearing McLeod has
>> used
>>> exactly the same rebuild kit part number. They added no suffix
>> such as
>> a
>>> A A or a AB which to me seems indicative of a problem within the
>> company.
>>> No, they no longer support a rebuild kit for the first two
>> generations.
>>>
>>> While you have some experience in using one of these previously,
>> the
>> task
>>> of establishing proper free play and clearances is quite exacting
>> and
>>> unforgiving. If you get it wrong there is nothing left to do but
>> pull
>> the
>>> transaxle and start all over again.
>>>
>>> The unit I have is now adjusted for the factory shortcomings and
>> as
>> has
>>> been my experience for over 50,000 miles, the system works just
>> fine.
>>> Dennis however no longer recommends their installation and based
>> on my
>>> experience I would not encourage any other owners to venture down
>> that
>>> road for themselves.
>>>
>>> Feel free to reach out to me off-line or by phone for more of the
>> gory
>>> details.
>>>
>>> Larry
>>>
>>> Sent from me using a magic, handheld electronic gizmo.
>>> _______________________________________________
>>>
>>>
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>> Message: 15
>> Date: Fri, 16 Sep 2016 13:53:15 -0700
>> From: Larry Stock
>> <larrys at panteraparts.com<mailto:larrys at panteraparts.com><mailto:larrys at panteraparts.com>>
>> To: Will Kooiman
>> <will.kooiman at gmail.com<mailto:will.kooiman at gmail.com><mailto:will.kooiman at gmail.com>>, Larry Finch
>> <fresnofinches at aol.com<mailto:fresnofinches at aol.com><mailto:fresnofinches at aol.com>>, Email
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>> Subject: Re: [DeTomaso] McLeod hydraulic throw out
>> Message-ID:
>> <D401A883.17A144%larrys at panteraparts.com<mailto:larrys at panteraparts.com><mailto:D401A883.17A144%larrys@
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>> The basic problem is that the bell housing is too confined and not
>> ventilated well enough to dissipate the heat. The Superformance is
>> using a
>> Quick Time bell housing that has much more ventilation than the
>> DeTomaso
>> Bell housing. Just another reason not to run those Plugs that some
>> vendors
>> offer, that close off the inspection hole at the left hand top of the
>> bell
>> housing. That is the only heat dissipation vent there is.
>> Larry
>> On 9/16/16, 1:26 PM, "DeTomaso on behalf of Will Kooiman"
>> <detomaso-bounces at server.detomasolist.com<mailto:detomaso-bounces at server.detomasolist.com><mailto:detomaso-bounces at serve
>> r.detomasolist.com<http://r.detomasolist.com>> on behalf of
>> will.kooiman at gmail.com<mailto:will.kooiman at gmail.com><mailto:will.kooiman at gmail.com>> wrote:
>> Wow.
>> I have one in my Cobra, and so far it has worked perfectly.
>> My Cobra came with an external slave from a Volvo that was readily
>> available 20 years ago, but is now unobtanium. Rather than building a
>> new
>> bracket for a different slave, I switched to a McLeod slave.
>> At any rate, as I said, it has worked perfectly - so far.
>> --
>> Will
>> On 9/16/16 3:35 PM, "Larry Finch via DeTomaso"
>> <detomaso at server.detomasolist.com<mailto:detomaso at server.detomasolist.com><mailto:detomaso at server.detomasolist.c
>> om>> wrote:
>> Cullen,
>> 2511 came equipped with one of those from Dennis when I purchased it in
>> 2002. Since then I have rebuilt the unit twice (three?) and most
>> recently
>> did so using what I believe to be their current offering. I spoke with
>> and ordered directly from McLeod.
>> My opinion, in brief, is a very simple "NO!!"
>> The current offering was shipped to me with an incorrect input snout
>> spacer (I solved that by using the old spacer which luckily I still had
>> on hand), and the stainless steel input line, due to its 90? fitting
>> where one should have used a 45? fitting, twisted itself, unseen of
>> course, within the bell housing when it was connected to the hard line
>> attached to the chassis rails. Even stainless steel lines don't hold up
>> very long against grinding by a pressure plate.
>> The stainless steel bleed line is about 4 inches too long, sticking
>> outside the bell housing in a terrible display of ugly.
>> Finally, my last experience started with me ordering the same rebuild
>> kit
>> I had previously used, using the same number off of the previous
>> invoice.
>> What I received from them was the rebuild kit for the current unit
>> which
>> uses an entirely different set of all rings. I ultimately determined
>> that
>> for all three generations of their hydraulic bearing McLeod has used
>> exactly the same rebuild kit part number. They added no suffix such as
>> a
>> ? A or a ?B which to me seems indicative of a problem within the
>> company.
>> No, they no longer support a rebuild kit for the first two generations.
>> While you have some experience in using one of these previously, the
>> task
>> of establishing proper free play and clearances is quite exacting and
>> unforgiving. If you get it wrong there is nothing left to do but pull
>> the
>> transaxle and start all over again.
>> The unit I have is now adjusted for the factory shortcomings and as has
>> been my experience for over 50,000 miles, the system works just fine.
>> Dennis however no longer recommends their installation and based on my
>> experience I would not encourage any other owners to venture down that
>> road for themselves.
>> Feel free to reach out to me off-line or by phone for more of the gory
>> details.
>> Larry
>> Sent from me using a magic, handheld electronic gizmo.
>> _______________________________________________
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>> Message: 16
>> Date: Fri, 16 Sep 2016 14:11:22 -0700
>> From: Mike Drew <MikeLDrew at aol.com<mailto:MikeLDrew at aol.com><mailto:MikeLDrew at aol.com>>
>> To: David Nunn <dnunn at telus.net<mailto:dnunn at telus.net><mailto:dnunn at telus.net>>
>> Cc:
>> "<detomaso at server.detomasolist.com<mailto:detomaso at server.detomasolist.com><mailto:detomaso at server.detomasolist.
>> com>>"
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>> <detomaso at server.detomasolist.com<mailto:detomaso at server.detomasolist.com><mailto:detomaso at server.detomasolist.c
>> om>>
>> Subject: Re: [DeTomaso] Sanden Compressors noises
>> Message-ID:
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>> All,
>> Here is a photo of the IPSCO water pump idler pulley setup. Note there
>> is no alternator in view, as this car is fitted with a flat firewall
>> kit that moves the alternator outboard of the A/C system.
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>> Mike
>> Sent from my iPhone
>> On Sep 15, 2016, at 15:41, "David Nunn"
>> <dnunn at telus.net<mailto:dnunn at telus.net><mailto:dnunn at telus.net>> wrote:
>> Rob,
>> If I'm not mistaken, IPSCO sells a kit that modifies Kirk's kit. It
>> eliminates the "fitted", non-adjustable belt and makes it
>> adjustable.
>> It sure makes installation a lot easier. It's not listed on IPSCO's
>> web
>> site so you have to call or e-mail to get details.
>> Also, IPSCO has an idler pulley kit that makes installation and
>> belt
>> tensioning a breeze.
>> [1]http://www.ipsco.org/Pantera%20Parts/Idler%20Pulley.htm
>> References
>> 1. [96]http://www.ipsco.org/Pantera%20Parts/Idler%20Pulley.htm
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>> Date: Fri, 16 Sep 2016 21:16:34 +0000
>> From: Julian Kift
>> <julian_kift at hotmail.com<mailto:julian_kift at hotmail.com><mailto:julian_kift at hotmail.com>>
>> To: David Nunn <dnunn at telus.net<mailto:dnunn at telus.net><mailto:dnunn at telus.net>>, Mike Drew
>> <MikeLDrew at aol.com<mailto:MikeLDrew at aol.com><mailto:MikeLDrew at aol.com>>,
>>
>> "detomaso at server.detomasolist.com<mailto:detomaso at server.detomasolist.com><mailto:detomaso at server.detomasolist.c
>> om>"
>> <detomaso at server.detomasolist.com<mailto:detomaso at server.detomasolist.com><mailto:detomaso at server.detomasolist.c
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>> Subject: Re: [DeTomaso] Sanden Compressors noises
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>> Mike,
>> It gets even better, that looks to be a different idler again, the one
>> that was previously linked appears to go in the stock location, but was
>> adjustable from the front negating the usual need to get a wrench on
>> the rear.
>> Julian
>> ________________________________
>> From: DeTomaso
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>> r.detomasolist.com<http://r.detomasolist.com>>> on behalf of Mike Drew via DeTomaso
>> <detomaso at server.detomasolist.com<mailto:detomaso at server.detomasolist.com><mailto:detomaso at server.detomasolist.c
>> om>>
>> Sent: Friday, September 16, 2016 2:11 PM
>> To: David Nunn
>> Cc:
>> <detomaso at server.detomasolist.com<mailto:detomaso at server.detomasolist.com><mailto:detomaso at server.detomasolist.c
>> om>>
>> Subject: Re: [DeTomaso] Sanden Compressors noises
>> All,
>> Here is a photo of the IPSCO water pump idler pulley setup. Note there
>> is no alternator in view, as this car is fitted with a flat firewall
>> kit that moves the alternator outboard of the A/C system.
>> [cid:da0fdac9-8741-4e03-b676-ebaa4760fb6f at namprd18.prod.outlook.com<mailto:8741-4e03-b676-ebaa4760fb6f at namprd18.prod.outlook.com><mai
>> lto:da0fdac9-8741-4e03-b676-ebaa4760fb6f at namprd18.prod.outlook.com<mailto:8741-4e03-b676-ebaa4760fb6f at namprd18.prod.outlook.com>>]
>> Mike
>> Sent from my iPhone
>> On Sep 15, 2016, at 15:41, "David Nunn"
>> <dnunn at telus.net<mailto:dnunn at telus.net><mailto:dnunn at telus.net>> wrote:
>> Rob,
>> If I'm not mistaken, IPSCO sells a kit that modifies Kirk's kit. It
>> eliminates the "fitted", non-adjustable belt and makes it
>> adjustable.
>> It sure makes installation a lot easier. It's not listed on IPSCO's
>> web
>> site so you have to call or e-mail to get details.
>> Also, IPSCO has an idler pulley kit that makes installation and
>> belt
>> tensioning a breeze.
>> [1]http://www.ipsco.org/Pantera%20Parts/Idler%20Pulley.htm
>> References
>> 1. [98]http://www.ipsco.org/Pantera%20Parts/Idler%20Pulley.htm
>> [[99]http://www.ipsco.org/Pantera%20Parts/Idler%20Pulley.jpg]<http://ww
>> w.ipsco.org/Pantera%20Parts/Idler%20Pulley.htm<http://w.ipsco.org/Pantera%20Parts/Idler%20Pulley.htm>>
>> Idler Pulley - IPSCO, Pantera, Viper, Mechanical Parking
>> ...<[100]http://www.ipsco.org/Pantera%20Parts/Idler%20Pulley.htm>
>> www.ipsco.org<http://www.ipsco.org><[101]http://www.ipsco.org>
>> Pantera Idler Pulley Assembly . Replacement for factory Idler Pulley,
>> this assembly allow adjustment without trying to hold a wrench behind
>> the bracket to tighten in ...
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>> Mike,
>> It gets even better, that looks to be a different idler again, the
>> one
>> that was previously linked appears to go in the stock location,
>> but was
>> adjustable from the front negating the usual need to get a wrench
>> on
>> the rear.
>> Julian
>>
>> __________________________________________________________________
>> From: DeTomaso
>> <detomaso-bounces at server.detomasolist.com<mailto:detomaso-bounces at server.detomasolist.com><mailto:detomaso-bounces at serve
>> r.detomasolist.com<http://r.detomasolist.com>>> on behalf of
>> Mike Drew via DeTomaso
>> <detomaso at server.detomasolist.com<mailto:detomaso at server.detomasolist.com><mailto:detomaso at server.detomasolist.c
>> om>>
>> Sent: Friday, September 16, 2016 2:11 PM
>> To: David Nunn
>> Cc:
>> <detomaso at server.detomasolist.com<mailto:detomaso at server.detomasolist.com><mailto:detomaso at server.detomasolist.c
>> om>>
>> Subject: Re: [DeTomaso] Sanden Compressors noises
>> All,
>> Here is a photo of the IPSCO water pump idler pulley setup. Note
>> there
>> is no alternator in view, as this car is fitted with a flat
>> firewall
>> kit that moves the alternator outboard of the A/C system.
>>
>> [cid:da0fdac9-8741-4e03-b676-ebaa4760fb6f at namprd18.prod.outlook.com<mailto:8741-4e03-b676-ebaa4760fb6f at namprd18.prod.outlook.com><mai
>> lto:da0fdac9-8741-4e03-b676-ebaa4760fb6f at namprd18.prod.outlook.com<mailto:8741-4e03-b676-ebaa4760fb6f at namprd18.prod.outlook.com>>]
>> Mike
>> Sent from my iPhone
>> On Sep 15, 2016, at 15:41, "David Nunn"
>> <dnunn at telus.net<mailto:dnunn at telus.net><mailto:dnunn at telus.net>> wrote:
>>> Rob,
>>>
>>> If I'm not mistaken, IPSCO sells a kit that modifies Kirk's
>> kit. It
>>> eliminates the "fitted", non-adjustable belt and makes it
>> adjustable.
>>> It sure makes installation a lot easier. It's not listed on
>> IPSCO's
>> web
>>> site so you have to call or e-mail to get details.
>>>
>>> Also, IPSCO has an idler pulley kit that makes installation
>> and
>> belt
>>> tensioning a breeze.
>>>
>>> [1]http://www.ipsco.org/Pantera%20Parts/Idler%20Pulley.htm
>>>
>>> References
>>>
>>> 1. [1]http://www.ipsco.org/Pantera%20Parts/Idler%20Pulley.htm
>> [2][Idler%20Pulley.jpg]
>> [3]Idler Pulley - IPSCO, Pantera, Viper, Mechanical Parking ...
>> www.ipsco.org<http://www.ipsco.org><[104]http://www.ipsco.org>
>> Pantera Idler Pulley Assembly . Replacement for factory Idler
>> Pulley,
>> this assembly allow adjustment without trying to hold a wrench
>> behind
>> the bracket to tighten in ...
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>> 1. [105]http://www.ipsco.org/Pantera%20Parts/Idler%20Pulley.htm
>> 2. [106]http://www.ipsco.org/Pantera%20Parts/Idler%20Pulley.htm
>> 3. [107]http://www.ipsco.org/Pantera%20Parts/Idler%20Pulley.htm
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>> Message: 18
>> Date: Fri, 16 Sep 2016 14:18:39 -0700
>> From: Mike Drew <MikeLDrew at aol.com<mailto:MikeLDrew at aol.com><mailto:MikeLDrew at aol.com>>
>> To: Julian Kift
>> <julian_kift at hotmail.com<mailto:julian_kift at hotmail.com><mailto:julian_kift at hotmail.com>>
>> Cc: David Nunn <dnunn at telus.net<mailto:dnunn at telus.net><mailto:dnunn at telus.net>>,
>> "detomaso at server.detomasolist.com<mailto:detomaso at server.detomasolist.com><mailto:detomaso at server.detomasolist.c
>> om>"
>>
>> <detomaso at server.detomasolist.com<mailto:detomaso at server.detomasolist.com><mailto:detomaso at server.detomasolist.c
>> om>>
>> Subject: Re: [DeTomaso] Sanden Compressors noises
>> Message-ID:
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>> Julian,
>> Yes, he mentioned two different products for different applications but
>> only had a link for the stock replacement idler. My photo shows the
>> idler that replaces the alternator to tension the water pump belt.
>> Mike
>> Sent from my iPhone
>> On Sep 16, 2016, at 14:16, Julian Kift
>> <julian_kift at hotmail.com<mailto:julian_kift at hotmail.com><mailto:julian_kift at hotmail.com>> wrote:
>> Mike,
>> It gets even better, that looks to be a different idler again, the
>> one
>> that was previously linked appears to go in the stock location, but
>> was
>> adjustable from the front negating the usual need to get a wrench
>> on
>> the rear.
>> Julian
>>
>> __________________________________________________________________
>> From: DeTomaso
>> <detomaso-bounces at server.detomasolist.com<mailto:detomaso-bounces at server.detomasolist.com><mailto:detomaso-bounces at serve
>> r.detomasolist.com<http://r.detomasolist.com>>> on behalf of
>> Mike Drew via DeTomaso
>> <detomaso at server.detomasolist.com<mailto:detomaso at server.detomasolist.com><mailto:detomaso at server.detomasolist.c
>> om>>
>> Sent: Friday, September 16, 2016 2:11 PM
>> To: David Nunn
>> Cc:
>> <detomaso at server.detomasolist.com<mailto:detomaso at server.detomasolist.com><mailto:detomaso at server.detomasolist.c
>> om>>
>> Subject: Re: [DeTomaso] Sanden Compressors noises
>> All,
>> Here is a photo of the IPSCO water pump idler pulley setup. Note
>> there
>> is no alternator in view, as this car is fitted with a flat
>> firewall
>> kit that moves the alternator outboard of the A/C system.
>>
>> [cid:da0fdac9-8741-4e03-b676-ebaa4760fb6f at namprd18.prod.outlook.com<mailto:8741-4e03-b676-ebaa4760fb6f at namprd18.prod.outlook.com><mai
>> lto:da0fdac9-8741-4e03-b676-ebaa4760fb6f at namprd18.prod.outlook.com<mailto:8741-4e03-b676-ebaa4760fb6f at namprd18.prod.outlook.com>>]
>> Mike
>> Sent from my iPhone
>> On Sep 15, 2016, at 15:41, "David Nunn"
>> <dnunn at telus.net<mailto:dnunn at telus.net><mailto:dnunn at telus.net>> wrote:
>> Rob,
>> If I'm not mistaken, IPSCO sells a kit that modifies Kirk's kit. It
>> eliminates the "fitted", non-adjustable belt and makes it
>> adjustable.
>> It sure makes installation a lot easier. It's not listed on IPSCO's
>> web
>> site so you have to call or e-mail to get details.
>> Also, IPSCO has an idler pulley kit that makes installation and
>> belt
>> tensioning a breeze.
>> [1]http://www.ipsco.org/Pantera%20Parts/Idler%20Pulley.htm
>> References
>> 1. [1]http://www.ipsco.org/Pantera%20Parts/Idler%20Pulley.htm
>> [2][Idler%20Pulley.jpg]
>> [3]Idler Pulley - IPSCO, Pantera, Viper, Mechanical Parking ...
>> www.ipsco.org<http://www.ipsco.org><[111]http://www.ipsco.org>
>> Pantera Idler Pulley Assembly . Replacement for factory Idler
>> Pulley,
>> this assembly allow adjustment without trying to hold a wrench
>> behind
>> the bracket to tighten in ...
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>> 1. [112]http://www.ipsco.org/Pantera%20Parts/Idler%20Pulley.htm
>> 2. [113]http://www.ipsco.org/Pantera%20Parts/Idler%20Pulley.htm
>> 3. [114]http://www.ipsco.org/Pantera%20Parts/Idler%20Pulley.htm
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>> Message: 19
>> Date: Fri, 16 Sep 2016 14:19:14 -0700
>> From: Larry Finch <fresnofinches at aol.com<mailto:fresnofinches at aol.com><mailto:fresnofinches at aol.com>>
>> To: Email List Address For Posting
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>> Subject: Re: [DeTomaso] McLeod hydraulic throw out
>> Message-ID:
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>> Heat?
>> As I previously wrote, I have over 50,000 miles using one of the McLeod
>> systems.
>> Those 50,000 miles have all been WITH a black plastic plug in the hole
>> that some wish to call a ventilation hole rather than an inspection
>> hole. Your choice, I don't really care.
>> Whatever heat issues may or may not be present, with or without a plug,
>> have never appeared to be an issue in any way, shape or form in my many
>> years of experience.
>> I am all ears if Larry or anyone else has history that supports a
>> failure of the McLeod unit from excessive heat.
>> Larry
>> Sent from me using a magic, handheld electronic gizmo.
>> On Sep 16, 2016, at 1:53 PM, Larry Stock
>> <larrys at panteraparts.com<mailto:larrys at panteraparts.com><mailto:larrys at panteraparts.com>> wrote:
>> The basic problem is that the bell housing is too confined and not
>> ventilated well enough to dissipate the heat. The Superformance is
>> using a
>> Quick Time bell housing that has much more ventilation than the
>> DeTomaso
>> Bell housing. Just another reason not to run those Plugs that some
>> vendors
>> offer, that close off the inspection hole at the left hand top of the
>> bell
>> housing. That is the only heat dissipation vent there is.
>> Larry
>> On 9/16/16, 1:26 PM, "DeTomaso on behalf of Will Kooiman"
>> <detomaso-bounces at server.detomasolist.com<mailto:detomaso-bounces at server.detomasolist.com><mailto:detomaso-bounces at serve
>> r.detomasolist.com<http://r.detomasolist.com>> on behalf of
>> will.kooiman at gmail.com<mailto:will.kooiman at gmail.com><mailto:will.kooiman at gmail.com>> wrote:
>> Wow.
>> I have one in my Cobra, and so far it has worked perfectly.
>> My Cobra came with an external slave from a Volvo that was readily
>> available 20 years ago, but is now unobtanium. Rather than building a
>> new
>> bracket for a different slave, I switched to a McLeod slave.
>> At any rate, as I said, it has worked perfectly - so far.
>> --
>> Will
>> On 9/16/16 3:35 PM, "Larry Finch via DeTomaso"
>> <detomaso at server.detomasolist.com<mailto:detomaso at server.detomasolist.com><mailto:detomaso at server.detomasolist.c
>> om>> wrote:
>> Cullen,
>> 2511 came equipped with one of those from Dennis when I purchased it in
>> 2002. Since then I have rebuilt the unit twice (three?) and most
>> recently
>> did so using what I believe to be their current offering. I spoke with
>> and ordered directly from McLeod.
>> My opinion, in brief, is a very simple "NO!!"
>> The current offering was shipped to me with an incorrect input snout
>> spacer (I solved that by using the old spacer which luckily I still had
>> on hand), and the stainless steel input line, due to its 90? fitting
>> where one should have used a 45? fitting, twisted itself, unseen of
>> course, within the bell housing when it was connected to the hard line
>> attached to the chassis rails. Even stainless steel lines don't hold up
>> very long against grinding by a pressure plate.
>> The stainless steel bleed line is about 4 inches too long, sticking
>> outside the bell housing in a terrible display of ugly.
>> Finally, my last experience started with me ordering the same rebuild
>> kit
>> I had previously used, using the same number off of the previous
>> invoice.
>> What I received from them was the rebuild kit for the current unit
>> which
>> uses an entirely different set of all rings. I ultimately determined
>> that
>> for all three generations of their hydraulic bearing McLeod has used
>> exactly the same rebuild kit part number. They added no suffix such as
>> a
>> A or a ?B which to me seems indicative of a problem within the company.
>> No, they no longer support a rebuild kit for the first two generations.
>> While you have some experience in using one of these previously, the
>> task
>> of establishing proper free play and clearances is quite exacting and
>> unforgiving. If you get it wrong there is nothing left to do but pull
>> the
>> transaxle and start all over again.
>> The unit I have is now adjusted for the factory shortcomings and as has
>> been my experience for over 50,000 miles, the system works just fine.
>> Dennis however no longer recommends their installation and based on my
>> experience I would not encourage any other owners to venture down that
>> road for themselves.
>> Feel free to reach out to me off-line or by phone for more of the gory
>> details.
>> Larry
>> Sent from me using a magic, handheld electronic gizmo.
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>> Date: Fri, 16 Sep 2016 16:38:06 -0500
>> From: Cullen McCann
>> <cmccann1972 at gmail.com<mailto:cmccann1972 at gmail.com><mailto:cmccann1972 at gmail.com>>
>> To: Larry Stock
>> <larrys at panteraparts.com<mailto:larrys at panteraparts.com><mailto:larrys at panteraparts.com>>
>> Cc: Email List Address For Posting
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>> om>>,
>> Larry Finch
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>> Subject: Re: [DeTomaso] McLeod hydraulic throw out
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>> well, I have the quicktime bellhousing for the ZF on 4653. I forgot to
>> mention that. Also didn't consider it would be relevant. hmmmm.
>> On Fri, Sep 16, 2016 at 3:53 PM, Larry Stock
>> <larrys at panteraparts.com<mailto:larrys at panteraparts.com><mailto:larrys at panteraparts.com>>
>> wrote:
>> The basic problem is that the bell housing is too confined and not
>> ventilated well enough to dissipate the heat. The Superformance is
>> using a
>> Quick Time bell housing that has much more ventilation than the
>> DeTomaso
>> Bell housing. Just another reason not to run those Plugs that some
>> vendors
>> offer, that close off the inspection hole at the left hand top of the
>> bell
>> housing. That is the only heat dissipation vent there is.
>> Larry
>> On 9/16/16, 1:26 PM, "DeTomaso on behalf of Will Kooiman"
>> <detomaso-bounces at server.detomasolist.com<mailto:detomaso-bounces at server.detomasolist.com><mailto:detomaso-bounces at serve
>> r.detomasolist.com<http://r.detomasolist.com>> on behalf of
>> will.kooiman at gmail.com<mailto:will.kooiman at gmail.com><mailto:will.kooiman at gmail.com>> wrote:
>> Wow.
>> I have one in my Cobra, and so far it has worked perfectly.
>> My Cobra came with an external slave from a Volvo that was readily
>> available 20 years ago, but is now unobtanium. Rather than building a
>> new
>> bracket for a different slave, I switched to a McLeod slave.
>> At any rate, as I said, it has worked perfectly - so far.
>> --
>> Will
>> On 9/16/16 3:35 PM, "Larry Finch via DeTomaso"
>> <detomaso at server.detomasolist.com<mailto:detomaso at server.detomasolist.com><mailto:detomaso at server.detomasolist.c
>> om>> wrote:
>> Cullen,
>> 2511 came equipped with one of those from Dennis when I purchased it in
>> 2002. Since then I have rebuilt the unit twice (three?) and most
>> recently
>> did so using what I believe to be their current offering. I spoke with
>> and ordered directly from McLeod.
>> My opinion, in brief, is a very simple "NO!!"
>> The current offering was shipped to me with an incorrect input snout
>> spacer (I solved that by using the old spacer which luckily I still had
>> on hand), and the stainless steel input line, due to its 90? fitting
>> where one should have used a 45? fitting, twisted itself, unseen of
>> course, within the bell housing when it was connected to the hard line
>> attached to the chassis rails. Even stainless steel lines don't hold up
>> very long against grinding by a pressure plate.
>> The stainless steel bleed line is about 4 inches too long, sticking
>> outside the bell housing in a terrible display of ugly.
>> Finally, my last experience started with me ordering the same rebuild
>> kit
>> I had previously used, using the same number off of the previous
>> invoice.
>> What I received from them was the rebuild kit for the current unit
>> which
>> uses an entirely different set of all rings. I ultimately determined
>> that
>> for all three generations of their hydraulic bearing McLeod has used
>> exactly the same rebuild kit part number. They added no suffix such as
>> a
>> ? A or a ?B which to me seems indicative of a problem within the
>> company.
>> No, they no longer support a rebuild kit for the first two generations.
>> While you have some experience in using one of these previously, the
>> task
>> of establishing proper free play and clearances is quite exacting and
>> unforgiving. If you get it wrong there is nothing left to do but pull
>> the
>> transaxle and start all over again.
>> The unit I have is now adjusted for the factory shortcomings and as has
>> been my experience for over 50,000 miles, the system works just fine.
>> Dennis however no longer recommends their installation and based on my
>> experience I would not encourage any other owners to venture down that
>> road for themselves.
>> Feel free to reach out to me off-line or by phone for more of the gory
>> details.
>> Larry
>> Sent from me using a magic, handheld electronic gizmo.
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>> well, I have the quicktime bellhousing for the ZF on 4653. I
>> forgot to
>> mention that. Also didn't consider it would be relevant. hmmmm.
>> On Fri, Sep 16, 2016 at 3:53 PM, Larry Stock
>> <[1]larrys at panteraparts.com<mailto:larrys at panteraparts.com><mailto:larrys at panteraparts.com>>
>> wrote:
>> The basic problem is that the bell housing is too confined and
>> not
>> ventilated well enough to dissipate the heat. The Superformance
>> is
>> using a
>> Quick Time bell housing that has much more ventilation than the
>> DeTomaso
>> Bell housing. Just another reason not to run those Plugs that
>> some
>> vendors
>> offer, that close off the inspection hole at the left hand top
>> of
>> the bell
>> housing. That is the only heat dissipation vent there is.
>> Larry
>> On 9/16/16, 1:26 PM, "DeTomaso on behalf of Will Kooiman"
>>
>> <[2]detomaso-bounces at server.detomasolist.com<mailto:detomaso-bounces at server.detomasolist.com><mailto:detomaso-bounces at se
>> rver.detomasolist.com<http://rver.detomasolist.com>> on behalf of
>> [3]will.kooiman at gmail.com<mailto:will.kooiman at gmail.com><mailto:will.kooiman at gmail.com>> wrote:
>>> Wow.
>>>
>>> I have one in my Cobra, and so far it has worked perfectly.
>>>
>>> My Cobra came with an external slave from a Volvo that was
>> readily
>>> available 20 years ago, but is now unobtanium.A Rather than
>> building a new
>>> bracket for a different slave, I switched to a McLeod slave.
>>>
>>> At any rate, as I said, it has worked perfectly - so far.
>>>
>>> --
>>> Will
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> On 9/16/16 3:35 PM, "Larry Finch via DeTomaso"
>>
>>> <[4]detomaso at server.detomasolist.com<mailto:detomaso at server.detomasolist.com><mailto:detomaso at server.detomasoli
>> st.com<http://st.com>>> wrote:
>>>
>>>> Cullen,
>>>>
>>>> 2511 came equipped with one of those from Dennis when I
>> purchased
>> it in
>>>> 2002. Since then I have rebuilt the unit twice (three?) and
>> most
>> recently
>>>> did so using what I believe to be their current offering. I
>> spoke
>> with
>>>> and ordered directly from McLeod.
>>>>
>>>> My opinion, in brief, is a very simple "NO!!"
>>>>
>>>> The current offering was shipped to me with an incorrect input
>> snout
>>>> spacer (I solved that by using the old spacer which luckily I
>> still had
>>>> on hand), and the stainless steel input line, due to its
>> 90ADEG
>> fitting
>>>> where one should have used a 45ADEG fitting, twisted itself,
>> unseen of
>>>> course, within the bell housing when it was connected to the
>> hard
>> line
>>>> attached to the chassis rails. Even stainless steel lines
>> don't
>> hold up
>>>> very long against grinding by a pressure plate.
>>>>
>>>> The stainless steel bleed line is about 4 inches too long,
>> sticking
>>>> outside the bell housing in a terrible display of ugly.
>>>>
>>>> Finally, my last experience started with me ordering the same
>> rebuild kit
>>>> I had previously used, using the same number off of the
>> previous
>> invoice.
>>>> What I received from them was the rebuild kit for the current
>> unit
>> which
>>>> uses an entirely different set of all rings. I ultimately
>> determined that
>>>> for all three generations of their hydraulic bearing McLeod
>> has
>> used
>>>> exactly the same rebuild kit part number. They added no suffix
>> such as a
>>>> A A or a AB which to me seems indicative of a problem within
>> the
>> company.
>>>> No, they no longer support a rebuild kit for the first two
>> generations.
>>>>
>>>> While you have some experience in using one of these
>> previously,
>> the task
>>>> of establishing proper free play and clearances is quite
>> exacting
>> and
>>>> unforgiving. If you get it wrong there is nothing left to do
>> but
>> pull the
>>>> transaxle and start all over again.
>>>>
>>>> The unit I have is now adjusted for the factory shortcomings
>> and
>> as has
>>>> been my experience for over 50,000 miles, the system works
>> just
>> fine.
>>>> Dennis however no longer recommends their installation and
>> based
>> on my
>>>> experience I would not encourage any other owners to venture
>> down
>> that
>>>> road for themselves.
>>>>
>>>> Feel free to reach out to me off-line or by phone for more of
>> the
>> gory
>>>> details.
>>>>
>>>> Larry
>>>>
>>>> Sent from me using a magic, handheld electronic gizmo.
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>> 3. [125]mailto:will.kooiman at gmail.com
>> 4. [126]mailto:detomaso at server.detomasolist.com
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>> ------------------------------
>> Message: 21
>> Date: Fri, 16 Sep 2016 21:46:51 +0000
>> From: michael frazier <red3644 at hotmail.com<mailto:red3644 at hotmail.com><mailto:red3644 at hotmail.com>>
>> To:
>> "detomaso at server.detomasolist.com<mailto:detomaso at server.detomasolist.com><mailto:detomaso at server.detomasolist.c
>> om>"
>>
>> <detomaso at server.detomasolist.com<mailto:detomaso at server.detomasolist.com><mailto:detomaso at server.detomasolist.c
>> om>>
>> Subject: [DeTomaso] NPC, Need transmission suggestions
>> Message-ID:
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>> <SN1PR07MB2254F82A006D414EA80223FCB9F30 at SN1PR07MB2254.namprd07.prod.out<mailto:SN1PR07MB2254F82A006D414EA80223FCB9F30 at sn1pr07mb2254.namprd07.prod.out>
>> look.com<http://look.com><mailto:SN1PR07MB2254F82A006D414EA80223FCB9F30 at SN1PR07MB2254.na
>> mprd07.prod.outlook.com<http://mprd07.prod.outlook.com>>>
>> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8"
>> Hi All,
>> I?m putting a 1951 Ford truck back on the road. It sat in a barn since
>> 1961 and only has 25k miles,
>> but those were farm miles and it is beat though not rusted out.
>> Beautiful Rat Rod patina that will
>> remain. The frame is boxed and cross braced, and holds a complete
>> Jaguar XJ suspension front and back.
>> I plan to run a spare Cleveland, actually a real Boss 351, and want an
>> overdrive transmission. Manual or
>> automatic, either one. It won?t be drag raced but will be used
>> regularly and would likely be run in an
>> open road race some time. That?s the reason for the overdrive.
>> I?ve been out of this part of the game for a while and was wondering
>> what would work well.
>> What would bolt up and work. What would it come out of?
>> Any info and ideas would be greatly appreciated.
>> Michael
>> Sent from Mail<[133]https://go.microsoft.com/fwlink/?LinkId=550986> for
>> Windows 10
>> -------------- next part --------------
>> Hi All,
>> I'm putting a 1951 Ford truck back on the road. It sat in a barn
>> since
>> 1961 and only has 25k miles,
>> but those were farm miles and it is beat though not rusted out.
>> Beautiful Rat Rod patina that will
>> remain. The frame is boxed and cross braced, and holds a complete
>> Jaguar XJ suspension front and back.
>> I plan to run a spare Cleveland, actually a real Boss 351, and
>> want an
>> overdrive transmission. Manual or
>> automatic, either one. It won't be drag raced but will be used
>> regularly and would likely be run in an
>> open road race some time. That's the reason for the overdrive.
>> I've been out of this part of the game for a while and was
>> wondering
>> what would work well.
>> What would bolt up and work. What would it come out of?
>> Any info and ideas would be greatly appreciated.
>> Michael
>> Sent from [1]Mail for Windows 10
>> References
>> 1. [134]https://go.microsoft.com/fwlink/?LinkId=550986
>> ------------------------------
>> Message: 22
>> Date: Fri, 16 Sep 2016 15:04:46 -0700
>> From: "David Nunn" <dnunn at telus.net<mailto:dnunn at telus.net><mailto:dnunn at telus.net>>
>> To: "'Mike Drew'" <MikeLDrew at aol.com<mailto:MikeLDrew at aol.com><mailto:MikeLDrew at aol.com>>,
>> "'Julian Kift'"
>> <julian_kift at hotmail.com<mailto:julian_kift at hotmail.com><mailto:julian_kift at hotmail.com>>
>> Cc:
>> detomaso at server.detomasolist.com<mailto:detomaso at server.detomasolist.com><mailto:detomaso at server.detomasolist.co
>> m>
>> Subject: Re: [DeTomaso] Sanden Compressors noises
>> Message-ID:
>> <003301d21066$5739cc80$05ad6580$@telus.net<mailto:003301d21066$5739cc80$05ad6580$@telus.net><mailto:003301d21066$5739cc80
>> $05ad6580$@telus.net<mailto:05ad6580$@telus.net>>>
>> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"
>> Julian,
>> Further to what Mike wrote; here's a photo of the front of my engine,
>> with
>> both IPSCO items installed.
>> David
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: Mike Drew [[135]mailto:MikeLDrew at aol.com]
>> Sent: September 16, 2016 2:19 PM
>> To: Julian Kift
>> <julian_kift at hotmail.com<mailto:julian_kift at hotmail.com><mailto:julian_kift at hotmail.com>>
>> Cc: David Nunn <dnunn at telus.net<mailto:dnunn at telus.net><mailto:dnunn at telus.net>>;
>> detomaso at server.detomasolist.com<mailto:detomaso at server.detomasolist.com><mailto:detomaso at server.detomasolist.co
>> m>
>> Subject: Re: [DeTomaso] Sanden Compressors noises
>> Julian,
>> Yes, he mentioned two different products for different applications but
>> only
>> had a link for the stock replacement idler. My photo shows the idler
>> that
>> replaces the alternator to tension the water pump belt.
>> Mike
>> Sent from my iPhone
>> On Sep 16, 2016, at 14:16, Julian Kift
>> <julian_kift at hotmail.com<mailto:julian_kift at hotmail.com><mailto:julian_kift at hotmail.com>> wrote:
>> Mike,
>> It gets even better, that looks to be a different idler again, the
>> one
>> that was previously linked appears to go in the stock location, but
>> was
>> adjustable from the front negating the usual need to get a wrench
>> on
>> the rear.
>> Julian
>>
>> __________________________________________________________________
>> From: DeTomaso
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>> r.detomasolist.com<http://r.detomasolist.com>>> on behalf of
>> Mike Drew via DeTomaso
>> <detomaso at server.detomasolist.com<mailto:detomaso at server.detomasolist.com><mailto:detomaso at server.detomasolist.c
>> om>>
>> Sent: Friday, September 16, 2016 2:11 PM
>> To: David Nunn
>> Cc:
>> <detomaso at server.detomasolist.com<mailto:detomaso at server.detomasolist.com><mailto:detomaso at server.detomasolist.c
>> om>>
>> Subject: Re: [DeTomaso] Sanden Compressors noises
>> All,
>> Here is a photo of the IPSCO water pump idler pulley setup. Note
>> there
>> is no alternator in view, as this car is fitted with a flat
>> firewall
>> kit that moves the alternator outboard of the A/C system.
>>
>> [cid:da0fdac9-8741-4e03-b676-ebaa4760fb6f at namprd18.prod.outlook.com<mailto:8741-4e03-b676-ebaa4760fb6f at namprd18.prod.outlook.com><mai
>> lto:da0fdac9-8741-4e03-b676-ebaa4760fb6f at namprd18.prod.outlook.com<mailto:8741-4e03-b676-ebaa4760fb6f at namprd18.prod.outlook.com>>]
>> Mike
>> Sent from my iPhone
>> On Sep 15, 2016, at 15:41, "David Nunn"
>> <dnunn at telus.net<mailto:dnunn at telus.net><mailto:dnunn at telus.net>> wrote:
>> Rob,
>> If I'm not mistaken, IPSCO sells a kit that modifies Kirk's kit. It
>> eliminates the "fitted", non-adjustable belt and makes it
>> adjustable.
>> It sure makes installation a lot easier. It's not listed on IPSCO's
>> web
>> site so you have to call or e-mail to get details.
>> Also, IPSCO has an idler pulley kit that makes installation and
>> belt
>> tensioning a breeze.
>> [1]http://www.ipsco.org/Pantera%20Parts/Idler%20Pulley.htm
>> References
>> 1. [1]http://www.ipsco.org/Pantera%20Parts/Idler%20Pulley.htm
>> [2][Idler%20Pulley.jpg]
>> [3]Idler Pulley - IPSCO, Pantera, Viper, Mechanical Parking ...
>> www.ipsco.org<http://www.ipsco.org><[136]http://www.ipsco.org>
>> Pantera Idler Pulley Assembly . Replacement for factory Idler
>> Pulley,
>> this assembly allow adjustment without trying to hold a wrench
>> behind
>> the bracket to tighten in ...
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>> 2. [138]http://www.ipsco.org/Pantera%20Parts/Idler%20Pulley.htm
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>> Date: Fri, 16 Sep 2016 16:26:53 -0600
>> From: bill <bill at incendium.com<mailto:bill at incendium.com><mailto:bill at incendium.com>>
>> To: michael frazier <red3644 at hotmail.com<mailto:red3644 at hotmail.com><mailto:red3644 at hotmail.com>>,
>>
>> "detomaso at server.detomasolist.com<mailto:detomaso at server.detomasolist.com><mailto:detomaso at server.detomasolist.c
>> om>"
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>> Subject: Re: [DeTomaso] NPC, Need transmission suggestions
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>> Michael:Screw that put a Ford flat head V8 in that suckered.?
>> CheersBill MooreCalgary
>> -------- Original message --------From: michael frazier
>> <red3644 at hotmail.com<mailto:red3644 at hotmail.com><mailto:red3644 at hotmail.com>> Date: 2016-09-16
>> 3:46 PM (GMT-07:00) To:
>> detomaso at server.detomasolist.com<mailto:detomaso at server.detomasolist.com><mailto:detomaso at server.detomasolist.co
>> m> Subject: [DeTomaso] NPC, Need transmission suggestions
>> Hi All,
>> I?m putting a 1951 Ford truck back on the road.? It sat in a barn since
>> 1961 and only has 25k miles,
>> but those were farm miles and it is beat though not rusted out.?
>> Beautiful Rat Rod patina that will
>> remain.? The frame is boxed and cross braced, and holds a complete
>> Jaguar XJ suspension front and back.
>> I plan to run a spare Cleveland, actually a real Boss 351, and want an
>> overdrive transmission.? Manual or
>> automatic, either one.? It won?t be drag raced but will be used
>> regularly and would likely be run in an
>> open road race some time.? That?s the reason for the overdrive.
>> I?ve been out of this part of the game for a while and was wondering
>> what would work well.
>> What would bolt up and work.? What would it come out of?
>> Any info and ideas would be greatly appreciated.
>> Michael
>> Sent from Mail<[144]https://go.microsoft.com/fwlink/?LinkId=550986> for
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>> ?? Hi All,
>> ?? I'm putting a 1951 Ford truck back on the road.? It sat in a barn
>> since
>> ?? 1961 and only has 25k miles,
>> ?? but those were farm miles and it is beat though not rusted out.
>> ?? Beautiful Rat Rod patina that will
>> ?? remain.? The frame is boxed and cross braced, and holds a complete
>> ?? Jaguar XJ suspension front and back.
>> ?? I plan to run a spare Cleveland, actually a real Boss 351, and want
>> an
>> ?? overdrive transmission.? Manual or
>> ?? automatic, either one.? It won't be drag raced but will be used
>> ?? regularly and would likely be run in an
>> ?? open road race some time.? That's the reason for the overdrive.
>> ?? I've been out of this part of the game for a while and was wondering
>> ?? what would work well.
>> ?? What would bolt up and work.? What would it come out of?
>> ?? Any info and ideas would be greatly appreciated.
>> ?? Michael
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>> Michael:
>> Screw that put a Ford flat head V8 in that suckered.
>> Cheers
>> Bill Moore
>> Calgary
>> -------- Original message --------
>> From: michael frazier
>> <red3644 at hotmail.com<mailto:red3644 at hotmail.com><mailto:red3644 at hotmail.com>>
>> Date: 2016-09-16 3:46 PM (GMT-07:00)
>> To:
>> detomaso at server.detomasolist.com<mailto:detomaso at server.detomasolist.com><mailto:detomaso at server.detomasolist.co
>> m>
>> Subject: [DeTomaso] NPC, Need transmission suggestions
>> Hi All,
>> I'm putting a 1951 Ford truck back on the road. It sat in a barn
>> since
>> 1961 and only has 25k miles,
>> but those were farm miles and it is beat though not rusted out.
>> Beautiful Rat Rod patina that will
>> remain. The frame is boxed and cross braced, and holds a complete
>> Jaguar XJ suspension front and back.
>> I plan to run a spare Cleveland, actually a real Boss 351, and
>> want an
>> overdrive transmission. Manual or
>> automatic, either one. It won't be drag raced but will be used
>> regularly and would likely be run in an
>> open road race some time. That's the reason for the overdrive.
>> I've been out of this part of the game for a while and was
>> wondering
>> what would work well.
>> What would bolt up and work. What would it come out of?
>> Any info and ideas would be greatly appreciated.
>> Michael
>> Sent from
>> Mail<[147]https://go.microsoft.com/fwlink/?LinkId=550986> for
>> Windows 10
>> Hi All,
>> I'm putting a 1951 Ford truck back on the road. It sat in a
>> barn
>> since
>> 1961 and only has 25k miles,
>> but those were farm miles and it is beat though not rusted out.
>> Beautiful Rat Rod patina that will
>> remain. The frame is boxed and cross braced, and holds a
>> complete
>> Jaguar XJ suspension front and back.
>> I plan to run a spare Cleveland, actually a real Boss 351, and
>> want
>> an
>> overdrive transmission. Manual or
>> automatic, either one. It won't be drag raced but will be used
>> regularly and would likely be run in an
>> open road race some time. That's the reason for the overdrive.
>> I've been out of this part of the game for a while and was
>> wondering
>> what would work well.
>> What would bolt up and work. What would it come out of?
>> Any info and ideas would be greatly appreciated.
>> Michael
>> Sent from [1]Mail for Windows 10
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>> Date: Fri, 16 Sep 2016 16:31:46 -0600
>> From: bill <bill at incendium.com<mailto:bill at incendium.com><mailto:bill at incendium.com>>
>> To: David Nunn <dnunn at telus.net<mailto:dnunn at telus.net><mailto:dnunn at telus.net>>, 'Mike Drew'
>> <MikeLDrew at aol.com<mailto:MikeLDrew at aol.com><mailto:MikeLDrew at aol.com>>,
>> 'Julian Kift'
>> <julian_kift at hotmail.com<mailto:julian_kift at hotmail.com><mailto:julian_kift at hotmail.com>>
>> Cc:
>> detomaso at server.detomasolist.com<mailto:detomaso at server.detomasolist.com><mailto:detomaso at server.detomasolist.co
>> m>
>> Subject: Re: [DeTomaso] Sanden Compressors noises
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>> Wow !,,,,
>> That looks to nice to cover up.....
>> CheersBill MooreCalgary
>> -------- Original message --------From: David Nunn
>> <dnunn at telus.net<mailto:dnunn at telus.net><mailto:dnunn at telus.net>> Date: 2016-09-16 4:04 PM
>> (GMT-07:00) To: 'Mike Drew'
>> <MikeLDrew at aol.com<mailto:MikeLDrew at aol.com><mailto:MikeLDrew at aol.com>>, 'Julian Kift'
>> <julian_kift at hotmail.com<mailto:julian_kift at hotmail.com><mailto:julian_kift at hotmail.com>> Cc:
>> detomaso at server.detomasolist.com<mailto:detomaso at server.detomasolist.com><mailto:detomaso at server.detomasolist.co
>> m> Subject: Re: [DeTomaso] Sanden Compressors noises
>> Julian,
>> Further to what Mike wrote; here's a photo of the front of my engine,
>> with
>> both IPSCO items installed.
>> David
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: Mike Drew [[150]mailto:MikeLDrew at aol.com]
>> Sent: September 16, 2016 2:19 PM
>> To: Julian Kift
>> <julian_kift at hotmail.com<mailto:julian_kift at hotmail.com><mailto:julian_kift at hotmail.com>>
>> Cc: David Nunn <dnunn at telus.net<mailto:dnunn at telus.net><mailto:dnunn at telus.net>>;
>> detomaso at server.detomasolist.com<mailto:detomaso at server.detomasolist.com><mailto:detomaso at server.detomasolist.co
>> m>
>> Subject: Re: [DeTomaso] Sanden Compressors noises
>> Julian,
>> Yes, he mentioned two different products for different applications but
>> only
>> had a link for the stock replacement idler. My photo shows the idler
>> that
>> replaces the alternator to tension the water pump belt.
>> Mike
>> Sent from my iPhone
>> On Sep 16, 2016, at 14:16, Julian Kift
>> <julian_kift at hotmail.com<mailto:julian_kift at hotmail.com><mailto:julian_kift at hotmail.com>> wrote:
>> ?? Mike,
>> ?? It gets even better, that looks to be a different idler again, the
>> one
>> ?? that was previously linked appears to go in the stock location, but
>> was
>> ?? adjustable from the front negating the usual need to get a wrench on
>> ?? the rear.
>> ?? Julian
>> ???? __________________________________________________________________
>> ?? From: DeTomaso
>> <detomaso-bounces at server.detomasolist.com<mailto:detomaso-bounces at server.detomasolist.com><mailto:detomaso-bounces at serve
>> r.detomasolist.com<http://r.detomasolist.com>>> on behalf of
>> ?? Mike Drew via DeTomaso
>> <detomaso at server.detomasolist.com<mailto:detomaso at server.detomasolist.com><mailto:detomaso at server.detomasolist.c
>> om>>
>> ?? Sent: Friday, September 16, 2016 2:11 PM
>> ?? To: David Nunn
>> ?? Cc:
>> <detomaso at server.detomasolist.com<mailto:detomaso at server.detomasolist.com><mailto:detomaso at server.detomasolist.c
>> om>>
>> ?? Subject: Re: [DeTomaso] Sanden Compressors noises
>> ?? All,
>> ?? Here is a photo of the IPSCO water pump idler pulley setup. Note
>> there
>> ?? is no alternator in view, as this car is fitted with a flat firewall
>> ?? kit that moves the alternator outboard of the A/C system.
>> ??
>> [cid:da0fdac9-8741-4e03-b676-ebaa4760fb6f at namprd18.prod.outlook.com<mailto:8741-4e03-b676-ebaa4760fb6f at namprd18.prod.outlook.com><mai
>> lto:da0fdac9-8741-4e03-b676-ebaa4760fb6f at namprd18.prod.outlook.com<mailto:8741-4e03-b676-ebaa4760fb6f at namprd18.prod.outlook.com>>]
>> ?? Mike
>> ?? Sent from my iPhone
>> ?? On Sep 15, 2016, at 15:41, "David Nunn"
>> <dnunn at telus.net<mailto:dnunn at telus.net><mailto:dnunn at telus.net>> wrote:
>> ? Rob,
>> ? If I'm not mistaken, IPSCO sells a kit that modifies Kirk's kit. It?
>> eliminates the "fitted", non-adjustable belt and makes it
>> ?? adjustable.
>> ? It sure makes installation a lot easier. It's not listed on IPSCO's
>> ?? web
>> ? site so you have to call or e-mail to get details.
>> ? Also, IPSCO has an idler pulley kit that makes installation and
>> ?? belt
>> ? tensioning a breeze.
>> ? [1]http://www.ipsco.org/Pantera%20Parts/Idler%20Pulley.htm
>> References
>> ? 1. [1]http://www.ipsco.org/Pantera%20Parts/Idler%20Pulley.htm
>> ?? [2][Idler%20Pulley.jpg]
>> ?? [3]Idler Pulley - IPSCO, Pantera, Viper, Mechanical Parking ...
>> ?? www.ipsco.org<http://www.ipsco.org><[151]http://www.ipsco.org>
>> ?? Pantera Idler Pulley Assembly . Replacement for factory Idler
>> Pulley,
>> ?? this assembly allow adjustment without trying to hold a wrench
>> behind
>> ?? the bracket to tighten in ...
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>> ?? 1. [152]http://www.ipsco.org/Pantera%20Parts/Idler%20Pulley.htm
>> ?? 2. [153]http://www.ipsco.org/Pantera%20Parts/Idler%20Pulley.htm
>> ?? 3. [154]http://www.ipsco.org/Pantera%20Parts/Idler%20Pulley.htm
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>> Wow !,,,,
>> That looks to nice to cover up.....
>> Cheers
>> Bill Moore
>> Calgary
>> -------- Original message --------
>> From: David Nunn <dnunn at telus.net<mailto:dnunn at telus.net><mailto:dnunn at telus.net>>
>> Date: 2016-09-16 4:04 PM (GMT-07:00)
>> To: 'Mike Drew' <MikeLDrew at aol.com<mailto:MikeLDrew at aol.com><mailto:MikeLDrew at aol.com>>,
>> 'Julian Kift'
>> <julian_kift at hotmail.com<mailto:julian_kift at hotmail.com><mailto:julian_kift at hotmail.com>>
>> Cc:
>> detomaso at server.detomasolist.com<mailto:detomaso at server.detomasolist.com><mailto:detomaso at server.detomasolist.co
>> m>
>> Subject: Re: [DeTomaso] Sanden Compressors noises
>> Julian,
>> Further to what Mike wrote; here's a photo of the front of my
>> engine,
>> with
>> both IPSCO items installed.
>> David
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: Mike Drew [[159]mailto:MikeLDrew at aol.com]
>> Sent: September 16, 2016 2:19 PM
>> To: Julian Kift
>> <julian_kift at hotmail.com<mailto:julian_kift at hotmail.com><mailto:julian_kift at hotmail.com>>
>> Cc: David Nunn <dnunn at telus.net<mailto:dnunn at telus.net><mailto:dnunn at telus.net>>;
>> detomaso at server.detomasolist.com<mailto:detomaso at server.detomasolist.com><mailto:detomaso at server.detomasolist.co
>> m>
>> Subject: Re: [DeTomaso] Sanden Compressors noises
>> Julian,
>> Yes, he mentioned two different products for different
>> applications but
>> only
>> had a link for the stock replacement idler. My photo shows the
>> idler
>> that
>> replaces the alternator to tension the water pump belt.
>> Mike
>> Sent from my iPhone
>> On Sep 16, 2016, at 14:16, Julian Kift
>> <julian_kift at hotmail.com<mailto:julian_kift at hotmail.com><mailto:julian_kift at hotmail.com>> wrote:
>>> Mike,
>>>
>>> It gets even better, that looks to be a different idler again,
>> the
>> one
>>> that was previously linked appears to go in the stock
>> location, but
>> was
>>> adjustable from the front negating the usual need to get a
>> wrench
>> on
>>> the rear.
>>> Julian
>> __________________________________________________________________
>>>
>>> From: DeTomaso
>> <detomaso-bounces at server.detomasolist.com<mailto:detomaso-bounces at server.detomasolist.com><mailto:detomaso-bounces at serve
>> r.detomasolist.com<http://r.detomasolist.com>>> on behalf
>> of
>>> Mike Drew via DeTomaso
>> <detomaso at server.detomasolist.com<mailto:detomaso at server.detomasolist.com><mailto:detomaso at server.detomasolist.c
>> om>>
>>> Sent: Friday, September 16, 2016 2:11 PM
>>> To: David Nunn
>>> Cc:
>> <detomaso at server.detomasolist.com<mailto:detomaso at server.detomasolist.com><mailto:detomaso at server.detomasolist.c
>> om>>
>>> Subject: Re: [DeTomaso] Sanden Compressors noises
>>>
>>> All,
>>> Here is a photo of the IPSCO water pump idler pulley setup.
>> Note
>> there
>>> is no alternator in view, as this car is fitted with a flat
>> firewall
>>> kit that moves the alternator outboard of the A/C system.
>>
>> [cid:da0fdac9-8741-4e03-b676-ebaa4760fb6f at namprd18.prod.outlook.com<mailto:8741-4e03-b676-ebaa4760fb6f at namprd18.prod.outlook.com><mai
>> lto:da0fdac9-8741-4e03-b676-ebaa4760fb6f at namprd18.prod.outlook.com<mailto:8741-4e03-b676-ebaa4760fb6f at namprd18.prod.outlook.com>>]
>>> Mike
>>> Sent from my iPhone
>>> On Sep 15, 2016, at 15:41, "David Nunn"
>> <dnunn at telus.net<mailto:dnunn at telus.net><mailto:dnunn at telus.net>> wrote:
>>>> Rob,
>>>>
>>>> If I'm not mistaken, IPSCO sells a kit that modifies Kirk's
>> kit.
>> It
>>>> eliminates the "fitted", non-adjustable belt and makes it
>>> adjustable.
>>>> It sure makes installation a lot easier. It's not listed on
>> IPSCO's
>>> web
>>>> site so you have to call or e-mail to get details.
>>>>
>>>> Also, IPSCO has an idler pulley kit that makes installation
>> and
>>> belt
>>>> tensioning a breeze.
>>>>
>>>> [1]http://www.ipsco.org/Pantera%20Parts/Idler%20Pulley.htm
>>>>
>>>> References
>>>>
>>>> 1. [1]http://www.ipsco.org/Pantera%20Parts/Idler%20Pulley.htm
>>> [2][Idler%20Pulley.jpg]
>>> [3]Idler Pulley - IPSCO, Pantera, Viper, Mechanical Parking
>> ...
>>> www.ipsco.org<http://www.ipsco.org><[160]http://www.ipsco.org>
>>> Pantera Idler Pulley Assembly . Replacement for factory Idler
>> Pulley,
>>> this assembly allow adjustment without trying to hold a wrench
>> behind
>>> the bracket to tighten in ...
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>> [161]http://www.ipsco.org/Pantera%20Parts/Idler%20Pulley.htm
>>> 2.
>> [162]http://www.ipsco.org/Pantera%20Parts/Idler%20Pulley.htm
>>> 3.
>> [163]http://www.ipsco.org/Pantera%20Parts/Idler%20Pulley.htm
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Thanks for that, I had no idea there were so many formulas
Sent from Michael's iPhone
On 17 Sep 2016, at 21:02, Julian Kift <[1]julian_kift at hotmail.com>
wrote:
The Mobil 1 Racing has the highest ZDDP at 1750 as it does not have to
comply with the mandated specs for street use.
The other weights of Mobil 1 have varying amounts of ZDDP, it looks
like the 0-40W FS has 1,000 ppm which I think is the upper limit
allowable for the SF rating compliance. Here's the 2016 specs of the
various Mobil 1 offerings;
[2]https://mobiloil.com/~/media/amer/us/pvl/files/pdfs/mobil-1-oil-prod
uct-specs-guide-2016.pdf
With your new rebuild you'll ideally want to use a good break in oil
initially to get the rings seated etc.
Julian
__________________________________________________________________
From: DeTomaso <[3]detomaso-bounces at server.detomasolist.com> on behalf
of Michael Barnes <[4]michaelbarnessrt10 at hotmail.co.uk>
Sent: Saturday, September 17, 2016 12:37 PM
To: Dave Londry
Cc: [5]detomaso at server.detomasolist.com
Subject: Re: [DeTomaso] Oil Suggestions
So , is synthetic compatible with our Cleveland engines, say 0-40 ? My
engine is currently being upgraded and I am hoping to use Mobil One
Sent from Michael's iPhone
> On 17 Sep 2016, at 19:12, Dave Londry <[6]davel at emspace.com> wrote:
>
> Ever since the specs on Mobil 1 went to hell I've been using Rotella
T6.
> It's got a great set of specs and they've been keeping them stable.
>
> And just to keep the discussion lively -
>
> ***A synthetic is superior in every aspect of lubrication.***
> Dave
>
>
>> On 2016-09-17 10:47 AM, Julian Kift wrote:
>> Traditionally diesel oils have high levels of detergents to deal
with
>> the high sulfur, acidic conditions and higher heat etc. however
with
>> the advent of low sulfur diesels they have come closer to
gasoline
>> formulations. In fact there are a number of "Full fleet' oils
designed
>> for use in both gasoline and diesel engines now. What diesel oils
do
>> have is a high level of ZDDP required for older flat tappet
>> cams (Rotella T is 1200 ppm ZDDP) and Rotella T is actually
recommended
>> by the Porsche Club of America.
>>
>> I do think there's a bit of a contradiction in terms between
"Rotella
>> Type T 15W40" "I like to use the best oil" and "No synthetics";
no
>> doubt synthetics are more robust than dinosaur oil and the
Rotella T
>> oils are now split into varying T grades T1 straight grade, T4
triple
>> protection , T5 synthetic and T6 a synthetic extreme temperature.
All
>> have 1200 ppm of ZDDP as far as I can ascertain so the T6 would
be the
>> best, although I'm sure the lesser will do the job.
>>
>> Yes it's confusing, but not rocket science....
>>
>> Personally I use Amsoil Z-Rod in my classic cars and have one of
their
>> preferred customer accounts for discount as I also buy pure
racing oils
>> and marine products.
>>
>> Julian
>>
__________________________________________________________________
>>
>> From: DeTomaso <[7]detomaso-bounces at server.detomasolist.com> on
behalf of
>> Himes, Terry (397C) <[8]terry.himes at jpl.nasa.gov>
>> Sent: Saturday, September 17, 2016 9:50 AM
>> To: [9]detomaso at server.detomasolist.com
>> Subject: [DeTomaso] Oil Suggestions
>>
>> Good Morning Everyone,
>> I don't want to startup the oil discussion again. But does
anyone have
>> thoughts on
>> Rotella Type T 15w40. Which is a heavy duty diesel oil. It was
>> suggested by a local
>> Mustang shop. I like to use the best oil. No synthetics.
>> My rebuilt 351c (nothing fancy done, just the normal upgrades)
has
>> about 3,500 miles
>> on it and running great.
>> Thanks so much.
>> Terry
>> "A Purple Heart proves you were smart enough to hatch a plan,
>> stupid enough to try it and lucky enough to survive!"
>> Terry W. Himes
>> JPL Jet Propulsion Laboratory
>> Dawn Spacecraft Team
>> Rosetta Sequence Team Lead
>> Phone: (818) 393-6261
>> Cell: (818) 653-8213
>> Fax: (818) 393-3147
>> [10]thimes at jpl.nasa.gov<[1][11]mailto:thimes at jpl.nasa.gov>
>> From: DeTomaso
>>
<[12]detomaso-bounces at server.detomasolist.com<mailto:detomaso-bounces at s
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>> [13]r.detomasolist.com>> on behalf of Julian Kift
>> <[14]julian_kift at hotmail.com<[15]mailto:julian_kift at hotmail.com>>
>> Date: Saturday, September 17, 2016 7:56 AM
>> To: Owen Cooke
<[16]owen at tadhgcooke.com<[17]mailto:owen at tadhgcooke.com>>,
>>
"[18]detomaso at server.detomasolist.com<[19]mailto:detomaso at server.detoma
solist.c
>> om>"
>>
<[20]detomaso at server.detomasolist.com<[21]mailto:detomaso at server.detoma
solist.c
>> om>>
>> Subject: Re: [DeTomaso] DeTomaso Digest, Vol 147, Issue 19
>> It's great to hear that you now have a functioning cooling
system,
>> although I have to wonder which of the particular changes
contributed
>> most, I suspect the thermostat housing being blocked off was a
bulk of
>> the problem.
>> I had a similar experience when I got my first Pantera, it
overheated
>> in traffic, so I jumped on the web found all these articles about
>> swapping radiators and fans etc. and duly went and purchased a
setup.
>> When I got to going through the car checking the thermostat I
found it
>> was a Windsor style, I swapped it for the correct Cleveland
t-stat and
>> voila heating issues resolved.
>> It's just a reminder to check the simple stuff prior to laying
out big
>> $$$, even now I think there are still a lot of myths' perpetuated
about
>> these cars... like someone once said "why let the truth get in
the way
>> of a good story"
>> Julian
>> ________________________________
>> From: DeTomaso
>>
<[22]detomaso-bounces at server.detomasolist.com<mailto:detomaso-bounces at s
erve
>> [23]r.detomasolist.com>> on behalf of Owen Cooke
>> <[24]owen at tadhgcooke.com<[25]mailto:owen at tadhgcooke.com>>
>> Sent: Saturday, September 17, 2016 2:19 AM
>> To:
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[26]detomaso at server.detomasolist.com<[27]mailto:detomaso at server.detomas
olist.co
>> m>
>> Subject: Re: [DeTomaso] DeTomaso Digest, Vol 147, Issue 19
>> guys
>> i had overheating problems
>> i put in a new hall brass rad but my car had bleed pipe from the
rad
>> back to the swirl tank and no fitting in halls rad for it apart
from a
>> top bleed screw
>> so i made a junction to fit the original bleed screw and the
bleed pipe
>> to it
>> then new mariah (is that the right name) that fir on the stock
brackets
>> and wired them directly from the battery to the relays
>> i found the hole under the thermostat was blocked with solder
>> i removed that and fitted a new stat
>> now all is perfect temp wise - warms up steady and holds the 90c
or
>> 195f in all conditions
>> my gauge with sender in block beside the pump/stat ready 150f but
its
>> steady and i know what to expect
>> very happy with result
>> owen cooke
>> On 16/09/2016 23:31,
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>> 3. Tires for Grp IV Flared Car (MyCars)
>> 4. Re: Tires for Grp IV Flared Car (LSJ)
>> 5. Re: Fans and shroud (Jack Donahue)
>> 6. Re: Fans and shroud (Jack Donahue)
>> 7. Re: Fans and shroud (Larry Stock)
>> 8. McLeod hydraulic throw out (Cullen McCann)
>> 9. Re: Fans and shroud (Ken Green)
>> 10. McLeod hydraulic throw out (Larry Finch)
>> 11. Re: Tires for Grp IV Flared Car (MyCars)
>> 12. Re: Tires for Grp IV Flared Car (MyCars)
>> 13. Re: McLeod hydraulic throw out (Will Kooiman)
>> 14. Re: McLeod hydraulic throw out (Cullen McCann)
>> 15. Re: McLeod hydraulic throw out (Larry Stock)
>> 16. Re: Sanden Compressors noises (Mike Drew)
>> 17. Re: Sanden Compressors noises (Julian Kift)
>> 18. Re: Sanden Compressors noises (Mike Drew)
>> 19. Re: McLeod hydraulic throw out (Larry Finch)
>> 20. Re: McLeod hydraulic throw out (Cullen McCann)
>> 21. NPC, Need transmission suggestions (michael frazier)
>> 22. Re: Sanden Compressors noises (David Nunn)
>> 23. Re: NPC, Need transmission suggestions (bill)
>> 24. Re: Sanden Compressors noises (bill)
>>
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>> Message: 1
>> Date: Fri, 16 Sep 2016 09:29:46 -0700
>> From: Jack Donahue
<[40]demongusta at gmail.com<[41]mailto:demongusta at gmail.com>>
>> To:
>>
"[42]detomaso at server.detomasolist.com<[43]mailto:detomaso at server.detoma
solist.c
>> om>"
>>
>>
<[44]detomaso at server.detomasolist.com<[45]mailto:detomaso at server.detoma
solist.c
>> om>>
>> Cc:
>>
"[46]detomaso at server.detomasolist.com<[47]mailto:detomaso at server.detoma
solist.c
>> om>"
>>
>>
<[48]detomaso at server.detomasolist.com<[49]mailto:detomaso at server.detoma
solist.c
>> om>>
>> Subject: [DeTomaso] Fans and shroud
>> Message-ID:
>>
<[50]CF682A66-9CF9-422E-AD65-2D23A9ABE4BC at gmail.com<mailto:CF682A66-9CF
9-42
>> [51]2E-AD65-2D23A9ABE4BC at gmail.com>>
>> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8
>> Hey all - A few weeks ago I was talking asking The List about
>> radiators - all said-and-done, I decided on the Hall radiator,
since I
>> wanted brass/copper instead of aluminum. And, yes Mike Drew, I
have to
>> admit it?s because I want to, not necessarily NEED to. It ain?t
broke,
>> but I am fixing it(?). Didn?t want to admit that, but...Lol.
There
>> really is an ulterior motive, but I just don?t want to mention it
right
>> now; but I ran my idea past Brassworks - who says they will
>> ?build-to-suit? - but the Hall unit looks to be
?tried-and-proven?.
>> Now - fans. I really don?t know the brand name of my fans, but
they are
>> suckers - about 12? diameter - and the blades are ?curved? -
>> sickle-shaped. The names that been bouncing around are Mariah,
SPAL,
>> and Flex-a-lite. I had read someone?s post about the
Flex-a-lite?s
>> since they said they can be - or are - mounted in a shroud that
is a
>> perfect match for the Pantera radiator size. I think. And someone
>> offered-up a part number, but I deleted (or lost) it. All normal
for
>> me.
>> So - I am ready for opinions/suggestions:
>> jack
>> #4348
>> ------------------------------
>> Message: 2
>> Date: Fri, 16 Sep 2016 16:54:05 +0000
>> From: "Himes, Terry (397C)"
>>
<[52]terry.himes at jpl.nasa.gov<[53]mailto:terry.himes at jpl.nasa.gov>>
>> To: Jack Donahue
<[54]demongusta at gmail.com<[55]mailto:demongusta at gmail.com>>,
>>
>>
"[56]detomaso at server.detomasolist.com<[57]mailto:detomaso at server.detoma
solist.c
>> om>"
>>
<[58]detomaso at server.detomasolist.com<[59]mailto:detomaso at server.detoma
solist.c
>> om>>
>> Subject: Re: [DeTomaso] Fans and shroud
>> Message-ID:
>>
<D4016E9F.92F3B%[60]thimes at jpl.nasa.gov<mailto:D4016E9F.92F3B%[61]thime
s at jpl.na
>> [62]sa.gov>>
>> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8"
>> Jack,
>> Good stuff. I too am running the original radiator with new
fans. I'm
>> not going to change it
>> now but I will follow your progress. Someday I will have to deal
with
>> it. So keep posting and
>> I will keep saving the responses. ;-)
>> Terry
>> "A Purple Heart proves you were smart enough to hatch a plan,
>> stupid enough to try it and lucky enough to survive!"
>> Terry W. Himes
>> JPL Jet Propulsion Laboratory
>> Dawn Spacecraft Team
>> Rosetta Sequence Team Lead
>> Phone: (818) 393-6261
>> Cell: (818) 653-8213
>> Fax: (818) 393-3147
>>
[63]thimes at jpl.nasa.gov<[4][64]mailto:thimes at jpl.nasa.gov><[65]mailto:t
himes at jpl.na
>> [66]sa.gov>
>> ??
>> From: DeTomaso
>>
<[67]detomaso-bounces at server.detomasolist.com<mailto:detomaso-bounces at s
erve
>>
[68]r.detomasolist.com><[69]mailto:detomaso-bounces at server.detomasolist
.com>>
>> on behalf of Jack Donahue
>>
<[70]demongusta at gmail.com<[71]mailto:demongusta at gmail.com><mailto:demon
gusta at gm
>> [72]ail.com>>
>> Date: Friday, September 16, 2016 9:29 AM
>> To:
>>
"[73]detomaso at server.detomasolist.com<[74]mailto:detomaso at server.detoma
solist.c
>> om><[75]mailto:detomaso at server.detomasolist.com>"
>>
<[76]detomaso at server.detomasolist.com<[77]mailto:detomaso at server.detoma
solist.c
>> om><[78]mailto:detomaso at server.detomasolist.com>>
>> Cc:
>>
"[79]detomaso at server.detomasolist.com<[80]mailto:detomaso at server.detoma
solist.c
>> om><[81]mailto:detomaso at server.detomasolist.com>"
>>
<[82]detomaso at server.detomasolist.com<[83]mailto:detomaso at server.detoma
solist.c
>> om><[84]mailto:detomaso at server.detomasolist.com>>
>> Subject: [DeTomaso] Fans and shroud
>> Hey all - A few weeks ago I was talking asking The List about
>> radiators - all said-and-done, I decided on the Hall radiator,
since I
>> wanted brass/copper instead of aluminum. And, yes Mike Drew, I
have to
>> admit it?s because I want to, not necessarily NEED to. It ain?t
broke,
>> but I am fixing it(?). Didn?t want to admit that, but...Lol.
There
>> really is an ulterior motive, but I just don?t want to mention it
right
>> now; but I ran my idea past Brassworks - who says they will
>> ?build-to-suit? - but the Hall unit looks to be
?tried-and-proven?.
>> Now - fans. I really don?t know the brand name of my fans, but
they are
>> suckers - about 12? diameter - and the blades are ?curved? -
>> sickle-shaped. The names that been bouncing around are Mariah,
SPAL,
>> and Flex-a-lite. I had read someone?s post about the
Flex-a-lite?s
>> since they said they can be - or are - mounted in a shroud that
is a
>> perfect match for the Pantera radiator size. I think. And someone
>> offered-up a part number, but I deleted (or lost) it. All normal
for
>> me.
>> So - I am ready for opinions/suggestions:
>> jack
>> #4348
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>> Jack,
>> Good stuff. I too am running the original radiator with new
>> fans. I'm
>> not going to change it
>> now but I will follow your progress. Someday I will have to
deal
>> with
>> it. So keep posting and
>> I will keep saving the responses. ;-)
>> Terry
>> "A Purple Heart proves you were smart enough to hatch a
plan,
>> stupid enough to try it and lucky enough to survive!"
>> Terry W. Himes
>> JPL Jet Propulsion Laboratory
>> Dawn Spacecraft Team
>> Rosetta Sequence Team Lead
>> Phone: (818) 393-6261
>> Cell: (818) 653-8213
>> Fax: (818) 393-3147
>> [1][89]thimes at jpl.nasa.gov<[90]mailto:thimes at jpl.nasa.gov>
>> From: DeTomaso
>>
<[2][91]detomaso-bounces at server.detomasolist.com<mailto:detomaso-bounce
s at se
>> [92]rver.detomasolist.com>> on behalf
>> of Jack Donahue
>> <[3][93]demongusta at gmail.com<[94]mailto:demongusta at gmail.com>>
>> Date: Friday, September 16, 2016 9:29 AM
>> To:
>>
"[4][95]detomaso at server.detomasolist.com<[96]mailto:detomaso at server.det
omasolis
>> [97]t.com>"
>>
>>
<[5][98]detomaso at server.detomasolist.com<[99]mailto:detomaso at server.det
omasolis
>> [100]t.com>>
>> Cc:
>>
"[6][101]detomaso at server.detomasolist.com<[102]mailto:detomaso at server.d
etomasolis
>> [103]t.com>"
>>
>>
<[7][104]detomaso at server.detomasolist.com<[105]mailto:detomaso at server.d
etomasolis
>> [106]t.com>>
>> Subject: [DeTomaso] Fans and shroud
>> Hey all - A few weeks ago I was talking asking The List
>> about radiators - all said-and-done, I decided on the Hall
>> radiator,
>> since I wanted brass/copper instead of aluminum. And, yes
Mike
>> Drew, I
>> have to admit it's because I want to, not necessarily NEED
to. It
>> ain't
>> broke, but I am fixing it(?). Didn't want to admit that,
>> but...Lol.
>> There really is an ulterior motive, but I just don't want to
>> mention it
>> right now; but I ran my idea past Brassworks - who says
they
>> will
>> "build-to-suit" - but the Hall unit looks to be
>> "tried-and-proven".
>> Now - fans. I really don't know the brand name of my fans,
but
>> they are
>> suckers - about 12" diameter - and the blades are "curved"
-
>> sickle-shaped. The names that been bouncing around are
Mariah,
>> SPAL,
>> and Flex-a-lite. I had read someone's post about the
Flex-a-lite's
>> since they said they can be - or are - mounted in a shroud
that is
>> a
>> perfect match for the Pantera radiator size. I think. And
someone
>> offered-up a part number, but I deleted (or lost) it. All
normal
>> for
>> me.
>> So - I am ready for opinions/suggestions:
>> jack
>> #4348
>> _______________________________________________
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>> 3. [8][112]mailto:demongusta at gmail.com
>> 4. [9][113]mailto:detomaso at server.detomasolist.com
>> 5. [10][114]mailto:detomaso at server.detomasolist.com
>> 6. [11][115]mailto:detomaso at server.detomasolist.com
>> 7. [12][116]mailto:detomaso at server.detomasolist.com
>> 8. [13][117]mailto:DeTomaso at server.detomasolist.com
>> 9.
[14][118]http://server.detomasolist.com/mailman/listinfo/detomaso
>> ------------------------------
>> Message: 3
>> Date: Fri, 16 Sep 2016 10:03:20 -0700
>> From: MyCars
<[119]mycars at comcast.net<[120]mailto:mycars at comcast.net>>
>> To:
>>
[121]detomaso at server.detomasolist.com<[122]mailto:detomaso at server.detom
asolist.co
>> m>
>> Subject: [DeTomaso] Tires for Grp IV Flared Car
>> Message-ID:
>>
<[123]6fa00360-0d5e-3618-1132-2455f7b0aca2 at comcast.net<mailto:6fa00360-
0d5e-
>> [124]3618-1132-2455f7b0aca2 at comcast.net>>
>> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8; format=flowed
>> I just bought 345-35 R15 Pirelli Asimmetrico (24.8" tall) tires
for the
>> rear and wondering what would be a good match for the front.
>> I found 225-50 R15 Pirelli P Zero Trofeo R (23.9" tall). This
would
>> give
>> the car a bit of rake, but what would the handling be like?
>> Thanks in advance for your thoughts
>> Roy
>> ------------------------------
>> Message: 4
>> Date: Fri, 16 Sep 2016 17:08:50 +0000 (UTC)
>> From: LSJ
<[125]lashdeep at yahoo.com<[126]mailto:lashdeep at yahoo.com>>
>> To: MyCars
<[127]mycars at comcast.net<[128]mailto:mycars at comcast.net>>,
>>
"[129]detomaso at server.detomasolist.com<[130]mailto:detomaso at server.deto
masolist.c
>> om>"
>>
>>
<[131]detomaso at server.detomasolist.com<[132]mailto:detomaso at server.deto
masolist.c
>> om>>
>> Subject: Re: [DeTomaso] Tires for Grp IV Flared Car
>> Message-ID:
>>
<[133]1287234121.1004140.1474045730621 at mail.yahoo.com<mailto:1287234121
.1004
>> [134]140.1474045730621 at mail.yahoo.com>>
>> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8"
>> What size wheel up front?
>> ?LSJ
>> central wines-spirits?? est 1934
>> 625 e street nw
>> washington, dc 20004
>> [135]centralwines.com
>> [136]facebook.com/CentralLiquors
>> 202-737-2800
>> From: MyCars
<[137]mycars at comcast.net<[138]mailto:mycars at comcast.net>>
>> To:
>>
[139]detomaso at server.detomasolist.com<[140]mailto:detomaso at server.detom
asolist.co
>> m>
>> Sent: Friday, September 16, 2016 1:03 PM
>> Subject: [DeTomaso] Tires for Grp IV Flared Car
>> I just bought 345-35 R15 Pirelli Asimmetrico (24.8" tall) tires
for the
>> rear and wondering what would be a good match for the front.
>> I found 225-50 R15 Pirelli P Zero Trofeo R (23.9" tall). This
would
>> give
>> the car a bit of rake, but what would the handling be like?
>> Thanks in advance for your thoughts
>> Roy
>> _______________________________________________
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>> What size wheel up front?
>> LSJ
>> central
>> wines-spirits est 1934
>> 625 e street nw
>> washington, dc 20004
>> [1][144]centralwines.com
>> [2][145]facebook.com/CentralLiquors
>> 202-737-2800
>>
>>
__________________________________________________________________
>> From: MyCars
<[146]mycars at comcast.net<[147]mailto:mycars at comcast.net>>
>> To:
>>
[148]detomaso at server.detomasolist.com<[149]mailto:detomaso at server.detom
asolist.co
>> m>
>> Sent: Friday, September 16, 2016 1:03 PM
>> Subject: [DeTomaso] Tires for Grp IV Flared Car
>> I just bought 345-35 R15 Pirelli Asimmetrico (24.8" tall)
tires
>> for the
>> rear and wondering what would be a good match for the front.
>> I found 225-50 R15 Pirelli P Zero Trofeo R (23.9" tall).
This
>> would
>> give
>> the car a bit of rake, but what would the handling be like?
>> Thanks in advance for your thoughts
>> Roy
>> _______________________________________________
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>> References
>> 1. [16][153]http://centralwines.com/
>> 2. [17][154]http://facebook.com/CentralLiquors
>> 3. [18][155]mailto:DeTomaso at server.detomasolist.com
>> 4.
[19][156]http://server.detomasolist.com/mailman/listinfo/detomaso
>> ------------------------------
>> Message: 5
>> Date: Fri, 16 Sep 2016 10:13:05 -0700
>> From: Jack Donahue
<[157]demongusta at gmail.com<[158]mailto:demongusta at gmail.com>>
>> To: "Himes, Terry (397C)"
>>
<[159]terry.himes at jpl.nasa.gov<[160]mailto:terry.himes at jpl.nasa.gov>>
>> Cc:
>>
"[161]detomaso at server.detomasolist.com<[162]mailto:detomaso at server.deto
masolist.c
>> om>"
>>
>>
<[163]detomaso at server.detomasolist.com<[164]mailto:detomaso at server.deto
masolist.c
>> om>>
>> Subject: Re: [DeTomaso] Fans and shroud
>> Message-ID:
>>
<[165]09791B61-DE0D-40CC-859D-437A8528952A at gmail.com<mailto:09791B61-DE
0D-40
>> [166]CC-859D-437A8528952A at gmail.com>>
>> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8"
>> Terry - I don?t have the original radiator - I currently have a
>> Fluidyne with twin suckers, tilted forward, and A/C condenser in
front.
>> Originally, I wanted to just add a shroud, based on a friend of
mine
>> who does some serious off-road driving - he swears by a shroud -
says
>> it really made a difference for him and that I should AT LEAST
get one
>> for the whole ?Pantera-Heat-Prevention Program. That sounds good
-
>> (PHPP). Anyway, the more I looked into things, the more I was
>> ?converted" to brass/copper as it seems to be more reliable -
and more
>> repairable (which I like).
>> jack
>> On Sep 16, 2016, at 9:54 AM, Himes, Terry (397C)
>>
<[167]terry.himes at jpl.nasa.gov<[168]mailto:terry.himes at jpl.nasa.gov>>
wrote:
>> Jack,
>> Good stuff. I too am running the original radiator with new
fans. I'm
>> not going to change it
>> now but I will follow your progress. Someday I will have to deal
with
>> it. So keep posting and
>> I will keep saving the responses. ;-)
>> Terry
>> "A Purple Heart proves you were smart enough to hatch a plan,
>> stupid enough to try it and lucky enough to survive!"
>> Terry W. Himes
>> JPL Jet Propulsion Laboratory
>> Dawn Spacecraft Team
>> Rosetta Sequence Team Lead
>> Phone: (818) 393-6261
>> Cell: (818) 653-8213
>> Fax: (818) 393-3147
>> [169]thimes at jpl.nasa.gov<[20][170]mailto:thimes at jpl.nasa.gov>
>> <[21][171]mailto:thimes at jpl.nasa.gov>
>> ??
>> From: DeTomaso
>>
<[172]detomaso-bounces at server.detomasolist.com<mailto:detomaso-bounces@
serve
>> [173]r.detomasolist.com>
>> <[22][174]mailto:detomaso-bounces at server.detomasolist.com>> on
behalf of
>> Jack Donahue
<[175]demongusta at gmail.com<[176]mailto:demongusta at gmail.com>
>> <[23][177]mailto:demongusta at gmail.com>>
>> Date: Friday, September 16, 2016 9:29 AM
>> To:
>>
"[178]detomaso at server.detomasolist.com<[179]mailto:detomaso at server.deto
masolist.c
>> om> <[24][180]mailto:detomaso at server.detomasolist.com>"
>>
<[181]detomaso at server.detomasolist.com<[182]mailto:detomaso at server.deto
masolist.c
>> om> <[25][183]mailto:detomaso at server.detomasolist.com>>
>> Cc:
>>
"[184]detomaso at server.detomasolist.com<[185]mailto:detomaso at server.deto
masolist.c
>> om> <[26][186]mailto:detomaso at server.detomasolist.com>"
>>
<[187]detomaso at server.detomasolist.com<[188]mailto:detomaso at server.deto
masolist.c
>> om> <[27][189]mailto:detomaso at server.detomasolist.com>>
>> Subject: [DeTomaso] Fans and shroud
>> Hey all - A few weeks ago I was talking asking The List about
>> radiators - all said-and-done, I decided on the Hall radiator,
since I
>> wanted brass/copper instead of aluminum. And, yes Mike Drew, I
have to
>> admit it?s because I want to, not necessarily NEED to. It ain?t
broke,
>> but I am fixing it(?). Didn?t want to admit that, but...Lol.
There
>> really is an ulterior motive, but I just don?t want to mention it
right
>> now; but I ran my idea past Brassworks - who says they will
>> ?build-to-suit? - but the Hall unit looks to be
?tried-and-proven?.
>> Now - fans. I really don?t know the brand name of my fans, but
they are
>> suckers - about 12? diameter - and the blades are ?curved? -
>> sickle-shaped. The names that been bouncing around are Mariah,
SPAL,
>> and Flex-a-lite. I had read someone?s post about the
Flex-a-lite?s
>> since they said they can be - or are - mounted in a shroud that
is a
>> perfect match for the Pantera radiator size. I think. And someone
>> offered-up a part number, but I deleted (or lost) it. All normal
for
>> me.
>> So - I am ready for opinions/suggestions:
>> jack
>> #4348
>> _______________________________________________
>> Detomaso Email List is not managed by POCA
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asolist.co
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>> [29][193]http://server.detomasolist.com/mailman/listinfo/detomaso
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>> -------------- next part --------------
>> Terry - I don't have the original radiator - I currently
have a
>> Fluidyne with twin suckers, tilted forward, and A/C
condenser in
>> front.
>> Originally, I wanted to just add a shroud, based on a friend
of
>> mine
>> who does some serious off-road driving - he swears by a
shroud -
>> says
>> it really made a difference for him and that I should AT
LEAST get
>> one
>> for the whole "Pantera-Heat-Prevention Program. That sounds
good -
>> (PHPP). Anyway, the more I looked into things, the more I
was
>> "converted" to brass/copper as it seems to be more reliable
- and
>> more
>> repairable (which I like).
>> jack
>> On Sep 16, 2016, at 9:54 AM, Himes, Terry (397C)
>>
<[1][195]terry.himes at jpl.nasa.gov<[196]mailto:terry.himes at jpl.nasa.gov>
>
>> wrote:
>> Jack,
>> Good stuff. I too am running the original radiator with new
>> fans. I'm
>> not going to change it
>> now but I will follow your progress. Someday I will have to
deal
>> with
>> it. So keep posting and
>> I will keep saving the responses. ;-)
>> Terry
>> "A Purple Heart proves you were smart enough to hatch a
plan,
>> stupid enough to try it and lucky enough to survive!"
>> Terry W. Himes
>> JPL Jet Propulsion Laboratory
>> Dawn Spacecraft Team
>> Rosetta Sequence Team Lead
>> Phone: (818) 393-6261
>> Cell: (818) 653-8213
>> Fax: (818) 393-3147
>> [2][197]thimes at jpl.nasa.gov<[198]mailto:thimes at jpl.nasa.gov>
>> From: DeTomaso
>>
<[3][199]detomaso-bounces at server.detomasolist.com<mailto:detomaso-bounc
es at se
>> [200]rver.detomasolist.com>> on behalf
>> of Jack Donahue
>> <[4][201]demongusta at gmail.com<[202]mailto:demongusta at gmail.com>>
>> Date: Friday, September 16, 2016 9:29 AM
>> To:
>>
"[5][203]detomaso at server.detomasolist.com<[204]mailto:detomaso at server.d
etomasolis
>> [205]t.com>"
>>
>>
<[6][206]detomaso at server.detomasolist.com<[207]mailto:detomaso at server.d
etomasolis
>> [208]t.com>>
>> Cc:
>>
"[7][209]detomaso at server.detomasolist.com<[210]mailto:detomaso at server.d
etomasolis
>> [211]t.com>"
>>
>>
<[8][212]detomaso at server.detomasolist.com<[213]mailto:detomaso at server.d
etomasolis
>> [214]t.com>>
>> Subject: [DeTomaso] Fans and shroud
>> Hey all - A few weeks ago I was talking asking The List
>> about radiators - all said-and-done, I decided on the Hall
>> radiator,
>> since I wanted brass/copper instead of aluminum. And, yes
Mike
>> Drew, I
>> have to admit it's because I want to, not necessarily NEED
to. It
>> ain't
>> broke, but I am fixing it(?). Didn't want to admit that,
>> but...Lol.
>> There really is an ulterior motive, but I just don't want to
>> mention it
>> right now; but I ran my idea past Brassworks - who says
they
>> will
>> "build-to-suit" - but the Hall unit looks to be
>> "tried-and-proven".
>> Now - fans. I really don't know the brand name of my fans,
but
>> they are
>> suckers - about 12" diameter - and the blades are "curved"
-
>> sickle-shaped. The names that been bouncing around are
Mariah,
>> SPAL,
>> and Flex-a-lite. I had read someone's post about the
Flex-a-lite's
>> since they said they can be - or are - mounted in a shroud
that is
>> a
>> perfect match for the Pantera radiator size. I think. And
someone
>> offered-up a part number, but I deleted (or lost) it. All
normal
>> for
>> me.
>> So - I am ready for opinions/suggestions:
>> jack
>> #4348
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>> 3. [33][220]mailto:detomaso-bounces at server.detomasolist.com
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>> 6. [36][223]mailto:detomaso at server.detomasolist.com
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>> 8. [38][225]mailto:detomaso at server.detomasolist.com
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>> Message: 6
>> Date: Fri, 16 Sep 2016 10:17:31 -0700
>> From: Jack Donahue
<[228]demongusta at gmail.com<[229]mailto:demongusta at gmail.com>>
>> To: [230]GR2835 at comcast.net<[41][231]mailto:GR2835 at comcast.net>
>> Cc:
>>
"[232]detomaso at server.detomasolist.com<[233]mailto:detomaso at server.deto
masolist.c
>> om>"
>>
>>
<[234]detomaso at server.detomasolist.com<[235]mailto:detomaso at server.deto
masolist.c
>> om>>
>> Subject: Re: [DeTomaso] Fans and shroud
>> Message-ID:
>>
<[236]2334BABE-726C-4D16-85EA-BB997B2B61CB at gmail.com<mailto:2334BABE-72
6C-4D
>> [237]16-85EA-BB997B2B61CB at gmail.com>>
>> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8
>> There-in lies one of my problems - I could never MAKE a shroud. I
wish
>> I could - maybe out of foil-wrap. I will check out that website,
>> thanks.
>> On Sep 16, 2016, at 10:07 AM,
>> [238]GR2835 at comcast.net<[42][239]mailto:GR2835 at comcast.net>
wrote:
>> Pantera Electronics has recommended fans with part numbers under
the
>> fan controller button on their website.
>> I have a stock radiator that was modified for lay down and air
>> conditioning condenser up front........I have a fan shroud that I
made
>> and mounted the 2 sucker fans. 192 thermostat ran 192 in a 14
mile
>> traffic jam last year that.took me 90 minutes to get
>> through.......temperature was 98 degrees leaving the 2015
Woodward
>> Cruise...........my wife complained that she was too cold with
the air
>> set on the warmest setting.
>> Good luck
>> Gerry in Illinois
>> ----- Original Message -----
>> From: Jack Donahue
<[240]demongusta at gmail.com<[241]mailto:demongusta at gmail.com>>
>> To:
>>
[242]detomaso at server.detomasolist.com<[243]mailto:detomaso at server.detom
asolist.co
>> m>
>> Cc:
>>
[244]detomaso at server.detomasolist.com<[245]mailto:detomaso at server.detom
asolist.co
>> m>
>> Sent: Fri, 16 Sep 2016 16:29:46 -0000 (UTC)
>> Subject: [DeTomaso] Fans and shroud
>> Hey all - A few weeks ago I was talking asking The List about
>> radiators - all said-and-done, I decided on the Hall radiator,
since I
>> wanted brass/copper instead of aluminum. And, yes Mike Drew, I
have to
>> admit it?s because I want to, not necessarily NEED to. It ain?t
broke,
>> but I am fixing it(?). Didn?t want to admit that, but...Lol.
There
>> really is an ulterior motive, but I just don?t want to mention it
right
>> now; but I ran my idea past Brassworks - who says they will
>> ?build-to-suit? - but the Hall unit looks to be
?tried-and-proven?.
>> Now - fans. I really don?t know the brand name of my fans, but
they are
>> suckers - about 12? diameter - and the blades are ?curved? -
>> sickle-shaped. The names that been bouncing around are Mariah,
SPAL,
>> and Flex-a-lite. I had read someone?s post about the
Flex-a-lite?s
>> since they said they can be - or are - mounted in a shroud that
is a
>> perfect match for the Pantera radiator size. I think. And someone
>> offered-up a part number, but I deleted (or lost) it. All normal
for
>> me.
>> So - I am ready for opinions/suggestions:
>> jack
>> #4348
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>> Message: 7
>> Date: Fri, 16 Sep 2016 11:24:26 -0700
>> From: Larry Stock
>>
<[249]larrys at panteraparts.com<[250]mailto:larrys at panteraparts.com>>
>> To: Jack Donahue
<[251]demongusta at gmail.com<[252]mailto:demongusta at gmail.com>>
>> Cc:
>>
"[253]detomaso at server.detomasolist.com<[254]mailto:detomaso at server.deto
masolist.c
>> om>"
>>
>>
<[255]detomaso at server.detomasolist.com<[256]mailto:detomaso at server.deto
masolist.c
>> om>>
>> Subject: Re: [DeTomaso] Fans and shroud
>> Message-ID:
>>
<D4018324.17A0EF%[257]larrys at panteraparts.com<mailto:D4018324.17A0EF%la
rrys@
>> [258]panteraparts.com>>
>> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="ISO-8859-1"
>> Hi Jack,
>> You should be able to use the fans off the Fluidyne, if not we
have our
>> Maridyne system fans and our own bracket kit and if you need
shrouds
>> for a
>> full lie-down system, we have those too. Typically we recommend
our
>> half
>> Lay forward system which minimizes the thru air turbulence.
>> 11041B Defl. Rad. S.S. Lay down for kit $95.00
>> 11042B Stainless deflector right $65.00
>> 11043B Stainless deflector left $65.00
>> 11055B Radiator Puller Fan Shroud SS Mounting brackets set of 3
$125.00
>> 11055P PPC Puller Fans & Shroud Assy $325.00
>> If the Hall Brass radiator has the stock quick 90 degree hard
radiator
>> tubes installed, you will not be able to mount a puller fan
shroud
>> under
>> those tubes, if it has the straight out tubes then you can use 90
>> degree
>> molded rubber hoses to clear the Puller shroud like your
Fluidyne.
>> Larry Stock
>> Pantera Parts Connection LC
>> 550 Mallory Way
>> Carson City NV 89701
>> [44][259]www.PanteraParts.com<[260]http://www.PanteraParts.com>
>> PH 775-283-4411
>> Fax 775-283-4410
>> Cell 1-800-DeTomaso 800-338-6627
>> On 9/16/16, 9:29 AM, "DeTomaso on behalf of Jack Donahue"
>>
<[261]detomaso-bounces at server.detomasolist.com<mailto:detomaso-bounces@
serve
>> [262]r.detomasolist.com> on behalf of
>> [263]demongusta at gmail.com<[264]mailto:demongusta at gmail.com>>
wrote:
>> Hey all - A few weeks ago I was talking asking The List about
>> radiators
>> - all said-and-done, I decided on the Hall radiator, since I
wanted
>> brass/copper instead of aluminum. And, yes Mike Drew, I have to
admit
>> it?s because I want to, not necessarily NEED to. It ain?t broke,
but I
>> am
>> fixing it(?). Didn?t want to admit that, but...Lol. There really
is an
>> ulterior motive, but I just don?t want to mention it right now;
but I
>> ran
>> my idea past Brassworks - who says they will ?build-to-suit? -
but
>> the
>> Hall unit looks to be ?tried-and-proven?.
>> Now - fans. I really don?t know the brand name of my fans, but
they are
>> suckers - about 12? diameter - and the blades are ?curved? -
>> sickle-shaped. The names that been bouncing around are Mariah,
SPAL,
>> and
>> Flex-a-lite. I had read someone?s post about the Flex-a-lite?s
since
>> they
>> said they can be - or are - mounted in a shroud that is a perfect
match
>> for the Pantera radiator size. I think. And someone offered-up a
part
>> number, but I deleted (or lost) it. All normal for me.
>> So - I am ready for opinions/suggestions:
>> jack
>> #4348
>> _______________________________________________
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>> ------------------------------
>> Message: 8
>> Date: Fri, 16 Sep 2016 14:09:55 -0500
>> From: Cullen McCann
>> <[268]cmccann1972 at gmail.com<[269]mailto:cmccann1972 at gmail.com>>
>> To:
>>
[270]detomaso at server.detomasolist.com<[271]mailto:detomaso at server.detom
asolist.co
>> m>
>> Subject: [DeTomaso] McLeod hydraulic throw out
>> Message-ID:
>>
>>
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m<mai
>>
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>> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8"
>> Good afternoon!
>> Has anyone installed the McLeod hydraulic throwout bearing that
they
>> say is
>> Pantera specific for the ZF, and what was your experience? I've
had a
>> fantastic experience with them on another performance car
application.
>> [46][274]https://www.summitracing.com/parts/mcl-1402-22
>> Thank you!!
>> -------------- next part --------------
>> Good afternoon!
>> Has anyone installed the McLeod hydraulic throwout bearing
that
>> they
>> say is Pantera specific for the ZF, and what was your
experience?
>> I've
>> had a fantastic experience with them on another performance
car
>> application.
>> [1][275]https://www.summitracing.com/parts/mcl-1402-22
>> Thank you!!
>> References
>> 1. [47][276]https://www.summitracing.com/parts/mcl-1402-22
>> ------------------------------
>> Message: 9
>> Date: Fri, 16 Sep 2016 19:27:46 +0000 (UTC)
>> From: Ken Green
<[277]kenn_green at yahoo.com<[278]mailto:kenn_green at yahoo.com>>
>> To: Jack Donahue
<[279]demongusta at gmail.com<[280]mailto:demongusta at gmail.com>>,
>>
>>
"[281]detomaso at server.detomasolist.com<[282]mailto:detomaso at server.deto
masolist.c
>> om>"
>>
<[283]detomaso at server.detomasolist.com<[284]mailto:detomaso at server.deto
masolist.c
>> om>>
>> Subject: Re: [DeTomaso] Fans and shroud
>> Message-ID:
>>
<[285]1796334072.2409059.1474054066544 at mail.yahoo.com<mailto:1796334072
.2409
>> [286]059.1474054066544 at mail.yahoo.com>>
>> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8"
>> Jack,
>> ??? You should be able to find the fan and shroud here:
>>
[48][287]https://www.flex-a-lite.com/electric-fans/12-volt-electric-fan
s/uni
>> versal/primary-fans.html
>> From: Jack Donahue
>> <[288]demongusta at gmail.com<[289]mailto:demongusta at gmail.com>>
>> To:
>>
"[290]detomaso at server.detomasolist.com<[291]mailto:detomaso at server.deto
masolist.c
>> om>"
>>
<[292]detomaso at server.detomasolist.com<[293]mailto:detomaso at server.deto
masolist.c
>> om>>
>> Cc:
>>
"[294]detomaso at server.detomasolist.com<[295]mailto:detomaso at server.deto
masolist.c
>> om>"
>>
<[296]detomaso at server.detomasolist.com<[297]mailto:detomaso at server.deto
masolist.c
>> om>>
>> Sent: Friday, September 16, 2016 9:29 AM
>> Subject: [DeTomaso] Fans and shroud
>> Hey all - A few weeks ago I was talking asking The List about?
>> radiators - all said-and-done, I decided on the Hall radiator,
since I
>> wanted brass/copper instead of aluminum.? And, yes Mike Drew, I
have to
>> admit it?s because I want to, not necessarily NEED to. It ain?t
broke,
>> but I am fixing it(?). Didn?t want to admit that, but...Lol.
There
>> really is an ulterior motive, but I just don?t want to mention it
right
>> now; but I ran my idea past? Brassworks? - who says they will
>> ?build-to-suit? - but the Hall unit looks to be
?tried-and-proven?.
>> Now - fans. I really don?t know the brand name of my fans, but
they are
>> suckers - about 12? diameter - and the blades are ?curved?? -
>> sickle-shaped. The names that been bouncing around are Mariah,
SPAL,
>> and Flex-a-lite. I had read someone?s post about the
Flex-a-lite?s
>> since they said they can be - or are - mounted in a shroud that
is a
>> perfect match for the Pantera radiator size. I think. And someone
>> offered-up? a part number, but I deleted (or lost) it. All normal
for
>> me.
>> So - I am ready for opinions/suggestions:
>> jack
>> #4348
>> _______________________________________________
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>> -------------- next part --------------
>> Jack,
>> You should be able to find the fan and shroud here:
>>
>>
[1][301]https://www.flex-a-lite.com/electric-fans/12-volt-electric-fans
/univ
>> ersal/primary-fans.html
>>
>>
__________________________________________________________________
>> From: Jack Donahue
>> <[302]demongusta at gmail.com<[303]mailto:demongusta at gmail.com>>
>> To:
>>
"[304]detomaso at server.detomasolist.com<[305]mailto:detomaso at server.deto
masolist.c
>> om>"
>>
>>
<[306]detomaso at server.detomasolist.com<[307]mailto:detomaso at server.deto
masolist.c
>> om>>
>> Cc:
>>
"[308]detomaso at server.detomasolist.com<[309]mailto:detomaso at server.deto
masolist.c
>> om>"
>>
>>
<[310]detomaso at server.detomasolist.com<[311]mailto:detomaso at server.deto
masolist.c
>> om>>
>> Sent: Friday, September 16, 2016 9:29 AM
>> Subject: [DeTomaso] Fans and shroud
>> Hey all - A few weeks ago I was talking asking The List
about
>> radiators - all said-and-done, I decided on the Hall
radiator,
>> since I
>> wanted brass/copper instead of aluminum. And, yes Mike
Drew, I
>> have to
>> admit itas because I want to, not necessarily NEED to. It
ainat
>> broke,
>> but I am fixing it(?). Didnat want to admit that, but...Lol.
There
>> really is an ulterior motive, but I just donat want to
mention it
>> right
>> now; but I ran my idea past Brassworks - who says they
will
>> abuild-to-suita - but the Hall unit looks to be
>> atried-and-provena.
>> Now - fans. I really donat know the brand name of my fans,
but
>> they are
>> suckers - about 12a diameter - and the blades are acurveda
-
>> sickle-shaped. The names that been bouncing around are
Mariah,
>> SPAL,
>> and Flex-a-lite. I had read someoneas post about the
Flex-a-liteas
>> since they said they can be - or are - mounted in a shroud
that is
>> a
>> perfect match for the Pantera radiator size. I think. And
someone
>> offered-up a part number, but I deleted (or lost) it. All
normal
>> for
>> me.
>> So - I am ready for opinions/suggestions:
>> jack
>> #4348
>> _______________________________________________
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>> References
>> 1.
>>
[50][315]https://www.flex-a-lite.com/electric-fans/12-volt-electric-fan
s/uni
>> versal/primary-fans.html
>> 2. [51][316]mailto:DeTomaso at server.detomasolist.com
>> 3.
[52][317]http://server.detomasolist.com/mailman/listinfo/detomaso
>> ------------------------------
>> Message: 10
>> Date: Fri, 16 Sep 2016 12:35:17 -0700
>> From: Larry Finch
<[318]fresnofinches at aol.com<[319]mailto:fresnofinches at aol.com>>
>> To: Email List Address For Posting
>>
<[320]detomaso at server.detomasolist.com<[321]mailto:detomaso at server.deto
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>> om>>
>> Subject: [DeTomaso] McLeod hydraulic throw out
>> Message-ID:
>>
<[322]6C366701-6502-47C0-A0DC-59494515D156 at aol.com<mailto:6C366701-6502
-47C0
>> -[323]A0DC-59494515D156 at aol.com>>
>> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8
>> Cullen,
>> 2511 came equipped with one of those from Dennis when I purchased
it in
>> 2002. Since then I have rebuilt the unit twice (three?) and most
>> recently did so using what I believe to be their current
offering. I
>> spoke with and ordered directly from McLeod.
>> My opinion, in brief, is a very simple "NO!!"
>> The current offering was shipped to me with an incorrect input
snout
>> spacer (I solved that by using the old spacer which luckily I
still had
>> on hand), and the stainless steel input line, due to its 90?
fitting
>> where one should have used a 45? fitting, twisted itself, unseen
of
>> course, within the bell housing when it was connected to the hard
line
>> attached to the chassis rails. Even stainless steel lines don't
hold up
>> very long against grinding by a pressure plate.
>> The stainless steel bleed line is about 4 inches too long,
sticking
>> outside the bell housing in a terrible display of ugly.
>> Finally, my last experience started with me ordering the same
rebuild
>> kit I had previously used, using the same number off of the
previous
>> invoice. What I received from them was the rebuild kit for the
current
>> unit which uses an entirely different set of all rings. I
ultimately
>> determined that for all three generations of their hydraulic
bearing
>> McLeod has used exactly the same rebuild kit part number. They
added no
>> suffix such as a ? A or a ?B which to me seems indicative of a
problem
>> within the company. No, they no longer support a rebuild kit for
the
>> first two generations.
>> While you have some experience in using one of these previously,
the
>> task of establishing proper free play and clearances is quite
exacting
>> and unforgiving. If you get it wrong there is nothing left to do
but
>> pull the transaxle and start all over again.
>> The unit I have is now adjusted for the factory shortcomings and
as has
>> been my experience for over 50,000 miles, the system works just
fine.
>> Dennis however no longer recommends their installation and based
on my
>> experience I would not encourage any other owners to venture down
that
>> road for themselves.
>> Feel free to reach out to me off-line or by phone for more of the
gory
>> details.
>> Larry
>> Sent from me using a magic, handheld electronic gizmo.
>> ------------------------------
>> Message: 11
>> Date: Fri, 16 Sep 2016 12:50:41 -0700
>> From: MyCars
<[324]mycars at comcast.net<[325]mailto:mycars at comcast.net>>
>> To: LSJ
<[326]lashdeep at yahoo.com<[327]mailto:lashdeep at yahoo.com>>,
>>
"[328]detomaso at server.detomasolist.com<[329]mailto:detomaso at server.deto
masolist.c
>> om>"
>>
>>
<[330]detomaso at server.detomasolist.com<[331]mailto:detomaso at server.deto
masolist.c
>> om>>
>> Subject: Re: [DeTomaso] Tires for Grp IV Flared Car
>> Message-ID:
>>
<[332]37e8f14d-dde9-3ce5-f312-4dd9b1c3f234 at comcast.net<mailto:37e8f14d-
dde9-
>> [333]3ce5-f312-4dd9b1c3f234 at comcast.net>>
>> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8"; Format="flowed"
>> Going off memory (my car is still in Seattle) I am in San Diego
area.
>> They are 15" Aluminum Weld 5-spoke rims, that I believe are about
9.5"
>> wide.
>> On 9/16/2016 10:08 AM, LSJ wrote:
>> What size wheel up front?
>> LSJ
>> /*central */
>> /*wines-spirits est 1934
>> */
>> /*
>> */
>> /*625 e street nw
>> */
>> /*washington, dc 20004*/
>> /*
>> */
>> /*[334]centralwines.com <[53][335]http://centralwines.com/>
>> */
>> /*
>> */
>> /*[336]facebook.com/CentralLiquors
<[54][337]http://facebook.com/CentralLiquors>
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>> /*
>> */
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>>
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>> -
>> *From:* MyCars
<[338]mycars at comcast.net<[339]mailto:mycars at comcast.net>>
>> *To:*
>>
[340]detomaso at server.detomasolist.com<[341]mailto:detomaso at server.detom
asolist.co
>> m>
>> *Sent:* Friday, September 16, 2016 1:03 PM
>> *Subject:* [DeTomaso] Tires for Grp IV Flared Car
>> I just bought 345-35 R15 Pirelli Asimmetrico (24.8" tall) tires
for the
>> rear and wondering what would be a good match for the front.
>> I found 225-50 R15 Pirelli P Zero Trofeo R (23.9" tall). This
would
>> give
>> the car a bit of rake, but what would the handling be like?
>> Thanks in advance for your thoughts
>> Roy
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>> Going off memory (my car is still in Seattle) I am in San
Diego
>> area.
>> They are 15" Aluminum Weld 5-spoke rims, that I believe are
about
>> 9.5"
>> wide.
>> On 9/16/2016 10:08 AM, LSJ wrote:
>> What size wheel up front?
>> LSJ
>> central
>> wines-spirits est 1934
>> 625 e street nw
>> washington, dc 20004
>> [1][346]centralwines.com
>> [2][347]facebook.com/CentralLiquors
>> 202-737-2800
>>
>>
__________________________________________________________________
>> From: MyCars
[3]<[348]mycars at comcast.net<[349]mailto:mycars at comcast.net>>
>> To:
>>
[4][350]detomaso at server.detomasolist.com<[351]mailto:detomaso at server.de
tomasolist
>> .com>
>> Sent: Friday, September 16, 2016 1:03 PM
>> Subject: [DeTomaso] Tires for Grp IV Flared Car
>> I just bought 345-35 R15 Pirelli Asimmetrico (24.8" tall)
tires
>> for the
>> rear and wondering what would be a good match for the front.
>> I found 225-50 R15 Pirelli P Zero Trofeo R (23.9" tall).
This
>> would
>> give
>> the car a bit of rake, but what would the handling be like?
>> Thanks in advance for your thoughts
>> Roy
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>> 3. [59][357]mailto:mycars at comcast.net
>> 4. [60][358]mailto:detomaso at server.detomasolist.com
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>> ------------------------------
>> Message: 12
>> Date: Fri, 16 Sep 2016 13:00:36 -0700
>> From: MyCars
<[361]mycars at comcast.net<[362]mailto:mycars at comcast.net>>
>> To:
>>
[363]detomaso at server.detomasolist.com<[364]mailto:detomaso at server.detom
asolist.co
>> m>
>> Subject: Re: [DeTomaso] Tires for Grp IV Flared Car
>> Message-ID:
>>
<[365]013ad905-7f93-99e8-761f-878f602ee6cb at comcast.net<mailto:013ad905-
7f93-
>> [366]99e8-761f-878f602ee6cb at comcast.net>>
>> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="windows-1252"; Format="flowed"
>> I just checked Weld's website
>>
[63][367]http://weldwheels.com/shop/street-strip/sport-forged-wheels/pr
ostar
>> .html
>> They do not offer a 15" rim 9.5" wide, so I would guess they are
9"
>> wide
>> On 9/16/2016 12:50 PM, MyCars wrote:
>> Going off memory (my car is still in Seattle) I am in San
Diego
>> area.
>> They are 15" Aluminum Weld 5-spoke rims, that I believe are
about
>> 9.5"
>> wide.
>> On 9/16/2016 10:08 AM, LSJ wrote:
>> What size wheel up front?
>> LSJ
>> central
>> wines-spirits est 1934
>> 625 e street nw
>> washington, dc 20004
>> [1][368]centralwines.com
>> [2][369]facebook.com/CentralLiquors
>> 202-737-2800
>>
>>
__________________________________________________________________
>> From: MyCars
[3]<[370]mycars at comcast.net<[371]mailto:mycars at comcast.net>>
>> To:
>>
[4][372]detomaso at server.detomasolist.com<[373]mailto:detomaso at server.de
tomasolist
>> .com>
>> Sent: Friday, September 16, 2016 1:03 PM
>> Subject: [DeTomaso] Tires for Grp IV Flared Car
>> I just bought 345-35 R15 Pirelli Asimmetrico (24.8" tall)
tires
>> for the
>> rear and wondering what would be a good match for the
front.
>> I found 225-50 R15 Pirelli P Zero Trofeo R (23.9" tall).
This
>> would
>> give
>> the car a bit of rake, but what would the handling be like?
>> Thanks in advance for your thoughts
>> Roy
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>> 4. [67][380]mailto:detomaso at server.detomasolist.com
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>> I just checked Weld's website
>>
>>
[1][386]http://weldwheels.com/shop/street-strip/sport-forged-wheels/pro
star.
>> html
>> They do not offer a 15" rim 9.5" wide, so I would guess they
are
>> 9"
>> wide
>> On 9/16/2016 12:50 PM, MyCars wrote:
>> Going off memory (my car is still in Seattle) I am in San
Diego
>> area.
>> They are 15" Aluminum Weld 5-spoke rims, that I believe are
about
>> 9.5"
>> wide.
>> On 9/16/2016 10:08 AM, LSJ wrote:
>> What size wheel up front?
>> LSJ
>> central
>> wines-spirits est 1934
>> 625 e street nw
>> washington, dc 20004
>> [1][387]centralwines.com
>> [2][388]facebook.com/CentralLiquors
>> 202-737-2800
>>
>>
__________________________________________________________________
>> From: MyCars
[3][2]<[389]mycars at comcast.net<[390]mailto:mycars at comcast.net>>
>> To:
>>
[[3]4][391]detomaso at server.detomasolist.com<[392]mailto:detomaso at server
.detomasol
>> [393]ist.com>
>> Sent: Friday, September 16, 2016 1:03 PM
>> Subject: [DeTomaso] Tires for Grp IV Flared Car
>> I just bought 345-35 R15 Pirelli Asimmetrico (24.8" tall)
tires
>> for the
>> rear and wondering what would be a good match for the front.
>> I found 225-50 R15 Pirelli P Zero Trofeo R (23.9" tall).
This
>> would
>> give
>> the car a bit of rake, but what would the handling be like?
>> Thanks in advance for your thoughts
>> Roy
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>> Message: 13
>> Date: Fri, 16 Sep 2016 16:26:27 -0400
>> From: Will Kooiman
>> <[421]will.kooiman at gmail.com<[422]mailto:will.kooiman at gmail.com>>
>> To: Larry Finch
<[423]fresnofinches at aol.com<[424]mailto:fresnofinches at aol.com>>,
>> Email List Address For
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>> Subject: Re: [DeTomaso] McLeod hydraulic throw out
>> Message-ID:
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>> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="ISO-8859-1"
>> Wow.
>> I have one in my Cobra, and so far it has worked perfectly.
>> My Cobra came with an external slave from a Volvo that was
readily
>> available 20 years ago, but is now unobtanium. Rather than
building a
>> new
>> bracket for a different slave, I switched to a McLeod slave.
>> At any rate, as I said, it has worked perfectly - so far.
>> --
>> Will
>> On 9/16/16 3:35 PM, "Larry Finch via DeTomaso"
>>
<[429]detomaso at server.detomasolist.com<[430]mailto:detomaso at server.deto
masolist.c
>> om>> wrote:
>> Cullen,
>> 2511 came equipped with one of those from Dennis when I purchased
it in
>> 2002. Since then I have rebuilt the unit twice (three?) and most
>> recently
>> did so using what I believe to be their current offering. I spoke
with
>> and ordered directly from McLeod.
>> My opinion, in brief, is a very simple "NO!!"
>> The current offering was shipped to me with an incorrect input
snout
>> spacer (I solved that by using the old spacer which luckily I
still had
>> on hand), and the stainless steel input line, due to its 90?
fitting
>> where one should have used a 45? fitting, twisted itself, unseen
of
>> course, within the bell housing when it was connected to the hard
line
>> attached to the chassis rails. Even stainless steel lines don't
hold up
>> very long against grinding by a pressure plate.
>> The stainless steel bleed line is about 4 inches too long,
sticking
>> outside the bell housing in a terrible display of ugly.
>> Finally, my last experience started with me ordering the same
rebuild
>> kit
>> I had previously used, using the same number off of the previous
>> invoice.
>> What I received from them was the rebuild kit for the current
unit
>> which
>> uses an entirely different set of all rings. I ultimately
determined
>> that
>> for all three generations of their hydraulic bearing McLeod has
used
>> exactly the same rebuild kit part number. They added no suffix
such as
>> a
>> ? A or a ?B which to me seems indicative of a problem within the
>> company.
>> No, they no longer support a rebuild kit for the first two
generations.
>> While you have some experience in using one of these previously,
the
>> task
>> of establishing proper free play and clearances is quite exacting
and
>> unforgiving. If you get it wrong there is nothing left to do but
pull
>> the
>> transaxle and start all over again.
>> The unit I have is now adjusted for the factory shortcomings and
as has
>> been my experience for over 50,000 miles, the system works just
fine.
>> Dennis however no longer recommends their installation and based
on my
>> experience I would not encourage any other owners to venture down
that
>> road for themselves.
>> Feel free to reach out to me off-line or by phone for more of the
gory
>> details.
>> Larry
>> Sent from me using a magic, handheld electronic gizmo.
>> _______________________________________________
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>> Message: 14
>> Date: Fri, 16 Sep 2016 15:50:41 -0500
>> From: Cullen McCann
>> <[434]cmccann1972 at gmail.com<[435]mailto:cmccann1972 at gmail.com>>
>> To: Will Kooiman
>> <[436]will.kooiman at gmail.com<[437]mailto:will.kooiman at gmail.com>>
>> Cc: Email List Address For Posting
>>
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masolist.c
>> om>>,
>> Larry Finch
>> <[440]fresnofinches at aol.com<[441]mailto:fresnofinches at aol.com>>
>> Subject: Re: [DeTomaso] McLeod hydraulic throw out
>> Message-ID:
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>> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8"
>> Thank you Larry. You answered my question perfectly. I am like
Will, I
>> have
>> one on my Cobra as well, with a ford Top Loader and its been
there for
>> several years and Ive always loved it. I actually bought one that
was
>> "new"
>> but several generations old, and when I called McLeod to inquire
about
>> fresh O-rings, they sent me a brand new unit just to "ensure a
positive
>> experience". I installed it with a performance clutch and a
>> scattershield,
>> bled it according to the instructions and that was about 4 years
ago.
>> Havent had a lick of trouble. (knocking on wood now).
>> the frame rails on my cobra are 24" apart and I couldn't fit the
clutch
>> fork between the side of the bellhousing and the frame rail, and
ive
>> had a
>> bad experience with performance clutches and cables breaking in
the
>> past...so I went the hydraulic route and have loved it.
>> however... I will certainly consider carefully this drama as I
set up
>> my P
>> car. I have a plan B with an external slave also, if I choose not
to
>> use
>> the factory unit. Thank you sir.
>> Cullen
>> On Fri, Sep 16, 2016 at 3:26 PM, Will Kooiman
>> <[444]will.kooiman at gmail.com<[445]mailto:will.kooiman at gmail.com>>
>> wrote:
>> Wow.
>> I have one in my Cobra, and so far it has worked perfectly.
>> My Cobra came with an external slave from a Volvo that was
readily
>> available 20 years ago, but is now unobtanium. Rather than
building a
>> new
>> bracket for a different slave, I switched to a McLeod slave.
>> At any rate, as I said, it has worked perfectly - so far.
>> --
>> Will
>> On 9/16/16 3:35 PM, "Larry Finch via DeTomaso"
>>
<[446]detomaso at server.detomasolist.com<[447]mailto:detomaso at server.deto
masolist.c
>> om>> wrote:
>> Cullen,
>> 2511 came equipped with one of those from Dennis when I purchased
it in
>> 2002. Since then I have rebuilt the unit twice (three?) and most
>> recently
>> did so using what I believe to be their current offering. I spoke
with
>> and ordered directly from McLeod.
>> My opinion, in brief, is a very simple "NO!!"
>> The current offering was shipped to me with an incorrect input
snout
>> spacer (I solved that by using the old spacer which luckily I
still had
>> on hand), and the stainless steel input line, due to its 90?
fitting
>> where one should have used a 45? fitting, twisted itself, unseen
of
>> course, within the bell housing when it was connected to the hard
line
>> attached to the chassis rails. Even stainless steel lines don't
hold up
>> very long against grinding by a pressure plate.
>> The stainless steel bleed line is about 4 inches too long,
sticking
>> outside the bell housing in a terrible display of ugly.
>> Finally, my last experience started with me ordering the same
rebuild
>> kit
>> I had previously used, using the same number off of the previous
>> invoice.
>> What I received from them was the rebuild kit for the current
unit
>> which
>> uses an entirely different set of all rings. I ultimately
determined
>> that
>> for all three generations of their hydraulic bearing McLeod has
used
>> exactly the same rebuild kit part number. They added no suffix
such as
>> a
>> ? A or a ?B which to me seems indicative of a problem within the
>> company.
>> No, they no longer support a rebuild kit for the first two
generations.
>> While you have some experience in using one of these previously,
the
>> task
>> of establishing proper free play and clearances is quite exacting
and
>> unforgiving. If you get it wrong there is nothing left to do but
pull
>> the
>> transaxle and start all over again.
>> The unit I have is now adjusted for the factory shortcomings and
as has
>> been my experience for over 50,000 miles, the system works just
fine.
>> Dennis however no longer recommends their installation and based
on my
>> experience I would not encourage any other owners to venture down
that
>> road for themselves.
>> Feel free to reach out to me off-line or by phone for more of the
gory
>> details.
>> Larry
>> Sent from me using a magic, handheld electronic gizmo.
>> _______________________________________________
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>> Thank you Larry. You answered my question perfectly. I am
like
>> Will, I
>> have one on my Cobra as well, with a ford Top Loader and its
been
>> there
>> for several years and Ive always loved it. I actually bought
one
>> that
>> was "new" but several generations old, and when I called
McLeod to
>> inquire about fresh O-rings, they sent me a brand new unit
just to
>> "ensure a positive experience". I installed it with a
performance
>> clutch and a scattershield, bled it according to the
instructions
>> and
>> that was about 4 years ago. Havent had a lick of trouble.A
>> (knocking
>> on wood now).
>> the frame rails on my cobra are 24" apart and I couldn't fit
the
>> clutch
>> fork between the side of the bellhousing and the frame rail,
and
>> ive
>> had a bad experience with performance clutches and cables
breaking
>> in
>> the past...so I went the hydraulic route and have loved it.
>> however... I will certainly consider carefully this drama as
I set
>> up
>> my P car. I have a plan B with an external slave also, if I
choose
>> not
>> to use the factory unit.A Thank you sir.
>> Cullen
>> On Fri, Sep 16, 2016 at 3:26 PM, Will Kooiman
>>
<[1][454]will.kooiman at gmail.com<[455]mailto:will.kooiman at gmail.com>>
wrote:
>> Wow.
>> I have one in my Cobra, and so far it has worked
perfectly.
>> My Cobra came with an external slave from a Volvo that was
>> readily
>> available 20 years ago, but is now unobtanium.A Rather
than
>> building a new
>> bracket for a different slave, I switched to a McLeod
slave.
>> At any rate, as I said, it has worked perfectly - so far.
>> --
>> Will
>> On 9/16/16 3:35 PM, "Larry Finch via DeTomaso"
>>
>>
<[2][456]detomaso at server.detomasolist.com<[457]mailto:detomaso at server.d
etomasolis
>> [458]t.com>> wrote:
>>> Cullen,
>>>
>>> 2511 came equipped with one of those from Dennis when I purchased
>> it
>> in
>>> 2002. Since then I have rebuilt the unit twice (three?) and most
>> recently
>>> did so using what I believe to be their current offering. I spoke
>> with
>>> and ordered directly from McLeod.
>>>
>>> My opinion, in brief, is a very simple "NO!!"
>>>
>>> The current offering was shipped to me with an incorrect input
>> snout
>>> spacer (I solved that by using the old spacer which luckily I
>> still
>> had
>>> on hand), and the stainless steel input line, due to its 90ADEG
>> fitting
>>> where one should have used a 45ADEG fitting, twisted itself,
>> unseen of
>>> course, within the bell housing when it was connected to the hard
>> line
>>> attached to the chassis rails. Even stainless steel lines don't
>> hold
>> up
>>> very long against grinding by a pressure plate.
>>>
>>> The stainless steel bleed line is about 4 inches too long,
>> sticking
>>> outside the bell housing in a terrible display of ugly.
>>>
>>> Finally, my last experience started with me ordering the same
>> rebuild
>> kit
>>> I had previously used, using the same number off of the previous
>> invoice.
>>> What I received from them was the rebuild kit for the current
>> unit
>> which
>>> uses an entirely different set of all rings. I ultimately
>> determined
>> that
>>> for all three generations of their hydraulic bearing McLeod has
>> used
>>> exactly the same rebuild kit part number. They added no suffix
>> such as
>> a
>>> A A or a AB which to me seems indicative of a problem within the
>> company.
>>> No, they no longer support a rebuild kit for the first two
>> generations.
>>>
>>> While you have some experience in using one of these previously,
>> the
>> task
>>> of establishing proper free play and clearances is quite exacting
>> and
>>> unforgiving. If you get it wrong there is nothing left to do but
>> pull
>> the
>>> transaxle and start all over again.
>>>
>>> The unit I have is now adjusted for the factory shortcomings and
>> as
>> has
>>> been my experience for over 50,000 miles, the system works just
>> fine.
>>> Dennis however no longer recommends their installation and based
>> on my
>>> experience I would not encourage any other owners to venture down
>> that
>>> road for themselves.
>>>
>>> Feel free to reach out to me off-line or by phone for more of the
>> gory
>>> details.
>>>
>>> Larry
>>>
>>> Sent from me using a magic, handheld electronic gizmo.
>>> _______________________________________________
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>> ------------------------------
>> Message: 15
>> Date: Fri, 16 Sep 2016 13:53:15 -0700
>> From: Larry Stock
>>
<[472]larrys at panteraparts.com<[473]mailto:larrys at panteraparts.com>>
>> To: Will Kooiman
>>
<[474]will.kooiman at gmail.com<[475]mailto:will.kooiman at gmail.com>>,
Larry Finch
>>
<[476]fresnofinches at aol.com<[477]mailto:fresnofinches at aol.com>>, Email
>> List Address For Posting
>>
>>
<[478]detomaso at server.detomasolist.com<[479]mailto:detomaso at server.deto
masolist.c
>> om>>
>> Subject: Re: [DeTomaso] McLeod hydraulic throw out
>> Message-ID:
>>
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>> [481]panteraparts.com>>
>> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="EUC-KR"
>> The basic problem is that the bell housing is too confined and
not
>> ventilated well enough to dissipate the heat. The Superformance
is
>> using a
>> Quick Time bell housing that has much more ventilation than the
>> DeTomaso
>> Bell housing. Just another reason not to run those Plugs that
some
>> vendors
>> offer, that close off the inspection hole at the left hand top of
the
>> bell
>> housing. That is the only heat dissipation vent there is.
>> Larry
>> On 9/16/16, 1:26 PM, "DeTomaso on behalf of Will Kooiman"
>>
<[482]detomaso-bounces at server.detomasolist.com<mailto:detomaso-bounces@
serve
>> [483]r.detomasolist.com> on behalf of
>> [484]will.kooiman at gmail.com<[485]mailto:will.kooiman at gmail.com>>
wrote:
>> Wow.
>> I have one in my Cobra, and so far it has worked perfectly.
>> My Cobra came with an external slave from a Volvo that was
readily
>> available 20 years ago, but is now unobtanium. Rather than
building a
>> new
>> bracket for a different slave, I switched to a McLeod slave.
>> At any rate, as I said, it has worked perfectly - so far.
>> --
>> Will
>> On 9/16/16 3:35 PM, "Larry Finch via DeTomaso"
>>
<[486]detomaso at server.detomasolist.com<[487]mailto:detomaso at server.deto
masolist.c
>> om>> wrote:
>> Cullen,
>> 2511 came equipped with one of those from Dennis when I purchased
it in
>> 2002. Since then I have rebuilt the unit twice (three?) and most
>> recently
>> did so using what I believe to be their current offering. I spoke
with
>> and ordered directly from McLeod.
>> My opinion, in brief, is a very simple "NO!!"
>> The current offering was shipped to me with an incorrect input
snout
>> spacer (I solved that by using the old spacer which luckily I
still had
>> on hand), and the stainless steel input line, due to its 90?
fitting
>> where one should have used a 45? fitting, twisted itself, unseen
of
>> course, within the bell housing when it was connected to the hard
line
>> attached to the chassis rails. Even stainless steel lines don't
hold up
>> very long against grinding by a pressure plate.
>> The stainless steel bleed line is about 4 inches too long,
sticking
>> outside the bell housing in a terrible display of ugly.
>> Finally, my last experience started with me ordering the same
rebuild
>> kit
>> I had previously used, using the same number off of the previous
>> invoice.
>> What I received from them was the rebuild kit for the current
unit
>> which
>> uses an entirely different set of all rings. I ultimately
determined
>> that
>> for all three generations of their hydraulic bearing McLeod has
used
>> exactly the same rebuild kit part number. They added no suffix
such as
>> a
>> ? A or a ?B which to me seems indicative of a problem within the
>> company.
>> No, they no longer support a rebuild kit for the first two
generations.
>> While you have some experience in using one of these previously,
the
>> task
>> of establishing proper free play and clearances is quite exacting
and
>> unforgiving. If you get it wrong there is nothing left to do but
pull
>> the
>> transaxle and start all over again.
>> The unit I have is now adjusted for the factory shortcomings and
as has
>> been my experience for over 50,000 miles, the system works just
fine.
>> Dennis however no longer recommends their installation and based
on my
>> experience I would not encourage any other owners to venture down
that
>> road for themselves.
>> Feel free to reach out to me off-line or by phone for more of the
gory
>> details.
>> Larry
>> Sent from me using a magic, handheld electronic gizmo.
>> _______________________________________________
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>> Message: 16
>> Date: Fri, 16 Sep 2016 14:11:22 -0700
>> From: Mike Drew
<[494]MikeLDrew at aol.com<[495]mailto:MikeLDrew at aol.com>>
>> To: David Nunn
<[496]dnunn at telus.net<[497]mailto:dnunn at telus.net>>
>> Cc:
>>
"<[498]detomaso at server.detomasolist.com<[499]mailto:detomaso at server.det
omasolist.
>> com>>"
>>
>>
<[500]detomaso at server.detomasolist.com<[501]mailto:detomaso at server.deto
masolist.c
>> om>>
>> Subject: Re: [DeTomaso] Sanden Compressors noises
>> Message-ID:
>>
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-4825
>> -[503]A845-85208C7B8B62 at aol.com>>
>> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"
>> All,
>> Here is a photo of the IPSCO water pump idler pulley setup. Note
there
>> is no alternator in view, as this car is fitted with a flat
firewall
>> kit that moves the alternator outboard of the A/C system.
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>> Mike
>> Sent from my iPhone
>> On Sep 15, 2016, at 15:41, "David Nunn"
>> <[505]dnunn at telus.net<[506]mailto:dnunn at telus.net>> wrote:
>> Rob,
>> If I'm not mistaken, IPSCO sells a kit that modifies Kirk's
kit. It
>> eliminates the "fitted", non-adjustable belt and makes it
>> adjustable.
>> It sure makes installation a lot easier. It's not listed on
IPSCO's
>> web
>> site so you have to call or e-mail to get details.
>> Also, IPSCO has an idler pulley kit that makes installation
and
>> belt
>> tensioning a breeze.
>>
[1][507]http://www.ipsco.org/Pantera%20Parts/Idler%20Pulley.htm
>> References
>> 1.
[96][508]http://www.ipsco.org/Pantera%20Parts/Idler%20Pulley.htm
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>> Message: 17
>> Date: Fri, 16 Sep 2016 21:16:34 +0000
>> From: Julian Kift
>>
<[512]julian_kift at hotmail.com<[513]mailto:julian_kift at hotmail.com>>
>> To: David Nunn
<[514]dnunn at telus.net<[515]mailto:dnunn at telus.net>>, Mike Drew
>> <[516]MikeLDrew at aol.com<[517]mailto:MikeLDrew at aol.com>>,
>>
>>
"[518]detomaso at server.detomasolist.com<[519]mailto:detomaso at server.deto
masolist.c
>> om>"
>>
<[520]detomaso at server.detomasolist.com<[521]mailto:detomaso at server.deto
masolist.c
>> om>>
>> Subject: Re: [DeTomaso] Sanden Compressors noises
>> Message-ID:
>>
>>
<[522]CY4PR18MB12865ADBFE3EEDECFFB644A895F30 at CY4PR18MB1286.namprd18.pro
d.out
>>
[523]look.com<[524]mailto:CY4PR18MB12865ADBFE3EEDECFFB644A895F30 at CY4PR1
8MB1286.na
>> [525]mprd18.prod.outlook.com>>
>> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1"
>> Mike,
>> It gets even better, that looks to be a different idler again,
the one
>> that was previously linked appears to go in the stock location,
but was
>> adjustable from the front negating the usual need to get a wrench
on
>> the rear.
>> Julian
>> ________________________________
>> From: DeTomaso
>>
<[526]detomaso-bounces at server.detomasolist.com<mailto:detomaso-bounces@
serve
>> [527]r.detomasolist.com>> on behalf of Mike Drew via DeTomaso
>>
<[528]detomaso at server.detomasolist.com<[529]mailto:detomaso at server.deto
masolist.c
>> om>>
>> Sent: Friday, September 16, 2016 2:11 PM
>> To: David Nunn
>> Cc:
>>
<[530]detomaso at server.detomasolist.com<[531]mailto:detomaso at server.deto
masolist.c
>> om>>
>> Subject: Re: [DeTomaso] Sanden Compressors noises
>> All,
>> Here is a photo of the IPSCO water pump idler pulley setup. Note
there
>> is no alternator in view, as this car is fitted with a flat
firewall
>> kit that moves the alternator outboard of the A/C system.
>>
[cid:da0fdac9-[532]8741-4e03-b676-ebaa4760fb6f at namprd18.prod.outlook.co
m<mai
>>
lto:da0fdac9-[533]8741-4e03-b676-ebaa4760fb6f at namprd18.prod.outlook.com
>]
>> Mike
>> Sent from my iPhone
>> On Sep 15, 2016, at 15:41, "David Nunn"
>> <[534]dnunn at telus.net<[535]mailto:dnunn at telus.net>> wrote:
>> Rob,
>> If I'm not mistaken, IPSCO sells a kit that modifies Kirk's
kit. It
>> eliminates the "fitted", non-adjustable belt and makes it
>> adjustable.
>> It sure makes installation a lot easier. It's not listed on
IPSCO's
>> web
>> site so you have to call or e-mail to get details.
>> Also, IPSCO has an idler pulley kit that makes installation
and
>> belt
>> tensioning a breeze.
>>
[1][536]http://www.ipsco.org/Pantera%20Parts/Idler%20Pulley.htm
>> References
>> 1.
[98][537]http://www.ipsco.org/Pantera%20Parts/Idler%20Pulley.htm
>>
[[99][538]http://www.ipsco.org/Pantera%20Parts/Idler%20Pulley.jpg]<[539
]http://ww
>> [540]w.ipsco.org/Pantera%20Parts/Idler%20Pulley.htm>
>> Idler Pulley - IPSCO, Pantera, Viper, Mechanical Parking
>>
...<[100][541]http://www.ipsco.org/Pantera%20Parts/Idler%20Pulley.htm>
>> [542]www.ipsco.org<[101][543]http://www.ipsco.org>
>> Pantera Idler Pulley Assembly . Replacement for factory Idler
Pulley,
>> this assembly allow adjustment without trying to hold a wrench
behind
>> the bracket to tighten in ...
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>> Mike,
>> It gets even better, that looks to be a different idler
again, the
>> one
>> that was previously linked appears to go in the stock
location,
>> but was
>> adjustable from the front negating the usual need to get a
wrench
>> on
>> the rear.
>> Julian
>>
>>
__________________________________________________________________
>> From: DeTomaso
>>
<[550]detomaso-bounces at server.detomasolist.com<mailto:detomaso-bounces@
serve
>> [551]r.detomasolist.com>> on behalf of
>> Mike Drew via DeTomaso
>>
<[552]detomaso at server.detomasolist.com<[553]mailto:detomaso at server.deto
masolist.c
>> om>>
>> Sent: Friday, September 16, 2016 2:11 PM
>> To: David Nunn
>> Cc:
>>
<[554]detomaso at server.detomasolist.com<[555]mailto:detomaso at server.deto
masolist.c
>> om>>
>> Subject: Re: [DeTomaso] Sanden Compressors noises
>> All,
>> Here is a photo of the IPSCO water pump idler pulley setup.
Note
>> there
>> is no alternator in view, as this car is fitted with a flat
>> firewall
>> kit that moves the alternator outboard of the A/C system.
>>
>>
[cid:da0fdac9-[556]8741-4e03-b676-ebaa4760fb6f at namprd18.prod.outlook.co
m<mai
>>
lto:da0fdac9-[557]8741-4e03-b676-ebaa4760fb6f at namprd18.prod.outlook.com
>]
>> Mike
>> Sent from my iPhone
>> On Sep 15, 2016, at 15:41, "David Nunn"
>> <[558]dnunn at telus.net<[559]mailto:dnunn at telus.net>> wrote:
>>> Rob,
>>>
>>> If I'm not mistaken, IPSCO sells a kit that modifies Kirk's
>> kit. It
>>> eliminates the "fitted", non-adjustable belt and makes it
>> adjustable.
>>> It sure makes installation a lot easier. It's not listed on
>> IPSCO's
>> web
>>> site so you have to call or e-mail to get details.
>>>
>>> Also, IPSCO has an idler pulley kit that makes installation
>> and
>> belt
>>> tensioning a breeze.
>>>
>>> [1][560]http://www.ipsco.org/Pantera%20Parts/Idler%20Pulley.htm
>>>
>>> References
>>>
>>> 1. [1][561]http://www.ipsco.org/Pantera%20Parts/Idler%20Pulley.htm
>> [2][Idler%20Pulley.jpg]
>> [3]Idler Pulley - IPSCO, Pantera, Viper, Mechanical Parking
...
>> [562]www.ipsco.org<[104][563]http://www.ipsco.org>
>> Pantera Idler Pulley Assembly . Replacement for factory
Idler
>> Pulley,
>> this assembly allow adjustment without trying to hold a
wrench
>> behind
>> the bracket to tighten in ...
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>> References
>> 1.
[105][570]http://www.ipsco.org/Pantera%20Parts/Idler%20Pulley.htm
>> 2.
[106][571]http://www.ipsco.org/Pantera%20Parts/Idler%20Pulley.htm
>> 3.
[107][572]http://www.ipsco.org/Pantera%20Parts/Idler%20Pulley.htm
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>> Message: 18
>> Date: Fri, 16 Sep 2016 14:18:39 -0700
>> From: Mike Drew
<[576]MikeLDrew at aol.com<[577]mailto:MikeLDrew at aol.com>>
>> To: Julian Kift
>>
<[578]julian_kift at hotmail.com<[579]mailto:julian_kift at hotmail.com>>
>> Cc: David Nunn
<[580]dnunn at telus.net<[581]mailto:dnunn at telus.net>>,
>>
"[582]detomaso at server.detomasolist.com<[583]mailto:detomaso at server.deto
masolist.c
>> om>"
>>
>>
<[584]detomaso at server.detomasolist.com<[585]mailto:detomaso at server.deto
masolist.c
>> om>>
>> Subject: Re: [DeTomaso] Sanden Compressors noises
>> Message-ID:
>>
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-45F7
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>> Julian,
>> Yes, he mentioned two different products for different
applications but
>> only had a link for the stock replacement idler. My photo shows
the
>> idler that replaces the alternator to tension the water pump
belt.
>> Mike
>> Sent from my iPhone
>> On Sep 16, 2016, at 14:16, Julian Kift
>>
<[588]julian_kift at hotmail.com<[589]mailto:julian_kift at hotmail.com>>
wrote:
>> Mike,
>> It gets even better, that looks to be a different idler
again, the
>> one
>> that was previously linked appears to go in the stock
location, but
>> was
>> adjustable from the front negating the usual need to get a
wrench
>> on
>> the rear.
>> Julian
>>
>>
__________________________________________________________________
>> From: DeTomaso
>>
<[590]detomaso-bounces at server.detomasolist.com<mailto:detomaso-bounces@
serve
>> [591]r.detomasolist.com>> on behalf of
>> Mike Drew via DeTomaso
>>
<[592]detomaso at server.detomasolist.com<[593]mailto:detomaso at server.deto
masolist.c
>> om>>
>> Sent: Friday, September 16, 2016 2:11 PM
>> To: David Nunn
>> Cc:
>>
<[594]detomaso at server.detomasolist.com<[595]mailto:detomaso at server.deto
masolist.c
>> om>>
>> Subject: Re: [DeTomaso] Sanden Compressors noises
>> All,
>> Here is a photo of the IPSCO water pump idler pulley setup.
Note
>> there
>> is no alternator in view, as this car is fitted with a flat
>> firewall
>> kit that moves the alternator outboard of the A/C system.
>>
>>
[cid:da0fdac9-[596]8741-4e03-b676-ebaa4760fb6f at namprd18.prod.outlook.co
m<mai
>>
lto:da0fdac9-[597]8741-4e03-b676-ebaa4760fb6f at namprd18.prod.outlook.com
>]
>> Mike
>> Sent from my iPhone
>> On Sep 15, 2016, at 15:41, "David Nunn"
>> <[598]dnunn at telus.net<[599]mailto:dnunn at telus.net>> wrote:
>> Rob,
>> If I'm not mistaken, IPSCO sells a kit that modifies Kirk's
kit. It
>> eliminates the "fitted", non-adjustable belt and makes it
>> adjustable.
>> It sure makes installation a lot easier. It's not listed on
IPSCO's
>> web
>> site so you have to call or e-mail to get details.
>> Also, IPSCO has an idler pulley kit that makes installation
and
>> belt
>> tensioning a breeze.
>>
[1][600]http://www.ipsco.org/Pantera%20Parts/Idler%20Pulley.htm
>> References
>> 1.
[1][601]http://www.ipsco.org/Pantera%20Parts/Idler%20Pulley.htm
>> [2][Idler%20Pulley.jpg]
>> [3]Idler Pulley - IPSCO, Pantera, Viper, Mechanical Parking
...
>> [602]www.ipsco.org<[111][603]http://www.ipsco.org>
>> Pantera Idler Pulley Assembly . Replacement for factory Idler
>> Pulley,
>> this assembly allow adjustment without trying to hold a
wrench
>> behind
>> the bracket to tighten in ...
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[112][610]http://www.ipsco.org/Pantera%20Parts/Idler%20Pulley.htm
>> 2.
[113][611]http://www.ipsco.org/Pantera%20Parts/Idler%20Pulley.htm
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>> Message: 19
>> Date: Fri, 16 Sep 2016 14:19:14 -0700
>> From: Larry Finch
<[618]fresnofinches at aol.com<[619]mailto:fresnofinches at aol.com>>
>> To: Email List Address For Posting
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>> Subject: Re: [DeTomaso] McLeod hydraulic throw out
>> Message-ID:
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>> Heat?
>> As I previously wrote, I have over 50,000 miles using one of the
McLeod
>> systems.
>> Those 50,000 miles have all been WITH a black plastic plug in the
hole
>> that some wish to call a ventilation hole rather than an
inspection
>> hole. Your choice, I don't really care.
>> Whatever heat issues may or may not be present, with or without a
plug,
>> have never appeared to be an issue in any way, shape or form in
my many
>> years of experience.
>> I am all ears if Larry or anyone else has history that supports a
>> failure of the McLeod unit from excessive heat.
>> Larry
>> Sent from me using a magic, handheld electronic gizmo.
>> On Sep 16, 2016, at 1:53 PM, Larry Stock
>>
<[624]larrys at panteraparts.com<[625]mailto:larrys at panteraparts.com>>
wrote:
>> The basic problem is that the bell housing is too confined and
not
>> ventilated well enough to dissipate the heat. The Superformance
is
>> using a
>> Quick Time bell housing that has much more ventilation than the
>> DeTomaso
>> Bell housing. Just another reason not to run those Plugs that
some
>> vendors
>> offer, that close off the inspection hole at the left hand top of
the
>> bell
>> housing. That is the only heat dissipation vent there is.
>> Larry
>> On 9/16/16, 1:26 PM, "DeTomaso on behalf of Will Kooiman"
>>
<[626]detomaso-bounces at server.detomasolist.com<mailto:detomaso-bounces@
serve
>> [627]r.detomasolist.com> on behalf of
>> [628]will.kooiman at gmail.com<[629]mailto:will.kooiman at gmail.com>>
wrote:
>> Wow.
>> I have one in my Cobra, and so far it has worked perfectly.
>> My Cobra came with an external slave from a Volvo that was
readily
>> available 20 years ago, but is now unobtanium. Rather than
building a
>> new
>> bracket for a different slave, I switched to a McLeod slave.
>> At any rate, as I said, it has worked perfectly - so far.
>> --
>> Will
>> On 9/16/16 3:35 PM, "Larry Finch via DeTomaso"
>>
<[630]detomaso at server.detomasolist.com<[631]mailto:detomaso at server.deto
masolist.c
>> om>> wrote:
>> Cullen,
>> 2511 came equipped with one of those from Dennis when I purchased
it in
>> 2002. Since then I have rebuilt the unit twice (three?) and most
>> recently
>> did so using what I believe to be their current offering. I spoke
with
>> and ordered directly from McLeod.
>> My opinion, in brief, is a very simple "NO!!"
>> The current offering was shipped to me with an incorrect input
snout
>> spacer (I solved that by using the old spacer which luckily I
still had
>> on hand), and the stainless steel input line, due to its 90?
fitting
>> where one should have used a 45? fitting, twisted itself, unseen
of
>> course, within the bell housing when it was connected to the hard
line
>> attached to the chassis rails. Even stainless steel lines don't
hold up
>> very long against grinding by a pressure plate.
>> The stainless steel bleed line is about 4 inches too long,
sticking
>> outside the bell housing in a terrible display of ugly.
>> Finally, my last experience started with me ordering the same
rebuild
>> kit
>> I had previously used, using the same number off of the previous
>> invoice.
>> What I received from them was the rebuild kit for the current
unit
>> which
>> uses an entirely different set of all rings. I ultimately
determined
>> that
>> for all three generations of their hydraulic bearing McLeod has
used
>> exactly the same rebuild kit part number. They added no suffix
such as
>> a
>> A or a ?B which to me seems indicative of a problem within the
company.
>> No, they no longer support a rebuild kit for the first two
generations.
>> While you have some experience in using one of these previously,
the
>> task
>> of establishing proper free play and clearances is quite exacting
and
>> unforgiving. If you get it wrong there is nothing left to do but
pull
>> the
>> transaxle and start all over again.
>> The unit I have is now adjusted for the factory shortcomings and
as has
>> been my experience for over 50,000 miles, the system works just
fine.
>> Dennis however no longer recommends their installation and based
on my
>> experience I would not encourage any other owners to venture down
that
>> road for themselves.
>> Feel free to reach out to me off-line or by phone for more of the
gory
>> details.
>> Larry
>> Sent from me using a magic, handheld electronic gizmo.
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>> Date: Fri, 16 Sep 2016 16:38:06 -0500
>> From: Cullen McCann
>> <[638]cmccann1972 at gmail.com<[639]mailto:cmccann1972 at gmail.com>>
>> To: Larry Stock
>>
<[640]larrys at panteraparts.com<[641]mailto:larrys at panteraparts.com>>
>> Cc: Email List Address For Posting
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>> om>>,
>> Larry Finch
>> <[644]fresnofinches at aol.com<[645]mailto:fresnofinches at aol.com>>
>> Subject: Re: [DeTomaso] McLeod hydraulic throw out
>> Message-ID:
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>> well, I have the quicktime bellhousing for the ZF on 4653. I
forgot to
>> mention that. Also didn't consider it would be relevant. hmmmm.
>> On Fri, Sep 16, 2016 at 3:53 PM, Larry Stock
>>
<[648]larrys at panteraparts.com<[649]mailto:larrys at panteraparts.com>>
>> wrote:
>> The basic problem is that the bell housing is too confined and
not
>> ventilated well enough to dissipate the heat. The Superformance
is
>> using a
>> Quick Time bell housing that has much more ventilation than the
>> DeTomaso
>> Bell housing. Just another reason not to run those Plugs that
some
>> vendors
>> offer, that close off the inspection hole at the left hand top of
the
>> bell
>> housing. That is the only heat dissipation vent there is.
>> Larry
>> On 9/16/16, 1:26 PM, "DeTomaso on behalf of Will Kooiman"
>>
<[650]detomaso-bounces at server.detomasolist.com<mailto:detomaso-bounces@
serve
>> [651]r.detomasolist.com> on behalf of
>> [652]will.kooiman at gmail.com<[653]mailto:will.kooiman at gmail.com>>
wrote:
>> Wow.
>> I have one in my Cobra, and so far it has worked perfectly.
>> My Cobra came with an external slave from a Volvo that was
readily
>> available 20 years ago, but is now unobtanium. Rather than
building a
>> new
>> bracket for a different slave, I switched to a McLeod slave.
>> At any rate, as I said, it has worked perfectly - so far.
>> --
>> Will
>> On 9/16/16 3:35 PM, "Larry Finch via DeTomaso"
>>
<[654]detomaso at server.detomasolist.com<[655]mailto:detomaso at server.deto
masolist.c
>> om>> wrote:
>> Cullen,
>> 2511 came equipped with one of those from Dennis when I purchased
it in
>> 2002. Since then I have rebuilt the unit twice (three?) and most
>> recently
>> did so using what I believe to be their current offering. I spoke
with
>> and ordered directly from McLeod.
>> My opinion, in brief, is a very simple "NO!!"
>> The current offering was shipped to me with an incorrect input
snout
>> spacer (I solved that by using the old spacer which luckily I
still had
>> on hand), and the stainless steel input line, due to its 90?
fitting
>> where one should have used a 45? fitting, twisted itself, unseen
of
>> course, within the bell housing when it was connected to the hard
line
>> attached to the chassis rails. Even stainless steel lines don't
hold up
>> very long against grinding by a pressure plate.
>> The stainless steel bleed line is about 4 inches too long,
sticking
>> outside the bell housing in a terrible display of ugly.
>> Finally, my last experience started with me ordering the same
rebuild
>> kit
>> I had previously used, using the same number off of the previous
>> invoice.
>> What I received from them was the rebuild kit for the current
unit
>> which
>> uses an entirely different set of all rings. I ultimately
determined
>> that
>> for all three generations of their hydraulic bearing McLeod has
used
>> exactly the same rebuild kit part number. They added no suffix
such as
>> a
>> ? A or a ?B which to me seems indicative of a problem within the
>> company.
>> No, they no longer support a rebuild kit for the first two
generations.
>> While you have some experience in using one of these previously,
the
>> task
>> of establishing proper free play and clearances is quite exacting
and
>> unforgiving. If you get it wrong there is nothing left to do but
pull
>> the
>> transaxle and start all over again.
>> The unit I have is now adjusted for the factory shortcomings and
as has
>> been my experience for over 50,000 miles, the system works just
fine.
>> Dennis however no longer recommends their installation and based
on my
>> experience I would not encourage any other owners to venture down
that
>> road for themselves.
>> Feel free to reach out to me off-line or by phone for more of the
gory
>> details.
>> Larry
>> Sent from me using a magic, handheld electronic gizmo.
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>> well, I have the quicktime bellhousing for the ZF on 4653. I
>> forgot to
>> mention that. Also didn't consider it would be relevant.
hmmmm.
>> On Fri, Sep 16, 2016 at 3:53 PM, Larry Stock
>>
<[1][665]larrys at panteraparts.com<[666]mailto:larrys at panteraparts.com>>
>> wrote:
>> The basic problem is that the bell housing is too confined
and
>> not
>> ventilated well enough to dissipate the heat. The
Superformance
>> is
>> using a
>> Quick Time bell housing that has much more ventilation
than the
>> DeTomaso
>> Bell housing. Just another reason not to run those Plugs
that
>> some
>> vendors
>> offer, that close off the inspection hole at the left hand
top
>> of
>> the bell
>> housing. That is the only heat dissipation vent there is.
>> Larry
>> On 9/16/16, 1:26 PM, "DeTomaso on behalf of Will Kooiman"
>>
>>
<[2][667]detomaso-bounces at server.detomasolist.com<mailto:detomaso-bounc
es at se
>> [668]rver.detomasolist.com> on behalf of
>>
[3][669]will.kooiman at gmail.com<[670]mailto:will.kooiman at gmail.com>>
wrote:
>>> Wow.
>>>
>>> I have one in my Cobra, and so far it has worked perfectly.
>>>
>>> My Cobra came with an external slave from a Volvo that was
>> readily
>>> available 20 years ago, but is now unobtanium.A Rather than
>> building a new
>>> bracket for a different slave, I switched to a McLeod slave.
>>>
>>> At any rate, as I said, it has worked perfectly - so far.
>>>
>>> --
>>> Will
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> On 9/16/16 3:35 PM, "Larry Finch via DeTomaso"
>>
>>>
<[4][671]detomaso at server.detomasolist.com<[672]mailto:detomaso at server.d
etomasoli
>> [673]st.com>> wrote:
>>>
>>>> Cullen,
>>>>
>>>> 2511 came equipped with one of those from Dennis when I
>> purchased
>> it in
>>>> 2002. Since then I have rebuilt the unit twice (three?) and
>> most
>> recently
>>>> did so using what I believe to be their current offering. I
>> spoke
>> with
>>>> and ordered directly from McLeod.
>>>>
>>>> My opinion, in brief, is a very simple "NO!!"
>>>>
>>>> The current offering was shipped to me with an incorrect input
>> snout
>>>> spacer (I solved that by using the old spacer which luckily I
>> still had
>>>> on hand), and the stainless steel input line, due to its
>> 90ADEG
>> fitting
>>>> where one should have used a 45ADEG fitting, twisted itself,
>> unseen of
>>>> course, within the bell housing when it was connected to the
>> hard
>> line
>>>> attached to the chassis rails. Even stainless steel lines
>> don't
>> hold up
>>>> very long against grinding by a pressure plate.
>>>>
>>>> The stainless steel bleed line is about 4 inches too long,
>> sticking
>>>> outside the bell housing in a terrible display of ugly.
>>>>
>>>> Finally, my last experience started with me ordering the same
>> rebuild kit
>>>> I had previously used, using the same number off of the
>> previous
>> invoice.
>>>> What I received from them was the rebuild kit for the current
>> unit
>> which
>>>> uses an entirely different set of all rings. I ultimately
>> determined that
>>>> for all three generations of their hydraulic bearing McLeod
>> has
>> used
>>>> exactly the same rebuild kit part number. They added no suffix
>> such as a
>>>> A A or a AB which to me seems indicative of a problem within
>> the
>> company.
>>>> No, they no longer support a rebuild kit for the first two
>> generations.
>>>>
>>>> While you have some experience in using one of these
>> previously,
>> the task
>>>> of establishing proper free play and clearances is quite
>> exacting
>> and
>>>> unforgiving. If you get it wrong there is nothing left to do
>> but
>> pull the
>>>> transaxle and start all over again.
>>>>
>>>> The unit I have is now adjusted for the factory shortcomings
>> and
>> as has
>>>> been my experience for over 50,000 miles, the system works
>> just
>> fine.
>>>> Dennis however no longer recommends their installation and
>> based
>> on my
>>>> experience I would not encourage any other owners to venture
>> down
>> that
>>>> road for themselves.
>>>>
>>>> Feel free to reach out to me off-line or by phone for more of
>> the
>> gory
>>>> details.
>>>>
>>>> Larry
>>>>
>>>> Sent from me using a magic, handheld electronic gizmo.
>>>> _______________________________________________
>>>>
>>>>
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>> Message: 21
>> Date: Fri, 16 Sep 2016 21:46:51 +0000
>> From: michael frazier
<[695]red3644 at hotmail.com<[696]mailto:red3644 at hotmail.com>>
>> To:
>>
"[697]detomaso at server.detomasolist.com<[698]mailto:detomaso at server.deto
masolist.c
>> om>"
>>
>>
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>> Subject: [DeTomaso] NPC, Need transmission suggestions
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>> Hi All,
>> I?m putting a 1951 Ford truck back on the road. It sat in a barn
since
>> 1961 and only has 25k miles,
>> but those were farm miles and it is beat though not rusted out.
>> Beautiful Rat Rod patina that will
>> remain. The frame is boxed and cross braced, and holds a
complete
>> Jaguar XJ suspension front and back.
>> I plan to run a spare Cleveland, actually a real Boss 351, and
want an
>> overdrive transmission. Manual or
>> automatic, either one. It won?t be drag raced but will be used
>> regularly and would likely be run in an
>> open road race some time. That?s the reason for the overdrive.
>> I?ve been out of this part of the game for a while and was
wondering
>> what would work well.
>> What would bolt up and work. What would it come out of?
>> Any info and ideas would be greatly appreciated.
>> Michael
>> Sent from
Mail<[133][705]https://go.microsoft.com/fwlink/?LinkId=550986> for
>> Windows 10
>> -------------- next part --------------
>> Hi All,
>> I'm putting a 1951 Ford truck back on the road. It sat in a
barn
>> since
>> 1961 and only has 25k miles,
>> but those were farm miles and it is beat though not rusted
out.
>> Beautiful Rat Rod patina that will
>> remain. The frame is boxed and cross braced, and holds a
complete
>> Jaguar XJ suspension front and back.
>> I plan to run a spare Cleveland, actually a real Boss 351,
and
>> want an
>> overdrive transmission. Manual or
>> automatic, either one. It won't be drag raced but will be
used
>> regularly and would likely be run in an
>> open road race some time. That's the reason for the
overdrive.
>> I've been out of this part of the game for a while and was
>> wondering
>> what would work well.
>> What would bolt up and work. What would it come out of?
>> Any info and ideas would be greatly appreciated.
>> Michael
>> Sent from [1]Mail for Windows 10
>> References
>> 1. [134][706]https://go.microsoft.com/fwlink/?LinkId=550986
>> ------------------------------
>> Message: 22
>> Date: Fri, 16 Sep 2016 15:04:46 -0700
>> From: "David Nunn"
<[707]dnunn at telus.net<[708]mailto:dnunn at telus.net>>
>> To: "'Mike Drew'"
<[709]MikeLDrew at aol.com<[710]mailto:MikeLDrew at aol.com>>,
>> "'Julian Kift'"
>>
<[711]julian_kift at hotmail.com<[712]mailto:julian_kift at hotmail.com>>
>> Cc:
>>
[713]detomaso at server.detomasolist.com<[714]mailto:detomaso at server.detom
asolist.co
>> m>
>> Subject: Re: [DeTomaso] Sanden Compressors noises
>> Message-ID:
>>
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9cc80
>> $[716]05ad6580$@telus.net>>
>> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"
>> Julian,
>> Further to what Mike wrote; here's a photo of the front of my
engine,
>> with
>> both IPSCO items installed.
>> David
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: Mike Drew [[135][717]mailto:MikeLDrew at aol.com]
>> Sent: September 16, 2016 2:19 PM
>> To: Julian Kift
>>
<[718]julian_kift at hotmail.com<[719]mailto:julian_kift at hotmail.com>>
>> Cc: David Nunn
<[720]dnunn at telus.net<[721]mailto:dnunn at telus.net>>;
>>
[722]detomaso at server.detomasolist.com<[723]mailto:detomaso at server.detom
asolist.co
>> m>
>> Subject: Re: [DeTomaso] Sanden Compressors noises
>> Julian,
>> Yes, he mentioned two different products for different
applications but
>> only
>> had a link for the stock replacement idler. My photo shows the
idler
>> that
>> replaces the alternator to tension the water pump belt.
>> Mike
>> Sent from my iPhone
>> On Sep 16, 2016, at 14:16, Julian Kift
>>
<[724]julian_kift at hotmail.com<[725]mailto:julian_kift at hotmail.com>>
wrote:
>> Mike,
>> It gets even better, that looks to be a different idler
again, the
>> one
>> that was previously linked appears to go in the stock
location, but
>> was
>> adjustable from the front negating the usual need to get a
wrench
>> on
>> the rear.
>> Julian
>>
>>
__________________________________________________________________
>> From: DeTomaso
>>
<[726]detomaso-bounces at server.detomasolist.com<mailto:detomaso-bounces@
serve
>> [727]r.detomasolist.com>> on behalf of
>> Mike Drew via DeTomaso
>>
<[728]detomaso at server.detomasolist.com<[729]mailto:detomaso at server.deto
masolist.c
>> om>>
>> Sent: Friday, September 16, 2016 2:11 PM
>> To: David Nunn
>> Cc:
>>
<[730]detomaso at server.detomasolist.com<[731]mailto:detomaso at server.deto
masolist.c
>> om>>
>> Subject: Re: [DeTomaso] Sanden Compressors noises
>> All,
>> Here is a photo of the IPSCO water pump idler pulley setup.
Note
>> there
>> is no alternator in view, as this car is fitted with a flat
>> firewall
>> kit that moves the alternator outboard of the A/C system.
>>
>>
[cid:da0fdac9-[732]8741-4e03-b676-ebaa4760fb6f at namprd18.prod.outlook.co
m<mai
>>
lto:da0fdac9-[733]8741-4e03-b676-ebaa4760fb6f at namprd18.prod.outlook.com
>]
>> Mike
>> Sent from my iPhone
>> On Sep 15, 2016, at 15:41, "David Nunn"
>> <[734]dnunn at telus.net<[735]mailto:dnunn at telus.net>> wrote:
>> Rob,
>> If I'm not mistaken, IPSCO sells a kit that modifies Kirk's
kit. It
>> eliminates the "fitted", non-adjustable belt and makes it
>> adjustable.
>> It sure makes installation a lot easier. It's not listed on
IPSCO's
>> web
>> site so you have to call or e-mail to get details.
>> Also, IPSCO has an idler pulley kit that makes installation
and
>> belt
>> tensioning a breeze.
>>
[1][736]http://www.ipsco.org/Pantera%20Parts/Idler%20Pulley.htm
>> References
>> 1.
[1][737]http://www.ipsco.org/Pantera%20Parts/Idler%20Pulley.htm
>> [2][Idler%20Pulley.jpg]
>> [3]Idler Pulley - IPSCO, Pantera, Viper, Mechanical Parking
...
>> [738]www.ipsco.org<[136][739]http://www.ipsco.org>
>> Pantera Idler Pulley Assembly . Replacement for factory Idler
>> Pulley,
>> this assembly allow adjustment without trying to hold a
wrench
>> behind
>> the bracket to tighten in ...
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[138][747]http://www.ipsco.org/Pantera%20Parts/Idler%20Pulley.htm
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>> Message: 23
>> Date: Fri, 16 Sep 2016 16:26:53 -0600
>> From: bill
<[755]bill at incendium.com<[756]mailto:bill at incendium.com>>
>> To: michael frazier
<[757]red3644 at hotmail.com<[758]mailto:red3644 at hotmail.com>>,
>>
>>
"[759]detomaso at server.detomasolist.com<[760]mailto:detomaso at server.deto
masolist.c
>> om>"
>>
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>> Subject: Re: [DeTomaso] NPC, Need transmission suggestions
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>> Michael:Screw that put a Ford flat head V8 in that suckered.?
>> CheersBill MooreCalgary
>> -------- Original message --------From: michael frazier
>> <[765]red3644 at hotmail.com<[766]mailto:red3644 at hotmail.com>> Date:
2016-09-16
>> 3:46 PM (GMT-07:00) To:
>>
[767]detomaso at server.detomasolist.com<[768]mailto:detomaso at server.detom
asolist.co
>> m> Subject: [DeTomaso] NPC, Need transmission suggestions
>> Hi All,
>> I?m putting a 1951 Ford truck back on the road.? It sat in a barn
since
>> 1961 and only has 25k miles,
>> but those were farm miles and it is beat though not rusted out.?
>> Beautiful Rat Rod patina that will
>> remain.? The frame is boxed and cross braced, and holds a
complete
>> Jaguar XJ suspension front and back.
>> I plan to run a spare Cleveland, actually a real Boss 351, and
want an
>> overdrive transmission.? Manual or
>> automatic, either one.? It won?t be drag raced but will be used
>> regularly and would likely be run in an
>> open road race some time.? That?s the reason for the overdrive.
>> I?ve been out of this part of the game for a while and was
wondering
>> what would work well.
>> What would bolt up and work.? What would it come out of?
>> Any info and ideas would be greatly appreciated.
>> Michael
>> Sent from
Mail<[144][769]https://go.microsoft.com/fwlink/?LinkId=550986> for
>> Windows 10
>> ?? Hi All,
>> ?? I'm putting a 1951 Ford truck back on the road.? It sat in a
barn
>> since
>> ?? 1961 and only has 25k miles,
>> ?? but those were farm miles and it is beat though not rusted
out.
>> ?? Beautiful Rat Rod patina that will
>> ?? remain.? The frame is boxed and cross braced, and holds a
complete
>> ?? Jaguar XJ suspension front and back.
>> ?? I plan to run a spare Cleveland, actually a real Boss 351, and
want
>> an
>> ?? overdrive transmission.? Manual or
>> ?? automatic, either one.? It won't be drag raced but will be
used
>> ?? regularly and would likely be run in an
>> ?? open road race some time.? That's the reason for the
overdrive.
>> ?? I've been out of this part of the game for a while and was
wondering
>> ?? what would work well.
>> ?? What would bolt up and work.? What would it come out of?
>> ?? Any info and ideas would be greatly appreciated.
>> ?? Michael
>> ?? Sent from [1]Mail for Windows 10
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>> Michael:
>> Screw that put a Ford flat head V8 in that suckered.
>> Cheers
>> Bill Moore
>> Calgary
>> -------- Original message --------
>> From: michael frazier
>> <[774]red3644 at hotmail.com<[775]mailto:red3644 at hotmail.com>>
>> Date: 2016-09-16 3:46 PM (GMT-07:00)
>> To:
>>
[776]detomaso at server.detomasolist.com<[777]mailto:detomaso at server.detom
asolist.co
>> m>
>> Subject: [DeTomaso] NPC, Need transmission suggestions
>> Hi All,
>> I'm putting a 1951 Ford truck back on the road. It sat in a
barn
>> since
>> 1961 and only has 25k miles,
>> but those were farm miles and it is beat though not rusted
out.
>> Beautiful Rat Rod patina that will
>> remain. The frame is boxed and cross braced, and holds a
complete
>> Jaguar XJ suspension front and back.
>> I plan to run a spare Cleveland, actually a real Boss 351,
and
>> want an
>> overdrive transmission. Manual or
>> automatic, either one. It won't be drag raced but will be
used
>> regularly and would likely be run in an
>> open road race some time. That's the reason for the
overdrive.
>> I've been out of this part of the game for a while and was
>> wondering
>> what would work well.
>> What would bolt up and work. What would it come out of?
>> Any info and ideas would be greatly appreciated.
>> Michael
>> Sent from
>> Mail<[147][778]https://go.microsoft.com/fwlink/?LinkId=550986>
for
>> Windows 10
>> Hi All,
>> I'm putting a 1951 Ford truck back on the road. It sat
in a
>> barn
>> since
>> 1961 and only has 25k miles,
>> but those were farm miles and it is beat though not
rusted out.
>> Beautiful Rat Rod patina that will
>> remain. The frame is boxed and cross braced, and holds a
>> complete
>> Jaguar XJ suspension front and back.
>> I plan to run a spare Cleveland, actually a real Boss
351, and
>> want
>> an
>> overdrive transmission. Manual or
>> automatic, either one. It won't be drag raced but will
be used
>> regularly and would likely be run in an
>> open road race some time. That's the reason for the
overdrive.
>> I've been out of this part of the game for a while and
was
>> wondering
>> what would work well.
>> What would bolt up and work. What would it come out of?
>> Any info and ideas would be greatly appreciated.
>> Michael
>> Sent from [1]Mail for Windows 10
>> References
>> 1.
[148][779]https://go.microsoft.com/fwlink/?LinkId=550986
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>> Message: 24
>> Date: Fri, 16 Sep 2016 16:31:46 -0600
>> From: bill
<[783]bill at incendium.com<[784]mailto:bill at incendium.com>>
>> To: David Nunn
<[785]dnunn at telus.net<[786]mailto:dnunn at telus.net>>, 'Mike Drew'
>> <[787]MikeLDrew at aol.com<[788]mailto:MikeLDrew at aol.com>>,
>> 'Julian Kift'
>>
<[789]julian_kift at hotmail.com<[790]mailto:julian_kift at hotmail.com>>
>> Cc:
>>
[791]detomaso at server.detomasolist.com<[792]mailto:detomaso at server.detom
asolist.co
>> m>
>> Subject: Re: [DeTomaso] Sanden Compressors noises
>> Message-ID:
>>
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>> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8"
>> Wow !,,,,
>> That looks to nice to cover up.....
>> CheersBill MooreCalgary
>> -------- Original message --------From: David Nunn
>> <[795]dnunn at telus.net<[796]mailto:dnunn at telus.net>> Date:
2016-09-16 4:04 PM
>> (GMT-07:00) To: 'Mike Drew'
>> <[797]MikeLDrew at aol.com<[798]mailto:MikeLDrew at aol.com>>, 'Julian
Kift'
>>
<[799]julian_kift at hotmail.com<[800]mailto:julian_kift at hotmail.com>> Cc:
>>
[801]detomaso at server.detomasolist.com<[802]mailto:detomaso at server.detom
asolist.co
>> m> Subject: Re: [DeTomaso] Sanden Compressors noises
>> Julian,
>> Further to what Mike wrote; here's a photo of the front of my
engine,
>> with
>> both IPSCO items installed.
>> David
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: Mike Drew [[150][803]mailto:MikeLDrew at aol.com]
>> Sent: September 16, 2016 2:19 PM
>> To: Julian Kift
>>
<[804]julian_kift at hotmail.com<[805]mailto:julian_kift at hotmail.com>>
>> Cc: David Nunn
<[806]dnunn at telus.net<[807]mailto:dnunn at telus.net>>;
>>
[808]detomaso at server.detomasolist.com<[809]mailto:detomaso at server.detom
asolist.co
>> m>
>> Subject: Re: [DeTomaso] Sanden Compressors noises
>> Julian,
>> Yes, he mentioned two different products for different
applications but
>> only
>> had a link for the stock replacement idler. My photo shows the
idler
>> that
>> replaces the alternator to tension the water pump belt.
>> Mike
>> Sent from my iPhone
>> On Sep 16, 2016, at 14:16, Julian Kift
>>
<[810]julian_kift at hotmail.com<[811]mailto:julian_kift at hotmail.com>>
wrote:
>> ?? Mike,
>> ?? It gets even better, that looks to be a different idler again,
the
>> one
>> ?? that was previously linked appears to go in the stock
location, but
>> was
>> ?? adjustable from the front negating the usual need to get a
wrench on
>> ?? the rear.
>> ?? Julian
>> ????
__________________________________________________________________
>> ?? From: DeTomaso
>>
<[812]detomaso-bounces at server.detomasolist.com<mailto:detomaso-bounces@
serve
>> [813]r.detomasolist.com>> on behalf of
>> ?? Mike Drew via DeTomaso
>>
<[814]detomaso at server.detomasolist.com<[815]mailto:detomaso at server.deto
masolist.c
>> om>>
>> ?? Sent: Friday, September 16, 2016 2:11 PM
>> ?? To: David Nunn
>> ?? Cc:
>>
<[816]detomaso at server.detomasolist.com<[817]mailto:detomaso at server.deto
masolist.c
>> om>>
>> ?? Subject: Re: [DeTomaso] Sanden Compressors noises
>> ?? All,
>> ?? Here is a photo of the IPSCO water pump idler pulley setup.
Note
>> there
>> ?? is no alternator in view, as this car is fitted with a flat
firewall
>> ?? kit that moves the alternator outboard of the A/C system.
>> ??
>>
[cid:da0fdac9-[818]8741-4e03-b676-ebaa4760fb6f at namprd18.prod.outlook.co
m<mai
>>
lto:da0fdac9-[819]8741-4e03-b676-ebaa4760fb6f at namprd18.prod.outlook.com
>]
>> ?? Mike
>> ?? Sent from my iPhone
>> ?? On Sep 15, 2016, at 15:41, "David Nunn"
>> <[820]dnunn at telus.net<[821]mailto:dnunn at telus.net>> wrote:
>> ? Rob,
>> ? If I'm not mistaken, IPSCO sells a kit that modifies Kirk's
kit. It?
>> eliminates the "fitted", non-adjustable belt and makes it
>> ?? adjustable.
>> ? It sure makes installation a lot easier. It's not listed on
IPSCO's
>> ?? web
>> ? site so you have to call or e-mail to get details.
>> ? Also, IPSCO has an idler pulley kit that makes installation and
>> ?? belt
>> ? tensioning a breeze.
>> ? [1][822]http://www.ipsco.org/Pantera%20Parts/Idler%20Pulley.htm
>> References
>> ? 1.
[1][823]http://www.ipsco.org/Pantera%20Parts/Idler%20Pulley.htm
>> ?? [2][Idler%20Pulley.jpg]
>> ?? [3]Idler Pulley - IPSCO, Pantera, Viper, Mechanical Parking
...
>> ?? [824]www.ipsco.org<[151][825]http://www.ipsco.org>
>> ?? Pantera Idler Pulley Assembly . Replacement for factory Idler
>> Pulley,
>> ?? this assembly allow adjustment without trying to hold a wrench
>> behind
>> ?? the bracket to tighten in ...
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[152][832]http://www.ipsco.org/Pantera%20Parts/Idler%20Pulley.htm
>> ?? 2.
[153][833]http://www.ipsco.org/Pantera%20Parts/Idler%20Pulley.htm
>> ?? 3.
[154][834]http://www.ipsco.org/Pantera%20Parts/Idler%20Pulley.htm
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>> Wow !,,,,
>> That looks to nice to cover up.....
>> Cheers
>> Bill Moore
>> Calgary
>> -------- Original message --------
>> From: David Nunn
<[843]dnunn at telus.net<[844]mailto:dnunn at telus.net>>
>> Date: 2016-09-16 4:04 PM (GMT-07:00)
>> To: 'Mike Drew'
<[845]MikeLDrew at aol.com<[846]mailto:MikeLDrew at aol.com>>,
>> 'Julian Kift'
>>
<[847]julian_kift at hotmail.com<[848]mailto:julian_kift at hotmail.com>>
>> Cc:
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>> Subject: Re: [DeTomaso] Sanden Compressors noises
>> Julian,
>> Further to what Mike wrote; here's a photo of the front of
my
>> engine,
>> with
>> both IPSCO items installed.
>> David
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: Mike Drew [[159][851]mailto:MikeLDrew at aol.com]
>> Sent: September 16, 2016 2:19 PM
>> To: Julian Kift
>>
<[852]julian_kift at hotmail.com<[853]mailto:julian_kift at hotmail.com>>
>> Cc: David Nunn
<[854]dnunn at telus.net<[855]mailto:dnunn at telus.net>>;
>>
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>> Subject: Re: [DeTomaso] Sanden Compressors noises
>> Julian,
>> Yes, he mentioned two different products for different
>> applications but
>> only
>> had a link for the stock replacement idler. My photo shows
the
>> idler
>> that
>> replaces the alternator to tension the water pump belt.
>> Mike
>> Sent from my iPhone
>> On Sep 16, 2016, at 14:16, Julian Kift
>>
<[858]julian_kift at hotmail.com<[859]mailto:julian_kift at hotmail.com>>
wrote:
>>> Mike,
>>>
>>> It gets even better, that looks to be a different idler again,
>> the
>> one
>>> that was previously linked appears to go in the stock
>> location, but
>> was
>>> adjustable from the front negating the usual need to get a
>> wrench
>> on
>>> the rear.
>>> Julian
>>
__________________________________________________________________
>>>
>>> From: DeTomaso
>>
<[860]detomaso-bounces at server.detomasolist.com<mailto:detomaso-bounces@
serve
>> [861]r.detomasolist.com>> on behalf
>> of
>>> Mike Drew via DeTomaso
>>
<[862]detomaso at server.detomasolist.com<[863]mailto:detomaso at server.deto
masolist.c
>> om>>
>>> Sent: Friday, September 16, 2016 2:11 PM
>>> To: David Nunn
>>> Cc:
>>
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masolist.c
>> om>>
>>> Subject: Re: [DeTomaso] Sanden Compressors noises
>>>
>>> All,
>>> Here is a photo of the IPSCO water pump idler pulley setup.
>> Note
>> there
>>> is no alternator in view, as this car is fitted with a flat
>> firewall
>>> kit that moves the alternator outboard of the A/C system.
>>
>>
[cid:da0fdac9-[866]8741-4e03-b676-ebaa4760fb6f at namprd18.prod.outlook.co
m<mai
>>
lto:da0fdac9-[867]8741-4e03-b676-ebaa4760fb6f at namprd18.prod.outlook.com
>]
>>> Mike
>>> Sent from my iPhone
>>> On Sep 15, 2016, at 15:41, "David Nunn"
>> <[868]dnunn at telus.net<[869]mailto:dnunn at telus.net>> wrote:
>>>> Rob,
>>>>
>>>> If I'm not mistaken, IPSCO sells a kit that modifies Kirk's
>> kit.
>> It
>>>> eliminates the "fitted", non-adjustable belt and makes it
>>> adjustable.
>>>> It sure makes installation a lot easier. It's not listed on
>> IPSCO's
>>> web
>>>> site so you have to call or e-mail to get details.
>>>>
>>>> Also, IPSCO has an idler pulley kit that makes installation
>> and
>>> belt
>>>> tensioning a breeze.
>>>>
>>>> [1][870]http://www.ipsco.org/Pantera%20Parts/Idler%20Pulley.htm
>>>>
>>>> References
>>>>
>>>> 1. [1][871]http://www.ipsco.org/Pantera%20Parts/Idler%20Pulley.htm
>>> [2][Idler%20Pulley.jpg]
>>> [3]Idler Pulley - IPSCO, Pantera, Viper, Mechanical Parking
>> ...
>>> [872]www.ipsco.org<[160][873]http://www.ipsco.org>
>>> Pantera Idler Pulley Assembly . Replacement for factory Idler
>> Pulley,
>>> this assembly allow adjustment without trying to hold a wrench
>> behind
>>> the bracket to tighten in ...
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>>> 2.
>> [162][881]http://www.ipsco.org/Pantera%20Parts/Idler%20Pulley.htm
>>> 3.
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