[DeTomaso] McLeod hydraulic throw out
Cullen McCann
cmccann1972 at gmail.com
Fri Sep 16 17:38:06 EDT 2016
well, I have the quicktime bellhousing for the ZF on 4653. I forgot to
mention that. Also didn't consider it would be relevant. hmmmm.
On Fri, Sep 16, 2016 at 3:53 PM, Larry Stock <larrys at panteraparts.com>
wrote:
> The basic problem is that the bell housing is too confined and not
> ventilated well enough to dissipate the heat. The Superformance is using a
> Quick Time bell housing that has much more ventilation than the DeTomaso
> Bell housing. Just another reason not to run those Plugs that some vendors
> offer, that close off the inspection hole at the left hand top of the bell
> housing. That is the only heat dissipation vent there is.
> Larry
>
> On 9/16/16, 1:26 PM, "DeTomaso on behalf of Will Kooiman"
> <detomaso-bounces at server.detomasolist.com on behalf of
> will.kooiman at gmail.com> wrote:
>
> >Wow.
> >
> >I have one in my Cobra, and so far it has worked perfectly.
> >
> >My Cobra came with an external slave from a Volvo that was readily
> >available 20 years ago, but is now unobtanium. Rather than building a new
> >bracket for a different slave, I switched to a McLeod slave.
> >
> >At any rate, as I said, it has worked perfectly - so far.
> >
> >--
> >Will
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >On 9/16/16 3:35 PM, "Larry Finch via DeTomaso"
> ><detomaso at server.detomasolist.com> wrote:
> >
> >>Cullen,
> >>
> >>2511 came equipped with one of those from Dennis when I purchased it in
> >>2002. Since then I have rebuilt the unit twice (three?) and most recently
> >>did so using what I believe to be their current offering. I spoke with
> >>and ordered directly from McLeod.
> >>
> >>My opinion, in brief, is a very simple "NO!!"
> >>
> >>The current offering was shipped to me with an incorrect input snout
> >>spacer (I solved that by using the old spacer which luckily I still had
> >>on hand), and the stainless steel input line, due to its 90° fitting
> >>where one should have used a 45° fitting, twisted itself, unseen of
> >>course, within the bell housing when it was connected to the hard line
> >>attached to the chassis rails. Even stainless steel lines don't hold up
> >>very long against grinding by a pressure plate.
> >>
> >>The stainless steel bleed line is about 4 inches too long, sticking
> >>outside the bell housing in a terrible display of ugly.
> >>
> >>Finally, my last experience started with me ordering the same rebuild kit
> >>I had previously used, using the same number off of the previous invoice.
> >>What I received from them was the rebuild kit for the current unit which
> >>uses an entirely different set of all rings. I ultimately determined that
> >>for all three generations of their hydraulic bearing McLeod has used
> >>exactly the same rebuild kit part number. They added no suffix such as a
> >> A or a B which to me seems indicative of a problem within the company.
> >>No, they no longer support a rebuild kit for the first two generations.
> >>
> >>While you have some experience in using one of these previously, the task
> >>of establishing proper free play and clearances is quite exacting and
> >>unforgiving. If you get it wrong there is nothing left to do but pull the
> >>transaxle and start all over again.
> >>
> >>The unit I have is now adjusted for the factory shortcomings and as has
> >>been my experience for over 50,000 miles, the system works just fine.
> >>Dennis however no longer recommends their installation and based on my
> >>experience I would not encourage any other owners to venture down that
> >>road for themselves.
> >>
> >>Feel free to reach out to me off-line or by phone for more of the gory
> >>details.
> >>
> >>Larry
> >>
> >>Sent from me using a magic, handheld electronic gizmo.
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well, I have the quicktime bellhousing for the ZF on 4653. I forgot to
mention that. Also didn't consider it would be relevant. hmmmm.
On Fri, Sep 16, 2016 at 3:53 PM, Larry Stock
<[1]larrys at panteraparts.com> wrote:
The basic problem is that the bell housing is too confined and not
ventilated well enough to dissipate the heat. The Superformance is
using a
Quick Time bell housing that has much more ventilation than the
DeTomaso
Bell housing. Just another reason not to run those Plugs that some
vendors
offer, that close off the inspection hole at the left hand top of
the bell
housing. That is the only heat dissipation vent there is.
Larry
On 9/16/16, 1:26 PM, "DeTomaso on behalf of Will Kooiman"
<[2]detomaso-bounces at server.detomasolist.com on behalf of
[3]will.kooiman at gmail.com> wrote:
>Wow.
>
>I have one in my Cobra, and so far it has worked perfectly.
>
>My Cobra came with an external slave from a Volvo that was readily
>available 20 years ago, but is now unobtanium.A Rather than
building a new
>bracket for a different slave, I switched to a McLeod slave.
>
>At any rate, as I said, it has worked perfectly - so far.
>
>--
>Will
>
>
>
>
>
>On 9/16/16 3:35 PM, "Larry Finch via DeTomaso"
><[4]detomaso at server.detomasolist.com> wrote:
>
>>Cullen,
>>
>>2511 came equipped with one of those from Dennis when I purchased
it in
>>2002. Since then I have rebuilt the unit twice (three?) and most
recently
>>did so using what I believe to be their current offering. I spoke
with
>>and ordered directly from McLeod.
>>
>>My opinion, in brief, is a very simple "NO!!"
>>
>>The current offering was shipped to me with an incorrect input
snout
>>spacer (I solved that by using the old spacer which luckily I
still had
>>on hand), and the stainless steel input line, due to its 90ADEG
fitting
>>where one should have used a 45ADEG fitting, twisted itself,
unseen of
>>course, within the bell housing when it was connected to the hard
line
>>attached to the chassis rails. Even stainless steel lines don't
hold up
>>very long against grinding by a pressure plate.
>>
>>The stainless steel bleed line is about 4 inches too long,
sticking
>>outside the bell housing in a terrible display of ugly.
>>
>>Finally, my last experience started with me ordering the same
rebuild kit
>>I had previously used, using the same number off of the previous
invoice.
>>What I received from them was the rebuild kit for the current unit
which
>>uses an entirely different set of all rings. I ultimately
determined that
>>for all three generations of their hydraulic bearing McLeod has
used
>>exactly the same rebuild kit part number. They added no suffix
such as a
>>A A or a AB which to me seems indicative of a problem within the
company.
>>No, they no longer support a rebuild kit for the first two
generations.
>>
>>While you have some experience in using one of these previously,
the task
>>of establishing proper free play and clearances is quite exacting
and
>>unforgiving. If you get it wrong there is nothing left to do but
pull the
>>transaxle and start all over again.
>>
>>The unit I have is now adjusted for the factory shortcomings and
as has
>>been my experience for over 50,000 miles, the system works just
fine.
>>Dennis however no longer recommends their installation and based
on my
>>experience I would not encourage any other owners to venture down
that
>>road for themselves.
>>
>>Feel free to reach out to me off-line or by phone for more of the
gory
>>details.
>>
>>Larry
>>
>>Sent from me using a magic, handheld electronic gizmo.
>>_______________________________________________
>>
>>
>>Detomaso Email List is not managed by POCA
>>Posted emails must not exceed 1.5 Megabytes
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