[DeTomaso] DeTomaso Digest, Vol 147, Issue 7

MikeLDrew at aol.com MikeLDrew at aol.com
Wed Sep 7 21:55:10 EDT 2016


In a message dated 9/7/16 9 49 57, owen at tadhgcooke.com writes:


> I am new to Panteras  having bought one one year ago and reworked it
> extensively
> 
> i am used to european cars and i know when a chassis twists and
> therefore is poor on the handling side
> 
> the pantera is the only car i ever had that will lift 2 opposite wheels
> off the ground if you jack it from one corner
> 
> i believe it is an extremely stiff chassis and needs no further stiffening 
> .
> 
> the suspensions may of course need tuning for specific use  but that is
> all in my opinion
> 
> my car at least drives like a go-cart
> 
> 

>>>Well, it may be stiffer than your other European cars, but without 
knowing what they are, that's not saying much.   1950s British roadsters, for 
instance, are no standard to judge against in this department. :>)

The front of the Pantera is fairly rigid, but the rear is extremely 
flexible.   Try jacking a front corner off the ground and see how well the doors, 
or the decklid open.

The four-part chassis stiffening kit addresses this fundamental weakness 
with the piece that replaces the stock engine bay camber bar.   The wide open 
engine bay is rather like a square cardboard box with the top and bottom 
open, laid on its side.   Push on a corner and it just folds flat.   As long as 
the stock bar (or equivalent to include the adjustable kind) is the only 
thing there, nothing will prevent this effect from happening.   The Hall and 
Byars kit piece consists of an upper and lower bar, tied together in a 
parallogram manner.   (I'm only talking about the top part of their kit, not the 
lower part).   As long as the top part is affixed in all four places, it will 
do a tremendous job of stiffening the rear of the car.

http://www.precisionproformance.com/pics/rigid4.jpg

The other three parts of the kit are arguably much less important, but you 
can't just buy the one you want/need; you have to buy the whole kit.

The front half of my kit is still in the box, gathering dust....

Mike 
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   In a message dated 9/7/16 9 49 57, owen at tadhgcooke.com writes:

     I am new to Panteras  having bought one one year ago and reworked it
     extensively
     i am used to european cars and i know when a chassis twists and
     therefore is poor on the handling side
     the pantera is the only car i ever had that will lift 2 opposite
     wheels
     off the ground if you jack it from one corner
     i believe it is an extremely stiff chassis and needs no further
     stiffening .
     the suspensions may of course need tuning for specific use  but that
     is
     all in my opinion
     my car at least drives like a go-cart

   >>>Well, it may be stiffer than your other European cars, but without
   knowing what they are, that's not saying much.  1950s British
   roadsters, for instance, are no standard to judge against in this
   department. :>)
   The front of the Pantera is fairly rigid, but the rear is extremely
   flexible.  Try jacking a front corner off the ground and see how well
   the doors, or the decklid open.
   The four-part chassis stiffening kit addresses this fundamental
   weakness with the piece that replaces the stock engine bay camber bar.
   The wide open engine bay is rather like a square cardboard box with the
   top and bottom open, laid on its side.  Push on a corner and it just
   folds flat.  As long as the stock bar (or equivalent to include the
   adjustable kind) is the only thing there, nothing will prevent this
   effect from happening.  The Hall and Byars kit piece consists of an
   upper and lower bar, tied together in a parallogram manner.  (I'm only
   talking about the top part of their kit, not the lower part).  As long
   as the top part is affixed in all four places, it will do a tremendous
   job of stiffening the rear of the car.
   http://www.precisionproformance.com/pics/rigid4.jpg
   The other three parts of the kit are arguably much less important, but
   you can't just buy the one you want/need; you have to buy the whole
   kit.
   The front half of my kit is still in the box, gathering dust....
   Mike


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