[DeTomaso] Alternator blues....

Jack Donahue demongusta at gmail.com
Fri Oct 7 12:08:09 EDT 2016


Por' - sha

> On Oct 7, 2016, at 7:28 AM, Bill Lewis <lotus0005 at hotmail.com> wrote:
> 
> So, what is the correct pronunciation of Porsche!
> 
> 
> From: DeTomaso <detomaso-bounces at server.detomasolist.com <mailto:detomaso-bounces at server.detomasolist.com>> on behalf of Larry - Ohio Time <Larry at OhioTimeCorp.com <mailto:Larry at ohiotimecorp.com>>
> Sent: Wednesday, October 5, 2016 6:00 PM
> To: 'Jack Donahue'; 'Mike Drew'
> Cc: detomaso at server.detomasolist.com <mailto:detomaso at server.detomasolist.com>
> Subject: Re: [DeTomaso] Alternator blues....
>  
> <<We were in a German language class when it all went down - Good story.>>
> 
> God story....welll????
> 
> 
> Larry (is only 61) - Cleveland (AKA "Baby")
> 
> 
>  
> 
> 
> -----Original Message-----
> From: DeTomaso [mailto:detomaso-bounces at server.detomasolist.com <mailto:detomaso-bounces at server.detomasolist.com>] On Behalf
> Of Jack Donahue
> Sent: Wednesday, October 05, 2016 1:54 PM
> To: Mike Drew
> Cc: detomaso at server.detomasolist.com <mailto:detomaso at server.detomasolist.com>
> Subject: Re: [DeTomaso] Alternator blues....
> 
> OK - here’s a bit of a co-incidence - My father wanted to buy a Porsche
> Super-90 in 1961 at Neillo Porsche  - at that time they had one business
> only - the Porsche dealership on Fulton Ave. in Sacto..
> BUT - Mr. Neillo wanted the car also - a powder blue couple with red
> leather. So the battle began with my father arguing he had cash in his
> pocket and the car was on the showroom floor - so it was “for sale”. Neillo
> won - so my father bought a pearl white Super - removable hadrtop - red
> leather. But he loved the Super-90 (red line-6500). I was in high school
> with Rick and Roger Neillo and almost wound up in a fist fight. We were in a
> German language class when it all went down - Good story. I see the family
> has expanded their business  - more headaches. 
> I am now the longest standing member of the Porsche Club of America( 61
> years) and the only remaining Charter member - it began in 1955. I should go
> pull some rank on the Neillos for old times sake. 
> Anyway - I thought I recognized the name.
> Jack
> > On Oct 5, 2016, at 10:34 AM, Mike Drew <MikeLDrew at aol.com <mailto:MikeLDrew at aol.com>> wrote:
> > 
> > Yes, the Niello family owns almost all the import car dealerships in
> Sacramento. Niello Audi, Niello VW, Niello Land Rover, etc etc. 
> > 
> > https://www.niello.com/ <https://www.niello.com/> <https://www.niello.com/ <https://www.niello.com/>>
> > 
> > Mike
> > 
> > Sent from my iPad
> > 
> > On Oct 5, 2016, at 10:28 AM, Jack Donahue <demongusta at gmail.com <mailto:demongusta at gmail.com>
> <mailto:demongusta at gmail.com <mailto:demongusta at gmail.com>>> wrote:
> > 
> >> Although not related (maybe), does the name “Neillo” represent a family
> name? Just curious.
> >> Jack
> >>> On Oct 3, 2016, at 7:14 AM, Larry Stock <larrys at panteraparts.com <mailto:larrys at panteraparts.com>
> <mailto:larrys at panteraparts.com <mailto:larrys at panteraparts.com>>> wrote:
> >>> 
> >>> Hey Mike,
> >>> After we left you yesterday afternoon, The trip back over the Sierra¹s
> >>> last night was horrific. Rain started just above Placerville as we
> >>> hydroplaned many times the rain was so heavy. The snow started below
> 6000
> >>> feet causing white out conditions several times. At the top of Echo
> summit
> >>> there was a Bad Head On collision that closed the highway in both
> >>> directions for quite a while. Certainly no place for Pantera¹s yesterday
> >>> evening. Apparently The Reno Tahoe Pantera¹s stayed in place for good
> >>> reasons.
> >>> Larry
> >>> 
> >>> On 10/2/16, 9:11 PM, "DeTomaso on behalf of Mike Drew via DeTomaso"
> >>> <detomaso-bounces at server.detomasolist.com <mailto:detomaso-bounces at server.detomasolist.com>
> <mailto:detomaso-bounces at server.detomasolist.com <mailto:detomaso-bounces at server.detomasolist.com>> on behalf of
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> <mailto:detomaso at server.detomasolist.com <mailto:detomaso at server.detomasolist.com>>> wrote:
> >>> 
> >>>> Hi guys,
> >>>> Just got home from a terrific weekend in the Sierra foothills; 24
> >>>> Panteras (of the 36 scheduled) took part in the Niello concours at
> >>>> Serrano.  It heaved down with rain for a very brief period, but that
> >>>> rain then turned to snow which kept the large Reno/Tahoe contingent
> >>>> from braving the summit.  Still, a great time was had by all who
> >>>> attended, and we drove home in splendid sunshine.
> >>>> We were driving in Lori's Pantera, which has a flat firewall kit and
> >>>> uses a GM alternator with built-in regulator.  She drove the car to
> >>>> Vegas this spring, and the alternator failed while we were there.  At
> >>>> first it started acting erratic, with the amp needle bouncing around,
> >>>> and then finally it quit and just showed a partial discharge.  Testing
> >>>> at the battery revealed it was doing nothing at that point.  We
> >>>> replaced it with another one, which did exactly the same thing and
> >>>> failed about 50 miles from home.
> >>>> We replaced THAT one, and the third one has worked fine until today.
> >>>> But it probably only has about 250 miles on it or so.  On the way home,
> >>>> once again, I noticed the ammeter needle behaving erratically, then it
> >>>> quit and showed partial discharge for many miles, then briefly came
> >>>> back to life and showed a very strong charge (since we had been running
> >>>> on battery power for awhile), then discharged again.
> >>>> Methinks the problem is not simply that alternators are failing, but
> >>>> rather that there is some sort of fault in the electrical system.  As
> >>>> electrons are far from my strong suit, I hesitate to start diving it to
> >>>> it blindly.
> >>>> What say all of you?
> >>>> FWIW we've got a spare alternator we will be installing tomorrow, which
> >>>> almost assuredly will work just fine...for awhile anyway????
> >>>> Mike
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   Por' - sha

   On Oct 7, 2016, at 7:28 AM, Bill Lewis <[1]lotus0005 at hotmail.com>
   wrote:

   So, what is the correct pronunciation of Porsche!
     __________________________________________________________________

   From: DeTomaso <[2]detomaso-bounces at server.detomasolist.com> on behalf
   of Larry - Ohio Time <[3]Larry at OhioTimeCorp.com>
   Sent: Wednesday, October 5, 2016 6:00 PM
   To: 'Jack Donahue'; 'Mike Drew'
   Cc: [4]detomaso at server.detomasolist.com
   Subject: Re: [DeTomaso] Alternator blues....

   <<We were in a German language class when it all went down - Good
   story.>>
   God story....welll????
   Larry (is only 61) - Cleveland (AKA "Baby")

   -----Original Message-----
   From: DeTomaso [[5]mailto:detomaso-bounces at server.detomasolist.com] On
   Behalf
   Of Jack Donahue
   Sent: Wednesday, October 05, 2016 1:54 PM
   To: Mike Drew
   Cc: [6]detomaso at server.detomasolist.com
   Subject: Re: [DeTomaso] Alternator blues....
   OK - here's a bit of a co-incidence - My father wanted to buy a Porsche
   Super-90 in 1961 at Neillo Porsche  - at that time they had one
   business
   only - the Porsche dealership on Fulton Ave. in Sacto..
   BUT - Mr. Neillo wanted the car also - a powder blue couple with red
   leather. So the battle began with my father arguing he had cash in his
   pocket and the car was on the showroom floor - so it was "for sale".
   Neillo
   won - so my father bought a pearl white Super - removable hadrtop - red
   leather. But he loved the Super-90 (red line-6500). I was in high
   school
   with Rick and Roger Neillo and almost wound up in a fist fight. We were
   in a
   German language class when it all went down - Good story. I see the
   family
   has expanded their business  - more headaches.
   I am now the longest standing member of the Porsche Club of America( 61
   years) and the only remaining Charter member - it began in 1955. I
   should go
   pull some rank on the Neillos for old times sake.
   Anyway - I thought I recognized the name.
   Jack
   > On Oct 5, 2016, at 10:34 AM, Mike Drew <[7]MikeLDrew at aol.com> wrote:
   >
   > Yes, the Niello family owns almost all the import car dealerships in
   Sacramento. Niello Audi, Niello VW, Niello Land Rover, etc etc.
   >
   > [8]https://www.niello.com/ <[9]https://www.niello.com/>
   >
   > Mike
   >
   > Sent from my iPad
   >
   > On Oct 5, 2016, at 10:28 AM, Jack Donahue <[10]demongusta at gmail.com
   <[11]mailto:demongusta at gmail.com>> wrote:
   >
   >> Although not related (maybe), does the name "Neillo" represent a
   family
   name? Just curious.
   >> Jack
   >>> On Oct 3, 2016, at 7:14 AM, Larry Stock
   <[12]larrys at panteraparts.com
   <[13]mailto:larrys at panteraparts.com>> wrote:
   >>>
   >>> Hey Mike,
   >>> After we left you yesterday afternoon, The trip back over the
   Sierra^1s
   >>> last night was horrific. Rain started just above Placerville as we
   >>> hydroplaned many times the rain was so heavy. The snow started
   below
   6000
   >>> feet causing white out conditions several times. At the top of Echo
   summit
   >>> there was a Bad Head On collision that closed the highway in both
   >>> directions for quite a while. Certainly no place for Pantera^1s
   yesterday
   >>> evening. Apparently The Reno Tahoe Pantera^1s stayed in place for
   good
   >>> reasons.
   >>> Larry
   >>>
   >>> On 10/2/16, 9:11 PM, "DeTomaso on behalf of Mike Drew via DeTomaso"
   >>> <[14]detomaso-bounces at server.detomasolist.com
   <[15]mailto:detomaso-bounces at server.detomasolist.com> on behalf of
   >>> [16]detomaso at server.detomasolist.com
   <[17]mailto:detomaso at server.detomasolist.com>> wrote:
   >>>
   >>>> Hi guys,
   >>>> Just got home from a terrific weekend in the Sierra foothills; 24
   >>>> Panteras (of the 36 scheduled) took part in the Niello concours at
   >>>> Serrano.  It heaved down with rain for a very brief period, but
   that
   >>>> rain then turned to snow which kept the large Reno/Tahoe
   contingent
   >>>> from braving the summit.  Still, a great time was had by all who
   >>>> attended, and we drove home in splendid sunshine.
   >>>> We were driving in Lori's Pantera, which has a flat firewall kit
   and
   >>>> uses a GM alternator with built-in regulator.  She drove the car
   to
   >>>> Vegas this spring, and the alternator failed while we were there.
   At
   >>>> first it started acting erratic, with the amp needle bouncing
   around,
   >>>> and then finally it quit and just showed a partial discharge.
   Testing
   >>>> at the battery revealed it was doing nothing at that point.  We
   >>>> replaced it with another one, which did exactly the same thing and
   >>>> failed about 50 miles from home.
   >>>> We replaced THAT one, and the third one has worked fine until
   today.
   >>>> But it probably only has about 250 miles on it or so.  On the way
   home,
   >>>> once again, I noticed the ammeter needle behaving erratically,
   then it
   >>>> quit and showed partial discharge for many miles, then briefly
   came
   >>>> back to life and showed a very strong charge (since we had been
   running
   >>>> on battery power for awhile), then discharged again.
   >>>> Methinks the problem is not simply that alternators are failing,
   but
   >>>> rather that there is some sort of fault in the electrical system.
   As
   >>>> electrons are far from my strong suit, I hesitate to start diving
   it to
   >>>> it blindly.
   >>>> What say all of you?
   >>>> FWIW we've got a spare alternator we will be installing tomorrow,
   which
   >>>> almost assuredly will work just fine...for awhile anyway????
   >>>> Mike
   >>>> _______________________________________________
   >>>>
   >>>>
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