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Jeff Detrich
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Tue Nov 22 09:35:13 EST 2016
Amen. Those battles are so yesterday.
Jeff
6559
On Mon, Nov 21, 2016 at 4:00 PM, Dave Londry <davel at emspace.com> wrote:
> I think that was all a giant slip-up and that Joe has re-considered
> those words.
>
> Let's just proceed on that basis and get on with being a our normal
> gabby forum.
> Dave
>
> On 2016-11-21 2:17 PM, Dan Courtney wrote:
>
> I admit I've been out of the loop for awhile, but I was surprised to
> catch so much flak from POCA officials for posting my opinion on this
> Forum.
>
> I'm a fan of free and open communications.
>
> I'm not a fan of censorship and punishment for stating an apparently
> dissenting opinion.
>
> That's why I live in America.
>
> Question, does POCA now control the editorial content of the Forum?
>
> Will I be restricted from making future posts if I don't endorse and
> embrace the "company line"?
>
> I noticed each post has the following tag "This is the DeTomaso mailing
> list, a free and open forum for the discussion of issues surrounding
> all DeTomaso automobiles. This
> is an unmoderated mailing list"
>
> Is this still true?
>
>
>
> Comrade Courtney
>
>
>
> A > On Nov 20, 2016, at 1:08 PM, Dan Courtney
> [1]<[6]dan at excaliburre.com>
> A A wrote:
> A A >
> A A >A That's a brilliant approach for motivating past members
> to
> re-join.
> A A >A Really makes me feel like getting involved again.
> A A >
> A A >A Dan Courtney
> A A >
> A A >A From: Joe Stockett
> A A >A Sent: Sunday, November 20, 2016 12:40 PM
> A A >A To: Dan Courtney
> A A >A Subject: Re: [DeTomaso] No racing again at the 2017 POCA
> Fun Rally?
> A A >
> A A >A No membership, no vote. Your opinion is optional. We
> don't
> get paid
> A A for
> A A >A our extra work for the club. If you don't pay $75 and
> become a
> A A member,
> A A >A your voice is silent to me sir.
> A A >
> A A >A Joe
> A A >
> A A >A On Sun, Nov 20, 2016 at 1:28 PM, Dan Courtney
> [2]<[7]dan at excaliburre.com>
> A A >A wrote:
> A A >
> A A >A Interjecting in regards to your club events?
> A A >A Are you serious?
> A A >
> A A >A Dan Courtney
> A A >
> A A >A From: Joe Stockett
> A A >A Sent: Sunday, November 20, 2016 12:07 PM
> A A >A To: Dan Courtney
> A A >A Subject: Re: [DeTomaso] No racing again at the 2017 POCA
> Fun Rally?
> A A >
> A A >A I am on the board of directors as Secretary. What is your
> purpose of
> A A >A interjecting in regards to our club events?
> A A >
> A A >A Cheers
> A A >
> A A >
> A A >A Joe
> A A >
> A A >A On Sun, Nov 20, 2016 at 11:25 AM, Dan Courtney
> [3]<[8]dan at excaliburre.com>
> A A >A wrote:
> A A >
> A A >A Hi Joe, are you new to POCA?
> A A >
> A A >A Dan
> A A >
> A A >A From: Joe Stockett
> A A >A Sent: Sunday, November 20, 2016 10:07 AM
> A A >A To: Dan Courtney
> A A >A Subject: Re: [DeTomaso] No racing again at the 2017 POCA
> Fun Rally?
> A A >
> A A >A Hi Dan
> A A >
> A A >A I can't find you in the POCA membership database. Are you
> a
> member?
> A A If
> A A >A not, then what is you investment in our club?A If you
> are
> a member,
> A A >A give me your details of payment and we will have Judy
> McCarthy
> A A >A straighten it out.
> A A >
> A A >A Joe Stockett
> A A >A POCA Secretary
> A A >
> A A >A On Sat, Nov 19, 2016 at 2:49 PM, Dan Courtney
> [4]<[9]dan at excaliburre.com>
> A A >A wrote:
> A A >
> A A >A A A A Ed, Monterey is a great place for a car event, but
> thatas
> A A >A A primarily
> A A >A A A A because of the ability to race on a world class
> track.
> A A >A A A A Iam really, really disappointed that POCA is once
> again
> A A ignoring
> A A >A A and
> A A >A A A A alienating the racers in the Club.
> A A >A A A A Two years in a row without a track event? Whatas
> the
> point in
> A A >A A having a
> A A >A A A A Pantera track car if you canat compete against
> other
> Panteras?
> A A >A A A A Parade laps are nice for daily drivers but not
> worth
> A A trailering a
> A A >A A race
> A A >A A A A car for a 1,000 mile trip.
> A A >A A A A I thought last year was a one time foul-up, but
> now
> itas
> A A looking
> A A >A A like
> A A >A A A A the Club doesnat care about itas racing
> contingency,
> or about
> A A the
> A A >A A A A Pantera racing tradition.
> A A >A A A A As of this moment Iad say count me, The Beast and
> The
> Winged
> A A >A A Warrior,
> A A >A A A A out.
> A A >A A A A Maybe Iall get over this by Spring, if anyone
> cares,
> but I
> A A >A A strongly
> A A >A A A A feel that the ability to host a Pantera track day
> should be a
> A A top
> A A >A A A A priority in selecting a venue for any Fun Rally.
> A A >A A A A Dan Courtney
> A A >A A __________________________
>
>
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>
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> [7]davel at emspace.com
>
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>
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Amen. Those battles are so yesterday.
Jeff
6559
On Mon, Nov 21, 2016 at 4:00 PM, Dave Londry <[1]davel at emspace.com>
wrote:
A A I think that was all a giant slip-up and that Joe has
re-considered
A A those words.
A A Let's just proceed on that basis and get on with being a our
normal
A A gabby forum.
A A Dave
A A On 2016-11-21 2:17 PM, Dan Courtney wrote:
A A I admit I've been out of the loop for awhile, but I was
surprised to
A A catch so much flak from POCA officials for posting my opinion
on this
A A Forum.
A A I'm a fan of free and open communications.
A A I'm not a fan of censorship and punishment for stating an
apparently
A A dissenting opinion.
A A That's why I live in America.
A A Question, does POCA now control the editorial content of the
Forum?
A A Will I be restricted from making future posts if I don't
endorse and
A A embrace the "company line"?
A A I noticed each post has the following tag "This is the DeTomaso
mailing
A A list, a free and open forum for the discussion of issues
surrounding
A A all DeTomaso automobiles. This
A A A A is an unmoderated mailing list"
A A Is this still true?
A A Comrade Courtney
A A A > On Nov 20, 2016, at 1:08 PM, Dan Courtney
A A A A [1]<[6][2]dan at excaliburre.com>
A A A A AA A wrote:
A A A A AA A >
A A A A AA A >AA That's a brilliant approach for motivating past
members
A A to
A A A A re-join.
A A A A AA A >AA Really makes me feel like getting involved
again.
A A A A AA A >
A A A A AA A >AA Dan Courtney
A A A A AA A >
A A A A AA A >AA From: Joe Stockett
A A A A AA A >AA Sent: Sunday, November 20, 2016 12:40 PM
A A A A AA A >AA To: Dan Courtney
A A A A AA A >AA Subject: Re: [DeTomaso] No racing again at the
2017 POCA
A A A A Fun Rally?
A A A A AA A >
A A A A AA A >AA No membership, no vote. Your opinion is
optional. We
A A don't
A A A A get paid
A A A A AA A for
A A A A AA A >AA our extra work for the club. If you don't pay
$75 and
A A A A become a
A A A A AA A member,
A A A A AA A >AA your voice is silent to me sir.
A A A A AA A >
A A A A AA A >AA Joe
A A A A AA A >
A A A A AA A >AA On Sun, Nov 20, 2016 at 1:28 PM, Dan Courtney
A A A A [2]<[7][3]dan at excaliburre.com>
A A A A AA A >AA wrote:
A A A A AA A >
A A A A AA A >AA Interjecting in regards to your club events?
A A A A AA A >AA Are you serious?
A A A A AA A >
A A A A AA A >AA Dan Courtney
A A A A AA A >
A A A A AA A >AA From: Joe Stockett
A A A A AA A >AA Sent: Sunday, November 20, 2016 12:07 PM
A A A A AA A >AA To: Dan Courtney
A A A A AA A >AA Subject: Re: [DeTomaso] No racing again at
the 2017 POCA
A A A A Fun Rally?
A A A A AA A >
A A A A AA A >AA I am on the board of directors as Secretary.
What is your
A A A A purpose of
A A A A AA A >AA interjecting in regards to our club events?
A A A A AA A >
A A A A AA A >AA Cheers
A A A A AA A >
A A A A AA A >
A A A A AA A >AA Joe
A A A A AA A >
A A A A AA A >AA On Sun, Nov 20, 2016 at 11:25 AM, Dan
Courtney
A A A A [3]<[8][4]dan at excaliburre.com>
A A A A AA A >AA wrote:
A A A A AA A >
A A A A AA A >AA Hi Joe, are you new to POCA?
A A A A AA A >
A A A A AA A >AA Dan
A A A A AA A >
A A A A AA A >AA From: Joe Stockett
A A A A AA A >AA Sent: Sunday, November 20, 2016 10:07 AM
A A A A AA A >AA To: Dan Courtney
A A A A AA A >AA Subject: Re: [DeTomaso] No racing again at the
2017 POCA
A A A A Fun Rally?
A A A A AA A >
A A A A AA A >AA Hi Dan
A A A A AA A >
A A A A AA A >AA I can't find you in the POCA membership
database. Are you
A A a
A A A A member?
A A A A AA A If
A A A A AA A >AA not, then what is you investment in our club?AA
If you
A A are
A A A A a member,
A A A A AA A >AA give me your details of payment and we will have
Judy
A A A A McCarthy
A A A A AA A >AA straighten it out.
A A A A AA A >
A A A A AA A >AA Joe Stockett
A A A A AA A >AA POCA Secretary
A A A A AA A >
A A A A AA A >AA On Sat, Nov 19, 2016 at 2:49 PM, Dan Courtney
A A A A [4]<[9][5]dan at excaliburre.com>
A A A AA A >AA wrote:
A A A AA A >
A A A AA A >AA AA AA AA Ed, Monterey is a great place for a car
event, but
A A A thatas
A A A AA A >AA AA primarily
A A A AA A >AA AA AA AA because of the ability to race on a
world class
A A A track.
A A A AA A >AA AA AA AA Iam really, really disappointed that
POCA is once
A A A again
A A A AA A ignoring
A A A AA A >AA AA and
A A A AA A >AA AA AA AA alienating the racers in the Club.
A A A AA A >AA AA AA AA Two years in a row without a track
event? Whatas
A A the
A A A point in
A A A AA A >AA AA having a
A A A AA A >AA AA AA AA Pantera track car if you canat compete
against
A A other
A A A Panteras?
A A A AA A >AA AA AA AA Parade laps are nice for daily drivers
but not
A A worth
A A A AA A trailering a
A A A AA A >AA AA race
A A A AA A >AA AA AA AA car for a 1,000 mile trip.
A A A AA A >AA AA AA AA I thought last year was a one time
foul-up, but
A A now
A A A itas
A A A AA A looking
A A A AA A >AA AA like
A A A AA A >AA AA AA AA the Club doesnat care about itas racing
A A contingency,
A A A or about
A A A AA A the
A A A AA A >AA AA AA AA Pantera racing tradition.
A A A AA A >AA AA AA AA As of this moment Iad say count me, The
Beast and
A A The
A A A Winged
A A A AA A >AA AA Warrior,
A A A AA A >AA AA AA AA out.
A A A AA A >AA AA AA AA Maybe Iall get over this by Spring, if
anyone
A A cares,
A A A but I
A A A AA A >AA AA strongly
A A A AA A >AA AA AA AA feel that the ability to host a Pantera
track day
A A A should be a
A A A AA A top
A A A AA A >AA AA AA AA priority in selecting a venue for any
Fun Rally.
A A A AA A >AA AA AA AA Dan Courtney
A A A AA A >AA AA __________________________
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