[DeTomaso] FW: We want your opinion

Himes, Terry (397C) terry.himes at jpl.nasa.gov
Sat May 21 11:35:07 EDT 2016


I agree.   This is a typical issue that is easily done.  The POCA website and database simply
keeps the information to sort on.   Snail-mail newsletters are sent to those who have set
that in their profile.   Easy breezy.  Duh.


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JPL Jet Propulsion Laboratory
Dawn Spacecraft Team
Rosetta Sequence Team Lead
Phone: (818) 393-6261
Cell:     (818) 653-8213
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From: DeTomaso <detomaso-bounces at server.detomasolist.com<mailto:detomaso-bounces at server.detomasolist.com>> on behalf of Asa Jay Laughton <asajay at asajay.com<mailto:asajay at asajay.com>>
Date: Saturday, May 21, 2016 7:23 AM
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Subject: Re: [DeTomaso] FW: We want your opinion

   Yes, there were too many that I thought simply couldn't be answered
   because there was NO balance to the answers, it was either I fully
   don't agree with you at all, or I think you need to fire everyone else
   so you can do what you want.
   I think the man is a closet narcissist.  Why can't we have a middle of
   the road solution?
   Example.
   He says "he" wants an all-electronic newsletter.  But what about those
   members who don't?  Can't there be a happy medium where those who want
   electronic delivery can -have- electronic delivery and those who want a
   paper copy can get a paper copy?
   According to him... no.  There can be no happy medium.  You will
   conform or you will leave.
   Asa  Jay
Asa Jay Laughton - W7TSC, MSgt, USAFR, Retired
& Shelley Marie
Spokane, WA
******************************
[1]http://w7tsc.org
[2]http://www.teampanteraracing.com

   On 5/21/2016 6:33 AM, Will Kooiman wrote:

   Hi Guys,

   I started to fill out the POCA Direction Survey, but I can't.

   Some of the questions are fine, and need to be asked.  But some are
   designed to support one viewpoint over another.

   For example:

   1.  I fully support the direction the club is headed in under the new
   President and the progressive  BOD members who support moving the club
   forward.

   O  Absolutely, the change was long over due.  I can already see the
   difference.

   O  Not at all, please stop improving things and leave it alone.

   The responses can be interpreted thusly:

   A.  Rock on, you are awesome, and everyone else is an idiot.

   B.  I'm stupid, and I like it that way.

   Seriously?

   How about?

   C.  I support the direction the club is headed, but the President is
   alienating too many members and needs to tone down his message.

   D.  Why not have a free form text field and let the members write what
   they want?  It's not like we have billions of members and can't sort
   through their responses.

   Will.

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   Date: Friday, May 20, 2016 at 10:34 PM
   To: Will Kooiman [7]<[5]will.kooiman at gmail.com<mailto:will.kooiman at gmail.com>>
   Subject: We want your opinion


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   I agree.   This is a typical issue that is easily done.  The POCA
   website and database simply
   keeps the information to sort on.   Snail-mail newsletters are sent to
   those who have set
   that in their profile.   Easy breezy.  Duh.

   "A Purple Heart proves you were smart enough to hatch a plan,

    stupid enough to try it and lucky enough to survive!"

   Terry W. Himes

   JPL Jet Propulsion Laboratory

   Dawn Spacecraft Team

   Rosetta Sequence Team Lead

   Phone: (818) 393-6261

   Cell:     (818) 653-8213

   Fax:     (818) 393-3147

   [1]thimes at jpl.nasa.gov

   From: DeTomaso <[2]detomaso-bounces at server.detomasolist.com> on behalf
   of Asa Jay Laughton <[3]asajay at asajay.com>
   Date: Saturday, May 21, 2016 7:23 AM
   To: "[4]detomaso at server.detomasolist.com"
   <[5]detomaso at server.detomasolist.com>
   Subject: Re: [DeTomaso] FW: We want your opinion

      Yes, there were too many that I thought simply couldn't be answered
      because there was NO balance to the answers, it was either I fully
      don't agree with you at all, or I think you need to fire everyone
   else
      so you can do what you want.
      I think the man is a closet narcissist.  Why can't we have a middle
   of
      the road solution?
      Example.
      He says "he" wants an all-electronic newsletter.  But what about
   those
      members who don't?  Can't there be a happy medium where those who
   want
      electronic delivery can -have- electronic delivery and those who
   want a
      paper copy can get a paper copy?
      According to him... no.  There can be no happy medium.  You will
      conform or you will leave.
      Asa  Jay
   Asa Jay Laughton - W7TSC, MSgt, USAFR, Retired
   & Shelley Marie
   Spokane, WA
   ******************************
   [1][6]http://w7tsc.org
   [2][7]http://www.teampanteraracing.com
      On 5/21/2016 6:33 AM, Will Kooiman wrote:
      Hi Guys,
      I started to fill out the POCA Direction Survey, but I can't.
      Some of the questions are fine, and need to be asked.  But some are
      designed to support one viewpoint over another.
      For example:
      1.  I fully support the direction the club is headed in under the
   new
      President and the progressive  BOD members who support moving the
   club
      forward.
      O  Absolutely, the change was long over due.  I can already see the
      difference.
      O  Not at all, please stop improving things and leave it alone.
      The responses can be interpreted thusly:
      A.  Rock on, you are awesome, and everyone else is an idiot.
      B.  I'm stupid, and I like it that way.
      Seriously?
      How about?
      C.  I support the direction the club is headed, but the President is
      alienating too many members and needs to tone down his message.
      D.  Why not have a free form text field and let the members write
   what
      they want?  It's not like we have billions of members and can't sort
      through their responses.
      Will.
      From: [3]<[1][8]survey-noreply at smo.surveymonkey.com> on behalf of
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   [5]<[3][10]member at surveymonkey.com>
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      Date: Friday, May 20, 2016 at 10:34 PM
      To: Will Kooiman [7]<[5][12]will.kooiman at gmail.com>
      Subject: We want your opinion
                                 POCA Direction Survey
       We're conducting a survey and your input would be appreciated.
   Click
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