[DeTomaso] Coming POCA Registry

[Michael Shortt]

Gary,

You are correct and have essentially modeled the Registry I will be
creating.
25-40 data points for the car as new plus 15-20 data points as the car
exists today as reported by the current owners.

The exact number of Panteras produced seems nebulous, yet we do know that
5,244 were imported by Ford.
>From MartiReports, I know yearly totals, colors, serial numbers and dates
for 150 cars.

The only kind of Registry that matters to me is one that is 100% correct
with verifiable, detailed content. We are not building this for ourselves
as much as we are for those in the future.
Sure it will be fun to see exactly when changes were made, right down to
the First car with the new seats, a ribbed decklid or the solid engine
screen. I'm sure bragging rights will come to many as we review the records
in the years to come.

I appreciate your grasp of a proper Registry.

Michael Shortt
On Mar 3, 2016 9:09 AM, <gow2 at rc-tech.net> wrote:

> I think the first thing POCA needs to do is define what is a legitimate
> registry. If the POCA wants to spend hours searching the internet for
> information to load in the registry then I would not call it a registry.
> There were about 7000 cars made so if POCA has 5000 entries it would be
> more fiction then legit.
>
> Pantera owners need a legitimate registry from a legitimate Pantera
> organization to represent them. It should be a registration and not a
> google-wikepedea document.  I would not say that a site like that is not
> valuable for investigative research but I would not call it a registry.
>
> Making a legitimate registry is all about how the information is gathered.
> Being represented by a key organization is key too. I would limit the
> sources of information to come into the registry. The most valuable
> information would be from those who chose to participate.
>
> The information should be listed as "reported by owner as of date xyz". I
> would allow very few other sources of information. If the Marti Report
> allows you to copy their info then it would be referenced as "by the Marti
> Report". I would only allow official information from say the DeTomaso
> factory if found, perhaps Hall if he had a list of converted cars if they
> could get that info from Bev, but that's about it. Even then if a car
> shows information it's not registered.
>
> There is a huge benefit from owners/cars who register their cars with
> legitimate organization backed registries. The goal should NOT be 5000 of
> the 7000 cars. That can only be fiction. If 500-1000 cars are in the
> registry after several years, I would say that's a real accomplishment. It
> will be a significant differentiator for cars and car owners if
> legitimate.
>
> I have 2 cars, #1905 and #1280. I have not entered them in any legitimate
> registry which exist today. I live in a very rural Midwest town and I know
> of half a dozen Panteras which are in no legitimate registry. If a
> legitimate registry is created, and I enter it, lets say I sell the car
> and the car ends up at an exotic dealership.
>
> I bought one of my cars from an exotic dealership. I have done google
> research and found the original owner but it's not an official record from
> the original owner. Even if I found a copy of that info in a document
> where they did the same google research there is nothing official about
> it.
>
> So I think the big question is, what makes an official legit registry that
> POCA would put their name on? Anything less only muddies the marquee.
> Having a non legit gogle-wikepedea type of site and calling it a registry
> could really damage the brand.
>
>
>
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   Gary,

   You are correct and have essentially modeled the Registry I will be
   creating.
   25-40 data points for the car as new plus 15-20 data points as the car
   exists today as reported by the current owners.

   The exact number of Panteras produced seems nebulous, yet we do know
   that 5,244 were imported by Ford.
   From MartiReports, I know yearly totals, colors, serial numbers and
   dates for 150 cars.

   The only kind of Registry that matters to me is one that is 100%
   correct with verifiable, detailed content. We are not building this for
   ourselves as much as we are for those in the future.
   Sure it will be fun to see exactly when changes were made, right down
   to the First car with the new seats, a ribbed decklid or the solid
   engine screen. I'm sure bragging rights will come to many as we review
   the records in the years to come.

   I appreciate your grasp of a proper Registry.

   Michael Shortt

   On Mar 3, 2016 9:09 AM, <[1]gow2 at rc-tech.net> wrote:

     I think the first thing POCA needs to do is define what is a
     legitimate
     registry. If the POCA wants to spend hours searching the internet
     for
     information to load in the registry then I would not call it a
     registry.
     There were about 7000 cars made so if POCA has 5000 entries it would
     be
     more fiction then legit.
     Pantera owners need a legitimate registry from a legitimate Pantera
     organization to represent them. It should be a registration and not
     a
     google-wikepedea document.A  I would not say that a site like that
     is not
     valuable for investigative research but I would not call it a
     registry.
     Making a legitimate registry is all about how the information is
     gathered.
     Being represented by a key organization is key too. I would limit
     the
     sources of information to come into the registry. The most valuable
     information would be from those who chose to participate.
     The information should be listed as "reported by owner as of date
     xyz". I
     would allow very few other sources of information. If the Marti
     Report
     allows you to copy their info then it would be referenced as "by the
     Marti
     Report". I would only allow official information from say the
     DeTomaso
     factory if found, perhaps Hall if he had a list of converted cars if
     they
     could get that info from Bev, but that's about it. Even then if a
     car
     shows information it's not registered.
     There is a huge benefit from owners/cars who register their cars
     with
     legitimate organization backed registries. The goal should NOT be
     5000 of
     the 7000 cars. That can only be fiction. If 500-1000 cars are in the
     registry after several years, I would say that's a real
     accomplishment. It
     will be a significant differentiator for cars and car owners if
     legitimate.
     I have 2 cars, #1905 and #1280. I have not entered them in any
     legitimate
     registry which exist today. I live in a very rural Midwest town and
     I know
     of half a dozen Panteras which are in no legitimate registry. If a
     legitimate registry is created, and I enter it, lets say I sell the
     car
     and the car ends up at an exotic dealership.
     I bought one of my cars from an exotic dealership. I have done
     google
     research and found the original owner but it's not an official
     record from
     the original owner. Even if I found a copy of that info in a
     document
     where they did the same google research there is nothing official
     about
     it.
     So I think the big question is, what makes an official legit
     registry that
     POCA would put their name on? Anything less only muddies the
     marquee.
     Having a non legit gogle-wikepedea type of site and calling it a
     registry
     could really damage the brand.

References

   1. mailto:gow2 at rc-tech.net