[DeTomaso] Wanted: Used Pantera Grill

Tue Jan 26 15:01:51 EST 2016

And the bottom line is: IT IS NOT THE SAME ! Nice from far, but far from 
nice should be the answer...

Am 26.01.2016 um 20:34 schrieb Garth Rodericks via DeTomaso:
>     Fixed the formatting...
>     Someone said the screen material used in the grill is not readily
>     available.  That's wrong. It is readily available.
>     Here's a post from PCNC member Tom Galli a few years ago...
>     Nearly Exact Match
>     Source:
>     [1]http://poca.com/pipermail/detomaso_poca.com/2008-April/094439.html
>
>     Back in 2000 when I got the Mangusta I was curious about availability
>     of grill and AC mesh. My reference files for wire cloth held a number
>     of catalogs from various manufacturers. Finding a match to the mesh
>     grill work proved quick and easy so I did not pursue this any further.
>
>     Recently someone on the forum asked about availability of the mesh
>     grill with a follow up post from someone else stating that the Vendors
>     had unsuccessfully spent months looking for this stuff.
>
>     I again looked through my catalogs with the same results as before. So
>     I asked myself, what am I missing? Surely the Vendors didn't miss
>     something so banal.  I requested a sample from a local manufacturer and
>     compared it to the grill work. Not having calipers with me when
>     comparing the two I could not detect any appreciable difference. You
>     must remember that I have a Mangusta and not a Pantera so I was not
>     aware of any possible changes between the cars front and rear mesh
>     work. This prompted me to look at the Pantera mesh work. My conclusion
>     was that the Vendors failed to recognize the front Pantera mesh is made
>     into a diamond pattern by tweaking the square mesh to the desired
>     diamond shape. (the mesh is not a welded fabric but a woven cloth,
>     allowing flexibility in changing the square to a diamond).  So I have
>     to assume that the Vendors were looking for a diamond pattern mesh,
>     which, of course, is definitely not available.
>
>     Sooooooooo... Bottom line is that the mesh is a standard item at any
>     manufacturer of wire cloth and that the spec is: 1/2" square opening,
>     inter crimp, with .080 wire. CAUTION: 1/2" OPENING IS NOT THE SAME AS
>     1/2" MESH OR #2 MESH - MESH IS MEASURED FROM CENTER LINE OF WIRE TO
>     CENTER LINE OF WIRE.  This standard item is available in many different
>     materials, which probably varies from manufacturer to manufacturer.
>     Locally it is available in steel, galvanized steel, brass, aluminum,
>     stainless steel, and electro polished stainless steel (sure does look
>     like chrome). Call your local manufacturer for pricing, for I'm sure it
>     varies. [2]http://www.howardwire.com/
>
>
>     Be aware that the original metric mesh opening is 13 mm and SAE version
>     opening is 12.7 mm and the original metric wire is 2 mm with the SAE
>     version being 2.032 mm.  So for you purists, the mesh is not an exact
>     match, but so close as to not be a noticeable difference.  However, for
>     a formidable price I can get an exact match.
>
>     Your welcome,
>     Tom Galli
>     And FWIW, I have found a number of other sources for the material
>     online as well.
>     Cheers!
>     Garth
>
> References
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   And the bottom line is: IT IS NOT THE SAME ! Nice from far, but far
   from nice should be the answer...

   Am 26.01.2016 um 20:34 schrieb Garth Rodericks via DeTomaso:

   Fixed the formatting...
   Someone said the screen material used in the grill is not readily
   available.  That's wrong. It is readily available.
   Here's a post from PCNC member Tom Galli a few years ago...
   Nearly Exact Match
   Source:
   [1][1]http://poca.com/pipermail/detomaso_poca.com/2008-April/094439.html

   Back in 2000 when I got the Mangusta I was curious about availability
   of grill and AC mesh. My reference files for wire cloth held a number
   of catalogs from various manufacturers. Finding a match to the mesh
   grill work proved quick and easy so I did not pursue this any further.

   Recently someone on the forum asked about availability of the mesh
   grill with a follow up post from someone else stating that the Vendors
   had unsuccessfully spent months looking for this stuff.

   I again looked through my catalogs with the same results as before. So
   I asked myself, what am I missing? Surely the Vendors didn't miss
   something so banal.  I requested a sample from a local manufacturer and
   compared it to the grill work. Not having calipers with me when
   comparing the two I could not detect any appreciable difference. You
   must remember that I have a Mangusta and not a Pantera so I was not
   aware of any possible changes between the cars front and rear mesh
   work. This prompted me to look at the Pantera mesh work. My conclusion
   was that the Vendors failed to recognize the front Pantera mesh is made
   into a diamond pattern by tweaking the square mesh to the desired
   diamond shape. (the mesh is not a welded fabric but a woven cloth,
   allowing flexibility in changing the square to a diamond).  So I have
   to assume that the Vendors were looking for a diamond pattern mesh,
   which, of course, is definitely not available.

   Sooooooooo... Bottom line is that the mesh is a standard item at any
   manufacturer of wire cloth and that the spec is: 1/2" square opening,
   inter crimp, with .080 wire. CAUTION: 1/2" OPENING IS NOT THE SAME AS
   1/2" MESH OR #2 MESH - MESH IS MEASURED FROM CENTER LINE OF WIRE TO
   CENTER LINE OF WIRE.  This standard item is available in many different
   materials, which probably varies from manufacturer to manufacturer.
   Locally it is available in steel, galvanized steel, brass, aluminum,
   stainless steel, and electro polished stainless steel (sure does look
   like chrome). Call your local manufacturer for pricing, for I'm sure it
   varies. [2][2]http://www.howardwire.com/

   Be aware that the original metric mesh opening is 13 mm and SAE version
   opening is 12.7 mm and the original metric wire is 2 mm with the SAE
   version being 2.032 mm.  So for you purists, the mesh is not an exact
   match, but so close as to not be a noticeable difference.  However, for
   a formidable price I can get an exact match.

   Your welcome,
   Tom Galli
   And FWIW, I have found a number of other sources for the material
   online as well.
   Cheers!
   Garth

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