[DeTomaso] Today's Mecum Auction Results

Pantdino pantdino at aol.com
Sat Jan 23 23:42:49 EST 2016


For the orange one I suspect it was the "Kustom" interior and twin supercharger motor that kept buyers away.  If I were to buy that car I would want to see the dyno sheets. If someone just bolted on superchargers because they looked cool it could be undriveable.  
 
What we didn't see at this auction was a "normal mileage" (>40K mi ?), minimally or tastefully modified car for price analysis.
 
 
 
Jim Oddie
 
 
 
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From: Sean Korb <spkorb at gmail.com>
To: detomaso <detomaso at poca.com>
Sent: Sat, Jan 23, 2016 6:59 pm
Subject: Re: [DeTomaso] Today's Mecum Auction Results

I wonder if the '71 had too many customizations.A  They were very nice
   mods almost all of them very tasteful but at these market levels maybe
   buyers are looking for originality?A  That would disappoint me to no
   end because of how much I value imagination and engineering.

   On Sat, Jan 23, 2016 at 7:51 PM, Garth Rodericks via DeTomaso
   <[1]detomaso at poca.com> wrote:

     A  A Strong results today for the most part.A  Add at least 10%
     buyer's
     A A premium to each of these prices for what the buyer actually
     paid.
     A  A Blue 73 Pantera with only 3,000 miles! - SOLD for $115,000
     A
     A [1][2]https://www.mecum.com/lot-detail/FL0116-232069/0/1973-DeToma
     so-Pante
     A  A ra/5-Speed/
     A  A Black 71 Pantera - SOLD for $67,000 - looks like a steal, but
     maybe in
     A  A person it wasn't as good as the pics make it out to be.
     A
     A [2][3]https://www.mecum.com/lot-detail/FL0116-232071/0/1971-DeToma
     so-Pante
     A  A ra/5-Speed/
     A  A 74 GTS with just over 5,000 miles - SOLD for $110,000 - that's
     121,000
     A  A with 10% buyer's premium.
  A
     A [3][4]https://www.mecum.com/lot-detail/FL0116-238970/0/1974-DeToma
   so-Pante
     A  A ra-GTS/5-Speed     A  A 74 Pantera with only 11,000 miles - SOLD for $105,000
     A
     A [4][5]https://www.mecum.com/lot-detail/FL0116-230048/0/1974-DeToma
     so-Pante
     A  A ra/5-Speed/
     A  A 87 GT5S SOLD for $220,000 - make that $242,000 with a 10%
     buyer's
     A  A premium, plus any other associated fees!
     A
     A [5][6]https://www.mecum.com/lot-detail/FL0116-230151/0/1987-DeToma
     so-Pante
     A  A ra-GT5-S/5-Speed/
     A  A Orange 72 Pantera with ugly aftermarket wheels - Bidding
     reached
     A  A $75,000 but reserve was not met.
     A
     A [6][7]https://www.mecum.com/lot-detail/FL0116-232057/0/1973-DeToma
     so-Pante
     A  A ra/5-Speed/
     References
     A  A 1.
     [8]https://www.mecum.com/lot-detail/FL0116-232069/0/1973-DeTomaso-Pa
     ntera/5-Speed/
     A  A 2.
     [9]https://www.mecum.com/lot-detail/FL0116-232071/0/1971-DeTomaso-Pa
     ntera/5-Speed/
     A  A 3.
     [10]https://www.mecum.com/lot-detail/FL0116-238970/0/1974-DeTomaso-P
     antera-GTS/5-Speed/
     A  A 4.
     [11]https://www.mecum.com/lot-detail/FL0116-230048/0/1974-DeTomaso-P
     antera/5-Speed/
     A  A 5.
     [12]https://www.mecum.com/lot-detail/FL0116-230151/0/1987-DeTomaso-P
     antera-GT5-S/5-Speed/
     A  A 6.
     [13]https://www.mecum.com/lot-detail/FL0116-232057/0/1973-DeTomaso-P
     antera/5-Speed/
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References

   1. mailto:detomaso at poca.com
   2. https://www.mecum.com/lot-detail/FL0116-232069/0/1973-DeTomaso-Pante
   3. https://www.mecum.com/lot-detail/FL0116-232071/0/1971-DeTomaso-Pante
   4. https://www.mecum.com/lot-detail/FL0116-238970/0/1974-DeTomaso-Pante
   5. https://www.mecum.com/lot-detail/FL0116-230048/0/1974-DeTomaso-Pante
   6. https://www.mecum.com/lot-detail/FL0116-230151/0/1987-DeTomaso-Pante
   7. https://www.mecum.com/lot-detail/FL0116-232057/0/1973-DeTomaso-Pante
   8. https://www.mecum.com/lot-detail/FL0116-232069/0/1973-DeTomaso-Pantera/5-Speed/
 9. https://www.mecum.com/lot-detail/FL0116-232071/0/1971-DeTomaso-Pantera/5-Speed/
 10. https://www.mecum.com/lot-detail/FL0116-238970/0/1974-DeTomaso-Pantera-GTS/5-Speed/
 11. https://www.mecum.com/lot-detail/FL0116-230048/0/1974-DeTomaso-Pantera/5-Speed/
 12. https://www.mecum.com/lot-detail/FL0116-230151/0/1987-DeTomaso-Pantera-GT5-S/5-Speed/
 13. https://www.mecum.com/lot-detail/FL0116-232057/0/1973-DeTomaso-Pantera/5-Speed/
 14. mailto:DeTomaso at poca.com
  15. http://poca.com/mailman/listinfo/detomaso_poca.com
  16. mailto:spkorb at spkorb.org
  17. http://www.spkorb.org/
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   For the orange one I suspect it was the "Kustom" interior and twin
   supercharger motor that kept buyers away.  If I were to buy that car I
   would want to see the dyno sheets. If someone just bolted on
   superchargers because they looked cool it could be undriveable.



   What we didn't see at this auction was a "normal mileage" (>40K mi ?),
   minimally or tastefully modified car for price analysis.







   Jim Oddie







   -----Original Message-----
   From: Sean Korb <spkorb at gmail.com>
   To: detomaso <detomaso at poca.com>
   Sent: Sat, Jan 23, 2016 6:59 pm
   Subject: Re: [DeTomaso] Today's Mecum Auction Results
   I wonder if the '71 had too many customizations.A  They were very nice
      mods almost all of them very tasteful but at these market levels may
   be
      buyers are looking for originality?A  That would disappoint me to no
      end because of how much I value imagination and engineering.
      On Sat, Jan 23, 2016 at 7:51 PM, Garth Rodericks via DeTomaso
      <[1]detomaso at poca.com> wrote:
        A  A Strong results today for the most part.A  Add at least 10%
        buyer's
        A A premium to each of these prices for what the buyer actually
        paid.
        A  A Blue 73 Pantera with only 3,000 miles! - SOLD for $115,000
        A
        A [1][2]https://www.mecum.com/lot-detail/FL0116-232069/0/1973-DeTo
   ma
        so-Pante
        A  A ra/5-Speed/
        A  A Black 71 Pantera - SOLD for $67,000 - looks like a steal, but
        maybe in
        A  A person it wasn't as good as the pics make it out to be.
        A
        A [2][3]https://www.mecum.com/lot-detail/FL0116-232071/0/1971-DeTo
   ma
        so-Pante
        A  A ra/5-Speed/
        A  A 74 GTS with just over 5,000 miles - SOLD for $110,000 - that'
   s
        121,000
        A  A with 10% buyer's premium.
     A
        A [3][4]https://www.mecum.com/lot-detail/FL0116-238970/0/1974-DeTo
   ma
      so-Pante
        A  A ra-GTS/5-Speed     A  A 74 Pantera with only 11,000 miles - S
   OLD for $105,000
        A
        A [4][5]https://www.mecum.com/lot-detail/FL0116-230048/0/1974-DeTo
   ma
        so-Pante
        A  A ra/5-Speed/
        A  A 87 GT5S SOLD for $220,000 - make that $242,000 with a 10%
        buyer's
        A  A premium, plus any other associated fees!
        A
        A [5][6]https://www.mecum.com/lot-detail/FL0116-230151/0/1987-DeTo
   ma
        so-Pante
        A  A ra-GT5-S/5-Speed/
        A  A Orange 72 Pantera with ugly aftermarket wheels - Bidding
        reached
        A  A $75,000 but reserve was not met.
        A
        A [6][7]https://www.mecum.com/lot-detail/FL0116-232057/0/1973-DeTo
   ma
        so-Pante
        A  A ra/5-Speed/
        References
        A  A 1.
        [8]https://www.mecum.com/lot-detail/FL0116-232069/0/1973-DeTomaso-
   Pa
        ntera/5-Speed/
        A  A 2.
        [9]https://www.mecum.com/lot-detail/FL0116-232071/0/1971-DeTomaso-
   Pa
        ntera/5-Speed/
        A  A 3.
        [10]https://www.mecum.com/lot-detail/FL0116-238970/0/1974-DeTomaso
   -P
        antera-GTS/5-Speed/
        A  A 4.
        [11]https://www.mecum.com/lot-detail/FL0116-230048/0/1974-DeTomaso
   -P
        antera/5-Speed/
        A  A 5.
        [12]https://www.mecum.com/lot-detail/FL0116-230151/0/1987-DeTomaso
   -P
        antera-GT5-S/5-Speed/
        A  A 6.
        [13]https://www.mecum.com/lot-detail/FL0116-232057/0/1973-DeTomaso
   -P
        antera/5-Speed/
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      #1382
    "The more you drive, the less intelligent you get" --Miller
      "Computers are useless.A  They can only give you answers." -P. Picas
   so
   References
      1. mailto:detomaso at poca.com
      2. https://www.mecum.com/lot-detail/FL0116-232069/0/1973-DeTomaso-Pa
   nte
      3. https://www.mecum.com/lot-detail/FL0116-232071/0/1971-DeTomaso-Pa
   nte
      4. https://www.mecum.com/lot-detail/FL0116-238970/0/1974-DeTomaso-Pa
   nte
      5. https://www.mecum.com/lot-detail/FL0116-230048/0/1974-DeTomaso-Pa
   nte
      6. https://www.mecum.com/lot-detail/FL0116-230151/0/1987-DeTomaso-Pa
   nte
      7. https://www.mecum.com/lot-detail/FL0116-232057/0/1973-DeTomaso-Pa
   nte
      8. https://www.mecum.com/lot-detail/FL0116-232069/0/1973-DeTomaso-Pa
   ntera/5-Speed/
    9. https://www.mecum.com/lot-detail/FL0116-232071/0/1971-DeTomaso-Pant
   era/5-Speed/
    10. https://www.mecum.com/lot-detail/FL0116-238970/0/1974-DeTomaso-Pan
   tera-GTS/5-Speed/
    11. https://www.mecum.com/lot-detail/FL0116-230048/0/1974-DeTomaso-Pan
   tera/5-Speed/
    12. https://www.mecum.com/lot-detail/FL0116-230151/0/1987-DeTomaso-Pan
   tera-GT5-S/5-Speed/
    13. https://www.mecum.com/lot-detail/FL0116-232057/0/1973-DeTomaso-Pan
   tera/5-Speed/
    14. mailto:DeTomaso at poca.com
     15. http://poca.com/mailman/listinfo/detomaso_poca.com
     16. mailto:spkorb at spkorb.org
     17. http://www.spkorb.org/
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