[DeTomaso] Anybody know why the POCA general meeting last night did not occur?

Fri Aug 12 20:28:39 EDT 2016

Good question but since he was removed by action of the board, I don't think he qualifies for a seat.
I'm sure the POCA board will not allow it.
The whole thing was very sad and uncomfortable and if there is peace now, that's good. Im sure the board is ecstatic to have the total  saying in all issues again.

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> On Aug 12, 2016, at 12:55 PM, marshall smith <marshallgsmith at sbcglobal.net> wrote:
> 
> Another issue may be if Michael stays with the club, does he then become past President and still has a seat on the Board??
> 
> Marshall
> --------------------------------------------
> On Fri, 8/12/16, Will Kooiman <will.kooiman at gmail.com> wrote:
> 
> Subject: Re: [DeTomaso] Anybody know why the POCA general meeting last night did not occur?
> To: "Rob Dumoulin" <rob at dumoulins.net>, "Roland" <willibillie at live.de>, "Pantera Mail List" <detomaso at server.detomasolist.com>
> Date: Friday, August 12, 2016, 5:27 AM
> 
> I think a ban is the sign
> of a healthy club.
> 
> It¹s no
> different than having a bouncer throw someone out of a club
> when
> they cause problems.
> 
> I don¹t know about the ³for
> life² part, though.  The ban should be written
> into the bylaws.  It should include the
> conditions, a BOD vote, a term -
> like banned
> for X years, and maybe banned from elections for X years
> vs.
> banned as a member.
> 
> On 8/12/16, 7:12 AM, "DeTomaso on behalf
> of Rob Dumoulin"
> <detomaso-bounces at server.detomasolist.com
> on behalf of rob at dumoulins.net>
> wrote:
> 
>>    Roland, since even before MS
> was elected, he has been threatening
>>    members with lawsuits
> apparently as a form of intimidation. His
>>    recentA  comments directly
> state he intends to destroy POCA as an
>>    organization, I assume for
> his own pleasure or personal gain. I was not
>>    present on the call and did
> not hear the context of such a ban, but if
>>    any one person's actions
> were to not warrant such an outcome of being
>>    banned, what other behavior
> would have to take place before it would
>>    reach that level? That is an
> open question for everybody to decide
>>    personally.
>> 
>>    Is it
> more civil to degrade and intimidate in order to get others
> to
>>    quit or to set
> standards for expected behavior and let those standards
>>    apply to all members? The
> third option is to allow toxic behavior to
>>    fracture the club which is
> what has been happening the past 7 months.
>> 
>>    MS added
> me to his list of people to sueA  along the way as I was
>>    called a "Backstabbing
> Motherf$!@er". I can live with those petty
>>    threats, I just choose not
> to.A  Setting standards of decency that do
>>    not allow bullying and
> threats seems like a good idea to me, but I am
>>    just one opinion.
>> 
>>    On Aug
> 12, 2016 3:59 AM, "Roland" <[1]willibillie at live.de>
> wrote:
>>    >
>>    > First of all, i
> don't like the actions MS did !
>>    > But banning MS for life?
> Isn't banning for life a relict from the
>>    dark age? What about his
> supporters? Send them out with a sign "I'm
>>    guilty" ? MS was voted
> by many for his promisises making Poca great
>>    again ( didn't i hear
> this very often lataly) What about his voters?
>>    Are they ashamed, for what he
> has done? No ! I haven't heard of one !
>>    >
>>    > Roland
>>    >
>>    > > Am 11.08.2016 um
> 22:42 schrieb Ed Mendez <[2]edducati at mac.com>:
>>    > >
>>    > >A  A He should have
> used PST, because Joe lives in AZ where they
>>    have no
>>    > >A  A DST. At the
> moment AZ time and CA time are the same.
>>    > >
>>    > >A  A Sorry
>>    > >
>>    > >A  A It lasted
> until 7.58, but it was a great meeting, it was so
>>    much less
>>    > >A  A tense.
>>    > >A  A In a
> nutshell.
>>    > >A  A
> Bob publicly announced and made a commitment that we will
> not
>>    be
>>    > >A  A returning to
> pre-2016 BOD ways, keeping all the MS changes,
>>    keeping
>>    > >A  A finances and
> BOD meetings open, etc.
>>    > >A  A Waiting 1 week
> on Mike Burnett for a decision on his VP
>>    position
>>    > >A  A Board
> appointments:
>>    > >A 
> A Les is Past President
>>    > >A  A Mike H is
> Profiles
>>    > >A  A
> Jack D is Newsletter
>>    >
>> A  A Josette is Store manager (non-board)
>>    > >A  A Talked about
> the store and the website
>>    > >A  A Talked about
> banning MS for life.
>>    >
>> A  A Ed
>>    > >
>> 
>> References
>> 
>>    1.
> mailto:willibillie at live.de
>>    2. mailto:edducati at mac.com
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