[DeTomaso] Spal PWM fan control

Bill Moore bill at incendium.com
Fri Apr 15 14:25:04 EDT 2016


    
And Stephen's car is a great great example. He has some amazing neat mods.

Cheers,
Bill MooreIncendium SupplyCalgary

-------- Original message --------
From: Stephen <steve at snclocks.com> 
Date: 2016-04-15  11:47 AM  (GMT-07:00) 
To: 'Tomas Gunnarsson' <guson at home.se> 
Cc: kenn_green at yahoo.com, detomaso at poca.com 
Subject: Re: [DeTomaso] Spal PWM fan control 

Good morrow Tomas!

 

You are, of course, absolutely correct.  

 

For you.

 

My testing with an anemometer has shown that, when going down the road at 80
mph, the air is flowing through the opening at somewhere between 20 and 25
mph, which equates to a volume of around 200 cfm.  Heck, even a 7.5 inch low
profile Spal fan pushes 450 cfm.  

 

I plan to use a pwm controller, so fan will only spin as necessary to
achieve whatever I set as a target temperature in the engine compartment.  I
suspect that, when driving down the road on a hot day, the fan may not be
turning at all.  Time will tell.

 

I am doing this for a couple of reasons - mainly because I like to drive my
cars.  I hate leaving the Pantera out in a parking lot with the engine
accessible to folks fingers.  The dogbone air cleaner is just way too
attractive (ok, maybe not to all of you, but to folks who want a souvenir?).
Not to mention things like swirl tank radiator caps and the like.  Besides,
it is amazing to me how much crap ends up on top of the engine and how much
water ends up flowing up onto the engine when driven at speed.  

 

So, I agree completely with you.  For you, this would be pointless.  But,
heck, for me it is a good thing.

 

Of course, I have made a lot of mods to 5332 with a focus to making her
easier to maintain and more enjoyable.  Few folks will go with FI - but I
really like it - to mention one of may mods.

 

As we all have to remember, what we do with our cars is what makes us happy.

 

 

Stephen Nelson

 

 

From: Tomas Gunnarsson [mailto:guson at home.se] 
Sent: Friday, April 15, 2016 10:33 AM
To: steve at snclocks.com
Cc: kenn_green at yahoo.com; detomaso at poca.com
Subject: Re: [DeTomaso] Spal PWM fan control

 

That must be one of the most pointless modifications one can undertake. The
car moving will create an airflow up and out the opening beyond what any
reasonable fan can produce. That flow will also keep the air below your goal
temperature.

 

Tomas



<-----Ursprungligt Meddelande----->


 

 

From: Stephen [steve at snclocks.com]
Sent: 15/4/2016 6:20:23 PM
To: kenn_green at yahoo.com <mailto:kenn_green at yahoo.com> 
Cc: detomaso at poca.com <mailto:detomaso at poca.com> 
Subject: Re: [DeTomaso] Spal PWM fan control 

That one is just the wiring kit for the controller. 

Thanks for looking - I am going to find what I want if I keep trying. My
goal is to install the window behind the engine and have a controller to
ramp up and down a fan that will be mounted beside the engine on the
passenger side - down low, on top of the frame rails. It will pull air from
below the car, blow up one side and most likely down the other to keep the
engine compartment below like 150F. 

Stephen Nelson 



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From: DeTomaso [mailto:detomaso-bounces at poca.com] On Behalf Of Ken Green via
DeTomaso 
Sent: Friday, April 15, 2016 9:03 AM 
To: Dave <davel at emspace.com <mailto:davel at emspace.com> >; detomaso at poca.com
<mailto:detomaso at poca.com>  
Subject: Re: [DeTomaso] Spal PWM fan control 

says "NOT AVAILABLE" 
How about this one: 
Be Cool/Spal Programmable Dual Fan Controller Kit, Wiring Harness, 
| | 
| | | | | | | | 
| Be Cool/Spal Programmable Dual Fan Controller Kit, Wirin...US $59.99 
| Used in eBay Motors, Parts & Accessories, Car & Truck Parts | | View 
| on www.ebay.com <http://www.ebay.com>  | Preview by Yahoo | | 
| | 




From: Dave <davel at emspace.com <mailto:davel at emspace.com> > 
To: detomaso at poca.com <mailto:detomaso at poca.com>  
Sent: Thursday, April 14, 2016 10:02 PM 
Subject: Re: [DeTomaso] Spal PWM fan control 

This may be current.... 
[1]http://www.speedwaymotors.com/Garage-Sale-Spal-Pulse-Width-Modulated 
-Fan-Controller,35700.html 
dave 


On 4/14/2016 8:16 PM, Stephen wrote: 

I have used a couple of Spal's PWM (pulse width modulated) radiator fan 
controls in the past and quite like them. OK, a bit complex to set up, 
but they do a nice job. Problem is Spal has quite making them. Do any 
of you have one sitting around that needs a new home? If so, please 
let me know how much you want for it. 


Stephen Nelson 


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   Good morrow Tomas!


   You are, of course, absolutely correct.


   For you.


   My testing with an anemometer has shown that, when going down the road
   at 80 mph, the air is flowing through the opening at somewhere between
   20 and 25 mph, which equates to a volume of around 200 cfm.  Heck, even
   a 7.5 inch low profile Spal fan pushes 450 cfm.


   I plan to use a pwm controller, so fan will only spin as necessary to
   achieve whatever I set as a target temperature in the engine
   compartment.  I suspect that, when driving down the road on a hot day,
   the fan may not be turning at all.  Time will tell.


   I am doing this for a couple of reasons - mainly because I like to
   drive my cars.  I hate leaving the Pantera out in a parking lot with
   the engine accessible to folks fingers.  The dogbone air cleaner is
   just way too attractive (ok, maybe not to all of you, but to folks who
   want a souvenir?).  Not to mention things like swirl tank radiator caps
   and the like.  Besides, it is amazing to me how much crap ends up on
   top of the engine and how much water ends up flowing up onto the engine
   when driven at speed.


   So, I agree completely with you.  For you, this would be pointless.
   But, heck, for me it is a good thing.


   Of course, I have made a lot of mods to 5332 with a focus to making her
   easier to maintain and more enjoyable.  Few folks will go with FI - but
   I really like it - to mention one of may mods.


   As we all have to remember, what we do with our cars is what makes us
   happy.



   Stephen Nelson



   From: Tomas Gunnarsson [mailto:guson at home.se]
   Sent: Friday, April 15, 2016 10:33 AM
   To: steve at snclocks.com
   Cc: kenn_green at yahoo.com; detomaso at poca.com
   Subject: Re: [DeTomaso] Spal PWM fan control


   That must be one of the most pointless modifications one can undertake.
   The car moving will create an airflow up and out the opening beyond
   what any reasonable fan can produce. That flow will also keep the air
   below your goal temperature.


   Tomas

   <-----Ursprungligt Meddelande----->



   From: Stephen [steve at snclocks.com]
   Sent: 15/4/2016 6:20:23 PM
   To: [1]kenn_green at yahoo.com
   Cc: [2]detomaso at poca.com
   Subject: Re: [DeTomaso] Spal PWM fan control
   That one is just the wiring kit for the controller.
   Thanks for looking - I am going to find what I want if I keep trying.
   My goal is to install the window behind the engine and have a
   controller to ramp up and down a fan that will be mounted beside the
   engine on the passenger side - down low, on top of the frame rails. It
   will pull air from below the car, blow up one side and most likely down
   the other to keep the engine compartment below like 150F.
   Stephen Nelson
   -----Original Message-----
   From: DeTomaso [[3]mailto:detomaso-bounces at poca.com] On Behalf Of Ken
   Green via DeTomaso
   Sent: Friday, April 15, 2016 9:03 AM
   To: Dave <[4]davel at emspace.com>; [5]detomaso at poca.com
   Subject: Re: [DeTomaso] Spal PWM fan control
   says "NOT AVAILABLE"
   How about this one:
   Be Cool/Spal Programmable Dual Fan Controller Kit, Wiring Harness,
   | |
   | | | | | | | |
   | Be Cool/Spal Programmable Dual Fan Controller Kit, Wirin...US $59.99
   | Used in eBay Motors, Parts & Accessories, Car & Truck Parts | | View
   | on [6]www.ebay.com | Preview by Yahoo | |
   | |
   From: Dave <[7]davel at emspace.com>
   To: [8]detomaso at poca.com
   Sent: Thursday, April 14, 2016 10:02 PM
   Subject: Re: [DeTomaso] Spal PWM fan control
   This may be current....
   [1][9]http://www.speedwaymotors.com/Garage-Sale-Spal-Pulse-Width-Modula
   ted
   -Fan-Controller,35700.html
   dave
   On 4/14/2016 8:16 PM, Stephen wrote:
   I have used a couple of Spal's PWM (pulse width modulated) radiator fan
   controls in the past and quite like them. OK, a bit complex to set up,
   but they do a nice job. Problem is Spal has quite making them. Do any
   of you have one sitting around that needs a new home? If so, please
   let me know how much you want for it.
   Stephen Nelson
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   8. mailto:detomaso at poca.com
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  11. http://poca.com/mailman/listinfo/detomaso_poca.com
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   And Stephen's car is a great great example. He has some amazing neat
   mods.

   Cheers,
   Bill Moore
   Incendium Supply
   Calgary

   -------- Original message --------
   From: Stephen <steve at snclocks.com>
   Date: 2016-04-15 11:47 AM (GMT-07:00)
   To: 'Tomas Gunnarsson' <guson at home.se>
   Cc: kenn_green at yahoo.com, detomaso at poca.com
   Subject: Re: [DeTomaso] Spal PWM fan control
   Good morrow Tomas!
   You are, of course, absolutely correct.
   For you.
   My testing with an anemometer has shown that, when going down the road
   at 80
   mph, the air is flowing through the opening at somewhere between 20 and
   25
   mph, which equates to a volume of around 200 cfm.  Heck, even a 7.5
   inch low
   profile Spal fan pushes 450 cfm.
   I plan to use a pwm controller, so fan will only spin as necessary to
   achieve whatever I set as a target temperature in the engine
   compartment.  I
   suspect that, when driving down the road on a hot day, the fan may not
   be
   turning at all.  Time will tell.
   I am doing this for a couple of reasons - mainly because I like to
   drive my
   cars.  I hate leaving the Pantera out in a parking lot with the engine
   accessible to folks fingers.  The dogbone air cleaner is just way too
   attractive (ok, maybe not to all of you, but to folks who want a
   souvenir?).
   Not to mention things like swirl tank radiator caps and the like.
   Besides,
   it is amazing to me how much crap ends up on top of the engine and how
   much
   water ends up flowing up onto the engine when driven at speed.
   So, I agree completely with you.  For you, this would be pointless.
   But,
   heck, for me it is a good thing.
   Of course, I have made a lot of mods to 5332 with a focus to making her
   easier to maintain and more enjoyable.  Few folks will go with FI - but
   I
   really like it - to mention one of may mods.
   As we all have to remember, what we do with our cars is what makes us
   happy.
   Stephen Nelson
   From: Tomas Gunnarsson [mailto:guson at home.se]
   Sent: Friday, April 15, 2016 10:33 AM
   To: steve at snclocks.com
   Cc: kenn_green at yahoo.com; detomaso at poca.com
   Subject: Re: [DeTomaso] Spal PWM fan control
   That must be one of the most pointless modifications one can undertake.
   The
   car moving will create an airflow up and out the opening beyond what
   any
   reasonable fan can produce. That flow will also keep the air below your
   goal
   temperature.
   Tomas
   <-----Ursprungligt Meddelande----->
   From: Stephen [steve at snclocks.com]
   Sent: 15/4/2016 6:20:23 PM
   To: kenn_green at yahoo.com <mailto:kenn_green at yahoo.com>
   Cc: detomaso at poca.com <mailto:detomaso at poca.com>
   Subject: Re: [DeTomaso] Spal PWM fan control
   That one is just the wiring kit for the controller.
   Thanks for looking - I am going to find what I want if I keep trying.
   My
   goal is to install the window behind the engine and have a controller
   to
   ramp up and down a fan that will be mounted beside the engine on the
   passenger side - down low, on top of the frame rails. It will pull air
   from
   below the car, blow up one side and most likely down the other to keep
   the
   engine compartment below like 150F.
   Stephen Nelson
   -----Original Message-----
   From: DeTomaso [mailto:detomaso-bounces at poca.com] On Behalf Of Ken
   Green via
   DeTomaso
   Sent: Friday, April 15, 2016 9:03 AM
   To: Dave <davel at emspace.com <mailto:davel at emspace.com> >;
   detomaso at poca.com
   <mailto:detomaso at poca.com>
   Subject: Re: [DeTomaso] Spal PWM fan control
   says "NOT AVAILABLE"
   How about this one:
   Be Cool/Spal Programmable Dual Fan Controller Kit, Wiring Harness,
   | |
   | | | | | | | |
   | Be Cool/Spal Programmable Dual Fan Controller Kit, Wirin...US $59.99
   | Used in eBay Motors, Parts & Accessories, Car & Truck Parts | | View
   | on www.ebay.com <http://www.ebay.com>  | Preview by Yahoo | |
   | |
   From: Dave <davel at emspace.com <mailto:davel at emspace.com> >
   To: detomaso at poca.com <mailto:detomaso at poca.com>
   Sent: Thursday, April 14, 2016 10:02 PM
   Subject: Re: [DeTomaso] Spal PWM fan control
   This may be current....
   [1]http://www.speedwaymotors.com/Garage-Sale-Spal-Pulse-Width-Modulated
   -Fan-Controller,35700.html
   dave
   On 4/14/2016 8:16 PM, Stephen wrote:
   I have used a couple of Spal's PWM (pulse width modulated) radiator fan
   controls in the past and quite like them. OK, a bit complex to set up,
   but they do a nice job. Problem is Spal has quite making them. Do any
   of you have one sitting around that needs a new home? If so, please
   let me know how much you want for it.
   Stephen Nelson
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      Good morrow Tomas!
      You are, of course, absolutely correct.
      For you.
      My testing with an anemometer has shown that, when going down the
   road
      at 80 mph, the air is flowing through the opening at somewhere
   between
      20 and 25 mph, which equates to a volume of around 200 cfm.  Heck,
   even
      a 7.5 inch low profile Spal fan pushes 450 cfm.
      I plan to use a pwm controller, so fan will only spin as necessary
   to
      achieve whatever I set as a target temperature in the engine
      compartment.  I suspect that, when driving down the road on a hot
   day,
      the fan may not be turning at all.  Time will tell.
      I am doing this for a couple of reasons - mainly because I like to
      drive my cars.  I hate leaving the Pantera out in a parking lot with
      the engine accessible to folks fingers.  The dogbone air cleaner is
      just way too attractive (ok, maybe not to all of you, but to folks
   who
      want a souvenir?).  Not to mention things like swirl tank radiator
   caps
      and the like.  Besides, it is amazing to me how much crap ends up on
      top of the engine and how much water ends up flowing up onto the
   engine
      when driven at speed.
      So, I agree completely with you.  For you, this would be pointless.
      But, heck, for me it is a good thing.
      Of course, I have made a lot of mods to 5332 with a focus to making
   her
      easier to maintain and more enjoyable.  Few folks will go with FI -
   but
      I really like it - to mention one of may mods.
      As we all have to remember, what we do with our cars is what makes
   us
      happy.
      Stephen Nelson
      From: Tomas Gunnarsson [mailto:guson at home.se]
      Sent: Friday, April 15, 2016 10:33 AM
      To: steve at snclocks.com
      Cc: kenn_green at yahoo.com; detomaso at poca.com
      Subject: Re: [DeTomaso] Spal PWM fan control
      That must be one of the most pointless modifications one can
   undertake.
      The car moving will create an airflow up and out the opening beyond
      what any reasonable fan can produce. That flow will also keep the
   air
      below your goal temperature.
      Tomas
      <-----Ursprungligt Meddelande----->
      From: Stephen [steve at snclocks.com]
      Sent: 15/4/2016 6:20:23 PM
      To: [1]kenn_green at yahoo.com
      Cc: [2]detomaso at poca.com
      Subject: Re: [DeTomaso] Spal PWM fan control
      That one is just the wiring kit for the controller.
      Thanks for looking - I am going to find what I want if I keep
   trying.
      My goal is to install the window behind the engine and have a
      controller to ramp up and down a fan that will be mounted beside the
      engine on the passenger side - down low, on top of the frame rails.
   It
      will pull air from below the car, blow up one side and most likely
   down
      the other to keep the engine compartment below like 150F.
      Stephen Nelson
      -----Original Message-----
      From: DeTomaso [[3]mailto:detomaso-bounces at poca.com] On Behalf Of
   Ken
      Green via DeTomaso
      Sent: Friday, April 15, 2016 9:03 AM
      To: Dave <[4]davel at emspace.com>; [5]detomaso at poca.com
      Subject: Re: [DeTomaso] Spal PWM fan control
      says "NOT AVAILABLE"
      How about this one:
      Be Cool/Spal Programmable Dual Fan Controller Kit, Wiring Harness,
      | |
      | | | | | | | |
      | Be Cool/Spal Programmable Dual Fan Controller Kit, Wirin...US
   $59.99
      | Used in eBay Motors, Parts & Accessories, Car & Truck Parts | |
   View
      | on [6]www.ebay.com | Preview by Yahoo | |
      | |
      From: Dave <[7]davel at emspace.com>
      To: [8]detomaso at poca.com
      Sent: Thursday, April 14, 2016 10:02 PM
      Subject: Re: [DeTomaso] Spal PWM fan control
      This may be current....

   [1][9]http://www.speedwaymotors.com/Garage-Sale-Spal-Pulse-Width-Modula
      ted
      -Fan-Controller,35700.html
      dave
      On 4/14/2016 8:16 PM, Stephen wrote:
      I have used a couple of Spal's PWM (pulse width modulated) radiator
   fan
      controls in the past and quite like them. OK, a bit complex to set
   up,
      but they do a nice job. Problem is Spal has quite making them. Do
   any
      of you have one sitting around that needs a new home? If so, please
      let me know how much you want for it.
      Stephen Nelson
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