[DeTomaso] Rear Glass
jderyke at aol.com
jderyke at aol.com
Fri Sep 11 14:39:05 EDT 2015
Safety glass is required in windshields so it falls apart in little bits & doesn't cut up the driver. Side and rear glass are one-piece hardened- not laminated.
J DeRyke
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Sent: Fri, Sep 11, 2015 10:20 am
Subject: Re: [DeTomaso] Rear Glass
I thought standard automotive window glass was two layers of safety
glass with an adhesive between them?
That is not the same as double pane residential glass that have a gas
filled gap between the panes.
Ken
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Sent: Friday, September 11, 2015 4:19 AM
Subject: Re:
[DeTomaso] Rear Glass
My glass had the same thickness as the original.
Maybe it isn't
double
pane. I told the glass shop what I needed, and
they said, "Oh, you
need double pane safety glass."
The bummer was
that I polished the original glass, and it looked
perfect. I broke it
while I was reinstalling it. That's why I had
to
buy new glass in the
first place.
Kirby - I may have used the same guy you used. The shop is
Woodlands
Car Care, on Budde Rd, just south of Sawdust.
From:
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Date: Friday, September 11, 2015 at 2:56 AM
To: <[2][2]mbefthomas at comcast.net>, Will Kooiman
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<[5][5]rob at dumoulins.net>, <[6][6]DeTomaso at poca.com>
Subject: Re:
[DeTomaso] Rear Glass
Short answer: yes. I used my OEM 1972 rubber gasket
with no problems.
And you get to choose whether the secondary pane
protrudes into the
cockpit or into the engine bay. The distance is about
1/4" so its no
big deal.
Does the double pane fit in the original
rubber?
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Sent:
Thu, Sep 10, 2015 5:18 pm
Subject: RE: [DeTomaso] Rear Glass
Does the
double pane fit in the original rubber?
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Kooiman
Sent: Thursday, September 10, 2015 3:59 PM
To: mark skwarek
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Subject: Re:
[DeTomaso] Rear Glass
I
had double pane safety glass made at a local
glass shop. Mine was
cracked, so
they could use it as a template.
It was cheap too - under $100, if I recall
correctly.
On 9/10/15, 5:39
PM, "DeTomaso on behalf of mark skwarek via
DeTomaso"
<[18][18]detomaso-bounces at poca.com on behalf of
[19][19]detomaso at poca.com>
wrote:
> Some racing organizations require a non-combustible material
separate
> the engine compartment from the passenger compartment.
>
Mark
> On Thursday, September 10, 2015 4:00 PM, Jack DeRyke via DeTomaso
>
<[20][20]detomaso at poca.com> wrote:
> FWIW, Larry Stock of PPC-Reno
sells an exact
Lexan repro. Ron Wade in
> WA made a few double-pane
rear windows for extra
sound deadening; I
> have one. Normally the
rear window never gives
trouble except during
> an engine pull when
the distributor cap is left in
place & contacts
> the
> window
during the pull. One owner found that
Weber velocity stacks
> also
can break the glass during engine removals.
The window is sort
> of
> part of the rear firewall, but in engine
fires, the glass invariably
> shatters early, so using Lexan likely does
not degrade the "safety"
> aspect much. Most 'GR-4s' use plexiglas windows
so the rear legs of
> the
> factory roll cage can extend though to the
rear fenders. One
year at
> Bonneville, a Swedish Pantera showed up to run
like this,
and the
> SCTA
> Tech Inspectors made them remove the Lexan
window and substitute a
> thin
> galvanized steel sheet!
>
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> Sent: Thu, Sep
10, 2015 12:20 pm
> Subject: [DeTomaso] Rear Glass
> Is there anything
special about
the rear glass?A It being flat makes
> me
> think that I
would
not have to go through a vendor and get one made
> just for
> a
Pantera.
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Safety glass is required in windshields so it falls apart in little
bits & doesn't cut up the driver. Side and rear glass are one-piece
hardened- not laminated.
J DeRyke
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From: Ken Green via DeTomaso <detomaso at poca.com>
To: Will Kooiman <will.kooiman at gmail.com>; jderyke <jderyke at aol.com>;
mbefthomas <mbefthomas at comcast.net>; ehpantera <ehpantera at yahoo.com>;
rob <rob at dumoulins.net>; DeTomaso <DeTomaso at poca.com>
Sent: Fri, Sep 11, 2015 10:20 am
Subject: Re: [DeTomaso] Rear Glass
I thought standard automotive window glass was two layers of safety
glass with an adhesive between them?
That is not the same as double pane residential glass that have a gas
filled gap between the panes.
Ken
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To: [2]jderyke at aol.com;
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[5]rob at dumoulins.net;
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Sent: Friday, September 11, 2015 4:19 AM
Subject: Re:
[DeTomaso] Rear Glass
My glass had the same thickness as the original.
Maybe it isn't
double
pane. I told the glass shop what I needed, and
they said, "Oh, you
need double pane safety glass."
The bummer was
that I polished the original glass, and it looked
perfect. I broke it
while I was reinstalling it. That's why I had
to
buy new glass in the
first place.
Kirby - I may have used the same guy you used. The shop is
Woodlands
Car Care, on Budde Rd, just south of Sawdust.
From:
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Date: Friday, September 11, 2015 at 2:56 AM
To: <[2][2][8]mbefthomas at comcast.net>, Will Kooiman
<[3][3][9]will.kooiman at gmail.com>, <[4][4][10]ehpantera at yahoo.com>,
<[5][5][11]rob at dumoulins.net>, <[6][6][12]DeTomaso at poca.com>
Subject: Re:
[DeTomaso] Rear Glass
Short answer: yes. I used my OEM 1972 rubber gasket
with no problems.
And you get to choose whether the secondary pane
protrudes into the
cockpit or into the engine bay. The distance is about
1/4" so its no
big deal.
Does the double pane fit in the original
rubber?
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From: Mike Thomas
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To: 'Will Kooiman'
<[8][8][14]will.kooiman at gmail.com>; 'mark skwarek'
<[9][9][15]ehpantera at yahoo.com>; jderyke <[10][10][16]jderyke at aol.com>; rob
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Subject: RE: [DeTomaso] Rear Glass
Does the
double pane fit in the original rubber?
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Will
Kooiman
Sent: Thursday, September 10, 2015 3:59 PM
To: mark skwarek
<[14][14][20]ehpantera at yahoo.com>; [15][15][21]jderyke at aol.com;
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Subject: Re:
[DeTomaso] Rear Glass
I
had double pane safety glass made at a local
glass shop. Mine was
cracked, so
they could use it as a template.
It was cheap too - under $100, if I recall
correctly.
On 9/10/15, 5:39
PM, "DeTomaso on behalf of mark skwarek via
DeTomaso"
<[18][18][24]detomaso-bounces at poca.com on behalf of
[19][19][25]detomaso at poca.com>
wrote:
> Some racing organizations require a non-combustible material
separate
> the engine compartment from the passenger compartment.
>
Mark
> On Thursday, September 10, 2015 4:00 PM, Jack DeRyke via DeTomaso
>
<[20][20][26]detomaso at poca.com> wrote:
> FWIW, Larry Stock of PPC-Reno
sells an exact
Lexan repro. Ron Wade in
> WA made a few double-pane
rear windows for extra
sound deadening; I
> have one. Normally the
rear window never gives
trouble except during
> an engine pull when
the distributor cap is left in
place & contacts
> the
> window
during the pull. One owner found that
Weber velocity stacks
> also
can break the glass during engine removals.
The window is sort
> of
> part of the rear firewall, but in engine
fires, the glass invariably
> shatters early, so using Lexan likely does
not degrade the "safety"
> aspect much. Most 'GR-4s' use plexiglas windows
so the rear legs of
> the
> factory roll cage can extend though to the
rear fenders. One
year at
> Bonneville, a Swedish Pantera showed up to run
like this,
and the
> SCTA
> Tech Inspectors made them remove the Lexan
window and substitute a
> thin
> galvanized steel sheet!
>
-----Original Message-----
> From: Rob Dumoulin
<[1][21][21][27]rob at dumoulins.net>
>
To: Pantera - DeTomaso Mail List
<[2][22][22][28]DeTomaso at poca.com>
> Sent: Thu, Sep
10, 2015 12:20 pm
> Subject: [DeTomaso] Rear Glass
> Is there anything
special about
the rear glass?A It being flat makes
> me
> think that I
would
not have to go through a vendor and get one made
> just for
> a
Pantera.
> RobA
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