[DeTomaso] Windsor or Cleveland question..

[thomas]

The Windsor is taller, 9.5" vs 9.2" deck height, and thus (at least in theory) wider. Unless you are going for a 302W of course. 

> 2 sep 2015 kl. 17:36 skrev Cullen McCann <cmccann1972 at gmail.com>:
> 
>   Dear Forum,
>   I'm sure this question has been discussed more than once in the past,
>   but I cant readily find it and have only been intermittently involved
>   with the Pantera following over the years.
>   If I get my facts wrong, forgive me. Some is based on research and some
>   based on perception.
>   351 Cleveland or Windsor?
>   I need to build a motor for my car anyway. I do not have the original
>   engine or anyA engine for it at this time. I have had several 351w
>   motors over the years. I understand the following criteria to be true.
>   Both motors displace the same number, approximately, of cubic inches.
>   Both have the same bellhousing bolt pattern. Both have the same motor
>   mount locations. The Windsor is slightly narrower, leaving
>   theoretically more room for headers, fuel tanks, etc on either side.
>   (?) length and height appear negligibly different.A
>   The Windsor is lighter in pounds. According to a few online sources:
>   A
>   [1]http://www.mustangsandmore.com/ubb/EngineDimensions.html
>   ....theA WindsorA  appears to be about 25A lbs lighter,A depending on
>   source and configuration.A Not a huge benefit, but certainly not a
>   drawback . The aftermarket support forA WindsorA family engines appears
>   significantly larger...A everyA 289-302-351w cylinder headA isA an
>   option.A Many different manufacturers and models fromA Trickflow,
>   Brodix, AFR, Ford motorsport,A Edelbrock etc are to choose from. I know
>   of 600-plus streetableA horsepower motors in both. I have a Windsor
>   with similar performance numbers in my Cobra Replica. It was not hard
>   to make 550 horse in the Windsor and parts were very easy to get
>   through and through.
>   My perception is that the Cleveland motor aftermarket support is much
>   narrower, much more limited in choices for heads, intakes availability
>   of good blocks, etc. Factory accessories, exhaustA systemsA etc are of
>   no concern to me.
>   So...the obvious forthcoming question...if originality wasn't a driving
>   concern...why go Cleveland?? Whats the motivation other thanA purity? I
>   find that aA majority of PanteraA enthusiastsA aren't purists anyway.
>   Are their other fitment concernsA I'm not aware of?
>   Thanks for your thoughts..
>   Cullen
>   .
> 
> References
> 
>   1. http://www.mustangsandmore.com/ubb/EngineDimensions.html
> 
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