[DeTomaso] Pictures
Charles McCall
charlesmccall at gmail.com
Tue Oct 13 02:44:05 EDT 2015
All the Pantera SI's received the 5.0 motor as shown in the photo. I've
seen a bunch and they all have the same intake. They also have the same
tubular rear. They made just over 300hp if I remember correctly. I've
driven a couple and that figure would be about right.
Of the 4 Si targas, 2 had Getrag 6-speeds as opposed to ZF's. The yellow
one was one of them.
The Factory switched from 351C to 351W sometime around 1987 in the GT5-S
production. Then for the Si they switched to the 5.0
On Mon, Oct 12, 2015 at 11:18 PM, Cullen McCann <cmccann1972 at gmail.com>
wrote:
> I recall reading the last few carsA received 5.0 engines. I didn't
> realize how they were configured, assuming this one is "per factory"
> (which may be a loose term considering the conditions it was built).
> That tubular intake is a Ford Motorsport "GT 40" intake. Available over
> the counter here in the USAA but not offered from the factory on
> anyA vehicle. The closest you could get was the Ford Explorer with a
> 302 until about 98 or so if I recall. They had the correct lower
> 5.0A intake and a CAST aluminum version of the GT40 upper intake.
> Ford offered the tubular GT40 intake on the Ford Lighting pickup, which
> looked the same but had a different lower intake since the lighting is
> a 351W motor. (5.8 HO roller). I suppose that motor might be a 351W
> lighting motor? I just thought I read they were all either Clevelands
> or the last few were 5.0's. Hard to tell but that certainly looks like
> a 302/5.0 motor with the lower deck height. For what its worth, Ive had
> a 5.0 mustang with that same intake, healthy cam and heads make over
> 400 horse and put me in the mid-low 12's in the quarter. They can be
> very healthy if done right and arguably lighter. But they do seems tiny
> in that engine bay.
> Did any factory equipped pantera ever receive a 351Windsor engine?
> Didn't think so.
> I have never seen an SI up close.A Do all of them have the tubular rear
> subframes like that? Unexpected. Looks more like an individual
> modification.
> Transaxle looks different too. Is it a different generation of ZF?
> Interesting!!!!!
> Cullen
>
> On Mon, Oct 12, 2015 at 2:04 PM, Richard Greenblum
> <[1]Richard at richardgreenblum.com> wrote:
>
> A A I just stuck a few pictures on the scanner of the "last
> Pantera" so you
> A A can see what they're like (old an unprofessional).A I don't
> have that
> A A many of just that car, so there are only a few more.
> A A The distinguished and stylish fellow is Casarini and I believe
> the
> A A blonde woman's name was Claudia.A I'm obviously the bum in the
> jeans.
> A A I didn't mean to embarrass US Pantera owners, but I was
> deployed to the
> A A NATO base in Aviano and none of us brought along a sport
> coat...
> A A Richard
> A A Austin, TX
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All the Pantera SI's received the 5.0 motor as shown in the photo. I've
seen a bunch and they all have the same intake. They also have the same
tubular rear. They made just over 300hp if I remember correctly. I've
driven a couple and that figure would be about right.
A
Of the 4 Si targas, 2 had Getrag 6-speeds as opposed to ZF's. The
yellow one was one of them.
A
The Factory switched from 351C to 351W sometime around 1987 in the
GT5-S production. Then for the Si they switched to the 5.0
On Mon, Oct 12, 2015 at 11:18 PM, Cullen McCann
<[1]cmccann1972 at gmail.com> wrote:
A A I recall reading the last few carsA received 5.0 engines. I
didn't
A A realize how they were configured, assuming this one is "per
factory"
A A (which may be a loose term considering the conditions it was
built).
A A That tubular intake is a Ford Motorsport "GT 40" intake.
Available over
A A the counter here in the USAA but not offered from the factory
on
A A anyA vehicle. The closest you could get was the Ford Explorer
with a
A A 302 until about 98 or so if I recall. They had the correct
lower
A A 5.0A intake and a CAST aluminum version of the GT40 upper
intake.
A A Ford offered the tubular GT40 intake on the Ford Lighting
pickup, which
A A looked the same but had a different lower intake since the
lighting is
A A a 351W motor. (5.8 HO roller). I suppose that motor might be a
351W
A A lighting motor? I just thought I read they were all either
Clevelands
A A or the last few were 5.0's. Hard to tell but that certainly
looks like
A A a 302/5.0 motor with the lower deck height. For what its worth,
Ive had
A A a 5.0 mustang with that same intake, healthy cam and heads make
over
A A 400 horse and put me in the mid-low 12's in the quarter. They
can be
A A very healthy if done right and arguably lighter. But they do
seems tiny
A A in that engine bay.
A A Did any factory equipped pantera ever receive a 351Windsor
engine?
A A Didn't think so.
A A I have never seen an SI up close.A Do all of them have the
tubular rear
A A subframes like that? Unexpected. Looks more like an individual
A A modification.
A A Transaxle looks different too. Is it a different generation of
ZF?
A A Interesting!!!!!
A A Cullen
A A On Mon, Oct 12, 2015 at 2:04 PM, Richard Greenblum
A A <[1][2]Richard at richardgreenblum.com> wrote:
A A A AA A I just stuck a few pictures on the scanner of the
"last
A A A Pantera" so you
A A A AA A can see what they're like (old an unprofessional).AA
I don't
A A A have that
A A A AA A many of just that car, so there are only a few more.
A A A AA A The distinguished and stylish fellow is Casarini and I
believe
A A A the
A A A AA A blonde woman's name was Claudia.AA I'm obviously the
bum in the
A A A jeans.
A A A AA A I didn't mean to embarrass US Pantera owners, but I
was
A A A deployed to the
A A A AA A NATO base in Aviano and none of us brought along a
sport
A A A coat...
A A A AA A Richard
A A A AA A Austin, TX
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