[DeTomaso] Techno question: a fine mess--update

[Asa Jay Laughton]

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Asa

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"Joseph F. Byrd, Jr." <byrdjf at embarqmail.com> wrote:

>Just tossing out thoughts...I had a thermostat that "chattered" once.
>
>If it does come back during the first drive, could you record and post as a
>.WAV?
>
>-----Original Message-----
>From: DeTomaso [mailto:detomaso-bounces at poca.com] On Behalf Of Charles
>Engles
>Sent: Sunday, October 11, 2015 9:50 AM
>To: 'Julian Kift'; 'De Tomaso List'
>Cc: MikeLDrew at aol.com
>Subject: Re: [DeTomaso] Techno question: a fine mess--update
>
>Dear Long Distance Mechanics,
>
> 
>
> 
>
>                   This morning the test drive without the AC belt is first.
>If the noise persists, then I while the engine is warm, which is when the
>noise most commonly occurs, then the alternator belt comes off.
>
> 
>
>                    I failed to mention that the mechanical and garden hose
>stethoscopes both reveal essentially silent water pump, alternator body, AC
>compressor and block.
>
> 
>
> 
>
>                                          Warmest regards,  Chuck Engles
>
> 
>
> 
>
> 
>
> 
>
>From: Julian Kift [mailto:julian_kift at hotmail.com]
>Sent: Saturday, October 10, 2015 8:36 PM
>To: Charles Engles; De Tomaso List
>Subject: RE: [DeTomaso] Techno question: a fine mess--update
>
> 
>
>Charles,
>
> 
>
>Have you systematically removed one belt at a time and run the engine, to
>narrow down the source?
>
> 
>
>Julian
>
>> From: cengles at cox.net
>> To: detomaso at poca.com
>> Date: Sat, 10 Oct 2015 20:30:23 -0500
>> Subject: Re: [DeTomaso] Techno question: a fine mess--update
>> 
>> Dear Forum,
>> 
>> 
>> It is still a fine mess. The gremlins are well entrenched. At this 
>> point, I have:
>> 
>> 1) ascertained that the balancer isn't hitting the block or pan
>> 
>> 2) been unable to localize precisely the noise source despite the
>mechanic's
>> stethoscope or the garden hose stethoscope (it actually works a little 
>> better in this instance, but still not a success). It is coming from 
>> the front of the engine-belt area.
>> 
>> 3) replaced the alternator: no change and now the ammeter needle 
>> bounces
>> 
>> 4) ascertained that I do have an electronic voltage regulator from 
>> Motorcraft
>> 
>> 5) replaced both belts: no change other than a slight decrease in 
>> loudness and slightly different quality to the noise
>> 
>> 6) replaced the idler pulley: no change. Sigh. The old pulley does 
>> feel like the bearing is starting to go out compared to the smoothness 
>> of the replacement, but still no noise silencing with the change.
>> 
>> 
>> I am perturbed. I have removed the new AC belt and I will test again 
>> tomorrow to see if I have finally localized the noise maker. I am 
>> thinking about trying some of the belt treatments for squeaking since 
>> I
>have
>> replaced *everything* at this point.
>> 
>> 
>> With apologies to Mr. Friedman's famous quote: " Sadder, older, wiser, 
>> I go now, seeking through faith and reason combined the answer to this 
>> baffling pageant which is the Pantera and the small by play, which is 
>> my amateur wrenching."
>> 
>> 
>> Philosophically yours, Chuck Engles
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> 
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   There's a good idea.  Use your smartphone to make a short recording.
   If its too big for the list, send it directly to those offering
   assistance.
   Asa
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   "Joseph F. Byrd, Jr." <byrdjf at embarqmail.com> wrote:
   Just tossing out thoughts...I had a thermostat that "chattered" once.
   If it does come back during the first drive, could you record and post
   as a
   .WAV?
   -----Original Message-----
   From: DeTomaso [mailto:detomaso-bounces at poca.com] On Behalf Of Charles
   Engles
   Sent: Sunday, October 11, 2015 9:50 AM
   To: 'Julian Kift'; 'De Tomaso List'
   Cc: MikeLDrew at aol.com
   Subject: Re: [DeTomaso] Techno question: a fine mess--update
   Dear Long Distance Mechanics,
                      This morning the test drive without the AC belt is
   first.
   If the noise persists, then I while the engine is warm, which is when
   the
   noise most commonly occurs, then the alternator belt comes off.
                       I failed to mention that the mechanical and garden
   hose
   stethoscopes both reveal essentially silent water pump, alternator
   body, AC
   compressor and block.
                                             Warmest regards,  Chuck
   Engles
   From: Julian Kift [mailto:julian_kift at hotmail.com]
   Sent: Saturday, October 10, 2015 8:36 PM
   To: Charles Engles; De Tomaso List
   Subject: RE: [DeTomaso] Techno question: a fine mess--update
   Charles,
   Have you systematically removed one belt at a time and run the engine,
   to
   narrow down the source?
   Julian
   > From: cengles at cox.net
   > To: detomaso at poca.com
   > Date: Sat, 10 Oct 2015 20:30:23 -0500
   > Subject: Re: [DeTomaso] Techno question: a fine mess--update
   >
   > Dear Forum,
   >
   >
   > It is still a fine mess. The gremlins are well entrenched. At this
   > point, I have:
   >
   > 1) ascertained that the balancer isn't hitting the block or pan
   >
   > 2) been unable to localize precisely the noise source despite the
   mechanic's
   > stethoscope or the garden hose stethoscope (it actually works a
   little
   > better in this instance, but still not a success). It is coming from
   > the front of the engine-belt area.
   >
   > 3) replaced the alternator: no change and now the ammeter needle
   > bounces
   >
   > 4) ascertained that I do have an electronic voltage regulator from
   > Motorcraft
   >
   > 5) replaced both belts: no change other than a slight decrease in
   > loudness and slightly different quality to the noise
   >
   > 6) replaced the idler pulley: no change. Sigh. The old pulley does
   > feel like the bearing is starting to go out compared to the
   smoothness
   > of the replacement, but still no noise silencing with the change.
   >
   >
   > I am perturbed. I have removed the new AC belt and I will test again
   > tomorrow to see if I have finally localized the noise maker. I am
   > thinking about trying some of the belt treatments for squeaking since
   > I
   have
   > replaced *everything* at this point.
   >
   >
   > With apologies to Mr. Friedman's famous quote: " Sadder, older,
   wiser,
   > I go now, seeking through faith and reason combined the answer to
   this
   > baffling pageant which is the Pantera and the small by play, which is
   > my amateur wrenching."
   >
   >
   > Philosophically yours, Chuck Engles
   >
   >
   >
   >
   >
   >
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