[DeTomaso] Brake lines
Sean Korb
spkorb at gmail.com
Sun Oct 4 18:40:47 EDT 2015
I take it all back. For someone that doesn't have a problem with plasma
cutting the front and back of a classic Mustang off and gluing a Supra
chassis back into the holes, I am the most chicken-****, stubborn and lazy
person I know.
It's AN -3 all the way, end to end. That's what Marino Performance sold me
a decade ago, they were the right parts and I never put them in until
today. It didn't occur to me that DeTomaso might use aircraft fittings for
the brakes. I thought it was for sure all metric but the adapters are in
place and the tools are SAE to get them together.
The only thing that I would consider any validation at all is the brake
hose I took off really was clogged. Even 125PSI shop air can't punch
through it, though the 1000s of PSI I shot to it with the master cylinder
couldn't either so...
Just trust the vendors. They've done it before and they share the info.
I'll celebrate later when the rain clears up.
sean
On Wed, Sep 30, 2015 at 10:39 AM, Sean Korb <spkorb at gmail.com> wrote:
> I think I may have figured out my confusion. The fittings shipped to me
> were all AN off the shelf fittings (looks like -2) which are very close in
> size to M10 1.0. Eyeballing it they look the same but in practice the fit
> is a little loose in the caliper... but... I've been cheating. I have an
> extra caliper but I wasn't using the adapter. So it's possible that the
> adapter is aircraft on one end and M10 on the other. I'll let you know the
> results when I get around to fiddling with it again :)
>
> On Sun, Sep 13, 2015 at 5:04 PM, R.J <willibillie at live.de> wrote:
>
>> Many Pantera owners don't see, that there is an adapter between the rear
>> brake line and the caliper. It looks like one piece, but it isn't. Readers
>> of this list might remember, that Roger Coates from Great Britan had the
>> same problem some weeks ago.
>> Roland
>>
>>
>> Am 13.09.2015 um 22:37 schrieb thomas:
>>
>>> I believe most European brake lines are M10x1 and I'm fairly confident
>>> that the Pantera use that.
>>>
>>> Thomas
>>>
>>> 13 sep 2015 kl. 22:25 skrev Sean Korb <spkorb at gmail.com>:
>>>>
>>>> Has anyone worked out what the threads are so I can buy some
>>>> adapters?A I also have a set of braided steel lines from Marino
>>>> Performance (the fronts fit just great and I've used them for years)
>>>> and I would like to replace my rear lines now. I also have an early
>>>> pushbutton car.
>>>> My right rear brake locks up when I press the pedal hard and releases
>>>> over time... or after I turn the bleeder screw and let the pressure
>>>> out.A The other brakes don't have that problem so I think replacing
>>>> both rear hoses is a good first step. I've had these on the shelf
>>>> for a
>>>> while now since I couldn't figure out how to get them onto the
>>>> calliper.
>>>> Cheers,
>>>> sean
>>>>
>>>> On Mon, Aug 17, 2015 at 3:31 PM, Julian Kift
>>>> <[1]julian_kift at hotmail.com> wrote:
>>>>
>>>> A A Roger,
>>>> A A I'm not sure why only the rears would be different, although
>>>> front and
>>>> A A rear lines can differ by design so as to not confuse them. I
>>>> could
>>>> A A understand if the brake line set was supplied in 3/16 SAE from
>>>> the US
>>>> A A for use with a brake upgrade kit whereas the stock Pantera
>>>> uses
>>>> a
>>>> A A 4.75mm dia. tubing and ISO bubble flares.
>>>> A A If you can work out what threads you have on the caliper and
>>>> the lines,
>>>> A A then adapters are readily available.
>>>> A A Julian
>>>> A A > From: [2]richard at hitecheng.on.ca
>>>> A A > To: [3]coatesr8 at aol.com; [4]detomaso at poca.com
>>>> A A > Date: Mon, 17 Aug 2015 15:06:27 -0400
>>>> A A > Subject: Re: [DeTomaso] Brake lines
>>>>
>>>> A A >
>>>> A A > You can have braided stainless steel hoses made up with any
>>>> ends
>>>> you
>>>> A A want.
>>>> A A >
>>>> A
>>>> A [5]
>>>> http://www.hoseandfittingsetc.com/product/hose/brake-hose-stainles
>>>> s-ste
>>>> A A el-braided
>>>> A A > Richard Turpin
>>>> A A >
>>>> A A > -----Original Message-----
>>>> A A > From: R M Services via DeTomaso
>>>> A A > Sent: Sunday, August 16, 2015 3:10 AM
>>>> A A > To: detomaso at poca com
>>>> A A > Subject: [DeTomaso] Brake lines
>>>> A A >
>>>> A A > Hi, can anyone help with a precadiment that I have. I
>>>> purchased
>>>> some
>>>> A A > aircraft spec brake lines from one of the vendors (cant
>>>> remember
>>>> A A who)for a
>>>> A A > push button car that I am restoring for a mate. The rear lines
>>>> have a
>>>> A A > different thread from the calipers. Has anyone else come
>>>> across
>>>> this
>>>> A A > problem, is there some sort of adapter available?
>>>> A A > Thanks
>>>> A A >
>>>> A A > Roger Coates UK.
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>>>> #1382
>>>> "The more you drive, the less intelligent you get" --Miller
>>>> "Computers are useless.A They can only give you answers." -P.
>>>> Picasso
>>>>
>>>> References
>>>>
>>>> 1. mailto:julian_kift at hotmail.com
>>>> 2. mailto:richard at hitecheng.on.ca
>>>> 3. mailto:coatesr8 at aol.com
>>>> 4. mailto:detomaso at poca.com
>>>> 5.
>>>> http://www.hoseandfittingsetc.com/product/hose/brake-hose-stainless-ste
>>>> 6. mailto:DeTomaso at poca.com
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> "The more you drive, the less intelligent you get" --Miller
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>
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"The more you drive, the less intelligent you get" --Miller
"Computers are useless. They can only give you answers." -P. Picasso
-------------- next part --------------
I take it all back.A For someone that doesn't have a problem with
plasma cutting the front and back of a classic Mustang off and gluing a
Supra chassis back into the holes, I am the most chicken-****, stubborn
and lazy person I know.
It's AN -3 all the way, end to end.A That's what Marino Performance
sold me a decade ago, they were the right parts and I never put them in
until today.A It didn't occur to me that DeTomaso might use aircraft
fittings for the brakes.A I thought it was for sure all metric but the
adapters are in place and the tools are SAE to get them together.
The only thing that I would consider any validation at all is the brake
hose I took off really was clogged.A Even 125PSI shop air can't punch
through it, though the 1000s of PSI I shot to it with the master
cylinder couldn't either so...
Just trust the vendors.A They've done it before and they share the
info.A I'll celebrate later when the rain clears up.
sean
On Wed, Sep 30, 2015 at 10:39 AM, Sean Korb <[1]spkorb at gmail.com>
wrote:
I think I may have figured out my confusion.A The fittings shipped to
me were all AN off the shelf fittings (looks like -2) which are very
close in size to M10 1.0.A Eyeballing it they look the same but in
practice the fit is a little loose in the caliper... but... I've been
cheating.A I have an extra caliper but I wasn't using the adapter.A
So it's possible that the adapter is aircraft on one end and M10 on the
other.A I'll let you know the results when I get around to fiddling
with it again :)
On Sun, Sep 13, 2015 at 5:04 PM, R.J <[2]willibillie at live.de> wrote:
Many Pantera owners don't see, that there is an adapter between the
rear brake line and the caliper. It looks like one piece, but it
isn't. Readers of this list might remember, that Roger Coates from
Great Britan had the same problem some weeks ago.
Roland
Am 13.09.2015 um 22:37 schrieb thomas:
I believe most European brake lines are M10x1 and I'm fairly
confident that the Pantera use that.
Thomas
13 sep 2015 kl. 22:25 skrev Sean Korb <[3]spkorb at gmail.com>:
A A Has anyone worked out what the threads are so I can buy some
A A adapters?AA I also have a set of braided steel lines from
Marino
A A Performance (the fronts fit just great and I've used them for
years)
A A and I would like to replace my rear lines now. I also have an
early
A A pushbutton car.
A A My right rear brake locks up when I press the pedal hard and
releases
A A over time... or after I turn the bleeder screw and let the
pressure
A A out.AA The other brakes don't have that problem so I think
replacing
A A both rear hoses is a good first step. I've had these on the
shelf for a
A A while now since I couldn't figure out how to get them onto the
A A calliper.
A A Cheers,
A A sean
A A On Mon, Aug 17, 2015 at 3:31 PM, Julian Kift
A A <[1][4]julian_kift at hotmail.com> wrote:
A A A AA A Roger,
A A A AA A I'm not sure why only the rears would be different,
although
A A A front and
A A A AA A rear lines can differ by design so as to not confuse
them. I
A A A could
A A A AA A understand if the brake line set was supplied in 3/16
SAE from
A A A the US
A A A AA A for use with a brake upgrade kit whereas the stock
Pantera uses
A A A a
A A A AA A 4.75mm dia. tubing and ISO bubble flares.
A A A AA A If you can work out what threads you have on the
caliper and
A A A the lines,
A A A AA A then adapters are readily available.
A A A AA A Julian
A A A AA A > From: [2][5]richard at hitecheng.on.ca
A A A AA A > To: [3][6]coatesr8 at aol.com; [4][7]detomaso at poca.com
A A A AA A > Date: Mon, 17 Aug 2015 15:06:27 -0400
A A A AA A > Subject: Re: [DeTomaso] Brake lines
A A AA A >
A A AA A > You can have braided stainless steel hoses made up with
any ends
A A you
A A AA A want.
A A AA A >
A A A
A A A
[5][8]http://www.hoseandfittingsetc.com/product/hose/brake-hose-stai
nles
A A s-ste
A A AA A el-braided
A A AA A > Richard Turpin
A A AA A >
A A AA A > -----Original Message-----
A A AA A > From: R M Services via DeTomaso
A A AA A > Sent: Sunday, August 16, 2015 3:10 AM
A A AA A > To: detomaso at poca com
A A AA A > Subject: [DeTomaso] Brake lines
A A AA A >
A A AA A > Hi, can anyone help with a precadiment that I have. I
purchased
A A some
A A AA A > aircraft spec brake lines from one of the vendors (cant
remember
A A AA A who)for a
A A AA A > push button car that I am restoring for a mate. The
rear lines
A A have a
A A AA A > different thread from the calipers. Has anyone else
come across
A A this
A A AA A > problem, is there some sort of adapter available?
A A AA A > Thanks
A A AA A >
A A AA A > Roger Coates UK.
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References
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"Computers are useless.A They can only give you answers." -P. Picasso
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'65,'68 Mustangs,'68 Cougar,'78 R100/7,'60 Metro,'59 A35,'71 Pantera
#1382
"The more you drive, the less intelligent you get" --Miller
"Computers are useless.A They can only give you answers." -P. Picasso
References
1. mailto:spkorb at gmail.com
2. mailto:willibillie at live.de
3. mailto:spkorb at gmail.com
4. mailto:julian_kift at hotmail.com
5. mailto:richard at hitecheng.on.ca
6. mailto:coatesr8 at aol.com
7. mailto:detomaso at poca.com
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19. mailto:coatesr8 at aol.com
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