[DeTomaso] Electronic Delivery of newsletters / Profiles

Jeff Detrich jjdetrich at gmail.com
Sat Nov 7 17:32:36 EST 2015


Thanks, Ed.

On Sat, Nov 7, 2015 at 3:17 PM, Ed Mendez <edducati at mac.com> wrote:

> Some of the articles did not make it because the were too large for the
> email list. I would suggest putting them on Dropbox with a link to them,
> that would be better. Or have Gerry Romack put them on POCA.com and share
> that link.
>
> Only a suggestion. :-)
>
> Ed
>
> Sent from my iPhone 6 Plus
>
> > On 8/11/2015, at 06:53, Jeff Detrich <jjdetrich at gmail.com> wrote:
> >
> >   I can't tell if the 00 Tech Archives parts I and 2 (website specs for
> >   Newsleter Tech Articles) ever made it thru the editor. If not, someone
> >   pls let me know and I'll re-post
> >   Jeff
> >
> >   On Fri, Nov 6, 2015 at 11:09 PM, Jeff Detrich <[1]jjdetrich at gmail.com>
> >   wrote:
> >
> >   Specs for Tech Arts Cont 3 (last ones)
> >
> >   On Fri, Nov 6, 2015 at 11:06 PM, Jeff Detrich <[2]jjdetrich at gmail.com>
> >   wrote:
> >
> >   Specs for Tech Arts Continued
> >
> >   On Fri, Nov 6, 2015 at 10:59 PM, Jeff Detrich <[3]jjdetrich at gmail.com>
> >   wrote:
> >
> >   These are great comments and remember, we're talking about the
> >   Newsletter, not Profiles. An electronic version of the Newsletter was
> >   planned to be included in a new but failed website development project
> >   that your Board of Directors somehow screwed up again this year.
> >   (Another reason they don't want you to know what goes on at Board
> >   meetings! I would suggest that the Board publish the minutes for every
> >   meeting and all other actions taken so members really know what's going
> >   on; but ,hey, you already know my position on the Board's
> >   effectiveness.) The important part of the electronic version is that
> >   the graphics are so much better, pictures and diagrams would be in
> >   color, more content could be included, etc. etc.A
> >   Under the web site specs,A Members would have an option of receiving a
> >   hard copy version, no questions asked,A but the copy would be the crude
> >   black and white version sent out now. Paying extra for it would be a
> >   good option since it's expensive; POCA spends about $25,000 per year on
> >   the Newsletter That's about 50+% of your net dues after chapter
> >   rebates.A
> >   The second reason and more important reason to do it from the website
> >   was Dick's 2nd point; All the institutional knowledge from all the old
> >   copies of the Newsletter could be maintained on-line as well. The key
> >   to this feature is the indexing, not a google search but a true
> >   metadata index of the reason for the article, key words, parts used,
> >   even the effectiveness of the suggested changes. It could also include
> >   user grading of the content. (Like Yelp!) Now that would truly be a
> >   major new source of value to the DeTomaso Community, something that
> >   non-members might find appealing enough to join POCA.A
> >   It would, however, require that some qualified people would have to
> >   review the articles and index the contents. Once all the key words were
> >   indexed, Members could query the keyword database and it would return
> >   all the qualified articles. Or Members could just browse old versions.
> >   We've actually had the old Newsletters in digital form for some time
> >   now but your Board just can't seem to understand how to actually build
> >   a website and disregards counsel from those that do. Too bad, I've gone
> >   thru the old Newsletters and they are really interesting. It's one of
> >   the most valuable assets that the club has. A
> >   And we could do the same thing with archiving old versions of Profiles
> >   Magazine. I wouldn't suggest receiving Profiles electronically but,
> >   once again, there is an incredible amount of historical and useful
> >   information that could be made available in the old versions.
> >   Interesting enough, we could also index and archive all the old Pantera
> >   information that Dick has collected over the years. In fact, the index
> >   could even direct your to non-POCA sites like the Registry and Pantera
> >   Place. Even the historical emails from the POCA email forum rather than
> >   the crude google search used currently. Now we add real value to being
> >   a member!
> >   Since the Board can't seem to get a website going, it was suggested
> >   that we deliver the Newsletter by email. Not as optimal but it still
> >   provides a better copy A and it saves the club a ton of money, money
> >   that could be used to reduce your dues. It's better than nothing and it
> >   gets you the better quality. Once again, you could opt out and get your
> >   beloved hard copies if you wanted to do so.
> >   Attached in some following emails (I can only send 1500 mbs at a time)
> >   are some of the proposed pages for the web site regarding the Tech
> >   Articles from the Newsletters. These were working copies of the specs
> >   but they do give you an idea of what could and should be done.A
> >
> >   On Fri, Nov 6, 2015 at 3:11 PM, Dick Koch <[4]arkoch at earthlink.net>
> >   wrote:
> >
> >     Judy, I really don't understand the problem with providing the
> >     newsletters electronically.
> >     POCA doesn't need to send anything to anybody.A  The publication
> >     should be made available on the POCA website, with member only
> >     access if limited access is desired.A  If a member wanted to have a
> >     printed copy, then they could do so.A  If a member didn't have
> >     access to the internet (I find it hard to believe that anyone that
> >     has a Pantera or an interest in one and is a member doesn't have
> >     access to the internet) and wanted a hard copy then they would have
> >     to pay for that delivery service.A  Most all organizations, for
> >     profit or otherwise, are going this route, both to reduce cost and
> >     provide more timely service to its customers.
> >     An archive of all the Newsletters could be maintained, with an index
> >     by year and topic, with free access granted to those that were
> >     members at the time of the newsletters, Plus for new members that
> >     wanted to have access to old newsletters and certain topics, POCA
> >     could charge a fee for that access.
> >     POCA reduces substantially the cost to mail the newsletters,
> >     provides an additional asset to produce income, drives members to
> >     the POCA website, provides a way to reduce the membership fees, and
> >     generates a great sales incentive for members to sign up.
> >     Dick Koch - Atlanta
> >     _______________________________________________
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> >     etc.) use the links above.
> >
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> >
> >   1. mailto:jjdetrich at gmail.com
> >   2. mailto:jjdetrich at gmail.com
> >   3. mailto:jjdetrich at gmail.com
> >   4. mailto:arkoch at earthlink.net
> >   5. mailto:DeTomaso at poca.com
> >   6. http://poca.com/mailman/listinfo/detomaso_poca.com
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   Thanks, Ed.

   On Sat, Nov 7, 2015 at 3:17 PM, Ed Mendez <[1]edducati at mac.com> wrote:

     Some of the articles did not make it because the were too large for
     the email list. I would suggest putting them on Dropbox with a link
     to them, that would be better. Or have Gerry Romack put them on
     POCA.com and share that link.
     Only a suggestion. :-)
     Ed
     Sent from my iPhone 6 Plus
     > On 8/11/2015, at 06:53, Jeff Detrich <[2]jjdetrich at gmail.com>
     wrote:
     >
     >A  A I can't tell if the 00 Tech Archives parts I and 2 (website
     specs for
     >A  A Newsleter Tech Articles) ever made it thru the editor. If not,
     someone
     >A  A pls let me know and I'll re-post
     >A  A Jeff
     >
     >A  A On Fri, Nov 6, 2015 at 11:09 PM, Jeff Detrich
     <[1][3]jjdetrich at gmail.com>
     >A  A wrote:
     >
     >A  A Specs for Tech Arts Cont 3 (last ones)
     >
     >A  A On Fri, Nov 6, 2015 at 11:06 PM, Jeff Detrich
     <[2][4]jjdetrich at gmail.com>
     >A  A wrote:
     >
     >A  A Specs for Tech Arts Continued
     >
     >A  A On Fri, Nov 6, 2015 at 10:59 PM, Jeff Detrich
     <[3][5]jjdetrich at gmail.com>
     >A  A wrote:
     >
     >A  A These are great comments and remember, we're talking about the
     >A  A Newsletter, not Profiles. An electronic version of the
     Newsletter was
     >A  A planned to be included in a new but failed website development
     project
     >A  A that your Board of Directors somehow screwed up again this
     year.
     >A  A (Another reason they don't want you to know what goes on at
     Board
     >A  A meetings! I would suggest that the Board publish the minutes
     for every
     >A  A meeting and all other actions taken so members really know
     what's going
     >A  A on; but ,hey, you already know my position on the Board's
     >A  A effectiveness.) The important part of the electronic version
     is that
     >A  A the graphics are so much better, pictures and diagrams would
     be in
     >A  A color, more content could be included, etc. etc.A
     >A  A Under the web site specs,A Members would have an option of
     receiving a
     >A  A hard copy version, no questions asked,A but the copy would be
     the crude
     >A  A black and white version sent out now. Paying extra for it
     would be a
     >A  A good option since it's expensive; POCA spends about $25,000
     per year on
     >A  A the Newsletter That's about 50+% of your net dues after
     chapter
     >A  A rebates.A
     >A  A The second reason and more important reason to do it from the
     website
     >A  A was Dick's 2nd point; All the institutional knowledge from all
     the old
     >A  A copies of the Newsletter could be maintained on-line as well.
     The key
     >A  A to this feature is the indexing, not a google search but a
     true
     >A  A metadata index of the reason for the article, key words, parts
     used,
     >A  A even the effectiveness of the suggested changes. It could also
     include
     >A  A user grading of the content. (Like Yelp!) Now that would truly
     be a
     >A  A major new source of value to the DeTomaso Community, something
     that
     >A  A non-members might find appealing enough to join POCA.A
     >A  A It would, however, require that some qualified people would
     have to
     >A  A review the articles and index the contents. Once all the key
     words were
     >A  A indexed, Members could query the keyword database and it would
     return
     >A  A all the qualified articles. Or Members could just browse old
     versions.
     >A  A We've actually had the old Newsletters in digital form for
     some time
     >A  A now but your Board just can't seem to understand how to
     actually build
     >A  A a website and disregards counsel from those that do. Too bad,
     I've gone
     >A  A thru the old Newsletters and they are really interesting. It's
     one of
     >A  A the most valuable assets that the club has. A
     >A  A And we could do the same thing with archiving old versions of
     Profiles
     >A  A Magazine. I wouldn't suggest receiving Profiles electronically
     but,
     >A  A once again, there is an incredible amount of historical and
     useful
     >A  A information that could be made available in the old versions.
     >A  A Interesting enough, we could also index and archive all the
     old Pantera
     >A  A information that Dick has collected over the years. In fact,
     the index
     >A  A could even direct your to non-POCA sites like the Registry and
     Pantera
     >A  A Place. Even the historical emails from the POCA email forum
     rather than
     >A  A the crude google search used currently. Now we add real value
     to being
     >A  A a member!
     >A  A Since the Board can't seem to get a website going, it was
     suggested
     >A  A that we deliver the Newsletter by email. Not as optimal but it
     still
     >A  A provides a better copy A and it saves the club a ton of money,
     money
     >A  A that could be used to reduce your dues. It's better than
     nothing and it
     >A  A gets you the better quality. Once again, you could opt out and
     get your
     >A  A beloved hard copies if you wanted to do so.
     >A  A Attached in some following emails (I can only send 1500 mbs at
     a time)
     >A  A are some of the proposed pages for the web site regarding the
     Tech
     >A  A Articles from the Newsletters. These were working copies of
     the specs
     >A  A but they do give you an idea of what could and should be
     done.A
     >
     >A  A On Fri, Nov 6, 2015 at 3:11 PM, Dick Koch
     <[4][6]arkoch at earthlink.net>
     >A  A wrote:
     >
     >A  A  A Judy, I really don't understand the problem with providing
     the
     >A  A  A newsletters electronically.
     >A  A  A POCA doesn't need to send anything to anybody.AA  The
     publication
     >A  A  A should be made available on the POCA website, with member
     only
     >A  A  A access if limited access is desired.AA  If a member wanted
     to have a
     >A  A  A printed copy, then they could do so.AA  If a member didn't
     have
     >A  A  A access to the internet (I find it hard to believe that
     anyone that
     >A  A  A has a Pantera or an interest in one and is a member doesn't
     have
     >A  A  A access to the internet) and wanted a hard copy then they
     would have
     >A  A  A to pay for that delivery service.AA  Most all
     organizations, for
     >A  A  A profit or otherwise, are going this route, both to reduce
     cost and
     >A  A  A provide more timely service to its customers.
     >A  A  A An archive of all the Newsletters could be maintained, with
     an index
     >A  A  A by year and topic, with free access granted to those that
     were
     >A  A  A members at the time of the newsletters, Plus for new
     members that
     >A  A  A wanted to have access to old newsletters and certain
     topics, POCA
     >A  A  A could charge a fee for that access.
     >A  A  A POCA reduces substantially the cost to mail the
     newsletters,
     >A  A  A provides an additional asset to produce income, drives
     members to
     >A  A  A the POCA website, provides a way to reduce the membership
     fees, and
     >A  A  A generates a great sales incentive for members to sign up.
     >A  A  A Dick Koch - Atlanta
     >A  A  A _______________________________________________
     >A  A  A Detomaso Forum Managed by POCA
     >A  A  A Posted emails must not exceed 1.5 Megabytes
     >A  A  A DeTomaso mailing list
     >A  A  A [5][7]DeTomaso at poca.com
     >A  A  A [6][8]http://poca.com/mailman/listinfo/detomaso_poca.com
     >A  A  A To manage your subscription (change email address,
     unsubscribe,
     >A  A  A etc.) use the links above.
     >
     > References
     >
     >A  A 1. mailto:[9]jjdetrich at gmail.com
     >A  A 2. mailto:[10]jjdetrich at gmail.com
     >A  A 3. mailto:[11]jjdetrich at gmail.com
     >A  A 4. mailto:[12]arkoch at earthlink.net
     >A  A 5. mailto:[13]DeTomaso at poca.com
     >A  A 6. [14]http://poca.com/mailman/listinfo/detomaso_poca.com

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