[DeTomaso] Electronic Delivery of newsletters / Profiles
Jeff Detrich
jjdetrich at gmail.com
Sat Nov 7 17:32:36 EST 2015
Thanks, Ed.
On Sat, Nov 7, 2015 at 3:17 PM, Ed Mendez <edducati at mac.com> wrote:
> Some of the articles did not make it because the were too large for the
> email list. I would suggest putting them on Dropbox with a link to them,
> that would be better. Or have Gerry Romack put them on POCA.com and share
> that link.
>
> Only a suggestion. :-)
>
> Ed
>
> Sent from my iPhone 6 Plus
>
> > On 8/11/2015, at 06:53, Jeff Detrich <jjdetrich at gmail.com> wrote:
> >
> > I can't tell if the 00 Tech Archives parts I and 2 (website specs for
> > Newsleter Tech Articles) ever made it thru the editor. If not, someone
> > pls let me know and I'll re-post
> > Jeff
> >
> > On Fri, Nov 6, 2015 at 11:09 PM, Jeff Detrich <[1]jjdetrich at gmail.com>
> > wrote:
> >
> > Specs for Tech Arts Cont 3 (last ones)
> >
> > On Fri, Nov 6, 2015 at 11:06 PM, Jeff Detrich <[2]jjdetrich at gmail.com>
> > wrote:
> >
> > Specs for Tech Arts Continued
> >
> > On Fri, Nov 6, 2015 at 10:59 PM, Jeff Detrich <[3]jjdetrich at gmail.com>
> > wrote:
> >
> > These are great comments and remember, we're talking about the
> > Newsletter, not Profiles. An electronic version of the Newsletter was
> > planned to be included in a new but failed website development project
> > that your Board of Directors somehow screwed up again this year.
> > (Another reason they don't want you to know what goes on at Board
> > meetings! I would suggest that the Board publish the minutes for every
> > meeting and all other actions taken so members really know what's going
> > on; but ,hey, you already know my position on the Board's
> > effectiveness.) The important part of the electronic version is that
> > the graphics are so much better, pictures and diagrams would be in
> > color, more content could be included, etc. etc.A
> > Under the web site specs,A Members would have an option of receiving a
> > hard copy version, no questions asked,A but the copy would be the crude
> > black and white version sent out now. Paying extra for it would be a
> > good option since it's expensive; POCA spends about $25,000 per year on
> > the Newsletter That's about 50+% of your net dues after chapter
> > rebates.A
> > The second reason and more important reason to do it from the website
> > was Dick's 2nd point; All the institutional knowledge from all the old
> > copies of the Newsletter could be maintained on-line as well. The key
> > to this feature is the indexing, not a google search but a true
> > metadata index of the reason for the article, key words, parts used,
> > even the effectiveness of the suggested changes. It could also include
> > user grading of the content. (Like Yelp!) Now that would truly be a
> > major new source of value to the DeTomaso Community, something that
> > non-members might find appealing enough to join POCA.A
> > It would, however, require that some qualified people would have to
> > review the articles and index the contents. Once all the key words were
> > indexed, Members could query the keyword database and it would return
> > all the qualified articles. Or Members could just browse old versions.
> > We've actually had the old Newsletters in digital form for some time
> > now but your Board just can't seem to understand how to actually build
> > a website and disregards counsel from those that do. Too bad, I've gone
> > thru the old Newsletters and they are really interesting. It's one of
> > the most valuable assets that the club has. A
> > And we could do the same thing with archiving old versions of Profiles
> > Magazine. I wouldn't suggest receiving Profiles electronically but,
> > once again, there is an incredible amount of historical and useful
> > information that could be made available in the old versions.
> > Interesting enough, we could also index and archive all the old Pantera
> > information that Dick has collected over the years. In fact, the index
> > could even direct your to non-POCA sites like the Registry and Pantera
> > Place. Even the historical emails from the POCA email forum rather than
> > the crude google search used currently. Now we add real value to being
> > a member!
> > Since the Board can't seem to get a website going, it was suggested
> > that we deliver the Newsletter by email. Not as optimal but it still
> > provides a better copy A and it saves the club a ton of money, money
> > that could be used to reduce your dues. It's better than nothing and it
> > gets you the better quality. Once again, you could opt out and get your
> > beloved hard copies if you wanted to do so.
> > Attached in some following emails (I can only send 1500 mbs at a time)
> > are some of the proposed pages for the web site regarding the Tech
> > Articles from the Newsletters. These were working copies of the specs
> > but they do give you an idea of what could and should be done.A
> >
> > On Fri, Nov 6, 2015 at 3:11 PM, Dick Koch <[4]arkoch at earthlink.net>
> > wrote:
> >
> > Judy, I really don't understand the problem with providing the
> > newsletters electronically.
> > POCA doesn't need to send anything to anybody.A The publication
> > should be made available on the POCA website, with member only
> > access if limited access is desired.A If a member wanted to have a
> > printed copy, then they could do so.A If a member didn't have
> > access to the internet (I find it hard to believe that anyone that
> > has a Pantera or an interest in one and is a member doesn't have
> > access to the internet) and wanted a hard copy then they would have
> > to pay for that delivery service.A Most all organizations, for
> > profit or otherwise, are going this route, both to reduce cost and
> > provide more timely service to its customers.
> > An archive of all the Newsletters could be maintained, with an index
> > by year and topic, with free access granted to those that were
> > members at the time of the newsletters, Plus for new members that
> > wanted to have access to old newsletters and certain topics, POCA
> > could charge a fee for that access.
> > POCA reduces substantially the cost to mail the newsletters,
> > provides an additional asset to produce income, drives members to
> > the POCA website, provides a way to reduce the membership fees, and
> > generates a great sales incentive for members to sign up.
> > Dick Koch - Atlanta
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> > etc.) use the links above.
> >
> > References
> >
> > 1. mailto:jjdetrich at gmail.com
> > 2. mailto:jjdetrich at gmail.com
> > 3. mailto:jjdetrich at gmail.com
> > 4. mailto:arkoch at earthlink.net
> > 5. mailto:DeTomaso at poca.com
> > 6. http://poca.com/mailman/listinfo/detomaso_poca.com
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> >
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Thanks, Ed.
On Sat, Nov 7, 2015 at 3:17 PM, Ed Mendez <[1]edducati at mac.com> wrote:
Some of the articles did not make it because the were too large for
the email list. I would suggest putting them on Dropbox with a link
to them, that would be better. Or have Gerry Romack put them on
POCA.com and share that link.
Only a suggestion. :-)
Ed
Sent from my iPhone 6 Plus
> On 8/11/2015, at 06:53, Jeff Detrich <[2]jjdetrich at gmail.com>
wrote:
>
>A A I can't tell if the 00 Tech Archives parts I and 2 (website
specs for
>A A Newsleter Tech Articles) ever made it thru the editor. If not,
someone
>A A pls let me know and I'll re-post
>A A Jeff
>
>A A On Fri, Nov 6, 2015 at 11:09 PM, Jeff Detrich
<[1][3]jjdetrich at gmail.com>
>A A wrote:
>
>A A Specs for Tech Arts Cont 3 (last ones)
>
>A A On Fri, Nov 6, 2015 at 11:06 PM, Jeff Detrich
<[2][4]jjdetrich at gmail.com>
>A A wrote:
>
>A A Specs for Tech Arts Continued
>
>A A On Fri, Nov 6, 2015 at 10:59 PM, Jeff Detrich
<[3][5]jjdetrich at gmail.com>
>A A wrote:
>
>A A These are great comments and remember, we're talking about the
>A A Newsletter, not Profiles. An electronic version of the
Newsletter was
>A A planned to be included in a new but failed website development
project
>A A that your Board of Directors somehow screwed up again this
year.
>A A (Another reason they don't want you to know what goes on at
Board
>A A meetings! I would suggest that the Board publish the minutes
for every
>A A meeting and all other actions taken so members really know
what's going
>A A on; but ,hey, you already know my position on the Board's
>A A effectiveness.) The important part of the electronic version
is that
>A A the graphics are so much better, pictures and diagrams would
be in
>A A color, more content could be included, etc. etc.A
>A A Under the web site specs,A Members would have an option of
receiving a
>A A hard copy version, no questions asked,A but the copy would be
the crude
>A A black and white version sent out now. Paying extra for it
would be a
>A A good option since it's expensive; POCA spends about $25,000
per year on
>A A the Newsletter That's about 50+% of your net dues after
chapter
>A A rebates.A
>A A The second reason and more important reason to do it from the
website
>A A was Dick's 2nd point; All the institutional knowledge from all
the old
>A A copies of the Newsletter could be maintained on-line as well.
The key
>A A to this feature is the indexing, not a google search but a
true
>A A metadata index of the reason for the article, key words, parts
used,
>A A even the effectiveness of the suggested changes. It could also
include
>A A user grading of the content. (Like Yelp!) Now that would truly
be a
>A A major new source of value to the DeTomaso Community, something
that
>A A non-members might find appealing enough to join POCA.A
>A A It would, however, require that some qualified people would
have to
>A A review the articles and index the contents. Once all the key
words were
>A A indexed, Members could query the keyword database and it would
return
>A A all the qualified articles. Or Members could just browse old
versions.
>A A We've actually had the old Newsletters in digital form for
some time
>A A now but your Board just can't seem to understand how to
actually build
>A A a website and disregards counsel from those that do. Too bad,
I've gone
>A A thru the old Newsletters and they are really interesting. It's
one of
>A A the most valuable assets that the club has. A
>A A And we could do the same thing with archiving old versions of
Profiles
>A A Magazine. I wouldn't suggest receiving Profiles electronically
but,
>A A once again, there is an incredible amount of historical and
useful
>A A information that could be made available in the old versions.
>A A Interesting enough, we could also index and archive all the
old Pantera
>A A information that Dick has collected over the years. In fact,
the index
>A A could even direct your to non-POCA sites like the Registry and
Pantera
>A A Place. Even the historical emails from the POCA email forum
rather than
>A A the crude google search used currently. Now we add real value
to being
>A A a member!
>A A Since the Board can't seem to get a website going, it was
suggested
>A A that we deliver the Newsletter by email. Not as optimal but it
still
>A A provides a better copy A and it saves the club a ton of money,
money
>A A that could be used to reduce your dues. It's better than
nothing and it
>A A gets you the better quality. Once again, you could opt out and
get your
>A A beloved hard copies if you wanted to do so.
>A A Attached in some following emails (I can only send 1500 mbs at
a time)
>A A are some of the proposed pages for the web site regarding the
Tech
>A A Articles from the Newsletters. These were working copies of
the specs
>A A but they do give you an idea of what could and should be
done.A
>
>A A On Fri, Nov 6, 2015 at 3:11 PM, Dick Koch
<[4][6]arkoch at earthlink.net>
>A A wrote:
>
>A A A Judy, I really don't understand the problem with providing
the
>A A A newsletters electronically.
>A A A POCA doesn't need to send anything to anybody.AA The
publication
>A A A should be made available on the POCA website, with member
only
>A A A access if limited access is desired.AA If a member wanted
to have a
>A A A printed copy, then they could do so.AA If a member didn't
have
>A A A access to the internet (I find it hard to believe that
anyone that
>A A A has a Pantera or an interest in one and is a member doesn't
have
>A A A access to the internet) and wanted a hard copy then they
would have
>A A A to pay for that delivery service.AA Most all
organizations, for
>A A A profit or otherwise, are going this route, both to reduce
cost and
>A A A provide more timely service to its customers.
>A A A An archive of all the Newsletters could be maintained, with
an index
>A A A by year and topic, with free access granted to those that
were
>A A A members at the time of the newsletters, Plus for new
members that
>A A A wanted to have access to old newsletters and certain
topics, POCA
>A A A could charge a fee for that access.
>A A A POCA reduces substantially the cost to mail the
newsletters,
>A A A provides an additional asset to produce income, drives
members to
>A A A the POCA website, provides a way to reduce the membership
fees, and
>A A A generates a great sales incentive for members to sign up.
>A A A Dick Koch - Atlanta
>A A A _______________________________________________
>A A A Detomaso Forum Managed by POCA
>A A A Posted emails must not exceed 1.5 Megabytes
>A A A DeTomaso mailing list
>A A A [5][7]DeTomaso at poca.com
>A A A [6][8]http://poca.com/mailman/listinfo/detomaso_poca.com
>A A A To manage your subscription (change email address,
unsubscribe,
>A A A etc.) use the links above.
>
> References
>
>A A 1. mailto:[9]jjdetrich at gmail.com
>A A 2. mailto:[10]jjdetrich at gmail.com
>A A 3. mailto:[11]jjdetrich at gmail.com
>A A 4. mailto:[12]arkoch at earthlink.net
>A A 5. mailto:[13]DeTomaso at poca.com
>A A 6. [14]http://poca.com/mailman/listinfo/detomaso_poca.com
> _______________________________________________
>
> Detomaso Forum Managed by POCA
> Posted emails must not exceed 1.5 Megabytes
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