[DeTomaso] Fuel injection system and brakes question

Michael Shortt michaelsavga at gmail.com
Tue Nov 3 15:15:05 EST 2015


If you really want the bomb in ignition, explore an Electromotive
distributorless system ( 4 coils with a crank trigger ).

Michael Shortt
On Nov 3, 2015 3:12 PM, "Stephen" <steve at snclocks.com> wrote:

> Ahhh - lope, as in the idle rpm varying, up and down.  Thank you for
> clearing that up.
>
> For what it is worth, I went with Trick Flow heads and inlet manifold -
> manifold is a bit high-rise to get longer runners and increase lower-end
> torque.
>
> Stephen Nelson
>
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: DeTomaso [mailto:detomaso-bounces at poca.com] On Behalf Of Charles
> McCall
> Sent: Tuesday, November 03, 2015 11:15 AM
> To: 'Konrad Szwab' <kszwab at gmail.com>; 'DeTomaso Mail List'
> <detomaso at poca.com>
> Subject: Re: [DeTomaso] Fuel injection system and brakes question
>
> ****From what I've read, there should be no difference in sound between a
> 4bbl fuel injection system and a 4bbl carb. The people who have commented
> that the lope was tamed have all installed IR injection systems. I have to
> wonder if a Weber would do the same? The conclusion that I took was that
> individual runner design reduces the lopinesss
>
> On Tue, Nov 3, 2015 at 11:19 AM, Stephen <steve at snclocks.com> wrote:
>
> > I switched over to MSD so I could get good cold-start and smooth idle.
> > OK, engine has a moderate cam, so as smooth as I could get.  I also
> > wanted the MSD computer to control the ignition timing.  Except for
> > the challenge of getting good guidance on which cam designation to use
> > in setting up the MSD (use street - mild and large are really bad) the
> > system performed as advertised.
> >
> > Not exactly sure how an MSD 4 bbl (as in 4 butterflies) would change
> > the sound of the engine.  Rather than get into a p'ing match, let's
> > just say I don't understand.
> >
> > Brakes - I went with Pantera Perf suppled Wildwood, and kept the
> > original rear brake calipers just for the e-brake service.  Given I
> > don't drive my car at 99.99%, or at 70% either, I find the system very
> > tractable and love the brakes.  Including the e-brake.
> >
> > Just my thought.  If you want to talk some, give me a call.
> >
> > Stephen Nelson
> > 360-210-7295
> >
> >
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: DeTomaso [mailto:detomaso-bounces at poca.com] On Behalf Of Konrad
> > Szwab
> > Sent: Tuesday, November 03, 2015 7:48 AM
> > To: DeTomaso Mail List <detomaso at poca.com>
> > Subject: [DeTomaso] Fuel injection system and brakes question
> >
> > Now that I have a bit of time to try to resurrect my poor '73 Pantera,
> > I would like to ask for recommendations/sources for the following:
> >
> > 1. Fuel injection system for a '73 Cleveland. Recommended model and
> > sources, pitfalls in installation. Is there a write up anywhere from
> > someone who did the conversion ?
> >
> > 2. Brake rebuild kit. Sources, pitfalls ?
> >
> > Thanks,
> >
> > Konrad
> >
> >
>
>
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   If you really want the bomb in ignition, explore an Electromotive
   distributorless system ( 4 coils with a crank trigger ).

   Michael Shortt

   On Nov 3, 2015 3:12 PM, "Stephen" <[1]steve at snclocks.com> wrote:

     Ahhh - lope, as in the idle rpm varying, up and down.A  Thank you
     for
     clearing that up.
     For what it is worth, I went with Trick Flow heads and inlet
     manifold -
     manifold is a bit high-rise to get longer runners and increase
     lower-end
     torque.
     Stephen Nelson
     -----Original Message-----
     From: DeTomaso [mailto:[2]detomaso-bounces at poca.com] On Behalf Of
     Charles
     McCall
     Sent: Tuesday, November 03, 2015 11:15 AM
     To: 'Konrad Szwab' <[3]kszwab at gmail.com>; 'DeTomaso Mail List'
     <[4]detomaso at poca.com>
     Subject: Re: [DeTomaso] Fuel injection system and brakes question
     ****From what I've read, there should be no difference in sound
     between a
     4bbl fuel injection system and a 4bbl carb. The people who have
     commented
     that the lope was tamed have all installed IR injection systems. I
     have to
     wonder if a Weber would do the same? The conclusion that I took was
     that
     individual runner design reduces the lopinesss
     On Tue, Nov 3, 2015 at 11:19 AM, Stephen <[5]steve at snclocks.com>
     wrote:
     > I switched over to MSD so I could get good cold-start and smooth
     idle.
     > OK, engine has a moderate cam, so as smooth as I could get.A  I
     also
     > wanted the MSD computer to control the ignition timing.A  Except
     for
     > the challenge of getting good guidance on which cam designation to
     use
     > in setting up the MSD (use street - mild and large are really bad)
     the
     > system performed as advertised.
     >
     > Not exactly sure how an MSD 4 bbl (as in 4 butterflies) would
     change
     > the sound of the engine.A  Rather than get into a p'ing match,
     let's
     > just say I don't understand.
     >
     > Brakes - I went with Pantera Perf suppled Wildwood, and kept the
     > original rear brake calipers just for the e-brake service.A  Given
     I
     > don't drive my car at 99.99%, or at 70% either, I find the system
     very
     > tractable and love the brakes.A  Including the e-brake.
     >
     > Just my thought.A  If you want to talk some, give me a call.
     >
     > Stephen Nelson
     > [6]360-210-7295
     >
     >
     > -----Original Message-----
     > From: DeTomaso [mailto:[7]detomaso-bounces at poca.com] On Behalf Of
     Konrad
     > Szwab
     > Sent: Tuesday, November 03, 2015 7:48 AM
     > To: DeTomaso Mail List <[8]detomaso at poca.com>
     > Subject: [DeTomaso] Fuel injection system and brakes question
     >
     > Now that I have a bit of time to try to resurrect my poor '73
     Pantera,
     > I would like to ask for recommendations/sources for the following:
     >
     > 1. Fuel injection system for a '73 Cleveland. Recommended model
     and
     > sources, pitfalls in installation. Is there a write up anywhere
     from
     > someone who did the conversion ?
     >
     > 2. Brake rebuild kit. Sources, pitfalls ?
     >
     > Thanks,
     >
     > Konrad
     >
     >
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