[DeTomaso] POCA ELECTION VOTING

Mon Nov 2 20:00:11 EST 2015

Asa Jay,

Thanks for the history.  Good stuff.  The email-list should ABSOLUTELY be left OPEN.  Why?  There is no
better way to show the world that the Pantera is well supported.  I know I had concerns about where to
find educated people to help if I needed it.  Not only did the existence of the list persuade me to buy my
Pantera, I have gotten excellent help from lots of smart people on this list.   To those people… Thank You!!

IMO Keep it open an Free!

Terry

"Sometimes I think the surest signs that intelligent life
  exists elsewhere in the universe is that none of it has tried
  to contact us!"

Terry W. Himes
JPL Jet Propulsion Laboratory
InSight Sequence Team Lead
Rosetta/MEX Sequence Team Lead
Phone: (818) 393-6261
Cell:     (818) 653-8213
Fax:     (818) 393-3147
thimes at jpl.nasa.gov<mailto:thimes at jpl.nasa.gov>
🇺🇸

From: DeTomaso <detomaso-bounces at poca.com<mailto:detomaso-bounces at poca.com>> on behalf of Asa Jay Laughton <asajay at asajay.com<mailto:asajay at asajay.com>>
Date: Monday, November 2, 2015 2:15 PM
To: Mikael <mikael_hass at mail.tele.dk<mailto:mikael_hass at mail.tele.dk>>
Cc: POCA <detomaso at poca.com<mailto:detomaso at poca.com>>
Subject: Re: [DeTomaso] POCA ELECTION VOTING

Hi Mikael,
This email list was started by Shane Ingate back in 1996 (or so)/and was open to all DeTomaso enthusiasts.  No membership required, no dues and ownership was not a prerequisite.  At the time, the email forum software was being hosted on a private server.  It had zero association with POCA other than some POCA members were part of the list.

The server hosting and ownership changed a few times before the latest transfer.  That latest transfer came about through an agreement with POCA that it could be hosted on the POCA server, but that the list itself remain open to anyone and everyone that wished to join and talk about DeTomaso automobiles AND that it never required membership in POCA.

It started as a non-POCA email list and it's supposed to remain that way.

Asa  Jay

Sent using Jedi Mind Tricks

Mikael <mikael_hass at mail.tele.dk<mailto:mikael_hass at mail.tele.dk>> wrote:

Sitting following this from across the pond is both entertaining and a bit puzzling. When I read the candidates statements, e.g. making the brand better known, I'm thinking why? The definition of a club is that members pay money and get benefits that nonmembers don't get. Like magazines, forum/mail list, discounts, events, help and advice. So dear candidates, what will you work on that benefits ME, a paying member? I get most of what I listed above, but I can't buy apparel since we've moved away from cheques decades ago, and am I right in understanding that several non-members use this mail list? If they don't pay, they should be locked out. Members only.

Membership value should be optimized, that's any club management's first priority IMHO

Happy voting

Sent from my BlackBerry 10 smartphone.
  Original Message
From: Mike Drew
Sent: mandag den 2. november 2015 19.14
To: Forest Goodhart
Cc: Julian Kift; POCA; De Tomaso List
Subject: Re: [DeTomaso] POCA ELECTION VOTING

Forest,

But did you get two of them, one for yourself and one for your associate? Or did your associate get one of her own? Or does the single survey afford the opportunity for both parties to vote on a single ballot?

I haven't been able to look at mine yet although I did receive it...just wondering what to expect.

Mike

Sent from my iPhone

On Nov 2, 2015, at 10:01, Forest Goodhart <forestg at att.net<mailto:forestg at att.net>> wrote:

Mine showed up in my spam folder. Check there.
__________________________________________________________________
From: Julian Kift <julian_kift at hotmail.com<mailto:julian_kift at hotmail.com>>
To: POCA <admin at poca.com<mailto:admin at poca.com>>; De Tomaso List <detomaso at poca.com<mailto:detomaso at poca.com>>
Sent: Monday, November 2, 2015 9:45 AM
Subject: Re: [DeTomaso] POCA ELECTION VOTING
Some members on list are reporting they have voted via a Survey Monkey
link they received which is pinned to their email address (thus cannot
be shared between voters).
Were the links mass mailed or being sent individually, I have received
nothing?
Thanks,
Julian
________________________________________
From: POCA <[1]admin at poca.com<mailto:admin at poca.com>>
Sent: Sunday, November 1, 2015 12:38 PM
Subject: POCA ELECTION VOTING
POCA Members: The expected start of the POCA Elections today was
flawed
due to a failure of the Ballot Bin website through which the Bylaws
Election
was conducted. The election will now be conducted using Survey Monkey.
You should receive an email from Survey Monkey in the next 24 hours to
electronically vote in the POCA Elections.
Chuck Engles, Election Committee"
If you need details about the Survey
Monkey
deal, then please contact Ed Mendez, who can answer them.
Warmest regards,
Chuck Engles
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   Asa Jay,
   Thanks for the history.  Good stuff.  The email-list should ABSOLUTELY
   be left OPEN.  Why?  There is no
   better way to show the world that the Pantera is well supported.  I
   know I had concerns about where to
   find educated people to help if I needed it.  Not only did the
   existence of the list persuade me to buy my
   Pantera, I have gotten excellent help from lots of smart people on this
   list.   To those people... Thank You!!
   IMO Keep it open an Free!
   Terry

   "Sometimes I think the surest signs that intelligent life

     exists elsewhere in the universe is that none of it has tried

     to contact us!"

   Terry W. Himes

   JPL Jet Propulsion Laboratory

   InSight Sequence Team Lead

   Rosetta/MEX Sequence Team Lead

   Phone: (818) 393-6261

   Cell:     (818) 653-8213

   Fax:     (818) 393-3147

   [1]thimes at jpl.nasa.gov

   From: DeTomaso <[2]detomaso-bounces at poca.com> on behalf of Asa Jay
   Laughton <[3]asajay at asajay.com>
   Date: Monday, November 2, 2015 2:15 PM
   To: Mikael <[4]mikael_hass at mail.tele.dk>
   Cc: POCA <[5]detomaso at poca.com>
   Subject: Re: [DeTomaso] POCA ELECTION VOTING

   Hi Mikael,
   This email list was started by Shane Ingate back in 1996 (or so)/and
   was open to all DeTomaso enthusiasts.  No membership required, no dues
   and ownership was not a prerequisite.  At the time, the email forum
   software was being hosted on a private server.  It had zero association
   with POCA other than some POCA members were part of the list.
   The server hosting and ownership changed a few times before the latest
   transfer.  That latest transfer came about through an agreement with
   POCA that it could be hosted on the POCA server, but that the list
   itself remain open to anyone and everyone that wished to join and talk
   about DeTomaso automobiles AND that it never required membership in
   POCA.
   It started as a non-POCA email list and it's supposed to remain that
   way.
   Asa  Jay
   Sent using Jedi Mind Tricks
   Mikael <[6]mikael_hass at mail.tele.dk> wrote:

   Sitting following this from across the pond is both entertaining and a
   bit puzzling. When I read the candidates statements, e.g. making the
   brand better known, I'm thinking why? The definition of a club is that
   members pay money and get benefits that nonmembers don't get. Like
   magazines, forum/mail list, discounts, events, help and advice. So dear
   candidates, what will you work on that benefits ME, a paying member? I
   get most of what I listed above, but I can't buy apparel since we've
   moved away from cheques decades ago, and am I right in understanding
   that several non-members use this mail list? If they don't pay, they
   should be locked out. Members only.

   Membership value should be optimized, that's any club management's
   first priority IMHO

   Happy voting

   Sent from my BlackBerry 10 smartphone.

     Original Message

   From: Mike Drew

   Sent: mandag den 2. november 2015 19.14

   To: Forest Goodhart

   Cc: Julian Kift; POCA; De Tomaso List

   Subject: Re: [DeTomaso] POCA ELECTION VOTING

   Forest,

   But did you get two of them, one for yourself and one for your
   associate? Or did your associate get one of her own? Or does the single
   survey afford the opportunity for both parties to vote on a single
   ballot?

   I haven't been able to look at mine yet although I did receive
   it...just wondering what to expect.

   Mike

   Sent from my iPhone

   On Nov 2, 2015, at 10:01, Forest Goodhart <[7]forestg at att.net> wrote:

   Mine showed up in my spam folder. Check there.

   __________________________________________________________________

   From: Julian Kift <[8]julian_kift at hotmail.com>

   To: POCA <[9]admin at poca.com>; De Tomaso List <[10]detomaso at poca.com>

   Sent: Monday, November 2, 2015 9:45 AM

   Subject: Re: [DeTomaso] POCA ELECTION VOTING

   Some members on list are reporting they have voted via a Survey Monkey

   link they received which is pinned to their email address (thus cannot

   be shared between voters).

   Were the links mass mailed or being sent individually, I have received

   nothing?

   Thanks,

   Julian

   ________________________________________

   From: POCA <[1][11]admin at poca.com>

   Sent: Sunday, November 1, 2015 12:38 PM

   Subject: POCA ELECTION VOTING

   POCA Members: The expected start of the POCA Elections today was

   flawed

   due to a failure of the Ballot Bin website through which the Bylaws

   Election

   was conducted. The election will now be conducted using Survey Monkey.

   You should receive an email from Survey Monkey in the next 24 hours to

   electronically vote in the POCA Elections.

   Chuck Engles, Election Committee"

   If you need details about the Survey

   Monkey

   deal, then please contact Ed Mendez, who can answer them.

   Warmest regards,

   Chuck Engles

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