[DeTomaso] Driving in the rain/Decklid opening modification

[Garth Rodericks]

I've thought about installing a belly pan under the engine to reduce the suction of dirt, dust, rocks, gravel, and water off the road and hopefully keep the rear decklid a bit cleaner. Not concerned with hot air from under the car helping to cool the engine that's a function handled by the radiator.  Now if it were an air cooled engine with cooling fins it would be a different story.
Just gotta get my car back on the road first...


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From: wawuzat via DeTomaso <detomaso at poca.com>
To: detomaso <detomaso at poca.com>
Sent: Sun, May 3, 2015 12:42 pm
Subject: [DeTomaso]  Driving in the rain/Decklid opening modification


Stephen wrote:
OK - now for the more intersting question.  Has  anyone ever
installed any
form of a partial window in the hole above the  engine?  Or a
simple piece 
of
glass or plexi to fill the hole?  I  am thinking plexiglass
contoured such
that it fits into a rubber gasket  around the opening but is
belled out at
the lower edge to allow air flow and  perhaps keep rain from
falling on the
back of the engine?  This would  have the added benefit of
perhaps making it
a bit harder for someone to reach  in and remove things from
the top of the
engine (dog-bone air cleaner for  instance) or the caps on the
coolant 
tanks.
Given that plexiglass is not all  that hard to contour this
would seem like 
a
possible improvement as long as  it did not overly restrict
airflow around
the engine.  Making the  assumption that airflow around the
engine is a good
thing.

Comments? 

Stephen,

Last year I had been
re-reading some of my old Pantera International  
magazines
from the 1970's. 
One of the articles in the magazine had to do with  
fitting a plexiglass cover
over the rear decklid opening, thereby sealing it  
off.  As I recall, whoever
came up with the idea was selling a "kit" to  
convert your Pantera as well.  I
had never seen or heard of such a thing  until I 
read the article.  Sounds to
me like everything old is new  again.  I will 
see if I can locate it and scan
it for the group.
 
By the way, the last time I was reminded of this
modification was when the  
new Kyosho Pantera 1/18 scale models came out last
year and all of them had 
this  very modification installed in the decklid
opening.  It works great 
on the  model so it must work great in real life
:o)
 
Jim
 
 

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   Years ago, there were a few Panteras with louvers just in the back
   window opening. They sort of looked like venetian blinds. The more
   popular kits had louvers filling the whole deck sugar-scoop area much
   like a Miura. Both probably changed the rear aero.

   -----Original Message-----
   From: wawuzat via DeTomaso <detomaso at poca.com>
   To: detomaso <detomaso at poca.com>
   Sent: Sun, May 3, 2015 12:42 pm
   Subject: [DeTomaso] Driving in the rain/Decklid opening modification
Stephen wrote:
OK - now for the more intersting question.  Has  anyone ever
installed any
form of a partial window in the hole above the  engine?  Or a
simple piece
of
glass or plexi to fill the hole?  I  am thinking plexiglass
contoured such
that it fits into a rubber gasket  around the opening but is
belled out at
the lower edge to allow air flow and  perhaps keep rain from
falling on the
back of the engine?  This would  have the added benefit of
perhaps making it
a bit harder for someone to reach  in and remove things from
the top of the
engine (dog-bone air cleaner for  instance) or the caps on the
coolant
tanks.
Given that plexiglass is not all  that hard to contour this
would seem like
a
possible improvement as long as  it did not overly restrict
airflow around
the engine.  Making the  assumption that airflow around the
engine is a good
thing.

Comments?

Stephen,

Last year I had been
re-reading some of my old Pantera International
magazines
from the 1970's.
One of the articles in the magazine had to do with
fitting a plexiglass cover
over the rear decklid opening, thereby sealing it
off.  As I recall, whoever
came up with the idea was selling a "kit" to
convert your Pantera as well.  I
had never seen or heard of such a thing  until I
read the article.  Sounds to
me like everything old is new  again.  I will
see if I can locate it and scan
it for the group.

By the way, the last time I was reminded of this
modification was when the
new Kyosho Pantera 1/18 scale models came out last
year and all of them had
this  very modification installed in the decklid
opening.  It works great
on the  model so it must work great in real life
:o)

Jim

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   I've thought about installing a belly pan under the engine to reduce
   the suction of dirt, dust, rocks, gravel, and water off the road and
   hopefully keep the rear decklid a bit cleaner. Not concerned with hot
   air from under the car helping to cool the engine that's a function
   handled by the radiator.  Now if it were an air cooled engine with
   cooling fins it would be a different story.
   Just gotta get my car back on the road first...
   -----Original Message-----
   From: wawuzat via DeTomaso <detomaso at poca.com>
   To: detomaso <detomaso at poca.com>
   Sent: Sun, May 3, 2015 12:42 pm
   Subject: [DeTomaso]  Driving in the rain/Decklid opening modification
   Stephen wrote:
   OK - now for the more intersting question.  Has  anyone ever
   installed any
   form of a partial window in the hole above the  engine?  Or a
   simple piece
   of
   glass or plexi to fill the hole?  I  am thinking plexiglass
   contoured such
   that it fits into a rubber gasket  around the opening but is
   belled out at
   the lower edge to allow air flow and  perhaps keep rain from
   falling on the
   back of the engine?  This would  have the added benefit of
   perhaps making it
   a bit harder for someone to reach  in and remove things from
   the top of the
   engine (dog-bone air cleaner for  instance) or the caps on the
   coolant
   tanks.
   Given that plexiglass is not all  that hard to contour this
   would seem like
   a
   possible improvement as long as  it did not overly restrict
   airflow around
   the engine.  Making the  assumption that airflow around the
   engine is a good
   thing.
   Comments?
   Stephen,
   Last year I had been
   re-reading some of my old Pantera International
   magazines
   from the 1970's.
   One of the articles in the magazine had to do with
   fitting a plexiglass cover
   over the rear decklid opening, thereby sealing it
   off.  As I recall, whoever
   came up with the idea was selling a "kit" to
   convert your Pantera as well.  I
   had never seen or heard of such a thing  until I
   read the article.  Sounds to
   me like everything old is new  again.  I will
   see if I can locate it and scan
   it for the group.

   By the way, the last time I was reminded of this
   modification was when the
   new Kyosho Pantera 1/18 scale models came out last
   year and all of them had
   this  very modification installed in the decklid
   opening.  It works great
   on the  model so it must work great in real life
   :o)

   Jim


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      Years ago, there were a few Panteras with louvers just in the back
      window opening. They sort of looked like venetian blinds. The more
      popular kits had louvers filling the whole deck sugar-scoop area
   much
      like a Miura. Both probably changed the rear aero.
      -----Original Message-----
      From: wawuzat via DeTomaso <detomaso at poca.com>
      To: detomaso <detomaso at poca.com>
      Sent: Sun, May 3, 2015 12:42 pm
      Subject: [DeTomaso] Driving in the rain/Decklid opening modification
   Stephen wrote:
   OK - now for the more intersting question.  Has  anyone ever
   installed any
   form of a partial window in the hole above the  engine?  Or a
   simple piece
   of
   glass or plexi to fill the hole?  I  am thinking plexiglass
   contoured such
   that it fits into a rubber gasket  around the opening but is
   belled out at
   the lower edge to allow air flow and  perhaps keep rain from
   falling on the
   back of the engine?  This would  have the added benefit of
   perhaps making it
   a bit harder for someone to reach  in and remove things from
   the top of the
   engine (dog-bone air cleaner for  instance) or the caps on the
   coolant
   tanks.
   Given that plexiglass is not all  that hard to contour this
   would seem like
   a
   possible improvement as long as  it did not overly restrict
   airflow around
   the engine.  Making the  assumption that airflow around the
   engine is a good
   thing.
   Comments?
   Stephen,
   Last year I had been
   re-reading some of my old Pantera International
   magazines
   from the 1970's.
   One of the articles in the magazine had to do with
   fitting a plexiglass cover
   over the rear decklid opening, thereby sealing it
   off.  As I recall, whoever
   came up with the idea was selling a "kit" to
   convert your Pantera as well.  I
   had never seen or heard of such a thing  until I
   read the article.  Sounds to
   me like everything old is new  again.  I will
   see if I can locate it and scan
   it for the group.
   By the way, the last time I was reminded of this
   modification was when the
   new Kyosho Pantera 1/18 scale models came out last
   year and all of them had
   this  very modification installed in the decklid
   opening.  It works great
   on the  model so it must work great in real life
   :o)
   Jim