[DeTomaso] Wilwood, Brembo brakes
Will Kooiman
will.kooiman at gmail.com
Tue Mar 10 19:21:19 EDT 2015
Isn¹t the bigger issue the size of the rotors?
I wouldn¹t be surprised if a stock sized rotor would work with big
calipers - but not the other way around.
I have Wilwood 6-pistons on the front of my car (from Quella), and they
fit 16² Marino clones. They do not fit 8² Campys, even with the rotor
spaced pretty far out.
But I didn¹t tell him I wanted 6-piston calipers to fit stock wheels. I
told him what I had, and what I wanted, and he sent something that works.
Actually, I told him I wanted the same calipers that Kirby had, because it
works. But I might have larger rotors - cause I just gotta be a little
bigger.
On 3/10/15, 4:36 PM, "Michael Shortt" <michaelsavga at gmail.com> wrote:
> I have the Super Stopper II brakes on my car, they will bring you to a
> stop brutally fast,
> esp with a vac booster in place, and very little if any fade, haven't
> run across fade in 10 years.
> Michael Shortt
>
> On Tue, Mar 10, 2015 at 4:25 PM, Kirby Schrader
> <[1]kirby.schrader at gmail.com> wrote:
>
> A A Mike,
> A A Further to this, having spoken to Dennis Quella just now, he
> confirms
> A A that Wilwood still make the Grand National caliper that I have
> on 1921
> A A and they make the smaller 6 piston SuperLite version that I
> have on
> A A 1661 which will fit inside a Campagnolo.A
> A A Yes, the design has changed some, but it's still the smaller
> piston and
> A A 6 of them.
> A A I'll still confirm that an old Campy I have will fit over the
> older
> A A version.... Trouble is, I think all I have are 7"....
> A A :-)
> A A And I have been running the Wilwoods on 1661 since 1985. They
> still
> A A work just peachy, thank you very much.
> A A :-)
> A A Later!
> A A Kirby
> A A [1][2]http://www.spacecitypanteras.com/kirbyschrader/
>
> A A On Tue, Mar 10, 2015 at 11:56 AM, Kirby Schrader
> A A <[2][3]kirby.schrader at gmail.com> wrote:
> A A Mike,
> A A Please read my email again. You edited out where I clearly said:
> A A **1921, the race car, is actually running the Wilwood 6 piston
> Grand
> A A National calipers.
> A A **These do NOT fit all 15a wheels (Campagnolo, for example), but
> they
> A A too will fit the Gottis and Bassetts.
> A A Sure, the Grand National calipers won't fit Campies. I said that.
> A A Making the blatant statement that you cannot have 6 piston
> calipers
> A A with 15" wheels is just wrong.
> A A Lots of people do it....
> A A Now you add caveats after the fact.
> A A :-)
> A A Oh, mine are old.
> A A Oh, I'm not using Campagnolos.
> A A That's enough to make me go home tonight and take a front wheel
> off and
> A A try a Campy on 1661.
> A A I'll do that when I go out to put my new aluminum hubs and hats on
> 1921
> A A with my Wilwood 6 piston Grand National calipers.A
> A A All with 15" wheels and Avon slicks.
> A A :-)
> A A The vintage 1985 'old' 4 piston Wilwoods I have on the rear of
> 1661
> A A (and used to have on the front) were ground off on theA
> A A corners by none other than Quella (probably Kip) to fit the 8 and
> 10"
> A A Campies I used to have.
> A A When I replaced the front 4 piston calieprs with the 6 piston
> model, it
> A A was a direct bolt on replacement.
> A A The newer 4 piston AND the small 6 piston Wilwoods have the
> corners
> A A already beveled off and they still fit.
> A A I will take pictures to prove it, should you so desire.
> A A I will confirm the model I have when I get home tonight. I'm
> pretty
> A A sure that Wilwood still makes them.
> A A if not, I will stand corrected on that point, but I still stick to
> the
> A A statement that you CAN run 15" wheels and 6 piston calipers.
> A A Sticking to the facts in Magnolia,
> A A Kirby
>
> A A On Tue, Mar 10, 2015 at 11:31 AM, <[3][4]MikeLDrew at aol.com>
> wrote:
> A A A In a message dated 3/10/15 2 31 4,
> [4][5]kirby.schrader at gmail.com
>
> A A A writes:
> A A A I have to differ with you with regard to 6 piston Wilwood
> calipers,
> A A A I have been running 6 piston calipers on the front of 1661 for
> A A A years.
> A A A I think I installed them back in 2000 or so. They are
> SuperLites, I
> A A A think.
> A A A With 15a wheels.
> A A A Yes, I have 18a wheels now for the street, but 15a Gottis or
> A A A Bassetts fit just fine.
> A A A >>>Ah, but you're not fully disclosing here.AA You don't have
> A A A standard 15-inch Campagnolo wheels on your car.AA It's flared
> and
> A A A wears GT5-sized wheels.AA Have you ever tried fitting a stock
> wheel
> A A A (either 7 or 8 inch) on the front of your car?AA I suspect it
> A A A wouldn't fit.AA If it did, it would only fit because your
> calipers
> A A A are old.
> A A A It certainly wouldn't fit with the type of Wilwood calipers
> they
> A A A sell now.AA The old-school Wilwood castings were nice and
> rounded,
> A A A and provided plenty of clearance for smaller wheels.AA The new
> ones
> A A A are much more box-shaped, unfortunately.AA In fact, I have had
> A A A four-piston Wilwood Superlites on my car since the early
> 1990s.A
> A A A When I attempted to fit new four-piston Wilwood Superlites in
> the
> A A A front, they wouldn't fit initially due to the changed
> architecture
> A A A of the calipers, and new brackets let them fit, but just
> barely.A
> A A A And none of the currently-produced six-piston calipers would
> even
> A A A come close to fitting....
> A A A Mike
> References
>
> A A 1. [6]http://www.spacecitypanteras.com/kirbyschrader/
> A A 2. mailto:[7]kirby.schrader at gmail.com
> A A 3. mailto:[8]MikeLDrew at aol.com
> A A 4. mailto:[9]kirby.schrader at gmail.com
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> 3. mailto:kirby.schrader at gmail.com
> 4. mailto:MikeLDrew at aol.com
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