[DeTomaso] Asa Jay, Thanks for taking care of the list
Jeff Detrich
jjdetrich at gmail.com
Sat Mar 7 12:27:01 EST 2015
Hear! Hear! Well said.
And thanks for the time and thought you have put into helping the club over
the years.
Jeff
6559
On Sat, Mar 7, 2015 at 8:18 AM, Asa Jay Laughton <asajay at asajay.com> wrote:
> All,
> It was nearly 20 years ago when Shane Ingate had the idea of using the new
> medium called The Internet to bring together Pantera owners. I, along with
> about 20 or so others became founding subscribers of The DeTomaso email
> forum. In those early days, the administrator (I forget if it was Shane or
> Andy), would send out a list with who posted and how many posting they had.
>
> The list was great in the early days. It helped a lot of people
> understand some of the quirks found in the Pantera and what to do about
> them. It helped people understand the difference between a pre-L and and
> L, and a GT5-S for example. Repeated questions were met with repeated
> answers and not snide comments like "go look in the archives." It was
> open, pleasant and I thought really helped further the image and exposure
> of both the DeTomaso company and the Pantera.
>
> This list was not meant for political or religious discourse. Generally
> there are many topics people have learned to stay away from among
> acquaintances and this email list should be treated no differently.
>
> Because the list has been unmoderated for so long, many little things have
> been allowed through. Sometimes some nasty things get said and in most
> cases, the people realize what the did and apologies usually follow. We
> have some great people here, we have some honorable people here and we have
> some that we might consider to be a bit less, but as so many have pointed
> out in the past, can't we look past some of our personal differences to the
> things that matter in the context of owning a Pantera.
>
> It's fun to argue about the best color for a Pantera (white), or which
> bumpers are better (L), but when conversations devolve into political
> infighting and profane (or near profane) bickering and sniping, it puts a
> foul taste in everyone's mouth.
>
> When Andy Poling approached the POCA Board with the idea of hosting this
> email list on the POCA server because he was no longer interested, there
> was only one agreement; the list still had to be open and available to
> anyone regardless of being a POCA member. This he felt (and most did to)
> this would keep the discussion about Pantera's alive and well regardless if
> someone wanted to be a POCA member or not.
>
> The POCA Board agreed to that and I've been the person who did all the
> work to transfer it from Andy's old server to the POCA server. I'm the one
> who rebuilt the email list after the POCA Server was hacked two years ago
> (and if anyone noticed, most of the POCA web site last August). Since
> then, it's been a pretty simple job.
>
> Unfortunately, this last incident has caused me to put myself into a
> position of moderating some things. I never thought we'd need to do that,
> but it's come to that. I'd be more than happy to let someone else take
> over the administration of the list; they just need to know how the GNU
> Mailman software works, how it works on a Linux system and how a Linux
> system works. I know there are qualified folks reading this.
>
> But I do want to remind you, this is not like the PI Forum or any other
> on-line forum. This is email and it is stored and re-sent differently.
> Once you post it, it's public; it's already been delivered to all the
> subscribers mail boxes. It's stored in semi-cryptic files on the server;
> it's not "threaded." It takes a large amount of effort to try and remove
> individual posts, much less "threads." So please be aware of what you
> write, it -will- become published history.
>
> And one last tid bit. Please do NOT re-post private emails. This pulls
> an argument into the public domain which is in all honestly not really fair
> to the person who sent the private email, and it can like this time, stir
> things even worse for both parties. Please don't act on the urge to
> justify yourself in public when you really need to respond in private.
>
> Let's please keep things on-topic.
>
> Thank you for reading this far.
> Asa Jay
>
> That has worked pretty well for a while.
>
> Asa Jay Laughton, MSgt, USAFR, Retired
> & Shelley Marie
> Spokane, WA
> ******************************
> http://www.racingagainstautism.com
> http://www.teampanteraracing.com
> http://facebook.com/racingagainstautism
>
>
>
> On 3/6/2015 9:28 PM, Nolan wrote:
>
>> Hello Asa Jay,
>>
>> Thank you for being list mom amongst other things. I appreciate all
>> your help.
>>
>>
>> I have sent money into other lists over the years like the Datsun
>> Roaster list I have been on forever.
>>
>> I have never seen any place to help out for the Pantera list. Does
>> [1]asajay at asajay.com work for Paypal? I'm sure there are others that
>> would also like the chance to say thank you.
>>
>>
>> All my best,
>>
>> Nolan
>>
>> References
>>
>> 1. mailto:asajay at asajay.com
>>
>>
>>
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Hear! Hear!A Well said.
And thanks for the time and thought you have put into helping the club
over the years.
Jeff
6559
On Sat, Mar 7, 2015 at 8:18 AM, Asa Jay Laughton <[1]asajay at asajay.com>
wrote:
All,
It was nearly 20 years ago when Shane Ingate had the idea of using
the new medium called The Internet to bring together Pantera
owners.A I, along with about 20 or so others became founding
subscribers of The DeTomaso email forum.A In those early days, the
administrator (I forget if it was Shane or Andy), would send out a
list with who posted and how many posting they had.
The list was great in the early days.A It helped a lot of people
understand some of the quirks found in the Pantera and what to do
about them.A It helped people understand the difference between a
pre-L and and L, and a GT5-S for example.A Repeated questions were
met with repeated answers and not snide comments like "go look in
the archives."A It was open, pleasant and I thought really helped
further the image and exposure of both the DeTomaso company and the
Pantera.
This list was not meant for political or religious discourse.A
Generally there are many topics people have learned to stay away
from among acquaintances and this email list should be treated no
differently.
Because the list has been unmoderated for so long, many little
things have been allowed through.A Sometimes some nasty things get
said and in most cases, the people realize what the did and
apologies usually follow.A We have some great people here, we have
some honorable people here and we have some that we might consider
to be a bit less, but as so many have pointed out in the past, can't
we look past some of our personal differences to the things that
matter in the context of owning a Pantera.
It's fun to argue about the best color for a Pantera (white), or
which bumpers are better (L), but when conversations devolve into
political infighting and profane (or near profane) bickering and
sniping, it puts a foul taste in everyone's mouth.
When Andy Poling approached the POCA Board with the idea of hosting
this email list on the POCA server because he was no longer
interested, there was only one agreement; the list still had to be
open and available to anyone regardless of being a POCA member.A
This he felt (and most did to) this would keep the discussion about
Pantera's alive and well regardless if someone wanted to be a POCA
member or not.
The POCA Board agreed to that and I've been the person who did all
the work to transfer it from Andy's old server to the POCA server.A
I'm the one who rebuilt the email list after the POCA Server was
hacked two years ago (and if anyone noticed, most of the POCA web
site last August).A Since then, it's been a pretty simple job.
Unfortunately, this last incident has caused me to put myself into a
position of moderating some things.A I never thought we'd need to
do that, but it's come to that.A I'd be more than happy to let
someone else take over the administration of the list; they just
need to know how theA GNU Mailman software works, how it works on a
Linux system and how a Linux system works.A I know there are
qualified folks reading this.
But I do want to remind you, this is not like the PI Forum or any
other on-line forum.A This is email and it is stored and re-sent
differently.A Once you post it, it's public; it's already been
delivered to all the subscribers mail boxes.A It's stored in
semi-cryptic files on the server; it's not "threaded."A It takes a
large amount of effort to try and remove individual posts, much less
"threads."A So please be aware of what you write, it -will- become
published history.
And one last tid bit.A Please do NOT re-post private emails.A This
pulls an argument into the public domain which is in all honestly
not really fair to the person who sent the private email, and it can
like this time, stir things even worse for both parties.A Please
don't act on the urge to justify yourself in public when you really
need to respond in private.
Let's please keep things on-topic.
Thank you for reading this far.
AsaA Jay
That has worked pretty well for a while.
Asa Jay Laughton, MSgt, USAFR, Retired
&A Shelley Marie
Spokane, WA
******************************
[2]http://www.racingagainstautism.com
[3]http://www.teampanteraracing.com
[4]http://facebook.com/racingagainstautism
On 3/6/2015 9:28 PM, Nolan wrote:
A A Hello Asa Jay,
A A Thank you for being list mom amongst other things. I appreciate
all
A A your help.
A A I have sent money into other lists over the years like the Datsun
A A Roaster list I have been on forever.
A A I have never seen any place to help out for the Pantera list.
Does
A A [1][5]asajay at asajay.com work for Paypal? I'm sure there are
others that
A A would also like the chance to say thank you.
A A All my best,
A A Nolan
References
A A 1. mailto:[6]asajay at asajay.com
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