[DeTomaso] Asa Jay, Thanks for taking care of the list

[Asa Jay Laughton]

All,
It was nearly 20 years ago when Shane Ingate had the idea of using the 
new medium called The Internet to bring together Pantera owners.  I, 
along with about 20 or so others became founding subscribers of The 
DeTomaso email forum.  In those early days, the administrator (I forget 
if it was Shane or Andy), would send out a list with who posted and how 
many posting they had.

The list was great in the early days.  It helped a lot of people 
understand some of the quirks found in the Pantera and what to do about 
them.  It helped people understand the difference between a pre-L and 
and L, and a GT5-S for example.  Repeated questions were met with 
repeated answers and not snide comments like "go look in the archives."  
It was open, pleasant and I thought really helped further the image and 
exposure of both the DeTomaso company and the Pantera.

This list was not meant for political or religious discourse.  Generally 
there are many topics people have learned to stay away from among 
acquaintances and this email list should be treated no differently.

Because the list has been unmoderated for so long, many little things 
have been allowed through.  Sometimes some nasty things get said and in 
most cases, the people realize what the did and apologies usually 
follow.  We have some great people here, we have some honorable people 
here and we have some that we might consider to be a bit less, but as so 
many have pointed out in the past, can't we look past some of our 
personal differences to the things that matter in the context of owning 
a Pantera.

It's fun to argue about the best color for a Pantera (white), or which 
bumpers are better (L), but when conversations devolve into political 
infighting and profane (or near profane) bickering and sniping, it puts 
a foul taste in everyone's mouth.

When Andy Poling approached the POCA Board with the idea of hosting this 
email list on the POCA server because he was no longer interested, there 
was only one agreement; the list still had to be open and available to 
anyone regardless of being a POCA member.  This he felt (and most did 
to) this would keep the discussion about Pantera's alive and well 
regardless if someone wanted to be a POCA member or not.

The POCA Board agreed to that and I've been the person who did all the 
work to transfer it from Andy's old server to the POCA server.  I'm the 
one who rebuilt the email list after the POCA Server was hacked two 
years ago (and if anyone noticed, most of the POCA web site last 
August).  Since then, it's been a pretty simple job.

Unfortunately, this last incident has caused me to put myself into a 
position of moderating some things.  I never thought we'd need to do 
that, but it's come to that.  I'd be more than happy to let someone else 
take over the administration of the list; they just need to know how 
the  GNU Mailman software works, how it works on a Linux system and how 
a Linux system works.  I know there are qualified folks reading this.

But I do want to remind you, this is not like the PI Forum or any other 
on-line forum.  This is email and it is stored and re-sent differently.  
Once you post it, it's public; it's already been delivered to all the 
subscribers mail boxes.  It's stored in semi-cryptic files on the 
server; it's not "threaded."  It takes a large amount of effort to try 
and remove individual posts, much less "threads."  So please be aware of 
what you write, it -will- become published history.

And one last tid bit.  Please do NOT re-post private emails.  This pulls 
an argument into the public domain which is in all honestly not really 
fair to the person who sent the private email, and it can like this 
time, stir things even worse for both parties.  Please don't act on the 
urge to justify yourself in public when you really need to respond in 
private.

Let's please keep things on-topic.

Thank you for reading this far.
Asa  Jay

That has worked pretty well for a while.

Asa Jay Laughton, MSgt, USAFR, Retired
&  Shelley Marie
Spokane, WA
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On 3/6/2015 9:28 PM, Nolan wrote:
>     Hello Asa Jay,
>
>     Thank you for being list mom amongst other things. I appreciate all
>     your help.
>
>
>     I have sent money into other lists over the years like the Datsun
>     Roaster list I have been on forever.
>
>     I have never seen any place to help out for the Pantera list. Does
>     [1]asajay at asajay.com work for Paypal? I'm sure there are others that
>     would also like the chance to say thank you.
>
>
>     All my best,
>
>     Nolan
>
> References
>
>     1. mailto:asajay at asajay.com
>
>
>
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