[DeTomaso] Radiators
thomas
thomas at hax.se
Mon Jun 29 11:20:46 EDT 2015
The old radiator was plugged already before the Tefba.
The inspiration for the anode was a discussion on this list about a year ago. I got one from a local marine shop and it threads right into the radiator in place of the drain cock. I didn't even drain the cooling system.
Cheers,
Thomas
> 29 jun 2015 kl. 16:56 skrev Charles McCall <charlesmccall at gmail.com>:
>
> So, Thomas, I assume that that means that your radiator is clogged from sludge (rust-slime stuff) that is far too fine for the Tefba, and that was your motivation for installing a sacrificial node?
>
>> On Mon, Jun 29, 2015 at 4:26 PM, Thomas Tornblom <thomas at hax.se> wrote:
>> Den 2015-06-29 16:22, Charles McCall skrev:
>>> Do you run any kind of Tefba filter (or equivalent) in your cooling system?
>>
>> Yes, forgot about that. I have a Tefba.
>>
>> I think that is about 10 years old too now. It doesn't see much crap anymore, but there was some after the engine rebuilds.
>>
>> Cheers,
>> Thomas
>>
>>>
>>> On Mon, Jun 29, 2015 at 3:45 PM, Thomas Tornblom <thomas at hax.se
>>> <mailto:thomas at hax.se>> wrote:
>>>
>>> My Fluidyne radiator was installed 2005 and is still working fine.
>>>
>>> Last year I replaced the drain cock with a sacrifical anode, hoping
>>> to avoid any galvanic corrosion.
>>>
>>> I had tried to get the stock brass radiator to work, but it was
>>> plugged up in so many cells that it was no longer usable.
>>>
>>> Thomas
>>>
>>> Den 2015-06-29 14:29, Charles McCall skrev:
>>>
>>> Inquiry sent, Al, thanks. May beA in the market for a new
>>> radiator, as
>>> mine is marking its territory a Little more every day. A
>>> lifetime
>>> warranty would be fantastic!
>>>
>>> On Mon, Jun 29, 2015 at 1:44 PM, Al Chelini
>>> <[1]pantera at cox.net <mailto:pantera at cox.net>> wrote:
>>>
>>> A A Hi, gang,
>>> A A FWIW, I just got thru with a leaky radiator project
>>> on another
>>> A A (extensively modified) make vehicle, which came with
>>> a Ron
>>> Davis (RD)
>>> A A radiator.AA That RD unit developed some serious
>>> leaks along
>>> the top &
>>> A A bottom ends where the side tanks meet the supporting
>>> rails; and
>>> I
>>> A A thought I'd share this learning experience with the
>>> group.
>>> A A After calling RD's Customer Support seeking repairs,
>>> I found
>>> that:
>>> A A 1) they can't repair an aluminum radiator once it's
>>> come in
>>> contact
>>> A A with radiator coolant. They claim it contaminates
>>> the metal,
>>> making it
>>> A A impossible to TIG weld successfully.
>>> A A 2) they will be happy to sell me a new unit .....AA
>>> about
>>> $1000,
>>> A A delivered.AA But, with only their standard 90 day
>>> limited
>>> warranty.
>>> A A Kinda' chintzy policy for such an expensive part,
>>> when the GM
>>> A A replacement version is only $150. Are these things
>>> considered a
>>> A A consumable, like brake pads?
>>> A A 3) On a recommendation from a trusted source, I
>>> picked up a
>>> Mishimoto
>>> A A radiator for about 40% the cost of a new RD, and it
>>> has a
>>> Lifetime
>>> A A warranty. Everyone who has seen the new part claims
>>> that the
>>> A A workmanship is superior to the RD.A
>>> A A 4) But, I checked the [1][2]mishimoto.com
>>> <http://mishimoto.com> website, they don't
>>> offer one
>>> A A for the Pantera (yet).AA But, I did leave an email
>>> suggesting
>>> that they
>>> A A market one.
>>> A A Here's the pitch: Maybe if a few other list members
>>> would
>>> contact them
>>> A A expressing a desire to buy their Pantera version,
>>> they might be
>>> A A motivated to start producing them. They make
>>> radiators for cars
>>> which
>>> A A are much lower volume than the Pantera.
>>> A A Bonus: Mishimoto is a huge company, and their
>>> customer service
>>> is
>>> A A outstanding. The Lifetime warranty sold me.
>>> A A Final thought:
>>> A A The OEM Pantera radiator is a very good part; but,
>>> some of
>>> these were
>>> A A not built correctly. Technical Service Bulletin
>>> (TSB) #8,
>>> article 61
>>> A A describes a correcting modification which can be
>>> done by a
>>> competent
>>> A A radiator shop.
>>> A A FWIW,
>>> A A Al (3915)
>>> A
>>> A
>>> ==================================================================
>>> A A On Mon, Jun 29, 2015 at 1:26 AM, michael barnes
>>> A A <[2][3]michaelbarnessrt10 at hotmail.co.uk
>>> <mailto:michaelbarnessrt10 at hotmail.co.uk>> wrote:
>>> A A A I bought a Superior radiator,it was made upside
>>> down so
>>> obviously
>>> A A A wouldn't fit .After sales was shocking , three
>>> months and no
>>> A A A replacement d-!
>>> A A A Sent by Michael Barnes
>>> A A A > On 29 Jun 2015, at 07:05, Ed Mendez
>>> <[3][4]edducati at mac.com <mailto:edducati at mac.com>> wrote:
>>> A A A >
>>> A A A > I have a stock radiator for sale if anyone
>>> interested. It
>>> has a
>>> A A A radiator cap on it which weird but I suppose you
>>> can weld
>>> that off?
>>> A A A >
>>> A A A > Ed
>>> A A A >
>>> A A A >
>>> A A A >> On Jun 28, 2015, at 21:10, marshallgsmith
>>> A A A <[4][5]marshallgsmith at sbcglobal.net
>>> <mailto:marshallgsmith at sbcglobal.net>> wrote:
>>> A A A >>
>>> A A A >>AA Don't discount the original radiator. It is
>>> very good
>>> and has
>>> A A A cooled my
>>> A A A >>AA car for many years.All that is needed is
>>> modern day
>>> high volume
>>> A A A fans.
>>> A A A >>
>>> A A A >>AA Marshall
>>> A A A >>
>>> A A A >>AA Sent from my Verizon Wireless 4G LTE smartphone
>>> A A A >>
>>> A A A >>AA -------- Original message --------
>>> A A A >>AA From: Julian Kift
>>> <[5][6]julian_kift at hotmail.com <mailto:julian_kift at hotmail.com>>
>>> A A A >>AA Date: 06/28/2015 8:52 PM (GMT-08:00)
>>> A A A >>AA To: [6][7]mikeldrew at aol.com
>>> <mailto:mikeldrew at aol.com>, [7][8]steve at snclocks.com
>>> <mailto:steve at snclocks.com>,
>>> A A A [8][9]detomaso at poca.com <mailto:detomaso at poca.com>
>>> A A A >>AA Subject: Re: [DeTomaso] Radiators
>>> A A A >>AA For other options in aluminum Ron Davies
>>> makes a nice
>>> radiator
>>> A A A for the
>>> A A A >>AA Pantera by all accounts and Superior
>>> Radiator sells
>>> their
>>> A A A version on
>>> A A A >>AA eBay with some happy customers.
>>> A A A >>AA Julian
>>> A A A >>AA Date: Sun, 28 Jun 2015 21:10:23 -0400
>>> A A A >>AA To: [9][10]steve at snclocks.com
>>> <mailto:steve at snclocks.com>;
>>> [10][11]detomaso at poca.com <mailto:detomaso at poca.com>
>>> A A A >>AA Subject: Re: [DeTomaso] Radiators
>>> A A A >>AA From: [11][12]detomaso at poca.com
>>> <mailto:detomaso at poca.com>
>>> A A A >>AA In a message dated 6/28/15 15 34 37,
>>> [12][13]steve at snclocks.com <mailto:steve at snclocks.com>
>>> A A A writes:
>>> A A A >>> Whilst I am enjoying driving 5332, I noticed
>>> that I have
>>> a seep
>>> A A A from
>>> A A A >>> where one of the radiator tubes enters the header
>>> tank.AA Looks
>>> A A A like
>>> A A A >>AA it has been
>>> A A A >>> there a while, small seep, but left a puddle
>>> when I ran
>>> the
>>> A A A engine at
>>> A A A >>AA 1500
>>> A A A >>> rpm for 10 minutes to charge the a/c.AA It's
>>> a Fluidyne
>>> A A A radiator,
>>> A A A >>AA bought
>>> A A A >>> and installed in 2011, with perhaps 4,000
>>> miles on it.
>>> A A A >>>
>>> A A A >>>>> Bummer.AA A Many have discovered to their
>>> sadness
>>> that
>>> A A A Fluidyne
>>> A A A >>AA radiators
>>> A A A >>AA (at least the first-generation models for
>>> the Pantera)
>>> cooled
>>> A A A very well
>>> A A A >
>>> A A A _______________________________________________
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>>> A A On Mon, Jun 29, 2015 at 1:26 AM, michael barnes
>>> A A <[15][16]michaelbarnessrt10 at hotmail.co.uk
>>> <mailto:michaelbarnessrt10 at hotmail.co.uk>> wrote:
>>> A A A I bought a Superior radiator,it was made upside
>>> down so
>>> obviously
>>> A A A wouldn't fit .After sales was shocking , three
>>> months and no
>>> A A A replacement d-!
>>> A A A Sent by Michael Barnes
>>> A A A > On 29 Jun 2015, at 07:05, Ed Mendez
>>> <[16][17]edducati at mac.com <mailto:edducati at mac.com>> wrote:
>>> A A A >
>>> A A A > I have a stock radiator for sale if anyone
>>> interested. It
>>> has a
>>> A A A radiator cap on it which weird but I suppose you
>>> can weld
>>> that off?
>>> A A A >
>>> A A A > Ed
>>> A A A >
>>> A A A >
>>> A A A >> On Jun 28, 2015, at 21:10, marshallgsmith
>>> A A A <[17][18]marshallgsmith at sbcglobal.net
>>> <mailto:marshallgsmith at sbcglobal.net>> wrote:
>>> A A A >>
>>> A A A >>AA Don't discount the original radiator. It is
>>> very good
>>> and has
>>> A A A cooled my
>>> A A A >>AA car for many years.All that is needed is
>>> modern day
>>> high volume
>>> A A A fans.
>>> A A A >>
>>> A A A >>AA Marshall
>>> A A A >>
>>> A A A >>AA Sent from my Verizon Wireless 4G LTE smartphone
>>> A A A >>
>>> A A A >>AA -------- Original message --------
>>> A A A >>AA From: Julian Kift
>>> <[18][19]julian_kift at hotmail.com <mailto:julian_kift at hotmail.com>>
>>> A A A >>AA Date: 06/28/2015 8:52 PM (GMT-08:00)
>>> A A A >>AA To: [19][20]mikeldrew at aol.com
>>> <mailto:mikeldrew at aol.com>,
>>> [20][21]steve at snclocks.com <mailto:steve at snclocks.com>,
>>> A A A [21][22]detomaso at poca.com <mailto:detomaso at poca.com>
>>> A A A >>AA Subject: Re: [DeTomaso] Radiators
>>> A A A >>AA For other options in aluminum Ron Davies
>>> makes a nice
>>> radiator
>>> A A A for the
>>> A A A >>AA Pantera by all accounts and Superior
>>> Radiator sells
>>> their
>>> A A A version on
>>> A A A >>AA eBay with some happy customers.
>>> A A A >>AA Julian
>>> A A A >>AA Date: Sun, 28 Jun 2015 21:10:23 -0400
>>> A A A >>AA To: [22][23]steve at snclocks.com
>>> <mailto:steve at snclocks.com>;
>>> [23][24]detomaso at poca.com <mailto:detomaso at poca.com>
>>> A A A >>AA Subject: Re: [DeTomaso] Radiators
>>> A A A >>AA From: [24][25]detomaso at poca.com
>>> <mailto:detomaso at poca.com>
>>> A A A >>AA In a message dated 6/28/15 15 34 37,
>>> [25][26]steve at snclocks.com <mailto:steve at snclocks.com>
>>> A A A writes:
>>> A A A >>> Whilst I am enjoying driving 5332, I noticed
>>> that I have
>>> a seep
>>> A A A from
>>> A A A >>> where one of the radiator tubes enters the header
>>> tank.AA Looks
>>> A A A like
>>> A A A >>AA it has been
>>> A A A >>> there a while, small seep, but left a puddle
>>> when I ran
>>> the
>>> A A A engine at
>>> A A A >>AA 1500
>>> A A A >>> rpm for 10 minutes to charge the a/c.AA It's
>>> a Fluidyne
>>> A A A radiator,
>>> A A A >>AA bought
>>> A A A >>> and installed in 2011, with perhaps 4,000
>>> miles on it.
>>> A A A >>>
>>> A A A >>>>> Bummer.AA A Many have discovered to their
>>> sadness
>>> that
>>> A A A Fluidyne
>>> A A A >>AA radiators
>>> A A A >>AA (at least the first-generation models for
>>> the Pantera)
>>> cooled
>>> A A A very well
>>> A A A >
>>> A A A _______________________________________________
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>>> A A 1. [29]http://mishimoto.com/
>>> A A 2. mailto:[30]michaelbarnessrt10 at hotmail.co.uk
>>> <mailto:michaelbarnessrt10 at hotmail.co.uk>
>>> A A 3. mailto:[31]edducati at mac.com <mailto:edducati at mac.com>
>>> A A 4. mailto:[32]marshallgsmith at sbcglobal.net
>>> <mailto:marshallgsmith at sbcglobal.net>
>>> A A 5. mailto:[33]julian_kift at hotmail.com
>>> <mailto:julian_kift at hotmail.com>
>>> A A 6. mailto:[34]mikeldrew at aol.com
>>> <mailto:mikeldrew at aol.com>
>>> A A 7. mailto:[35]steve at snclocks.com
>>> <mailto:steve at snclocks.com>
>>> A A 8. mailto:[36]detomaso at poca.com
>>> <mailto:detomaso at poca.com>
>>> A A 9. mailto:[37]steve at snclocks.com
>>> <mailto:steve at snclocks.com>
>>> A 10. mailto:[38]detomaso at poca.com
>>> <mailto:detomaso at poca.com>
>>> A 11. mailto:[39]detomaso at poca.com
>>> <mailto:detomaso at poca.com>
>>> A 12. mailto:[40]steve at snclocks.com
>>> <mailto:steve at snclocks.com>
>>> A 13. mailto:[41]DeTomaso at poca.com
>>> <mailto:DeTomaso at poca.com>
>>> A 14. [42]http://poca.com/mailman/listinfo/detomaso_poca.com
>>> A 15. mailto:[43]michaelbarnessrt10 at hotmail.co.uk
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>>> A 16. mailto:[44]edducati at mac.com <mailto:edducati at mac.com>
>>> A 17. mailto:[45]marshallgsmith at sbcglobal.net
>>> <mailto:marshallgsmith at sbcglobal.net>
>>> A 18. mailto:[46]julian_kift at hotmail.com
>>> <mailto:julian_kift at hotmail.com>
>>> A 19. mailto:[47]mikeldrew at aol.com
>>> <mailto:mikeldrew at aol.com>
>>> A 20. mailto:[48]steve at snclocks.com
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>>> A 21. mailto:[49]detomaso at poca.com
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>>> A 25. mailto:[53]steve at snclocks.com
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>>> A 26. mailto:[54]DeTomaso at poca.com
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>>> References
>>>
>>> 1. mailto:pantera at cox.net <mailto:pantera at cox.net>
>>> 2. http://mishimoto.com/
>>> 3. mailto:michaelbarnessrt10 at hotmail.co.uk
>>> <mailto:michaelbarnessrt10 at hotmail.co.uk>
>>> 4. mailto:edducati at mac.com <mailto:edducati at mac.com>
>>> 5. mailto:marshallgsmith at sbcglobal.net
>>> <mailto:marshallgsmith at sbcglobal.net>
>>> 6. mailto:julian_kift at hotmail.com
>>> <mailto:julian_kift at hotmail.com>
>>> 7. mailto:mikeldrew at aol.com <mailto:mikeldrew at aol.com>
>>> 8. mailto:steve at snclocks.com <mailto:steve at snclocks.com>
>>> 9. mailto:detomaso at poca.com <mailto:detomaso at poca.com>
>>> 10. mailto:steve at snclocks.com <mailto:steve at snclocks.com>
>>> 11. mailto:detomaso at poca.com <mailto:detomaso at poca.com>
>>> 12. mailto:detomaso at poca.com <mailto:detomaso at poca.com>
>>> 13. mailto:steve at snclocks.com <mailto:steve at snclocks.com>
>>> 14. mailto:DeTomaso at poca.com <mailto:DeTomaso at poca.com>
>>> 15. http://poca.com/mailman/listinfo/detomaso_poca.com
>>> 16. mailto:michaelbarnessrt10 at hotmail.co.uk
>>> <mailto:michaelbarnessrt10 at hotmail.co.uk>
>>> 17. mailto:edducati at mac.com <mailto:edducati at mac.com>
>>> 18. mailto:marshallgsmith at sbcglobal.net
>>> <mailto:marshallgsmith at sbcglobal.net>
>>> 19. mailto:julian_kift at hotmail.com
>>> <mailto:julian_kift at hotmail.com>
>>> 20. mailto:mikeldrew at aol.com <mailto:mikeldrew at aol.com>
>>> 21. mailto:steve at snclocks.com <mailto:steve at snclocks.com>
>>> 22. mailto:detomaso at poca.com <mailto:detomaso at poca.com>
>>> 23. mailto:steve at snclocks.com <mailto:steve at snclocks.com>
>>> 24. mailto:detomaso at poca.com <mailto:detomaso at poca.com>
>>> 25. mailto:detomaso at poca.com <mailto:detomaso at poca.com>
>>> 26. mailto:steve at snclocks.com <mailto:steve at snclocks.com>
>>> 27. mailto:DeTomaso at poca.com <mailto:DeTomaso at poca.com>
>>> 28. http://poca.com/mailman/listinfo/detomaso_poca.com
>>> 29. http://mishimoto.com/
>>> 30. mailto:michaelbarnessrt10 at hotmail.co.uk
>>> <mailto:michaelbarnessrt10 at hotmail.co.uk>
>>> 31. mailto:edducati at mac.com <mailto:edducati at mac.com>
>>> 32. mailto:marshallgsmith at sbcglobal.net
>>> <mailto:marshallgsmith at sbcglobal.net>
>>> 33. mailto:julian_kift at hotmail.com
>>> <mailto:julian_kift at hotmail.com>
>>> 34. mailto:mikeldrew at aol.com <mailto:mikeldrew at aol.com>
>>> 35. mailto:steve at snclocks.com <mailto:steve at snclocks.com>
>>> 36. mailto:detomaso at poca.com <mailto:detomaso at poca.com>
>>> 37. mailto:steve at snclocks.com <mailto:steve at snclocks.com>
>>> 38. mailto:detomaso at poca.com <mailto:detomaso at poca.com>
>>> 39. mailto:detomaso at poca.com <mailto:detomaso at poca.com>
>>> 40. mailto:steve at snclocks.com <mailto:steve at snclocks.com>
>>> 41. mailto:DeTomaso at poca.com <mailto:DeTomaso at poca.com>
>>> 42. http://poca.com/mailman/listinfo/detomaso_poca.com
>>> 43. mailto:michaelbarnessrt10 at hotmail.co.uk
>>> <mailto:michaelbarnessrt10 at hotmail.co.uk>
>>> 44. mailto:edducati at mac.com <mailto:edducati at mac.com>
>>> 45. mailto:marshallgsmith at sbcglobal.net
>>> <mailto:marshallgsmith at sbcglobal.net>
>>> 46. mailto:julian_kift at hotmail.com
>>> <mailto:julian_kift at hotmail.com>
>>> 47. mailto:mikeldrew at aol.com <mailto:mikeldrew at aol.com>
>>> 48. mailto:steve at snclocks.com <mailto:steve at snclocks.com>
>>> 49. mailto:detomaso at poca.com <mailto:detomaso at poca.com>
>>> 50. mailto:steve at snclocks.com <mailto:steve at snclocks.com>
>>> 51. mailto:detomaso at poca.com <mailto:detomaso at poca.com>
>>> 52. mailto:detomaso at poca.com <mailto:detomaso at poca.com>
>>> 53. mailto:steve at snclocks.com <mailto:steve at snclocks.com>
>>> 54. mailto:DeTomaso at poca.com <mailto:DeTomaso at poca.com>
>>> 55. http://poca.com/mailman/listinfo/detomaso_poca.com
>>> 56. mailto:DeTomaso at poca.com <mailto:DeTomaso at poca.com>
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The old radiator was plugged already before the Tefba.
The inspiration for the anode was a discussion on this list about a
year ago. I got one from a local marine shop and it threads right into
the radiator in place of the drain cock. I didn't even drain the
cooling system.
Cheers,
Thomas
29 jun 2015 kl. 16:56 skrev Charles McCall
<[1]charlesmccall at gmail.com>:
So, Thomas, I assume that that means that your radiator is clogged from
sludge (rust-slime stuff) that is far too fine for the Tefba, and that
was your motivation for installing a sacrificial node?
On Mon, Jun 29, 2015 at 4:26 PM, Thomas Tornblom <[2]thomas at hax.se>
wrote:
Den 2015-06-29 16:22, Charles McCall skrev:
Do you run any kind of Tefba filter (or equivalent) in your cooling
system?
Yes, forgot about that. I have a Tefba.
I think that is about 10 years old too now. It doesn't see much crap
anymore, but there was some after the engine rebuilds.
Cheers,
Thomas
On Mon, Jun 29, 2015 at 3:45 PM, Thomas Tornblom <[3]thomas at hax.se
<mailto:[4]thomas at hax.se>> wrote:
My Fluidyne radiator was installed 2005 and is still working
fine.
Last year I replaced the drain cock with a sacrifical anode,
hoping
to avoid any galvanic corrosion.
I had tried to get the stock brass radiator to work, but it was
plugged up in so many cells that it was no longer usable.
Thomas
Den 2015-06-29 14:29, Charles McCall skrev:
Inquiry sent, Al, thanks. May beA in the market for a
new
radiator, as
mine is marking its territory a Little more every day.
A
lifetime
warranty would be fantastic!
On Mon, Jun 29, 2015 at 1:44 PM, Al Chelini
<[1][5]pantera at cox.net <mailto:[6]pantera at cox.net>> wrote:
A A Hi, gang,
A A FWIW, I just got thru with a leaky radiator
project
on another
A A (extensively modified) make vehicle, which came
with
a Ron
Davis (RD)
A A radiator.AA That RD unit developed some serious
leaks along
the top &
A A bottom ends where the side tanks meet the
supporting
rails; and
I
A A thought I'd share this learning experience with
the
group.
A A After calling RD's Customer Support seeking
repairs,
I found
that:
A A 1) they can't repair an aluminum radiator once
it's
come in
contact
A A with radiator coolant. They claim it
contaminates
the metal,
making it
A A impossible to TIG weld successfully.
A A 2) they will be happy to sell me a new unit
.....AA
about
$1000,
A A delivered.AA But, with only their standard 90
day
limited
warranty.
A A Kinda' chintzy policy for such an expensive
part,
when the GM
A A replacement version is only $150. Are these
things
considered a
A A consumable, like brake pads?
A A 3) On a recommendation from a trusted source, I
picked up a
Mishimoto
A A radiator for about 40% the cost of a new RD, and
it
has a
Lifetime
A A warranty. Everyone who has seen the new part
claims
that the
A A workmanship is superior to the RD.A
A A 4) But, I checked the [1][2][7]mishimoto.com
<[8]http://mishimoto.com> website, they don't
offer one
A A for the Pantera (yet).AA But, I did leave an
email
suggesting
that they
A A market one.
A A Here's the pitch: Maybe if a few other list
members
would
contact them
A A expressing a desire to buy their Pantera
version,
they might be
A A motivated to start producing them. They make
radiators for cars
which
A A are much lower volume than the Pantera.
A A Bonus: Mishimoto is a huge company, and their
customer service
is
A A outstanding. The Lifetime warranty sold me.
A A Final thought:
A A The OEM Pantera radiator is a very good part;
but,
some of
these were
A A not built correctly. Technical Service Bulletin
(TSB) #8,
article 61
A A describes a correcting modification which can be
done by a
competent
A A radiator shop.
A A FWIW,
A A Al (3915)
A
A
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A A On Mon, Jun 29, 2015 at 1:26 AM, michael barnes
A A <[2][3][9]michaelbarnessrt10 at hotmail.co.uk
<mailto:[10]michaelbarnessrt10 at hotmail.co.uk>> wrote:
A A A I bought a Superior radiator,it was made
upside
down so
obviously
A A A wouldn't fit .After sales was shocking ,
three
months and no
A A A replacement d-!
A A A Sent by Michael Barnes
A A A > On 29 Jun 2015, at 07:05, Ed Mendez
<[3][4][11]edducati at mac.com
<mailto:[12]edducati at mac.com>> wrote:
A A A >
A A A > I have a stock radiator for sale if anyone
interested. It
has a
A A A radiator cap on it which weird but I suppose
you
can weld
that off?
A A A >
A A A > Ed
A A A >
A A A >
A A A >> On Jun 28, 2015, at 21:10, marshallgsmith
A A A <[4][5][13]marshallgsmith at sbcglobal.net
<mailto:[14]marshallgsmith at sbcglobal.net>> wrote:
A A A >>
A A A >>AA Don't discount the original radiator.
It is
very good
and has
A A A cooled my
A A A >>AA car for many years.All that is needed
is
modern day
high volume
A A A fans.
A A A >>
A A A >>AA Marshall
A A A >>
A A A >>AA Sent from my Verizon Wireless 4G LTE
smartphone
A A A >>
A A A >>AA -------- Original message --------
A A A >>AA From: Julian Kift
<[5][6][15]julian_kift at hotmail.com
<mailto:[16]julian_kift at hotmail.com>>
A A A >>AA Date: 06/28/2015 8:52 PM (GMT-08:00)
A A A >>AA To: [6][7][17]mikeldrew at aol.com
<mailto:[18]mikeldrew at aol.com>, [7][8][19]steve at snclocks.com
<mailto:[20]steve at snclocks.com>,
A A A [8][9][21]detomaso at poca.com
<mailto:[22]detomaso at poca.com>
A A A >>AA Subject: Re: [DeTomaso] Radiators
A A A >>AA For other options in aluminum Ron
Davies
makes a nice
radiator
A A A for the
A A A >>AA Pantera by all accounts and Superior
Radiator sells
their
A A A version on
A A A >>AA eBay with some happy customers.
A A A >>AA Julian
A A A >>AA Date: Sun, 28 Jun 2015 21:10:23 -0400
A A A >>AA To: [9][10][23]steve at snclocks.com
<mailto:[24]steve at snclocks.com>;
[10][11][25]detomaso at poca.com
<mailto:[26]detomaso at poca.com>
A A A >>AA Subject: Re: [DeTomaso] Radiators
A A A >>AA From: [11][12][27]detomaso at poca.com
<mailto:[28]detomaso at poca.com>
A A A >>AA In a message dated 6/28/15 15 34 37,
[12][13][29]steve at snclocks.com
<mailto:[30]steve at snclocks.com>
A A A writes:
A A A >>> Whilst I am enjoying driving 5332, I
noticed
that I have
a seep
A A A from
A A A >>> where one of the radiator tubes enters
the header
tank.AA Looks
A A A like
A A A >>AA it has been
A A A >>> there a while, small seep, but left a
puddle
when I ran
the
A A A engine at
A A A >>AA 1500
A A A >>> rpm for 10 minutes to charge the a/c.AA
It's
a Fluidyne
A A A radiator,
A A A >>AA bought
A A A >>> and installed in 2011, with perhaps 4,000
miles on it.
A A A >>>
A A A >>>>> Bummer.AA A Many have discovered to
their
sadness
that
A A A Fluidyne
A A A >>AA radiators
A A A >>AA (at least the first-generation models
for
the Pantera)
cooled
A A A very well
A A A >
A A A
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A A On Mon, Jun 29, 2015 at 1:26 AM, michael barnes
A A <[15][16][34]michaelbarnessrt10 at hotmail.co.uk
<mailto:[35]michaelbarnessrt10 at hotmail.co.uk>> wrote:
A A A I bought a Superior radiator,it was made
upside
down so
obviously
A A A wouldn't fit .After sales was shocking ,
three
months and no
A A A replacement d-!
A A A Sent by Michael Barnes
A A A > On 29 Jun 2015, at 07:05, Ed Mendez
<[16][17][36]edducati at mac.com
<mailto:[37]edducati at mac.com>> wrote:
A A A >
A A A > I have a stock radiator for sale if anyone
interested. It
has a
A A A radiator cap on it which weird but I suppose
you
can weld
that off?
A A A >
A A A > Ed
A A A >
A A A >
A A A >> On Jun 28, 2015, at 21:10, marshallgsmith
A A A <[17][18][38]marshallgsmith at sbcglobal.net
<mailto:[39]marshallgsmith at sbcglobal.net>> wrote:
A A A >>
A A A >>AA Don't discount the original radiator.
It is
very good
and has
A A A cooled my
A A A >>AA car for many years.All that is needed
is
modern day
high volume
A A A fans.
A A A >>
A A A >>AA Marshall
A A A >>
A A A >>AA Sent from my Verizon Wireless 4G LTE
smartphone
A A A >>
A A A >>AA -------- Original message --------
A A A >>AA From: Julian Kift
<[18][19][40]julian_kift at hotmail.com
<mailto:[41]julian_kift at hotmail.com>>
A A A >>AA Date: 06/28/2015 8:52 PM (GMT-08:00)
A A A >>AA To: [19][20][42]mikeldrew at aol.com
<mailto:[43]mikeldrew at aol.com>,
[20][21][44]steve at snclocks.com
<mailto:[45]steve at snclocks.com>,
A A A [21][22][46]detomaso at poca.com
<mailto:[47]detomaso at poca.com>
A A A >>AA Subject: Re: [DeTomaso] Radiators
A A A >>AA For other options in aluminum Ron
Davies
makes a nice
radiator
A A A for the
A A A >>AA Pantera by all accounts and Superior
Radiator sells
their
A A A version on
A A A >>AA eBay with some happy customers.
A A A >>AA Julian
A A A >>AA Date: Sun, 28 Jun 2015 21:10:23 -0400
A A A >>AA To: [22][23][48]steve at snclocks.com
<mailto:[49]steve at snclocks.com>;
[23][24][50]detomaso at poca.com
<mailto:[51]detomaso at poca.com>
A A A >>AA Subject: Re: [DeTomaso] Radiators
A A A >>AA From: [24][25][52]detomaso at poca.com
<mailto:[53]detomaso at poca.com>
A A A >>AA In a message dated 6/28/15 15 34 37,
[25][26][54]steve at snclocks.com
<mailto:[55]steve at snclocks.com>
A A A writes:
A A A >>> Whilst I am enjoying driving 5332, I
noticed
that I have
a seep
A A A from
A A A >>> where one of the radiator tubes enters
the header
tank.AA Looks
A A A like
A A A >>AA it has been
A A A >>> there a while, small seep, but left a
puddle
when I ran
the
A A A engine at
A A A >>AA 1500
A A A >>> rpm for 10 minutes to charge the a/c.AA
It's
a Fluidyne
A A A radiator,
A A A >>AA bought
A A A >>> and installed in 2011, with perhaps 4,000
miles on it.
A A A >>>
A A A >>>>> Bummer.AA A Many have discovered to
their
sadness
that
A A A Fluidyne
A A A >>AA radiators
A A A >>AA (at least the first-generation models
for
the Pantera)
cooled
A A A very well
A A A >
A A A
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9. mailto:michaelbarnessrt10 at hotmail.co.uk
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