[DeTomaso] Radiators
Ed Mendez
edducati at mac.com
Mon Jun 29 02:05:46 EDT 2015
I have a stock radiator for sale if anyone interested. It has a radiator cap on it which weird but I suppose you can weld that off?
Ed
> On Jun 28, 2015, at 21:10, marshallgsmith <marshallgsmith at sbcglobal.net> wrote:
>
> Don't discount the original radiator. It is very good and has cooled my
> car for many years.All that is needed is modern day high volume fans.
>
> Marshall
>
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>
> -------- Original message --------
> From: Julian Kift <julian_kift at hotmail.com>
> Date: 06/28/2015 8:52 PM (GMT-08:00)
> To: mikeldrew at aol.com, steve at snclocks.com, detomaso at poca.com
> Subject: Re: [DeTomaso] Radiators
> For other options in aluminum Ron Davies makes a nice radiator for the
> Pantera by all accounts and Superior Radiator sells their version on
> eBay with some happy customers.
> Julian
> Date: Sun, 28 Jun 2015 21:10:23 -0400
> To: steve at snclocks.com; detomaso at poca.com
> Subject: Re: [DeTomaso] Radiators
> From: detomaso at poca.com
> In a message dated 6/28/15 15 34 37, steve at snclocks.com writes:
>> Whilst I am enjoying driving 5332, I noticed that I have a seep from
>> where one of the radiator tubes enters the header tank. Looks like
> it has been
>> there a while, small seep, but left a puddle when I ran the engine at
> 1500
>> rpm for 10 minutes to charge the a/c. It's a Fluidyne radiator,
> bought
>> and installed in 2011, with perhaps 4,000 miles on it.
>>
>>>> Bummer. Many have discovered to their sadness that Fluidyne
> radiators
> (at least the first-generation models for the Pantera) cooled very well
> but
> had very poor longevity.
>>
>>> Hence the following questions:
>>
>> Is it worth getting the leak tig'd? I have no doubt that a friend
> can
>> weld up the current leak - it looks to be on the front of the tube
> and pretty
>> accessible. But, search "Fluidyne radiator leak" and one gets a lot
> of
>> hits. What is the experience of you guys who have them in your cars?
>>
>>>> I only have second-hand experience with them. Typically when they
> start leaking, it's not due to an insult (i.e. rock hitting a tube),
> but rather
> they leak where the tubes join the end tanks. And if you contact
> Fluidyne
> to ask them WTF, they tell you it's not repairable, but they will
> happily
> sell you a new one at full price.
> Asa Jay had a remarkable experience with them; they actually listened
> to
> his problem, and eventually stood behind their product. But his
> experience
> is the exception rather than the rule.
> On the other hand, if your leak is caused by a hole in a tube and it
> can be
> accessed and fixed, it's certainly worth a try?
>>
>>> I see that FlowKooler has a more conventional radiator (not
> aluminum).
>> Do any of you have experience with their unit? I note they state: "
>> Repeated calls from Pantera car owners complaining about leaking
> aluminum
>> radiators in their Panteras led FlowKooler to work with its sister
> company, The
>> Brassworks, to design not only the primary radiator and fan assembly
> but the
>> auxiliary cooling system for the rear of the car." While their
> radiator
>> costs more, well, perhaps not depending on how lont Fluidyne's last.
>>
>> Any and all comments welcome.
>>
>>>> I've long advocated use of the standard (not 'Phoenix') Hall Pantera
> brass radiator. They cost about the same as the Fluidyne units, cool
> just as
> well, and are infinitely repairable by a local radiator shop in the
> event of
> a problem. My car runs down the road right at 180 degrees, and idling
> in
> traffic forever, it will get up to about 195 with both fans running.
> Lori
> has the same radiator/fans in her car with exactly the same results.
> If you have to buy one, I can't recommend that one highly enough. But
> if
> you can get away with repairing yours, I'd try that first.
> Good luck!
> Mike
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> For other options in aluminum Ron Davies makes a nice radiator for
> the
> Pantera by all accounts and Superior Radiator sells their version on
> eBay with some happy customers.
> Julian
> Date: Sun, 28 Jun 2015 21:10:23 -0400
> To: steve at snclocks.com; detomaso at poca.com
> Subject: Re: [DeTomaso] Radiators
> From: detomaso at poca.com
> In a message dated 6/28/15 15 34 37, steve at snclocks.com writes:
>> Whilst I am enjoying driving 5332, I noticed that I have a seep from
>> where one of the radiator tubes enters the header tank. Looks like
> it has bee
> n
>> there a while, small seep, but left a puddle when I ran the engine at
> 1500
>> rpm for 10 minutes to charge the a/c. It's a Fluidyne radiator,
> bought
>> and installed in 2011, with perhaps 4,000 miles on it.
>>
>>>> Bummer. Many have discovered to their sadness that Fluidyne
> radiators
> (at least the first-generation models for the Pantera) cooled very well
> but
> had very poor longevity.
>>
>>> Hence the following questions:
>>
>> Is it worth getting the leak tig'd? I have no doubt that a friend
> can
>> weld up the current leak - it looks to be on the front of the tube
> and pretty
>> accessible. But, search "Fluidyne radiator leak" and one gets a lot
> of
>> hits. What is the experience of you guys who have them in your cars?
>>
>>>> I only have second-hand experience with them. Typically when they
> start leaking, it's not due to an insult (i.e. rock hitting a tube),
> but rather
> they leak where the tubes join the end tanks. And if you contact
> Fluidyne
> to ask them WTF, they tell you it's not repairable, but they will
> happily
> sell you a new one at full price.
> Asa Jay had a remarkable experience with them; they actually listened
> to
> his problem, and eventually stood behind their product. But his
> experience
> is the exception rather than the rule.
> On the other hand, if your leak is caused by a hole in a tube and it
> can be
> accessed and fixed, it's certainly worth a try?
>>
>>> I see that FlowKooler has a more conventional radiator (not
> aluminum).
>> Do any of you have experience with their unit? I note they state: "
>> Repeated calls from Pantera car owners complaining about leaking
> aluminum
>> radiators in their Panteras led FlowKooler to work with its sister
> company, Th
> e
>> Brassworks, to design not only the primary radiator and fan assembly
> but the
>> auxiliary cooling system for the rear of the car." While their
> radiator
>> costs more, well, perhaps not depending on how lont Fluidyne's last.
>>
>> Any and all comments welcome.
>>
>>>> I've long advocated use of the standard (not 'Phoenix') Hall Pantera
> brass radiator. They cost about the same as the Fluidyne units, cool
> just as
> well, and are infinitely repairable by a local radiator shop in the
> event of
> a problem. My car runs down the road right at 180 degrees, and idling
> in
> traffic forever, it will get up to about 195 with both fans running.
> Lori
> has the same radiator/fans in her car with exactly the same results.
> If you have to buy one, I can't recommend that one highly enough. But
> if
> you can get away with repairing yours, I'd try that first.
> Good luck!
> Mike
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